From the AP: The Norwegian Nobel Committee says U.S. President Barack Obama has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
Even as a candidate he made the case that strength through diplomacy would go further than just the threat of military might in making the US and the world safer.
I agree that it might be premature, but he accomplished more diplomatically as a candidate than Bush did in 8 years as President.
A con man with a glib tongue can sell Eskimos refrigarators.
IMHO that is exactly what has happened. T^here was nothing but talk; therefore, no valid results were placed in evidence.
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While I think Obama has the opportunity and the drive to rack up accomplishments in this area, he's hardly done anything to garner the award. Sheesh! Speaking about setting a low bar!
Can anyone name someone who is more deserving of the reward this time around and why they qualify. Obama has done more in the realm of diplomacy since he became a candidate for the Presidency than anyone that I can think of. While the results are still in question there is no doubt that his "glib tongue" has opened dialogue where we had none before.
Actions speak louder than words, "just words". He spent the last year primarily campaigning. Some of those promises already broken, or 'changing' his position. Sorry, but the 'hope' the judges 'feel' he brings to the world, as I read it this morning, isn't really, imo, a concrete action taken to warrant this award as written (willed) by Nobel:
In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."
And, may I suggest that people read about the other contenders, who lost to Obama? They have real accomplishments, with world worth.
on another note:
So, what do you all think he will do with the prize money?
the truly deserving people of the past have had the celebration of their real accomplishments that came through genuine effort and literally lifetimes of real work ...now
the award has been rendered worthless
it is a political trophy
no longer the valuable hard won - true star of accomplishment that it was
The Nobel peace prize has been a joke for years........
2007
AL GORE The award to Al Gore and the IPCC "for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change" fits in with a subset of cosmopolitan frauds, fakers, murderers, thieves, and no-accounts going back about twenty years.
2005
MOHAMED ELBARADEI (joint winner). He's done such a nice job with Iran.
2004
WANGARI MAATHAI The Kenyan ecologist peacefully teaches that the AIDS virus is a biological agent deliberately created by the Man.
2002
JIMMY CARTER JR., former President of the United States of America. A true cosmopolitan, he has undermined the foreign policy of his own country and vouched for the bona fides of tyrants and murderers all over the world. Commenting on the award, Nobel Committee Chairman Gunnar Berge emphasized that the award was meant as a denunciation of American policy toward Iraq. "It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Berge said. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."
2001
UNITED NATIONS, New York, NY, USA.
KOFI ANNAN, United Nations Secretary General. Among other things, they respectively served as the vehicle for, and presided over, one of the biggest scams in history.
1994
YASSER ARAFAT (joint winner), Chairman of the Executive Committee of the PLO, President of the Palestinian National Authority. He was a cold-blooded murderer both before and after receiving the award.
1992
RIGOBERTA MENCHU TUM, Guatemala. She is the notorious Guatemalan faker and author, sort of, of I, Rigoberta Menchu. Like President Obama, she is a memoirist of distinction.
1988
THE UNITED NATIONS PEACE-KEEPING FORCES New York, NY, U.S.A. Notwithstanding rapes and sex abuse committed by the team in Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea and the Congo, still doing fine work all over the world.
1976
BETTY WILLIAMS, United Kingdom, founder of the Northern Ireland Peace Movement (later renamed Community of Peace People), who in later years repeatedly called for the assassination of President George Bush. How peaceful can you get?
1973
LE DUC THO (with Henry Kissinger) for the 1973 peace with honor bequeathed to the fortunate people of Vietnam.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you." - Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah
I guess this is really just a commentary on how truly awful Bush was. People are handing out Nobel prizes to people just because they aren't Bush! Nice job, Republicans!!!
I guess this is really just a commentary on how truly awful Bush was. People are handing out Nobel prizes to people just because they aren't Bush! Nice job, Republicans!!!
So the assumption is that nothing is better than something? How interesting.
I guess this is really just a commentary on how truly awful Bush was. People are handing out Nobel prizes to people just because they aren't Bush! Nice job, Republicans!!!
