Re: TruthNovember 21 2010 at 7:14 AM
|Nelson (no login)|
Response to Truth
Late here and I don't want to get into another long post.
> ....in Edmonds' defense when he said the SOC was "shot down," it was forced down and whatever source he used might have considered forced down the same thing. >
If I'm reading that sentence right, I think you're missing the point. Lamade's SOC was neither shot down nor forced down. There is no evidence it was even still in the neighborhood when the Zeros struck, for I don't believe Lamade reports a close call. Just that he and the ill Tubbs flew south until once more they were low on fuel. He certainly never claimed Zeros forced him down, and thereafter the SOC saw duty until its accident months later. The men running the shuttle base at Broome were uneasy all night and through the early morning, expecting trouble, which of course did materialize.
> I hope the new Broome book is worthwhile, but I've read it claims the B-24A that was shot down into Roebuck Bay in turn downed WO Kudo's Zero with its tail guns, which seems odd. As far as I can tell, none of the three Ferry Command B-24As operating in Australia at the time had any armament. Then again, most sources still say 33 servicemen were lost in this crash, which is not supported by any contemporary documentation and appears to be a unknowing repetition from some early secondary source (probably Edmonds). >
Well, we know two of the three B-24As that reached Oz were destroyed at Broome, one of them still on the ground. The other, "Arabian Nights", did crash in the bay, or at least out at sea. That it had tail guns is apparently the result of the authors' research, and if so, Kudo and the B-24A could have mutually destroyed each other. There seem to be two points of conflict: Kudo was either shot down on the spot and his plane's destruction was seen from shore, OR his aircraft departed smoking and went down out of sight of land. Another Zero ran out of fuel, but the pilot was rescued. A bigger conflict is how many men were aboard the B-24A shot down over the bay: conventional wisdom is more than 30, all but the crew wounded men and an attending doctor. The new book knocks that figure down to about 20. All perished except one Sergeant Donaho; his bud Sergeant Beatty either drowned trying to swim ashore or died after reaching shore from exposure and exhaustion (a fate not unknown for men who swam to land from a long distance out at sea, as in this case). I, too, am interested in what new the authors have learned from their research.