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Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009 at 8:40 PM
fisconsoclib  (Login fisconsoclib)

The Same State that can dictate that you can not have an abortion could decades later dictate that you must have an abortion.

 
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 9:06 PM 

Exactly the reason that we should remind our leaders and representatives that we get our rights from God. That way only God can take them away from us and the leaders will not become dictators.

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Since opinions are meaningless, why should anyone have one?

But have you ever seen a liberal who doesn't have an opinion? And since he has an opinion, yours must be wrong.

 
 
sandeelady
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 9:46 PM 

Scary meet scarier

 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 9:59 PM 

Exactly the reason that we should remind our leaders and representatives that we get our rights from God. That way only God can take them away from us and the leaders will not become dictators.

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You might think you get your "rights" from God... but, I don't.  Why would you say such an idiotic thing?

Jim..


 
 

Mari
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 10:03 PM 

Why would you say such an idiotic thing?

 

Ah, Jim....was that an idiotic question?



America, we are better than these last eight years. We are a better country than this.

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(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 10:08 PM 

Ah, Jim....was that an idiotic question?

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could be..  and I love your "flying pigs" avatar... that is the best ever.

If anybody gets their "RIGHTS" from God, then they must have the absolute right to impose that "right" on me..  And send me to the gallows if I don't support it.

God, these shallow, and brutal, theocratists scare me.

Jim..


 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 10:15 PM 


Recognize the following: If you don't, I'll be happy to refresh your memory.



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that G

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Since opinions are meaningless, why should anyone have one?

But have you ever seen a liberal who doesn't have an opinion? And since he has an opinion, yours must be wrong.

 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 10:19 PM 

Recognize the following: If you don't, I'll be happy to refresh your memory.



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that G

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And, your point?

Jim...


 
 

roby2000
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 10:33 PM 

 that we get our rights from God.

What a crock of fucking shit.  I get my rights from "me".



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Maw
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:18 PM 

I'm with Roby on this one...

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all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.



 
 

gus.
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:22 PM 

I'm with Roby on this one...

   Of course.  Neither one of you has ever read the Constitution, which is just as well, I'm thinking...

gus.

 


 
 

Maw
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:33 PM 

Yes Gus I have read the constitution. what are you questioning.

And why?

Bush said it was just a God damn piece of paper...



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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.



 
 

gus.
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:39 PM 

Yes Gus I have read the constitution. what are you questioning.

And why?

    You said "I'm with Roby on this one".  And roby said:

     What a crock of fucking shit.  I get my rights from "me".

     That's *not* what the Constitution says, Maw.

 

Bush said it was just a God damn piece of paper...

   So what's your point?  You and roby agree with Bush?

gus.

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
fisconsoclib
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:46 PM 

Yes, our rights do come from God, but not the God of Abraham, but the God of Nature as the Declaration of Independence dictates. Remember from this God comes the law of the Balance of nature. If we are to follow this law then voluntary abortion on demand is a necessary tool to control our population growth.

Oh on Gus, yes we have read the Constitution, that is how we know that the paragraph that poetse gave us is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. Perhaps you should refresh your memory about that important part of history.

 
 

Maw
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:48 PM 

Score fiscon!!

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all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.



 
 

gus.
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 14 2009, 11:53 PM 

Yes, our rights do come from God, but not the God of Abraham, but the God of Nature as the Declaration of Independence dictates. Remember from this God comes the law of the Balance of nature. If we are to follow this law then voluntary abortion on demand is a necessary tool to control our population growth.

   Who appointed you to define who, or what "our creator" is? 

Oh on Gus, yes we have read the Constitution, that is how we know that the paragraph that poetse gave us is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. Perhaps you should refresh your memory about that important part of history.

   Did I reference Poetse's post, or it's content?  Isn't that a little presumptuous on your part?  Is there no mention of "rights" in the Constitution?

gus.

 


 
 

gus.
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 12:01 AM 

Score fiscon!!

