Any teen could overspend his allowance. Anyone could keep going into debt until he/she goes bankrupt.
So uif you see any wisdom in the Obama Administration, chances are you are overspending and you are deep in debt. If you have little debt and cn pay it off withing a year or two, you cnnot see any wisdom in Obama's administration
So uif you see any wisdom in the Obama Administration, chances are you are overspending and you are deep in debt. If you have little debt and cn pay it off withing a year or two, you cnnot see any wisdom in Obama's administration
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 1:31 PM
So if you see any wisdom in the Obama Administration, chances are you are overspending and you are deep in debt. If you have little debt and can pay it off within a year or two, you cannot see any wisdom in Obama's administration
Simple Jim, it means that those who are responsible with their money can see the foolishness of the Obama spending. Those who are irresponsible will see wisdom in overspending.
That makes the assumption that those who are responsible will disapprove of Obama's spending and those who are irresponsible are approving his spending. Comes from the bailout mentalities.
Yes, Jim, humans do both. some let their emotions run away and they end up frustrated and deep in debt. Reasonalb people plan. Yes, I am very evil because I point out you flawed logic.
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Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 1:36 PM
Do you have any concept about when the country hasn't been in debt?
Yes indeed.
You profess to be such a student of history - you should know the answer.
Of course, I know the answer
Try Andrew Jackson's administration.
I am also a student of logic and finance. Obviously wyo aren't because you would have known that debt is a relative term and as I pointed out that those whocan pay off their debts in a year or two and responsible people. thos who are in debt for many many years are foolish. Get the picture?
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 2:57 PM
So uif you see any wisdom in the Obama Administration, chances are you are overspending and you are deep in debt.
i see wisdom in the obama admin, especially in comparison to those who were running against him, and i do not owe a fucking soul a fucking dime; i live on a fixed income and i do well.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 5:12 PM
A fool and his money soon part. And yes, Obama is spending your money right now.
interesting. why were you silient when shrub was running up the bills, and not paying for them? and why are you blaming obama, for paying off shrub's debts? in essence that is what is happening.
it seems to me, if you WERE silent while shrub ran up record deficits, then you have no right to whine now.
and you WERE silent, while shrub ran up those record debts. in fact, i can remember your rationalizations, parroting cheney, that deficit spending, even the radical, extensive deficit spending, was not a problem. now that we can see that the horrid deficit spending by the past admin IS a oproblem, you have no credibility.
....like all other Presidents before him is spending the federal tax money. Once you've PAID your taxes, potsy, the money is no longer "yours"......it then belongs to the federal government to use in its budget.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 6:17 PM
....like all other Presidents before him is spending the federal tax money. Once you've PAID your taxes, potsy, the money is no longer "yours"......it then belongs to the federal government to use in its budget.
Well, thank yo, Janie, you just proved my point., The money that obama is spending is not his. It is the taxpayers; therefore, he is stealing from the taxpayers when he overspends.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 7:02 PM
So you are saying that if the gopvernment spends the entire GDP the taxpayers are responsible for paying the mponey spent by the fools.
Exactly what I said. A fool and his money(government and Obama) soon part.
that might have been what you meant, BUT that is not what mz pphhrogg or i said. by the way that you make up shit that you then attribute to others, you really are a stupid fuck.
Just like a prodigal son who has ytour credit card and bank account.
explain that.
He will spend you into poverty and you have no right to complain.
actually, for the most part, he is paying off debts run up by reagan, and the two shrubs - and if you were to have any credibility, you would have had to have complained then. now, when the debts have come due, it is way too late.
here is a good indication of who ran up the debts that obama is paying off now - just look at those rising red lines, for reagan, for poppy shrub, and for shrub, and you can see who actually spent the money: http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 7:09 PM
.that isn't what I said at all. THANKS for proving your own stupidity, potsy!
