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It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009 at 9:21 PM

Moniker  (Login moniker12)

Unless you buy into the Demcratic National Party agenda and hysterics.

 



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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 9:25 PM 

Unless you buy into the Demcratic National Party agenda and hysterics.

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I assume you are talking about "healthcare"..  And, of course it is broken.  Why would you think otherwise?

Jim...


 
 

Carolyn
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 9:38 PM 

It's the same old supply and demand issue.  Aging baby boomers, and poor American fitness are driving demand, and a pill and a procedure to fix them both are driving up the demand and cost.  Younger people, and unemployed, are not creating the supply (of funds).  I am in total agreement that we need competitive plans that all must participate in.  It's just like a checking account.  You can't keep making withdrawals if no deposits are being made.

 




 
 

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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 9:45 PM 

It's the same old supply and demand issue.  Aging baby boomers, and poor American fitness are driving demand, and a pill and a procedure to fix them both are driving up the demand and cost.  Younger people, and unemployed, are not creating the supply (of funds).  I am in total agreement that we need competitive plans that all must participate in.  It's just like a checking account.  You can't keep making withdrawals if no deposits are being made.

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No, it is NOT really an "old supply and demand" issue.  Healthcare is not the same as buying vegetables.  We have created a model where you discourage people from engaging in preventative care, and accessing the health system only when it becomes a crisis.  And, if you don't have insurance, you put off the "nagging cough" (for instance) until you are spitting up blood.  And then you go to the ER. 

What could have been a $800 fee and consult, now becomes a $250,000 full workup and "charity" admission.

Jim..


 
 

Carolyn
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 9:50 PM 

Not true.  In my 55 years on earth, I never known anyone (self included) without health insurance.  They still put off going to the doctor, didn't eat as healthy as they should, and didn't exercise as regularly as recommended.  But they also don't go to emergency rooms. 

 




 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:08 PM 

Not true.  In my 55 years on earth, I never known anyone (self included) without health insurance.  They still put off going to the doctor, didn't eat as healthy as they should, and didn't exercise as regularly as recommended.  But they also don't go to emergency rooms. 

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I am not talking about people you know; I am talking about people you undoubtedly don't know. 

Jim...


 
 

Moniker
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:17 PM 

"...I am not talking about people you know; I am talking about people you undoubtedly don't know..."

Now who's being a dick? I would venture this strange concept, Jim: Carolyn just might... just might... have as much real world experience as you do. Real world experience in race, employment, medical care, extended families, boomer caretakers of the Greatest Generation, and medical insurance.

Apparently, you know all the people that make up this debate... all the demographic groups... and that's a remarkable achievement that I would congratulate you for if it was even close to the truth. 



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Carolyn
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:18 PM 

Do you really believe insured people aren't just as responsible for rising health care costs?  Medical advances and new technology aren't made available because people have no insurance.

 




 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:21 PM 

Do you really believe insured people aren't just as responsible for rising health care costs?  Medical advances and new technology aren't made available because people have no insurance.

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I am also for some form of Tort Reform (as it applies to medical malpractice) as part of the larger package.  My wife pays over $3000 a year for malpractice insurance, and she is "only" an ANP.

Jim...


 
 

Moniker
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:24 PM 

"...I am also for some form of Tort Reform

That's great! You'll find a lot of support on that issue from conservatives.



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gus.
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:27 PM 

No, it is NOT really an "old supply and demand" issue.  Healthcare is not the same as buying vegetables. 

    It is *exactly* the same as buying vegetables.  Why shouldn't it be?  It isn't a matter of lifestyle, it's a matter of what is covered, and at what cost.  And all of it is negotiable.  Wal-Mart sells a prescription generic drug from a sizeable list for $4 a month.  How can they do this when "evil drug companies control the market"?  Remove the auto-feed trough of Medicare, and the medical industry is forced to *compete* for what they sell.  Nobody can become the Wal-Mart of health-care as long as the huge percentage of the actual market in care is over 65 people on Medicare.  They are then forced to compete with the government, which is *exactly* what will happen to the entire giant system if Obamacare is passed.

gus.