   You're just a follower, Maw.  All you do is follow.  They're called "groupies" in some circles.

gus.

 


 
 

maw
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 12:07 AM 

And you're just an asshole gus.

They call them republicans in some groups. asshole 





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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.



 
 

gus.
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 12:26 AM 

And you're just an asshole gus.

   But I'm not a follower asshole, with never an original thought.

gus.

 


 
 
fisconsoclib
(Login fisconsoclib)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 12:39 AM 

Fortunetly I did not have to, Jefferson did it for me.
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

The reference to the Laws of Nature and Natures God says it all.



 
 
AJC
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 12:45 AM 

So Gus are disagreeing with Poet about where our rights come from?

 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 12:49 AM 

Neither one of you has ever read the Constitution,

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Have you?

Jim...


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 1:01 AM 

In case you haven't read it lately... here it is.

http://library.law.emory.edu/index.php?id=3080

Jim...


 
 

Moniker
(Login moniker12)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 1:30 AM 

You might think you get your "rights" from God... but, I don't.  Why would you say such an idiotic thing?

Hmmmm. I dunno. Maybe he was referring to umpteen thousand years of Judeo-Christian tradition and religion?

Ya think?

Our Founders were Christians and they built our Constitution and early case law on the principles of Christianity and Jewish law in the Old Testament.

 



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(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 1:45 AM 

Our Founders were Christians and they built our Constitution and early case law on the principles of Christianity and Jewish law in the Old Testament.

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you are wrong.  And, I suspect you know that you are wrong.  But, of course, you won't give up the mantra.

Jim...


 
 

Moniker
(Login moniker12)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 1:53 AM 

Do you believe the signers of the Declaration were Founding Fathers?

I do.

Facts seem to support me:

Religious Affiliation # of
signers
% of
signers
Episcopalian/Anglican 32 57.1%
Congregationalist 13 23.2%
Presbyterian 12 21.4%
Quaker 2 3.6%
Unitarian or Universalist 2 3.6%
Catholic 1 1.8%
TOTAL 56 100%

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-- Magna Carta


    
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(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 2:07 AM 

They may have belonged to a church, but, by-and-large, they were Deists..  and that is well supported in history.  I don't know why you conservative idiots keep trying to assert something that isn't true.  Probably to bolster your own waffling faith.  I'm not sure.

Why is it important to you anyway?

In terms of the U.S. being a "Christian" nation, it has been largely dominated by the Christian religion for its entire history.  Why would you feel threatened?

Jim...


 
 

roby2000
(Login roby2000)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 10:02 AM 

Of course.  Neither one of you has ever read the Constitution, which is just as well, I'm thinking...

gus.

Whatever you say, gus, if it makes you feel good, whatever you say. *chortle*



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gus.
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 10:52 AM 

The reference to the Laws of Nature and Natures God says it all.

   No it doesn't.  There are pages and pages of letters, recorded discussion, and quotes on the subject from the founders themselves.  Your presumptiveness grows to absurd proportions.  Get over yourself.

gus.

 

 

 



    
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maw
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 4:15 PM 

Get over yourself.

gus.

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LOL Gus. I'd hate to have your nerve in a tooth.



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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.



 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 8:38 PM 

Herel, Maw. Check it out at Fact Check and quit spreading lies.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_president_bush_call_the_constitution_a.html

 
 

Carolyn
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 9:01 PM 

Capitol Hill Blue?  That's one of Bul's favorites.  He probably posted it over at MyWay, Maw read it there, and ran with it.

LOL!

 




 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 9:02 PM 

They may have belonged to a church, but, by-and-large, they were Deists.. and that is well supported in history. I don't know why you conservative idiots keep trying to assert something that isn't true. Probably to bolster your own waffling faith. I'm not sure.

Is that the same history that the revisionists have written. Or is it the one in which real scholarship was done? And how do you know the difference? You certainly disregarded the Declaration of Independence? Did you not know anything about that?

