I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
And if you really think Beck is capable of imparting honest, important information, you sure must have had a very strange eduction - one that robbed you of the ability to think critically.
No one else researched and reported on the self proclaimed communist Van Jones who had to resign (or get his ass fired) after Beck reported his research findings.
Now, I hope ACORN is investigated.
If we waited for the state run liberal media, we would never hear about these loons....
Bush's administration spent 8 years investigating ACORN, plus countless individual investigations from various rightwing run locales and nothing, so what the hell do you think Beck will come up with? All he will do is repeat some of the many allegations that have already been investigated and put his own spin on them, in my opinion.
don't think so, this is all about NEW and recent crimes from the slimy sleazy ACORN group. With Obami winning, ACORN's arrogance is at an all time high and theyu got caught....
don't think so, this is all about NEW and recent crimes from the slimy sleazy ACORN group. With Obami winning, ACORN's arrogance is at an all time high and theyu got caught....
There is some kind of new hidden-camera video floating around. I haven't seen it, I've only heard reference to it.
yes, I saw a video showing ACORN slime balls telling people how to cheat on Federal Income taxes....something about two play acting as a Pimp and a hooker and how to avoid paying any taxes; you know, typical ACORN types way of life....
The leftist hamsters are so predictable....they're the first to not watch someone proving their half-ass politics is ripe with corruption and the first to blast the ones bringing the facts as crazy...LOL! Cute little creatures though as they run around on their little wheels waiting for their masters to feed them!
The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan
Ron
(Login indisgeyes) Re: Glenn Beck September 10 2009, 4:25 PM
"Bush's administration spent 8 years investigating ACORN, plus countless individual investigations from various rightwing run locales and nothing, so what the hell do you think Beck will come up with? All he will do is repeat some of the many allegations that have already been investigated and put his own spin on them, in my opinion."
I don't know if they did or not to tell you the truth but I watched Beck at 5p.m. and he found something. Seems Acorn lawyers and tax people were telling the undercover couple how to avoid paying their taxes, if convicted they can serve up to a 7 year term in prison. Briging in under age girls for prostitution the couple said how could they handle that and the Acorn employee told them to count some as dependents. Never mentioned that prostution of underage girls was illigal. Oh this was an eye opener. Listen to Haniety tonight and you will see more. The question I liked that Beck asked our news media was "where are you, don't you have children? How can you not find this stuff out."
Ron, Beck didn't put his spin on it as you will see.
A couple of young white conservatives-- a guy and a girl-- went into ACORN posing as a prostitute and a pimp who wanted to buy a house and import thirteen young women from San Salvador to work in it.
The ACORN people fell all over themselves trying to help. According to Napolitano, ACORN could have broken several laws, including conspiracy.
It's hilarious. You should watch the tape.
I don't think you'll see it on CNN or MSNBC or CBS....
You'll have to watch a fair and balanced network.
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Maw, I'm glad you find this so funny, but did you know that they got millions [don't remember how much, I'm sure it will be repeated tonight] of tax dollars of which I am sure you had a part in giving to the government. Do you like knowing your tax dollars are being spent this way.
don't know if they did or not to tell you the truth but I watched Beck at 5p.m. and he found something. Seems Acorn lawyers and tax people were telling the undercover couple how to avoid paying their taxes, if convicted they can serve up to a 7 year term in prison. Briging in under age girls for prostitution the couple said how could they handle that and the Acorn employee told them to count some as dependents. Never mentioned that prostution of underage girls was illigal. Oh this was an eye opener. Listen to Haniety tonight and you will see more. The question I liked that Beck asked our news media was "where are you, don't you have children? How can you not find this stuff out."
Ron, Beck didn't put his spin on it as you will see.
I had incorrectly assumed that he would be trying to point out voter fraud, my mistake. Any entity that works to serve the community does itself and the community harm when they attempt tax fraud, when they apparently condone illegal activity, and particularly when they conspire to aid and abet illegal activity involving children. If any of the allegation against the Baltimore ACORN office are proven to be true I hope that they are fully prosecuted and given the maximum sentences. As to Beck's question, since this was set up as a sting operation by a freelance filmmaker how would you suppose that anyone in the media would have any idea that this particular ACORN would be willing to commit such acts? There is no evidence implicating ACORN as a whole and only calls to question the ethics of the one office and not ACORN in general.
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" had incorrectly assumed that he would be trying to point out voter fraud, my mistake. Any entity that works to serve the community does itself and the community harm when they attempt tax fraud, when they apparently condone illegal activity, and particularly when they conspire to aid and abet illegal activity involving children. If any of the allegation against the Baltimore ACORN office are proven to be true I hope that they are fully prosecuted and given the maximum sentences. As to Beck's question, since this was set up as a sting operation by a freelance filmmaker how would you suppose that anyone in the media would have any idea that this particular ACORN would be willing to commit such acts? There is no evidence implicating ACORN as a whole and only calls to question the ethics of the one office and not ACORN in general."
There's two brothers involved, making millions and really Ron you will have to see this to know what I'm talking about. Just watch the show.