 

  



    
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Moniker
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:34 PM 

Health care isn't the same as buying vegetables. Vegetables are a commodity.

If you want medical care and insurance to be defined as a commodity, good luck to you.



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gus.
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:43 PM 

Health care isn't the same as buying vegetables. Vegetables are a commodity.

If you want medical care and insurance to be defined as a commodity, good luck to you.

   Why isn't it a commodity?  Look at dental care.  It isn't life-threatening, but it is a medical proceedure, and 80% of health care isn't life-threatening either.  The dental industry isn't swamped by Medicare, because only a fraction of Medicare subscribers choose to pay for the extension.  Therefore, there is *competition* in the dental industry.  Discount dental proceedures are a thriving industy in this part of the world.  And they are bound by the same licensing standards as the best dental surgeons in the state.

gus.

 


 
 

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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:48 PM 

Why isn't it a commodity?  Look at dental care.  It isn't life-threatening, but it is a medical proceedure, and 80% of health care isn't life-threatening either.  The dental industry isn't swamped by Medicare, because only a fraction of Medicare subscribers choose to pay for the extension.  Therefore, there is *competition* in the dental industry.  Discount dental proceedures are a thriving industy in this part of the world.  And they are bound by the same licensing standards as the best dental surgeons in the state.

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Do you know what you are talking about?  Dental care is equivalent to medical care exactly how?  Missing a breast cancer screening because you can't afford it similar to getting a cavity in your molar? 

Jim..


 
 

gus.
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 10:56 PM 

Do you know what you are talking about?  Dental care is equivalent to medical care exactly how?  Missing a breast cancer screening because you can't afford it similar to getting a cavity in your molar? 

   Let's be a little more realistic on your side, shall we?  As in the thousands of doctor visits for an undefined pain, or twinge, that result in a sugar-pill?  Or the thousands of cuts, dings, and dents that are treated with Wal-Mart ointments and bandages?  You side just loves to monopolize the drama for your sales pitch.  Take away the over 65s already covered by Medicare, and the ERs already covered by law, and your drama is reduced to a small fraction.  Spare me...

gus.

 

 

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 11:43 PM 

Let's be a little more realistic on your side, shall we?  As in the thousands of doctor visits for an undefined pain, or twinge, that result in a sugar-pill?  Or the thousands of cuts, dings, and dents that are treated with Wal-Mart ointments and bandages?  You side just loves to monopolize the drama for your sales pitch.  Take away the over 65s already covered by Medicare, and the ERs already covered by law, and your drama is reduced to a small fraction.  Spare me...

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Through both personal experience and professional experience, I know a whole lot more than you do.  Please feel free to keep fooling yourself anyway you want to however.

[by your post, I assume you mean that most medical issues that bankrupt people are things that could be treated by ointments and bandages?]

Jim..


 
 
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 19 2009, 11:58 PM 

Do you know what you are talking about?  Dental care is equivalent to medical care exactly how?  Missing a breast cancer screening because you can't afford it similar to getting a cavity in your molar? 

 

Don't take dental care lightly, it could be life threatening

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080530074318.htm


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 12:01 AM 

Don't take dental care lightly, it could be life threatening

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That's what I love about you conservatives.  You are plumb stupid.

Jim..


 
 

gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 12:02 AM 

Through both personal experience and professional experience, I know a whole lot more than you do.  Please feel free to keep fooling yourself anyway you want to however.

   You say that about every topic ever presented on the board, emperor.(see: "The boy who cried wolf")

 

[by your post, I assume you mean that most medical issues that bankrupt people are things that could be treated by ointments and bandages?]

   We weren't discussing bankruptcy, don't change the subject.

gus.