It is exactly what you said. You said that the money belongs to the government after you pay your taxes and when they spend their money and run up a debt, you owe them becausr they will have to pay for their debt with taxpayers money. And you obviously approve because you let them run us into poverty/
Your turn to prove you are not stupid.
You pay for the debts you make and the government pays for their debts with your money they take from you in taxes.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 7:11 PM
It is exactly what you said.
nope, that is what you made up, you stupid fuck. you really need to learn to read more accurately, and to do so WITHOUT your fantasies interfering, like they did here.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 7:18 PM
So you are saying that if the gopvernment spends the entire GDP the taxpayers are responsible for paying the mponey spent by the fools.
Exactly what I said. A fool and his money(government and Obama) soon part.
that might have been what you meant, BUT that is not what mz pphhrogg or i said. by the way that you make up shit that you then attribute to others, you really are a stupid fuck.
Hey I am not so stupid that I think the government can spend forever and the taxpayers not =feel the result of that. You and mx pphhrog are the ones who believe that.
Just like a prodigal son who has ytour credit card and bank account.
explain that.
The prodigal son was the one who spent all of his welth and was broke. Hey that happens to individuals and states(California)and even the US under Obama. And you call me stupid when I see the truth and you don't. Chuckle
He will spend you into poverty and you have no right to complain.
actually, for the most part, he is paying off debts run up by reagan, and the two shrubs - and if you were to have any credibility, you would have had to have complained then. now, when the debts have come due, it is way too late.
WQell, I rest my case. You just prove that you are stupid. If he were paying off their debts, the deficits would not be there and the debts would be reduced. He is spending his own big time money and you don't know anything about finance or economics.
here is a good indication of who ran up the debts that obama is paying off now - just look at those rising red lines, for reagan, for poppy shrub, and for shrub, and you can see who actually spent the money:http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
If you had any sense, you would note the amount of the debt at the end of each of their terms and real9ze that each president has added his own debt to the predceding president. The deficits during t=those administrations determined their debt. The extra 2 tril that the White House announced is all Obama's. Now if you don't know any more about finance and economics than that, you are just blowing smoke. You cnnot prove your point.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 26 2009, 7:23 PM
nope, that is what you made up, you stupid fuck. you really need to learn to read more accurately, and to do so WITHOUT your fantasies interfering, like they did here.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 11:42 AM
Sorry, potsy....
August 26 2009, 10:23 PM
......but I will not be answering ANY of your questions until you stop proving that you're a senile OLD fool.
You won't answer my questions because you can't answer them without having egg on you face.
You know how those relative pronouns revealed your senility. And you think the money that taxpays pay belongs to the government but you won't insist they halt their spending because that is not the taxpayers' money. Gee,k Janie you are rather dense.
...and since YOU can't even remember how to spell your OWN NAME, I don't think you can read minds either....so quit making a fool of yourself by trying to "think" that you knowwhat I'm thinking.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 3:53 PM
Nope.....
August 27 2009, 3:18 PM
...and since YOU can't even remember how to spell your OWN NAME, I don't think you can read minds either....so quit making a fool of yourself by trying to "think" that you knowwhat I'm thinking.
That's fine with me, Janie. You are too shallow to enter into a decent conversation anyway.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 6:43 PM
You won't answer my questions because you can't answer them without having egg on you face.
potsie, your questions are indeeed difficult to answer, but not because they are inciteful - rather because they are usually nonsensical. and your "gratuitous interpretations" of the responses of mine, and of others, where you simply fabricate an "interpretation" of our responses that is to your liking, but not in line with what we said, makes any accurate response to your statements impossible
if i may make a suggestion, DO NOT "GRATUITOUSLY INTERPRET" THE RESPONSES OF OTHERS, SIMPLY COPY THEM INTO YOUR WRITING VERBATIM, AND LET THEM STAND ON THEIR OWN. YOU DO NOT GET TO ALTER THE THOUGHTS OF OTHERS, WHEN YOU CRITIQUE THEM.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 6:49 PM
..can have a "decent" conversation with you, potsy. You are much too senile to make any sense whatsoever anymore.