I would suggest you review winners of the prize PRIOR to 2001. The idiocy started long before Bush was around.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you." - Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah
I agree with CFTR. I mean really... Carter? Gore? Give Obama one, what the hell? Why not? I just hope that a year from now, it isn't the sickest joke of his presidency.
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I only agree that it is premature for Abama to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. It would be better if he had gotten it towards the end of his Presidency.
I only agree that it is premature for Abama to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. It would be better if he had gotten it towards the end of his Presidency.
By the enbd of his presidency, we may have discovered there is no peace on earth.
"but he accomplished more diplomatically as a candidate than Bush did in 8 years as President."
Yeah you're exactly right about that! Bush only freed 50 million Iraqis from the murdering dictator....and Obama has sent the US economy into the shitter in only 9 months! He nationalized the American auto industry as well as the American banks and is on the way to socializing the entire United States of America! I guess to the socialist that decide who gets the prize Obama is a poster boy for their style of government...they've proven that by giving it to the idiot Jimma Carter and the equally large idiot Albert "Little Al" Gore Jr.!
and just as a side note...Obama hasn't done a damn thing diplomatically! But you can always prove me wrong by listing his accomplishments!
The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan
Please don't forget the women Bush liberated in Iraq and Afghagan [sp] who can now work and do the many things they were never allowed to do , like vote.
Please don't forget the women Bush liberated in Iraq and Afghagan [sp] who can now work and do the many things they were never allowed to do , like vote.
Evelyn
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You gotta be kidding me! Oh yea... All of those women tossed their burkha in the trash and now they walk the streets with their children just as the people in a farmer's market in Indiana. Yep everything is copacetic in the ME now that Big Bad G. W. Bush marched arm in arm with republicans over there and put the fear of George in them thar tyrants! No more tyrants no more war... Thanks be to George W. Bush!
Ahh, it's Obama who says there's not a war on terror any more. That war was won because there are no more terrorists. Gee, he even won the war in Afghanstan and tells us now that the problem is in Pakastan.
Why don't we face the fact? Obama is a man in an empty suit. He is totally lost as to where the enemy is. But liberals have always been lost trying to find the real enemy.
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Glenn Beck hates 9/11 survivors. Shocking as Glenn Beck claimed that he hates 9/11 survivors. The Fox news personality and media clown has always been an outrageous demagogue, a pied piper to the illiterate, unwashed masses that make up the Fox news audience. Michael Stone,Examiner.com
This message has been edited by Poetse12 on Oct 9, 2009 7:00 PM
Doing your own rewrite of history now, poetse? You think you can prove that Obama said that terrorism doesn't exist any more? Just exactly what do you believe he considers al qaida to be? Are they still operating in Afghanistan? Why would he single out Pakistan if terrorism no longer existed? You can't even tie your lies together because they are in direct opposition to each other.
Well....Actually the Obamaites do not use the term "War On Terror" any longer due to Obama's "kinder and diplomatic
approach and they have done all but line-up to kiss Iran's crazy extremist ass! Obama is lost... he is inept at anything except bullshitting his way through life like he always has done...and people, that smooth talk doesn't cut it with people that would if given the chance kill every single man woman and child in this country...and if given the opportunity do so by hacking their heads off at every major sports facility in the country or right in the streets! The Obamaites have their socialist dream but the Islamic terrorist have their dream of an Islamic world and since Obama refuses to see all of this or due to his total ineptness cannot realize that the Islamic extremist will strike again and he is making it damn easy for them to do so!
One small footnote on the above statement...when the terrorist strike and there are dead Americans scattered in the streets of this country the terrorist will not be the only ones with blood on their hands....and they will not be the only ones that will pay for it either! Wake-up people!
The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan
Can anyone name someone who is more deserving of the reward this time around and why they qualify.
James Earl Carter? And why? The Carter Center has done more for "world peace" in the last year than has President Obama.
And this is coming from someone who is no huge fan of James Earl Carter! "Jimmy" Carter has become far more "presidential" now that he ever was as President.
