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The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009 at 1:18 PM
AJC  (Login ajc122)

on Healthcare reform. And the legislation is a long way from being finished even in the House. And then the Senate does their version. Then they try to combine the two versions.

I don't see it getting done this year particulary since there is such a disagreement on the figures involved.

It is interesting to note though that the US is the only developed country that doesn't have a comprehensive health plan in place.

The United States is the only developed nation that does not have a comprehensive national health care plan for all its citizens, and Obama campaigned on a promise to offer affordable health care to all Americans.
However, the recession and a deepening budget deficit have made it difficult to win support for costly new programs. Obama says that overhauling health care is vital to the United States' long-term economic recovery.
"I want to be very clear: I will not sign on to any health plan that adds to our deficits over the next decade," the president said in his weekly radio and Internet address. "And by helping improve quality and efficiency, the reforms we make will help bring our deficits under control in the long-term," he added.
The president's remarks were released late Friday, a few hours before an update by the Congressional Budget Office said the overall cost of the House bill would "result in a net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion over the 2010-2019 period." The estimate included the cost of higher Medicare fees for doctors, an important ingredient of the measure for the American Medical Association. Medicare is the government-sponsored health insurance for the elderly, and the AMA, which represents physicians, endorsed the bill late last week.
The CBO analysis said the bill would result in a reduction in the deficit from 2010-2014, before it began to add red ink in gradually increasing amounts for the next five years.
Administration officials could not be reached for comment immediately.
About 50 million of America's 300 million people are without health insurance. The government provides coverage for the poor and elderly, but most Americans rely on private insurance, usually received through their employers. However, not all employers provide insurance and not everyone can afford to buy it on their own. With unemployment rising, many Americans are losing their health insurance when they lose their jobs.

 
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gus.
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Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 1:26 PM 

   The United States is the only developed country in the world with a lot of great stuff across a broad spectrum.  There's a good reason for that.  It's government neither built it, nor runs it.

gus.

 

 

 


 
 

moon
(Login mooncat60)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 4:07 PM 

The United States is   NOT  the only developed country in the world with a lot of great stuff across a broad spectrum.  If you have traveled considerably, lived in other developed countries or spent a lot of time overseas, you would know that.  

 
 

gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 4:25 PM 

The United States is   NOT  the only developed country in the world with a lot of great stuff across a broad spectrum.  If you have traveled considerably, lived in other developed countries or spent a lot of time overseas, you would know that.  

   Sometimes, punctuation just fails at the task I suppose.

gus.


 
 

moon
(Login mooncat60)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 4:35 PM 

Oh, so you didn't really say "The United States is the only developed country in the world with a lot of great stuff across a broad spectrum." ?

 
 

gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 5:34 PM 

Oh, so you didn't really say "The United States is the only developed country in the world with a lot of great stuff across a broad spectrum." ?

   What I really meant was, that the US has a lot of great stuff that no other developed country has.  Not that the US is the only developed country with any great stuff.

gus.

 


 
 

moon
(Login mooncat60)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 6:06 PM 

Okay, I just wanted to know what you were trying to say.  Thanks for the clarification.

 
 

Moniker
(Login moniker12)

Stop the Madness

July 20 2009, 7:31 PM 

"...The United States is the only developed nation that does not have a comprehensive national health care plan for all its citizens..."

Hmmm. I'm trying to think if anyone I know has fled to Canada to get health care?

Nope.

Sweden?

Well, they might have better rates for transgender surgery.

England? Nope.

France? Nope.

Portugal? Portugal! That's where I want to have my liver replaced. And dine on it after the surgery. Some truffles, a little bacon, sliced onions, my liver...

It's a new travel package offered by Carnival Cruise Lines: Multi-City Transplant and Dining Excursion to Europe.

Seriously. Why the great big massive too-big-to-manage Grand Poohba Scheme to Revolutionize Health Care in the United States?

How about a narrow program aimed at the people who can't afford health insurance?

What? We already have that?

Then what's the big uproar?

Stop the Madness! 



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AJC
(Login ajc122)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 9:24 PM 

I have read about people going to India to have surgery. I think it was because the cost was much less for certain procedures.

 
 
AJC
(Login ajc122)

Re: The numbers keep changing

July 20 2009, 9:30 PM 

maybe those without coverage could afford a trip to Canada but not likely to the other places mentioned.

 
 
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