The subject of the thread is the wisdom of overspending. You obviously do not believe that anything is wrong ith overspending; therefore, the t5ruthy that "a fool and his money soon part' does not phase you or have any significance, does it.
And you call that nonsense. Yes, America will always be rich and Obama can just keep spending. Well, Well.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 6:56 PM
potsie, your questions are indeeed difficult to answer, but not because they are inciteful - rather because they are usually nonsensical.
Of course, my pointinmg out that the percentage of the GDP and the flawed logic of that suirplus could not be anything other than nonsense. Right?
and your "gratuitous interpretations" of the responses of mine, and of others, where you simply fabricate an "interpretation" of our responses that is to your liking, but not in line with what we said, makes any accurate response to your statements impossible
I checked out the URL that you gave me, and I poinmted out the flaw. That is clearly the correct interpretation that should give you incite as to why percentages and actual numbers are differennt. But you tell me that is my interpretation. Of course, it is my interpretation because it is correct.
if i may make a suggestion, DO NOT "GRATUITOUSLY INTERPRET" THE RESPONSES OF OTHERS, SIMPLY COPY THEM INTO YOUR WRITING VERBATIM, AND LET THEM STAND ON THEIR OWN. YOU DO NOT GET TO ALTER THE THOUGHTS OF OTHERS, WHEN YOU CRITIQUE THEM.
So you prove that the surplus is there during the Clinton administration and get angry at my flawed logic without telling me w3hat is wrong with my logic. Suyre, you are always right because you refuse to look at the facts.
Do you still believe you can spend your way to rices? That is the topi9c and you did not offer one ounce of proof of how that can be done.
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 7:08 PM
Re: So how much wisdom do you see in Obama Adminiustration
August 27 2009, 6:56 PM
potsie, your questions are indeeed difficult to answer, but not because they are inciteful - rather because they are usually nonsensical.
Of course, my pointinmg out that the percentage of the GDP and the flawed logic of that suirplus could not be anything other than nonsense. Right?
actually, the nonsensical way you stated that assertion, ensures that it remains nonsense. if you wish to present a principle,do so logically and cogently.
and your "gratuitous interpretations" of the responses of mine, and of others, where you simply fabricate an "interpretation" of our responses that is to your liking, but not in line with what we said, makes any accurate response to your statements impossible
I checked out the URL that you gave me, and I poinmted out the flaw. That is clearly the correct interpretation that should give you incite as to why percentages and actual numbers are differennt. But you tell me that is my interpretation. Of course, it is my interpretation because it is correct.
you tried unsucessfully to explain the flaw.
if i may make a suggestion, DO NOT "GRATUITOUSLY INTERPRET" THE RESPONSES OF OTHERS, SIMPLY COPY THEM INTO YOUR WRITING VERBATIM, AND LET THEM STAND ON THEIR OWN. YOU DO NOT GET TO ALTER THE THOUGHTS OF OTHERS, WHEN YOU CRITIQUE THEM.
So you prove that the surplus is there during the Clinton administration and get angry at my flawed logic without telling me w3hat is wrong with my logic. Suyre, you are always right because you refuse to look at the facts.
what facts? and, i have not mentioned any "surplus" of the clinton admin - that is another "creative" statement of yours, about what i supposedly said.
but, i am curious, you mentioned my attempts to "prove" the clinton surplus ' WHERE DID I DO THAT??
Do you still believe you can spend your way to rices?
nope, i don't even know what the means.
That is the topi9c and you did not offer one ounce of proof of how that can be done.
if you mean "spend my way to riches" i have NEVER advocated that - and i definitely want you to show me exactly where i HAVE said that!!!!!
in fact, the only thing i have advocated, about spending, is that we should have clamped down on the incredible spending of the past admin, so that we sould not have to spend now. what part of that do you not understand?
and of course, those of us that were silent while reagan, and the bushes, spent our money, should remain silent now.
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