BALTIMORE (AP) - The group ACORN has fired two employees who were seen on hidden-camera video giving tax advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman who pretended to be a prostitute.
Fox News Channel broadcast excerpts from the video Thursday. On the video, a man and woman visiting ACORN's Baltimore office asked about buying a house and how to account on tax forms for the woman's income. An ACORN employee advised the woman to list her occupation as "performance artist."
The pair also claimed they planned to employ teenage girls from central America as prostitutes, and an ACORN employee suggested that up to three of the girls could be claimed as dependents, according to transcripts of the video posted online by conservative activist James O'Keefe.
O'Keefe told Fox he posed as the pimp and that he was shocked by the ACORN employees' helpfulness.
In a statement, ACORN Maryland board member Margaret Williams said the video was an attempt to smear ACORN, and that undercover teams attempted similar setups in at least three other ACORN offices.
Williams said no tax returns were filed and no assistance was provided.
ACORNwhich stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Nowadvocates for poor people. It conducted a massive voter registration effort last year and became a target of conservatives when some employees were accused of submitting false registration forms with names such as "Mickey Mouse." ACORN has said only a handful of employees submitted false registration forms and did so in a bid to boost their pay.
I could not find that the Bush Administration invest6igated ACORN for eight years. They did investigate for voter fraud--But that certainly did not cover eight years.
Belkow is an article that shows how the higher po=wers stopped one investigation. Some poweres highwer than the ones who wnted to investiv=gate.
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House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. has backed off his plan to investigate purported wrongdoing by the liberal activist group ACORN, saying "powers that be" put the kibosh on the idea.
Mr. Conyers, Michigan Democrat, earlier bucked his party leaders by calling for hearings on accusations the Association of Community Organization for Reform Now (ACORN) has committed crimes ranging from voter fraud to a mob-style "protection" racket.
"The powers that be decided against it," Mr. Conyers told The Washington Times as he left the House chambers Wednesday.
The chairman declined to elaborate, shrugging off questions about who told him how to run his committee and give the Democrat-allied group a pass.
Conyers spokesman Jonathan Godfrey said late Thursday, several hours after the first request for comment, that the chairman had been referring to himself as "the powers that be."
Pittsburgh lawyer Heather Heidelbaugh, whose testimony about ACORN at a March 19 hearing on voting issues prompted Mr. Conyers to call for a probe, said she was perplexed by Mr. Conyers' explanation for his change of heart.
"If the chair of the Judiciary Committee cannot hold a hearing if he wants to, [then] who are the pow
I could not find that the Bush Administration invest6igated ACORN for eight years. They did investigate for voter fraud--But that certainly did not cover eight years.
Belkow is an article that shows how the higher po=wers stopped one investigation. Some poweres highwer than the ones who wnted to investiv=gate.
House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. has backed off his plan to investigate purported wrongdoing by the liberal activist group ACORN, saying "powers that be" put the kibosh on the idea.
Mr. Conyers, Michigan Democrat, earlier bucked his party leaders by calling for hearings on accusations the Association of Community Organization for Reform Now (ACORN) has committed crimes ranging from voter fraud to a mob-style "protection" racket.
"The powers that be decided against it," Mr. Conyers told The Washington Times as he left the House chambers Wednesday.
The chairman declined to elaborate, shrugging off questions about who told him how to run his committee and give the Democrat-allied group a pass.
Conyers spokesman Jonathan Godfrey said late Thursday, several hours after the first request for comment, that the chairman had been referring to himself as "the powers that be."
Pittsburgh lawyer Heather Heidelbaugh, whose testimony about ACORN at a March 19 hearing on voting issues prompted Mr. Conyers to call for a probe, said she was perplexed by Mr. Conyers' explanation for his change of heart.
"If the chair of the Judiciary Committee cannot hold a hearing if he wants to, [then] who are the pow
ACORN management is responsible for the lax controls over the people working in their organization. They should be stripped of any federal funding until they get their ship in order.
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
ACORN management is responsible for the lax controls over the people working in their organization. They should be stripped of any federal funding until they get their ship in order.
Carolyn, should we refuse federal funding to every organization that has a few people within their midst that commit criminal activities? How about the military, police departments, fire departments, city and state governments? I know those are all government entities, so you can't refuse them federal dollars even though many of them have criminals within them. Who else gets federal funds, name one that hasn't had some kind of scandal? I can't think of any organization of any kind that hasn't had scandals. Should we have stripped the American Red Cross when they had scandals? What about Haliburton? Even when they made laws that banned them from doing federal work they ended up with contracts galore receiving billions in federal dollars. Frankly speaking, there isn't a single organization receiving federal dollars that hasn't had some kind of crooks working for them scheming of ways to rip off tax payers and breaking laws.
The leftist minions will continue to refuse to believe anything negative about anything leftist until there's a "Blue Dress"...and then they'll excuse it away and change the subject!