I really think you are an over-educated pseudo i=ntellectul who has a lot of information and have no idea how to assimulate it.

 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 9:05 PM 

Capitol Hill Blue?  That's one of Bul's favorites.  He probably posted it over at MyWay, Maw read it there, and ran with it.

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Are you suggesting that the United States of America is, in fact, a Christian Nation?  I'm not sure of your position on this subject.

"Yes" or "No" will work.

Jim...


 
 

Moniker
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 9:27 PM 

Are you suggesting that the United States of America is, in fact, a Christian Nation? 

Suggesting? LOL! Typical arrogance from our Avalon of the North. I can picture you standing in front of your computer monitor in a full blown display of indignance. Arms akimbo and feet spread.

You've got to switch that paradigm around in your head, Jim. It's a good practice to review facts for a few minutes each day.

We're also one of the most tolerating and inclusive societies on earth thanks to our constitutional law and the embracing culture of most Christian faiths in America.

Want some examples? Hmmmm. How far back do you want to go? Nevermind.

Let's zoom back to 1970s Hawaii and the Hawaiian Lutheran rescue of Cambodians; their integration into society and business; and the total independence of their own faiths. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of American Christian churches doing God's work over the ensuing 30 years and you just might get to see a glimmer of the true nature of America. A Christian nation that was founded by Christian pioneers and Christian statesmen. There's nothing to be ashamed about. What's the problem?

This status may ebb away eventually as socio-political forces rise and fall. At that time, hopefully, the structure of the Constitution will yet remain in tact.



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To no one will we sell, to no one will we refuse or delay, right or justice.
-- Magna Carta

 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 9:36 PM 

Capitol Hill Blue? That's one of Bul's favorites. He probably posted it over at MyWay, Maw read it there, and ran with it.

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Are you suggesting that the United States of America is, in fact, a Christian Nation? I'm not sure of your position on this subject.

"Yes" or "No" will work.

Jim...

Tell me, Jim, What does Carolyn's post hacve to do with Ameiica being a Christian Nation. She is refering to the lie that Capital Hill Blue told about President Bush.

Obviously you never have a clue about what you post.




 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 9:49 PM 

Suggesting? LOL! Typical arrogance from our Avalon of the North. I can picture you standing in front of your computer monitor in a full blown display of indignance. Arms akimbo and feet spread.

You've got to switch that paradigm around in your head, Jim. It's a good practice to review facts for a few minutes each day.

We're also one of the most tolerating and inclusive societies on earth thanks to our constitutional law and the embracing culture of most Christian faiths in America.

Want some examples? Hmmmm. How far back do you want to go? Nevermind.

Let's zoom back to 1970s Hawaii and the Hawaiian Lutheran rescue of Cambodians; their integration into society and business; and the total independence of their own faiths. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of American Christian churches doing God's work over the ensuing 30 years and you just might get to see a glimmer of the true nature of America. A Christian nation that was founded by Christian pioneers and Christian statesmen. There's nothing to be ashamed about. What's the problem?

This status may ebb away eventually as socio-political forces rise and fall. At that time, hopefully, the structure of the Constitution will yet remain in tact.

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Nice rant.  You didn't answer the question.

Jim...


 
 
Janie
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 10:30 PM 

Exactly the reason that we should remind our leaders and representatives that we get our rights from God.

Please prove unequivocally that there is ANY kind of "god" that wasn't invented by mankind due to his abject FEAR of death.





 
 
Janie
(Login pphhrogg)

WOW!

August 15 2009, 10:32 PM 

Capitol Hill Blue?  That's one of Bul's favorites. 

Bulphrog doesn't even post here anymore, carolyn.......OBSESSED much with him are you?





 
 

maw
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Re: Scary thought of the day.

August 15 2009, 10:34 PM 

I believe Bush did say it. He is that arrogant. And no Carolyn I did not read what Bul said on myway. So I couldn't have ran with it.  A lie of yours I suppose?

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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.



 
 
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