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 12:08 AM 

We weren't discussing bankruptcy, don't change the subject.

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Don't tell me what I was talking about asshole.  I'm not changing the subject, I'm trying to keep you on it.

Jim..


 
 

gus.
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 12:10 AM 

We weren't discussing bankruptcy, don't change the subject.

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Don't tell me what I was talking about asshole.  I'm not changing the subject, I'm trying to keep you on it.

  Read--the--thread.  We weren't discussing bankruptcy, don't change the subject.

gus.

 

 


 
 


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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 12:16 AM 

And, if you don't have insurance, you put off the "nagging cough" (for instance) until you are spitting up blood.  And then you go to the ER. 

This is all such a bunch of BULL.

During our 30+ years of marriage, we have always been covered, either through my husband or through me...of course we consider that little subject when we take a job.  For the last 20 years we were covered through my husband's job, which was union, and not only were we COVERED, we never paid a dime for it.  Not the premiums...prescriptions, office visits...nothing.

((segway))

Given the fact we had access at no cost to us, to any and every test, hospital or doctor, that still did not change the fact my husband almost died in 2007 because he didn't know he should be going to a neurosurgeon instead of an orthopedic doctor.  In today's medicine you pretty much have to know what is wrong with you, so you can go to the right specialist.  He went to the ER, where they ran every test at once and found out he needed an aortal-iliac bypass. 

It had nothing to do with "putting it off"...and everything to do with a crappy doctor who couldn't admit he didn't know what was wrong. 

Jim, apparently you don't know the right people either.  We could all live on anecdotal evidence....that is all it is.




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(Login Avalon99)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 12:49 AM 

Jim, apparently you don't know the right people either.  We could all live on anecdotal evidence....that is all it is.

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That is pure bullshit.  My wife has worked with the mentally ill and the homeless and Veterans for 40 years, and at my work I've worked with third worlders and the down and out for the past 30 years. 

I may not know the "right" people..  but, I know a lot of "people"  ... many of which you would turn your nose up at.

I'm sure you drive them out of Oklahoma, they come to WA, OR, and AK ... you appear to also be diminutive in your soul.

Jim...


 
 


(Login indisgeyes)

Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 11:08 AM 

I'm sure you drive them out of Oklahoma, they come to WA, OR, and AK ... 

Jim, you must know nothing about the state of Ok or you would not/could not in good conscience make such a statement.   I have a daughter that lives there and I know the people, they are as diverse as any that you will find in any other state. 


 
 
beastmom
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 4:41 PM 

For those who claim they don't know anyone without health insurance it appears there is a very small circle surrounding them. Could be they are just not in a line of work where they see the many many people without. Could be they just choose not to see it. I have been in the line of work for years and still am and I can tell you the need for health care is enormous.

 
 
Janie
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Re: It's.... Not... Broken...!

August 20 2009, 4:49 PM 

In my 55 years on earth, I never known anyone (self included) without health insurance. 

Then you have led a VERY sheltered life.  I worked as an R.N. in 5 different states (in MO, CA, OR, FL, and LA) and I met people in each of those states who couldn't afford health insurance. 

It's quite sad when someone has a heart attack and then lies awake in CCU worrying about how he's going to pay his bill.  I always told patients like that to get some sleep and let the hospital worry about their bill....but I think we ALL know that many Americans have to file bankruptcy every year due to enormous medical bills.  That is the #1 reason people file for bankruptcy in America.


Then moroniker chimes in with he special brand of stupidity...."Carolyn just might... just might... have as much real world experience as you do."

Not a tinker's chance in hell.



    
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Janie
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Not necessary....

August 20 2009, 5:10 PM 

I am also for some form of Tort Reform (as it applies to medical malpractice) as part of the larger package.  My wife pays over $3000 a year for malpractice insurance, and she is "only" an ANP.

