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Perhaps, just perhaps. Shall we try, or just judge first.

April 11 2002 at 10:23 PM
Linger  (no login)
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Response to You would fail the turing test

 
how kind that was of you to say that I have not achieved consciousness. Thank-you for suggesting that a machine, built in 1991, makes better conversation then I do.



>>the question would have to come from someone who had a clue

Indeed. And I posted it here, where I have seen posts with a clue.

like these on math:
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=60822&messageid=1006925337

http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=60822&messageid=1007507038

this on rare history:
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=60822&messageid=1007258988

And this on self abuse in the name of knowledge:
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=60822&messageid=1017288660

I mentioned the example I was given as Fermat's. Was this to show I was ignorant, or was this an example of a question. Take it as you will, or, as you have.

>>we don't have a grand unified theory
Dear sir! You must give leeway to the ignorant.

I, asking for a unified theory that encompasses everything, but erring in the words. Oops.

For the 'unified theory' does not unify everything, and the theory that will is to be called the 'Grand unified theory.'

Perhaps the diction of the ignorant masses could be given a moments consideration. Perhaps you could look at the intention and smile to yourself.

Much love. I wonder if you understood me the first time...

>>as well as other matrix materials, have been around for a long time

Maybe just a shred of respect on the off chance that i do know something about composites. Maybe I had heard the words epoxy, resin, and molding. Perhaps I have even used those words.

Maybe I watched the old NOVA episode that mentions injection molding I-beams on a shuttle mission so a frothy mix could be used, for lighter weight and even strength. Perhaps I was looking for something that you don't know about either. But a geometry that could be proven better. Maybe that was my question, something that no-one yet knows.

>>A clue, like "yes, if you are clever and under the right conditions you can push a rope".

Right, and that isn't being 'cute?' Is that being clever, or is that ignoring the spirit of my whole post? Am i ignorant for asking for a way of pushing a rope, or, in the spirit of my post, intelligent.

Sure you can push a stiff rope, a short length of rope, a large length coiled up. You could put a rod through it and push it, or put it in a shopping cart and push that.

Look at all those up there. They all look so nice, those cute little answers.

However, I believe you knew i wasn't looking for those answers. I suspect you understood the challenge better then you have let on.

But hey, here's to you, you showed me up.

what's needed is a grand unified theory and a water logged frozen rope. That, and some deliberate mis-understanding.


I posted this first time with the impression that this would be interesting. I post now with the feeling i have intruded on a private party.

Linger

 
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  1. And, again, you miss the point. - Pete on Apr 11, 10:53 PM
    1. hmm - ErickSinda on Apr 12, 7:40 AM
      1. Exactly - Linger on Apr 12, 8:50 AM
      2. How do we know what we know? - Pete on Apr 12, 10:45 AM
    2. Good afternoon - Linger on Apr 12, 10:10 AM
      1. About clarity - Occhidiangela on Apr 15, 11:54 AM
        1. Just a dinner for two - Linger on Apr 15, 12:33 PM
          1. OK, not as clear as I thought it was. - Occhi on Apr 15, 1:20 PM
            1. excuse you - Linger on Apr 15, 3:10 PM
          2. Have we forgotten our manners!? And why can't we push a rope? - KingOfPain on Apr 16, 1:27 AM
            1. Reply - Sirian on Apr 16, 3:30 AM
              1. "why are you here" - Anonymous on Apr 16, 9:46 AM
                1. Yeah - Sirian on Apr 16, 3:30 PM
                  1. What are we doin here? - Linger on Apr 16, 7:22 PM
                    1. "While I Eat Eclairs" - Sirian on Apr 17, 4:19 AM
                      1. Patients grasshopper - Linger on Apr 17, 9:23 AM
                        1. here we are. - Linger on Apr 17, 6:52 PM
                          1. Re: here we are. - Sirian on Apr 18, 12:31 AM
                            1. I disagree, as reader and writer, with a point you made - Occhi on Apr 18, 8:32 AM
                              1. Grin - Sirian on Apr 18, 5:04 PM
                            2. I disagree, as reader and writer, with a point you made - Occhi on Apr 18, 8:36 AM
                              1. I think you're both right - Pete on Apr 18, 10:42 AM
                            3. Clear and Concise - Linger on Apr 19, 9:29 AM
                      2. Knot Through My Lone Star Beer, eh? - Occhi on Apr 17, 10:57 AM
                        1. not so fast there! - Griselda on Apr 17, 1:45 PM
                          1. AH, but you see, since he had paid the rental fee - Occhi on Apr 17, 2:09 PM
                            1. ok, but - Griselda on Apr 17, 2:27 PM
                              1. No - Occhi on Apr 17, 4:08 PM
                                1. Law Jick? - Sirian on Apr 17, 5:14 PM
                                  1. Bravo!!! - Occhi on Apr 18, 5:59 AM
              2. The special case of a rope at absolute zero - Occhi on Apr 16, 9:51 AM
              3. The special case of a rope at absolute zero - Occhi on Apr 16, 9:53 AM
     
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