Like a steely blade in a silken sheath
We don't see what they're made of
They shout about love,
But when push comes to shove
They live for the things they're afraid of
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Rush - "The Weapon (Part II of Fear)"
There are those who treat every human
interaction as a military engagement that
could escalate into a potential battle
leading to a nice, satisfying conflict
that's part of a war. There is a name for
such people. They're called assholes.
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Stanley Bing - "Sun Tzu Was A Sissy"
Even as a candidate he made the case that strength through diplomacy would go further than just the threat of military might in making the US and the world safer. t
I make the case I can be a great judge....make me one, and I will prove it. sheesh. There were 205 nominees....and they came down to a man who hasn't actually achieved anything yet.
OMG.
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This message has been edited by susanklmr on Oct 9, 2009 7:51 PM
Compare this to Greg Mortenson, nominated for the prize by some members of Congress, whom the bookies gave 20-to-1 odds of winning. Son of a missionary, a former Army medic and mountaineer, he has made it his mission to build schools for girls in places where opium dealers and tribal warlords kill people for trying. His Central Asia Institute has built more than 130 schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan - a mission which has, along the way, inspired millions of people to view the protection and education of girls as a key to peace and prosperity and progress.
And this is just one of the 205 people who were in the running for the Nobel Peace Prize. Surely, even the liberals have to admit this man has done more than the President?
Take care.
Blessed Be.
Alice
"Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed frequently and for the same reason." From the movie, "Man of the Year"
Compare this to Greg Mortenson, nominated for the prize by some members of Congress, whom the bookies gave 20-to-1 odds of winning. Son of a missionary, a former Army medic and mountaineer, he has made it his mission to build schools for girls in places where opium dealers and tribal warlords kill people for trying. His Central Asia Institute has built more than 130 schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan - a mission which has, along the way, inspired millions of people to view the protection and education of girls as a key to peace and prosperity and progress.
And this is just one of the 205 people who were in the running for the Nobel Peace Prize. Surely, even the liberals have to admit this man has done more than the President?
WHAT A SLACKER....PFFFT.
~~life isn't about how to survive the storm but how to dance in the rain~~
Ahh, it's Obama who says there's not a war on terror any more.[PROVE THIS STATEMENT! ]That war was won because there are no more terrorists.[PROVE THIS STATEMENT!]Gee, he even won the war in Afghanstan [PROVE THIS STATEMENT!]and tells us now that the problem is in Pakastan.
Why don't we face the fact? Obama is a man in an empty suit. He is totally lost as to where the enemy is. But liberals have always been lost trying to find the real enemy.
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God commands you to tell the truth!
This message has been edited by cjgrill on Oct 9, 2009 11:43 PM
Ahh, it's Obama who says there's not a war on terror any more.[PROVE THIS STATEMENT! ]That war was won because there are no more terrorists.[PROVE THIS STATEMENT!] Gee, he even won the war in Afghanstan [PROVE THIS STATEMENT!] and tells us now that the problem is in Pakastan.
Why don't we face the fact? Obama is a man in an empty suit. He is totally lost as to where the enemy is. But liberals have always been lost trying to find the real enemy. *********************************** God commands you to tell the truth!
I don't even know what that means...
~~life isn't about how to survive the storm but how to dance in the rain~~
"but he accomplished more diplomatically as a candidate than Bush did in 8 years as President."
Yeah you're exactly right about that! Bush only freed 50 million Iraqis from the murdering dictator....and Obama has sent the US economy into the shitter in only 9 months! He nationalized the American auto industry as well as the American banks and is on the way to socializing the entire United States of America! I guess to the socialist that decide who gets the prize Obama is a poster boy for their style of government...they've proven that by giving it to the idiot Jimma Carter and the equally large idiot Albert "Little Al" Gore Jr.!
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well said Skip
"a purple finger in the air to wave at the Prize committee"
the Nobel prize has been rendered as valuable as a tee ball trophy that every member of the team that has the kid of the man who owns the trophy shop on it gets.
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