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Depends on era, but around 1800 . . .

November 17 2003 at 12:34 PM
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HMS Victory was a three decker (first rate) with, IIRC, 115 guns. The concept of "classes" (or standardization) was just getting started. A "standard" British ship of the line was 72 guns on two decks. I believe that was a "third rate" ship. Second rate were the bigger two deck ships and the smaller three deck ships. The French tended to cram more guns on their ship, as did the Spanish. The Dutch were about the same as the English.

The American frigates (44 guns) were a bit bigger than the norm. OTOH, I think "frigate" was more of a generic term back then and referred to a ship large enough for independent command or fleet scouting duty but not big enough to fight in the line of battle.

For more, I'll have to do some research (or find my copy of the WS&IM game. AH used to be pretty accurate


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