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... yet another PRESIDENT GRANT!

January 25 2012 at 10:44 AM
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Jacques  (no login)


Response to SS President Grant-Circa 1942

 
Me thinks that the picture of SS PRESIDENT GRANT on the Pacific Wrecks site is the wrong one! Notice the hull number "2"? This picture is actually that of USS HARRIS (APA-2) taken sometime after February 1943 when she was reclassified from AP-8 to APA-2. This is the one that was originally named SS PINE TREE STATE when she was launched in 1921, renamed SS PRESIDENT GRANT in 1922, taken over by the US Navy in 1940 and again renamed USS HARRIS (AP-8). She saw out WW2 and was finally renamed SS PRESIDENT GRANT(2nd) in 1946 and scrapped 2 years later. See:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/03/03002.htm

A nice port-quarter view of this ship arriving at Olongapo P.I. May 4, 1927 can be found on The China Marines website at:

http://chinamarine.org/Tientsin/ButlersExpedition/GoingChinaSide.aspx

Two other sites also have it wrong. The website armedguard.com features this "USAT PRESIDENT GRANT" and another site has the same picture as "USAT President Grant. The troopship that returned Canberra survivors to Australia".

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Also see:

http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/Savo/SavoSurvivorPix.html

The picture is that of yet another PRESIDENT GRANT, this one a Type C3 cargo vessel with only limited passenger or troop carrying capacity whereas we know that the SS PRESIDENT GRANT which hit the reef near Milne Bay was a 1920's 502/522 class, passenger carrying vessel with a 153 person capacity, employed as a troopship (around 1 500 troop capacity). The GRANT in the picture is clearly the SS PRESIDENT GRANT (3rd) built as SEA BEAVER during 1945. She is described as a standard C3 freighter (C3-S-A4) on the APL website. See:

http://www.apl.com/history/timeline/stat5.htm#pgr1

Unfortunately the only known picture of the "true" PRESIDENT GRANT is that of PRESIDENT ADAMS before she became GRANT. At first glance this ship is very similar in appearance to the one which became USS HARRIS. Both had straight stems, cruiser sterns, a large single funnel and "goal post" masts. The only clear distinguishing feature being the continues superstructure whereas HARRIS had a break just abaft the bridge with a pair of derricks serving a cargo hatch. See:

http://www.apl.com/history/html/timeline_statistics.html#adams

The same (correct) picture appears on Wrecksite:

http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?31968

Regards,
Jacques


 
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  • SS President Grant-Circa 1942 - Bob Burns on Jan 25, 2012, 7:19 PM
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