The irony about Beck is that he came from CNN...and the irony is that he actually cares about this country and is very passionate about it...something very rare and unusual in these days and times! He has shed light into places the mainstream refused to go...and they refused it because they knew what they would find and refused it on partisan political reasons! That should be enough for every man, woman, and child in this country to be thankful that there is a Beck! But instead we see partisan leftist refusing the truth out of partisan politics or out of their cult-like devotion to a political agenda that the great majority haven't a clue of where it's taking this country or where it's ideology is rooted...even when it's shown to them over and over by people that care enough to do so! Wake-up people this is really happening!
The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan
LOL! and of course you'll refuse to believe any evidence because you "choose" to not believe it because it's showing yet another leftist scam in a negative light...! There's a mental health issue here that needs to be addressed....possibly deprogramming!
The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan
I am not trying to say that there are not some within ACORN that have not commited criminal acts (or even some that still are), I am saying that I do not believe that it is as widespread as the rightwing wants us all to believe and that I do not think that it is worse than other organizations receiving federal funds.
I am saying that I do not believe that it is as widespread as the rightwing wants us all to believe and that I do not think that it is worse than other organizations receiving federal funds.
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Frankly, I don't care how widespread corruption and fraud are in an org, contracted business, politician's personal life or within their heirarchy when it's being funded by our tax dollars. If we would clean up the fraud and corruption in ALL government entities, maybe we could fund healthcare with that 'saved' money.
Let's start with the $500M in Medicare fraud that's been thrown around. Cleaning that up first is a downpayment on healthcare for at least a few million uninsured. I'm just saying we seem to call attention to fraud, but never quite get around to full investigations and correcting these situations. There have been nearly 8 months where Obama could have done something about that Medicare fraud. For that matter, he, and others before him, could have and should have done something about ALL fraud. I'm just tired of throwing money away without correcting what's wrong...knowingly wrong, then asking for even more money on top of the wrong. Fix it all, dammit!
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This message has been edited by inka_d on Sep 11, 2009 9:51 AM
Carolyn, should we refuse federal funding to every organization that has a few people within their midst that commit criminal activities? How about the military, police departments, fire departments, city and state governments?
ROTFLMAO. Your l;ogic is that we should finamnce corruption because we are not going to do anything about those guilty of criminal activity. It's there and we are going to finance it rather than prosecute the crininam.
Click the link, Maw...it's really fun and it's helpful, actually. I found it on another board."
Inka_d, I like Drudge and for every story he puts on his site he supplies the source. The thing that gets these libs is he's uaually the first with the most. In other words it gets under their skin which I could care less about.
Absolutely not, and your question shows that you do not think logically. My point is that it is not possible to prevent all corruption and if they are going end funding organizations that are corrupt they need to end it for all, they cannot pick and chose based on political motivations. The rightwings demand that ACORN receive no government funds is purely motivated by politics. I know we need to do more to make sure our public money does not fund corruption but singling out one organization is not the answer.
I'm not getting BS from the Obama administration, but sure as hell get a lot of it from the right.
As far as two Acorn workers being fired, GOOD. Two doesn't make an organization tho.
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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
Absolutely not, and your question shows that you do not think logically.
My question refers to the criminal action of people in the organizations that receive tax money. They should be behind bars if they have committed criminal acts--not collecting money from the tax payers. You are the one who has absolutely no logic in saying we should continue throwing money to corrupt people.
My point is that it is not possible to prevent all corruption and if they are going end funding organizations that are corrupt they need to end it for all, they cannot pick and chose based on political motivations.
Well, just keep letting the criminals have the money. Ever notice my post about John Conyers who was told to stop his investigation of ACORN. MY. MY. What lgic you are using.
The rightwings demand that ACORN receive no government funds is purely motivated by politics.
And what is the motivation for giving the money to ASCORN? Politics!!!
I know we need to do more to make sure our public money does not fund corruption but singling out one organization is not the answer.
Singling out one organization is your idea. Every organization should be investigate =d and criminals be removed. Obama say we were going to pay for health care reform using the waste and fraud from Medicare and Medicaid--But you tell me we can't stop their criminal activity. Well sop much for real logic.
Apparently you missed my second post in this thread, Poetse, where I called for the full prosecution and maximum sentence for people who commit criminal activity. That is hardly condoning any criminal activity.
Two more ACORN officials were fired Friday after a second video surfaced showing staffers in the community organizers' Washington office offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute acquire illegal home loans that would help them set up a brothel. The firings came less than 24 hours after another pair of ACORN officials from the group's Baltimore office were canned for instructing the "pimp" and "prostitute" how to falsify tax forms and seek illegal benefits for 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador that pair said they wanted to import to work as child prostitutes.
And now ...
The Census Director has sent a letter to the National Headquarters of ACORN notifying the group that it will no longer have a role in conducting the 2010 census. ACORN had previously been tapped to help with low level data gathering.
Keep up the good work Beck. It's great to see some in the media still do the job they're supposed to do.
"...Keep up the good work Beck. It's great to see some in the media still do the job they're supposed to do
GAG ME WITH A SPOON.
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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
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