That's not necessary since the nonsense that the Republicans always try to sell about malpractice suits just isn't true.  Also, there are MANY insurance companies available to sell your wife malpractice insurance....so if she is only insuring herself, it shouldn't be that expensive.  Here's an article about malpractice lawsuits and liability insuarnce costs.....

 

Fib: High medical malpractice awards are driving up the cost of medical malpractice insurance:

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FACT: Consumer groups, a bi-partisan legislative committee, and even the insurance industry say insurers' bad business practices, not jury awards, drive up premiums.

 

"[M]edical malpractice premiums charged by insurance companies do not correspond to increases or decreases in payouts, which have been steady for 30 years. Rather, premiums rise and fall in concert with the state of the economy." Medical Malpractice Insurance: Stable Losses/Unstable Rates, Americans for Insurance Reform, under the direction of J. Robert Hunter (Director of Insurance for the Consumer Federation of America, former Federal Insurance Administrator and Texas Insurance Commissioner) October 10, 2002.

 

"[The] insurance industry has played a role in the continuing limitations on accessible and affordable insurance coverage for the health care providers . . . " Final Report of the Insurance Availability and Medical Malpractice Industry Committee, a bipartisan committee of the West Virginia Legislature, issued <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />January 7, 2003.

 

"I don't like to hear insurance-company executives say it's the tort system - it's self inflicted.'" - Donald J. Zuk, Chief Executive of Scopie Holdings Inc., a leading malpractice insurer in California, Wall Street Journal, June 24, 2002.

 

Fib: Caps on non-economic damages will bring down doctors' malpractice insurance premiums:

 

FACT: Experience in states with caps has shownand insurers and tort "reformers" admitthat caps and tort "reform" won't lower doctors' premiums.

 

In California, which limits non-economic damages to $250,000, the average actual premium is $27,570, eight percent higher than the average of all states that have no caps on non-economic damages. Medical Liability Monitor, 2001.

 

Malpractice premiums in California increased by 190% during the first 12-years following enactment of the $250,000 MICRA cap. Proposition 103 Enforcement Project Study, 1995. It took California's Proposition 103insurance reformto lower and stabilize malpractice premium rates.

 

"[A]ny limitations placed on the judicial system will nave no immediate effect on the cost of liability insurance for health care providers." Final Report of the Insurance Availability and Medical Malpractice Industry Committee, a bipartisan committee of the West Virginia Legislature, issued January 7, 2003.

 

"Nevada's new medical-liability program won't see immediate improvement in premium rates after a recent legislative initiative. . . . [A]nother company insuring physicians for medical liability, American Physicians Assurance, also wasn't planning any reduction." Best's Insurance News, August 20, 2002.

 

"We wouldn't tell you or anyone that the reason to pass tort reform would be to reduce insurance rates." Sherman Joyce, President of the American Tort Reform Association, "Study Finds No Link Between Tort Reforms and Insurance Rates," Liability Week, July 19, 1999.

 

"Insurers never promised that tort reform would achieve specific premium savings . . ." From a March 13, 2002 press release by the American Insurance Association (AIA).

 

An internal document citing a study written by Florida insurers regarding that state's omnibus tort "reform" law of 1986 said that "The conclusion of the study is that the non-economic cap . . . [and other tort 'reforms'] will produce little or no savings to the tort system as it pertains to medical malpractice." Medical Professional Liability, State of Florida, St. Paul fire and Marine Insurance Company, St. Paul Mercury Insurance Company.

 

In Missouri, which has caps, the number of claims has been declining, the cost per claim has been declining, yet medical malpractice premiums are going up.

 

Fib: Juries are giving medical malpractice victims outrageously high verdict awards:

 

FACT: Median payouts are relatively low - and have not risen significantly over the past decade.

 

Despite questionable anecdotal evidence of excessive jury verdicts, the hard facts show that malpractice awards are rarely excessive. The median malpractice payout for 2000 is $125,000, according to the National Practitioner's Databank.

