Huh?December 12 2010 at 12:40 AM
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Something for statsguy or someone else, but Pointstreak has Omenica winning 1-0 even though they forfeited the game (were the home team and gamesheet shows home forfeit).
And anyone know what's up with the home forfeit anyway?
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|December 12 2010, 8:59 AM |
The Burns Lake @ Omineca game scheduled for last night was not played. Omineca forfeited the 2 points to Burns Lake. (Not enough players avaiable for Omineac was what I was told).
The only way to record this game, according to Pointstreak, was to record a 1-0 home victory for Omineca, but then to forfeit the two points to Burns Lake. This way the game would show the fact that is was a forfeiture.
If you look at the game details you will see that each team had a roster consisting on 2 players each. A Default Player and a Default Goaltender. In this way, no actual players will accrue any games played, points or goaltending stats.
I know it's strange, but it was the only way to show a game not played due to forfeit.
As far as I know, the Sunday game is to be played.
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|December 12 2010, 10:15 AM |
Is there any penalty or fine in place for late game sheets? Every week there seems to be a sheet or 2 that are late as the scores are not posted on pointstreak for awhile. I think if there isn't, then it should looked at. I know of an other league that fines the team $50 for first offence and $100 for all others. I think 12 hours from the start of the game from the home team is adequate time. What is everyones thoughts?
Everyone agrees, Zooie...No score for this post
|December 12 2010, 11:53 AM |
...these subjects deserve and need to be near the top of the topics list on the business agenda at the CIHL AGM. Unless someone alerts the team reps ahead of time that they are or are not going to attend the meeting you're never even sure who or which teams will show up.
So there's generally no way of knowing ahead of June whether a team even plans to be a part of the coming season. So many teams rely on the re-arrival of volunteers about the start of August that it's a wonder it all gets pulled together through a schedule that someone devolves after he has to twist himself into a pretzel to convince himself it's worth the pain of getting involved.
From week to week there are attempts it circumventing carding and BCAHA regs, people's names begin to show up on score sheets closer to the end of the season(to
ensure they have the five game eligibility to participate in playoffs). Unless either refs are alert, run a count, check who's who, or the opponent team does the same mental and who-knows-who check we are all forced to rely upon the integrity of the team volunteers and the sharp eyes of statsguy. It is no way to run a league...
There's a lot of ideas on the Forum for how to improve things but darn few active individuals really interested in making sure anything actually happens. It's the reality in 2010.
My personal feeling is that we could very well be down two teams by the end of the season ... and should seriously, as a league, review performance and membership requirements.
Another serious possibility to to go to two separate leagues instead of two divisions.
Small leagues seem to guarantee you a Coy Cup spot elsewhere...
None of it makes much sense economically...I see the Williams Lake people looking at the travel cost possibilities of the playoffs this season with a jaundiced eye. Will this be the first year we have pull-outs in playoffs? Let's say for example the Stamps get to the Coy...they could have to travel to Burns Lake , Houston or Smithers (likely two trips for one or two games) and then travel to Terrace, Rupert or Kitimat for one or two games -- and then two weeks later, if they are still successful, have to finance a long trip to Rupert for the Coy.
Works the same way for Rupert, Kitimat or Terrace if they are going all the way to the Rio Tinto Cup championship... shorter trip to Rupert for West teams.
I've been active in the league since 2001, others like Don Hanson (WLS) and the Burns Lake/Houston groups a deal longer. We hear annual "thoughts" about teams in PG, even UNBC, Quesnel etc, but the reality is we have lost Mackenzie Moose, Fort St. John Stars, 100 Mile House Bears, and gained Rupert Rampage, Omenica Ice and Hazelton Wolverines. Burns Lake Braves are back in, but for how long? Terrace had difficulties a year ago. Ice Demons are finding it tough to get volunteers (at least ones that come through!) They are OK(?) for players and even sponsors, despite the times, but costs are going up and spectator numbers going down. It's not a criticism of fans, but the more successful youir team is the more the fans expect. Busing costs are particularly onerous for longer trips.
It's not unusual for 12, 13 and 14 skaters to be the opposition in home games...but in my experience it usually leads to a blow-out. Last week we had 600 plus in attendance for the Saturday game (not bad for a Christmas time party weekend -- but less than 100 Sunday, which doesn't pay costs.
I don't have answers - just questions. Anybody else?
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|December 12 2010, 1:00 PM |
This is truely disappointing, not only for the league but for the Braves as well. The league is about to lose a team with that it needs for balance (both geographically speaking and divisionally) and now the Braves have to play the big ice in the puddle after a long layoff. I was hoping this new group would inspire the hockey in hooterville again but it takes a strong core of good people to get the buy in needed to make it. Now Vanderhoof will, in all likelihood, be in the same boat as 100 mile with fines to pay before reentering the league, and that can be a very difficult thing to overcome.