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June 9 2002 at 2:11 AM
Jester  (no login)
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Response to Re: I suppose I just don't see it

 
... too tired to argue. Maybe tomorrow. But I'm fairly certain you're wrong about at least one thing.

The US does not produce more rice than China. That's just not true. These stats, just pulling up the first page that seems to offer the relevant information...

Rice, Paddy, Production (Mt)

Year 2001 United States of America 9,663,560

Year 2001 China 181,514,992

Rice, Paddy, Yield (Hg/Ha)

Year 2001 United States of America 72,055

Year 2001 China 63,496

Statistics courtesy of a cursory glance at http://apps.fao.org/lim500/nph-wrap.pl?Production.Crops.Primary&Domain=SUA&servlet=1

which was linked to from... http://www.fao.org/WAICENT/FAOINFO/AGRICULT/AGP/AGPC/doc/riceinfo/database.htm

So, using my basic arithmetic skills, your "fact" about how much more rice the US produces than china is not only wrong, but it's off by a factor of SIXTY. Sorry, I don't know where you pulled that statistic, but it doesn't seem to be within several thousand miles of right. Not only does that fall apart, though, it seems that the US isn't even much more than 13% more efficient PER HECTARE. A nice sum, but hardly the 6000% you were predicting. So, uh, no offense, but you've been horribly misinformed, by a truly staggering margin.

Or, if you don't like those statistics, try...

http://www.riceweb.org/Ricetabindex.htm , notably the pages http://www.riceweb.org/riceprodleurope.htm and http://www.riceweb.org/riceprodasia.htm

They say pretty much exactly the same thing.

Or, if a pie chart is more convincing, try this.

http://www.sagevfoods.com/MainPages/Rice101/Production.htm

If it's rice EXPORTS you're talking about, then the US kicks the crap out of china, but doesn't quite manage to do half what Thailand does...

"The leading producers of rice, are (in order) China, India, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, Japan, Philippines, Brazil, and the United States."

So, uh, you're wrong. I don't know exactly what this means for your beliefs about the free market and its operations; they probably will remain unshaken, since it is likely an article of faith rather than a reasoned belief. But you at least won't get rice wrong again.

Making the world safe for Chinese rice production,

Jester

 
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  1. Amusing - Ozymandous on Jun 10, 6:43 AM
    1. That's always the rub, isn't it? - Jester on Jun 10, 12:36 PM
      1. Half-Truth - Sirian on Jun 10, 7:39 PM
        1. Apologies - Jester on Jun 10, 11:23 PM
          1. Zero Sum - Sirian on Jun 11, 8:36 AM
            1. Point to point - Jester on Jun 11, 2:57 PM
              1. Genocide my arse - Occhi on Jun 11, 4:09 PM
                1. Okay... - Jester on Jun 11, 9:17 PM
                  1. No, it isn't just semantics - Occhi on Jun 12, 7:50 AM
                    1. Revisionism - ShadowHM on Jun 12, 9:12 AM
                      1. Should be taking the cases chronologically - Pete on Jun 12, 9:52 AM
                        1. Criteria for court cases - ShadowHM on Jun 12, 10:41 AM
                          1. Is time money? - Pete on Jun 12, 5:46 PM
                            1. I admit to being torn on this one..... - ShadowHM on Jun 12, 8:20 PM
                              1. Sometimes it is better to do nothing . . . - Pete on Jun 12, 8:43 PM
                                1. Amen! (n/t) - ShadowHM on Jun 13, 10:24 AM
                      2. Why "tough to swallow?" - Occhi on Jun 13, 9:28 AM
                        1. Here's why..... - ShadowHM on Jun 13, 10:34 AM
                          1. OK - Occhi on Jun 14, 6:42 AM
                    2. Okay - Jester on Jun 12, 11:13 AM
                      1. Recent doesn't make it important - Pete on Jun 12, 5:35 PM
                        1. I remember that... - Jester on Jun 12, 10:16 PM
                          1. Ain't research fun :) - Pete on Jun 13, 2:41 PM
                      2. Well, part of what we do here on forums has to do with words - Occhi on Jun 13, 9:37 AM
                        1. A minor nit :) - Pete on Jun 13, 2:33 PM
                          1. OK, and Guinness is - Occhi on Jun 14, 6:44 AM
                            1. The nice thing about Stout is . . . - Pete on Jun 14, 7:30 PM
              2. Great writing, Jester - ShadowHM on Jun 11, 8:02 PM
                1. Sadly... - Jester on Jun 11, 9:22 PM
     
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