 

"Not only has there been no 'explosion' in medical malpractice payouts at any time during the last 30 years . . .payments (in constant dollars) have been extremely stable and virtually flat since the mid-1980s." Medical Malpractice Insurance: Stable Losses/Unstable Rates, Americans for Insurance Reform, October 10, 2002.

 

Fib: There are many frivolous medical malpractice lawsuits.

 

FACT: Most people with legitimate medical malpractice claims never go to court.

 

A study done by the Harvard Medical Practice Study Group determined that for every 8 potential medical malpractice claims, only 1 claim was actually filed. Patients, Doctors, and Lawyers: Medical Injury, Malpractice Litigation, and Patient Compensation in New York, Harvard Medical Practice Study Group (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University, 1990).

 

"Legal professionals, legislators, and the public in general often receive a distorted picture of medical negligence litigation based on selective reporting of cases by the mass media and by propaganda efforts of groups advocating changes to American tort laws." Medical Negligence, the Litigation Process and Jury Verdicts in Medical Malpractice Cases: Implications for Indiana, Neil Vidmar, Ph.D., Russell M. Robinson II Professor of law at Duke Law School, December 2, 2002. See also Java Jive: Genealogy of a Juridical Icon, Michael McCann, William Haltom, and Anne Bloom, 56 University of Miami Law Review 114 (2001).

 

Fib: Insurers constantly must settle frivolous lawsuits in order to "make them go away":

 

FACT: Insurers themselves admit that they don't settle frivolous claims.

 

"In interviews with liability insurers that I undertook, the most consistent theme from them was: 'We do not settle frivolous cases!' . . . [Insurers'] policy on frivolous cases is based on the belief that if they ever begin to settle cases just to make them go away, their credibility will be destroyed and this will encourage more litigation." Medical Negligence, the Litigation Process and Jury Verdicts in Medical Malpractice Cases: Implications for Indiana, Neil Vidmar, Ph.D., Russell M. Robinson II Professor of law at Duke Law School, December 2, 2002.

 

Fib: We should follow the example of California, where caps are working:

 

FACT: Though California has some of the most draconian limits on the rights of patients in medical malpractice (via a 1975 law called MICRA), average medical malpractice premiums are higher than in states without caps, premiums and health care costs continue to rise, and most Californians want to eliminate the cap. The state had to pass insurance reform to stop skyrocketing premiums after its tort "reform" succeeded only in filling insurer's pockets.

 

In California, which limits non-economic damages to $250,000, the average actual premium is $27,570, eight percent higher than the average of all states that have no caps on non-economic damages. Medical Liability Monitor, 2001.

 

Malpractice premiums in California increased by 190% during the first 12-years following enactment of the $250,000 MICRA cap. Proposition 103 Enforcement Project Study, 1995. It took California's Proposition 103 - insurance reform - to lower and stabilize malpractice premium rates.

 

Since 1998, premiums in California have risen 37% compared to the nationwide average of just 5.7%. American Medical Association, Socioeconomic Characteristics of Medical Practice, 2000-2002.

 

California's health care costs have continued to skyrocket at a rate faster than inflation since the passage of MICRA. Inflation as measured by the Consumer Price Index rose 186% between 1975 and 1993; yet California's health care costs grew by 343% during the same period. In addition, California's health care costs have grown at almost twice the rate of inflation since 1985.

 

Californians overwhelmingly oppose their state's caps. A 1997 statewide poll of Californians shows: 74% approve of removing MICRA's limit on non-economic damages in certain cases; 66% believe the MICRA cap should be eliminated for doctors who negligently harm children and 58% believe the MICRA cap should be eliminated for doctors who negligently cause death. Fairbank, Maslin, Maulin, & Associates California statewide poll, 1997.

 

Fib: Non-economic damages caps just limit frivolous "pain and suffering" claims by plaintiffs:

 

FACT: Juries are competent and conservative, and jury verdicts tend to be consistent with judgments of neutral medical experts.

