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Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009 at 11:52 AM

  (Login roby2000)

Hi,

My inbox has been flooded with emails spreading crazy rumors about health reform so I wanted to share some facts from AARP about what's really going on. Please join me in forwarding these facts to everyone you know. Print them out and pass them around at your social gatherings and other places where people are discussing the issues of the day.

FACT #1: Medicare will not be ended, and no benefits or services will be cut.

Your services will not be ended, nor will your benefits be cut. AARP's position on this could not be clearer. And we have sent this message loud and clear to Congress. While the current proposals include savings in Medicare by cutting out fraud, abuse, waste, and inefficiency, we're standing up and making sure benefits for Medicare recipients are not only fully protected, but are improved.1

FACT #2: No legislation currently in Congress would mandate the rationing of care. Period.

Our staff has read all of the legislation circulating in Congress and there are no provisions in these bills that would ration care for our members. None. If any ever did, we would vigorously fight to stop that legislation.2

FACT #3: There is no provision of any piece of legislation that would promote euthanasia of any kind.

The rumors out there are flat out lies. Right now Medicare does not cover counseling for end-of-life care. The portion of the bill in question would simply provide coverage for optional end-of-life consultations with doctors, so that the patient can be aware of all of the treatment options on the table. It is not mandatory and it has nothing to do with euthanasia.3

FACT #4: We have not endorsed President Obama's plan.

In fact, we haven't endorsed any plan. We are supporting reform of our health care system, something that AARP has pushed for many years. We're working closely with Republican and Democratic members of Congress to lower health care costs and to ensure quality affordable coverage for older Americans and we want reform legislation passed and signed by the president this year.4

So what is AARP fighting for in health reform?

  1. Stopping insurance companies from charging older Americans unaffordable premiums because of their age.
  2. Ending the practice of excluding people from insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
  3. Holding down health costs and making insurance coverage more affordable for all Americans.
  4. Making prescription drugs more affordable by narrowing the Medicare doughnut hole, bringing generics to market faster, and allowing Medicare to negotiate better drug prices.

Find out more and take action at http://aarp.convio.net/site/R?i=KL8VIzUdBjNsVnmMhaRecQ..">HealthActionNow.org.

Thanks,



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AJC
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Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 11:55 AM 

The wingnuts would rather believe the crap they post rather than trying to find out what is actually in the bill.

If it reinforces their belief the bill is bad they are going to accept it.

 
 


(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 12:01 PM 

You're right ajc, they always need the last word and they're always wrong about it.  Sigh!  Gotta go now, got lots of stuff to do.  Have a nice morning, oops, afternoon.  *chortle*

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Carolyn
(Login Carolyn826)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 12:28 PM 

FACT #4: We have not endorsed President Obama's plan.

 

Thanks for the fact.

 




 
 


(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 3:33 PM 

They only said they have no plan to endorse yet.  What the fuck does that do to make you so happy? 



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Carolyn
(Login Carolyn826)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 3:48 PM 

What in the plan makes you happy?




 
 
AJC
(Login ajc122)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 5:31 PM 

I don't know if this qualifies as happy but just the fact that the special interest groups are all up in arms and putting out so much distorted crap about the bills indicates to me that reform is needed. They generally don't fight this hard unless their oxen is getting goared.

 
 

roby2000
(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 5:50 PM 

What in the plan makes you happy?

 

Just that it cleared up the "end of the world" scenario that you people started.  I never said I was ecstatic, I just don't think as big a disaster as you would have me believe. 



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cjgrill
(Login cjgrill)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 6:23 PM 

Thanks for ALL of the facts! I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who hates hearing the same old lies day after day.

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Carolyn
(Login Carolyn826)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 8:55 PM 


 
 

Moniker
(Login moniker12)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 9:29 PM 

"...I don't know if this qualifies as happy but just the fact that the special interest groups are all up in arms and putting out so much distorted crap about the bills indicates to me that reform is needed. They generally don't fight this hard unless their oxen is getting goared..."

What special interest groups are those? The Democratic National Party? ACORN? AARP? The puplic employee unions - state and federal?

Or do you mean the special interst groups who actually work in the medical insurance business, invest money in it, manage its risks, try to provide good outcomes for its customers?



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AJC
(Login ajc122)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 11:04 PM 

You mean the ones that have expressed support for the reform - AMA for instance.

 
 

roby2000
(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 11:54 PM 

Roby and cjgrill: do you guys read any of what the government is proposing?

No, we leave all the misinterpretation to you fucking morons.



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Carolyn
(Login Carolyn826)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 6 2009, 11:59 PM 

You could join in and share your understanding of the reform, Roby.  But you might have to expand your vocabulary beyond 4-letter words.

 




 
 


(Premier Login susanklmr)
Admins

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 1:10 AM 

Roby and cjgrill: do you guys read any of what the government is proposing?

No, we leave all the misinterpretation to you fucking morons.


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(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 11:13 AM 

 But you might have to expand your vocabulary beyond 4-letter words.

Oh, fuck you.



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gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 11:47 AM 

But you might have to expand your vocabulary beyond 4-letter words.

Oh, fuck you.

LOL!  Apparently not...

gus.

 


 
 

Moniker
(Login moniker12)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 4:26 PM 

Roby! Why so grumpy?

It's Friday afternoon. Chill, baby.

I recommend a good old-fashioned gin martini with a couple of fat California olives, on the rocks, to kick off your weekend.



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roby2000
(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 5:41 PM 

LOL!  Apparently not..

Sure, whatever you say gus, whatever you say.  *chortle*



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(Login roby2000)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 5:44 PM 

Roby! Why so grumpy?

I'm not grumpy, I just don't like it when an imbecile like carolyn tells me to expand my volcabulary.  And the word fuck makes her wince. LOL!



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Moniker
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Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 5:52 PM 

The first time my mother ever heard the word 'fuck' was when I was seventeen and she wouldn't sign a paper that would allow me to buy a motorcylcle and probably kill myself.

She must have been forty-four or fourty-five at the time.

You would be surprised by how many people in America really don't employ profanity in their lives.

But not me.

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(Login Ablevins)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 5:58 PM 

Every first wold nation with national healthcare rations the care avaible to its citizens ...

the only one that does not is

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AJC
(Login ajc122)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 6:26 PM 

Don't insurance companies ration care?

 
 

Moniker
(Login moniker12)

Re: Just the facts from AARP re: Healthcare

August 7 2009, 7:31 PM 

"...Don't insurance companies ration care...?"

I would say they do to an extent. Liver scans only every six months if you are on Lipitor. A colonoscopy only every five years if you're over 50. A finger up your butt exploring for prostrate cancer only every year if you're over 50.

You know, all the things the government wants to provide you, with at least 100 new bureaucracies to oversee it all.

What the hell. One finger is just like another. And I hear the government will be expediting the production of more female proctologists.

Whoopee.



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