 

"The assertion that jurors decide cases out of sympathy for injured plaintiffs rather than the legal merits of the case . . . have been made about malpractice juries in the United States since at least the nineteenth century. Yet, research shows no support for these claims."

 

Medical Negligence, the Litigation Process and Jury Verdicts in Medical Malpractice Cases: Implications for Indiana, Neil Vidmar, Ph.D., Russell M. Robinson II Professor of Law at Duke Law School, December 2, 2002.

 

A 1992 comparison of jury verdicts and the reviews of insurance company-hired doctors showed that jury verdicts tended to be "consistent with" the doctors' assessments of medical records. The Influence of Standard of Care and Severity of Injury on the Resolution of Medical Malpractice Claims, Taragin et al, 117 Annals of Internal Medicine 780 (1992).

 

Fib: A recent Bush Administration U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) report shows that America's legal system is the cause of high medical-malpractice insurance rates for doctors.

 

FACT: The one-sided "report" is nothing more than 28 pages of industry talking points.

 

Key sources have direct money ties to the insurance industry. Law Professor Jeffrey O'Connell, cited throughout the "report," took $67,000 from the insurance industry to oppose the 1988 California insurance reform initiative (Proposition 103, which was approved by voters) to roll-back insurance rates.

 

The American Tort Reform Association (ATRA) and the law firm of its general counsel, Victor Schwartz, are cited frequently, including as a source of statistics. Schwartz's law firm - Shook, Hardy & Bacon - lobbies for USAA Insurance Co., Health Insurance Association of America, CIGNA Corp., and the American Association of Health Plans.

 

The "report" relies on data from the Physician Insurers Association of America, a trade group of medical-malpractice insurance companies owned by healthcare providers.

 

Key numbers are dubious or old. A company called Jury Verdict Research (JVR) is cited as a source of jury awards in medical malpractice cases. But on June 24, 2002, The Wall Street Journal reported that Jury Verdict Research's 2,951-case database "has large gaps." The company collects information unsystematically, can't say how many cases it misses, and doesn't include "zero" verdicts, the newspaper reported.

 

In addition, numbers claiming malpractice caps result in lower premiums for doctors are 12 years old.

 

"Personal correspondence" is cited repeatedly as a source of statistics. Some of the most exaggerated examples of premium increases are based on the personal correspondence of US Rep. Charles "Chip" Pickering (R-MS).

 

The "report" relies heavily on a survey of doctors conducted by Harris Interactive and paid for by the American Medical Association.

 

Key facts are left out. When claiming that malpractice premium increases are higher in states that don't cap malpractice awards, the "report" omits examples that don't fit its argument. Nine states without damage caps had no increase in premiums, but that doesn't appear in the "report."

 

Fib: High malpractice premiums for doctors cause the patients' health insurance premiums to rise.

 

FACT: The cost of medical malpractice liability premiums amount to less than one percent of total health care costs.

 

The Consumer Federation of America reports that medical malpractice premiums comprise only 0.59 percent of national health care costs - so even eliminating medical liability altogether would do little to reduce health care costs. Malpractice Suits Not Driving Medical Costs Up, Says Group, The New Orleans Times-Picayune, May 5, 1999, at E3.

 

FACTS: Caps do not reduce premiums.

 

Instead, caps discriminate against patients most seriously injured by malpractice and children, women, seniors, and minorities - while enriching the insurance companies that caused premiums to rise because of their own bad business decisions and investments.

 

Juries, not a one-size-fits-all arbitrary cap determined by politicians, should decide what medical malpractice victims receive in compensation.

 

The only thing we need to reform is the insurance industry - not the legal system.

 

Also, insurance rates are higher in CA where there are caps than in states where there are no caps.

 

http://www.atla.org/medmal/caltable.pdf

 

 





 
 
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