Who is on top?

TI
MISSION
CYA
FURY

???????

Well, where is everyone going? Coaches? Recruits? Levels? Age appropriate?

TI may have the edge.

Yes, TI has the edge and Mission has 7 bridges.

yup, a bridge per skater

colorado selects leave midwest elite

look on colorados web site they will tell you why?

Now there's a team with some hot moms. They will be sorely missed.

No more Nationals either. TI 19 now favored to win it all?

No core of 19's returning, No goaltending, No scoring, No CanAm exposure and a coach with No 19U experience let alone communication skills to represent these players to colleges. Below 500 this season at BEST !!!!!! What will happen next season for the returning Juniors with such a weak 16 program ????

the State Championship won't be a walkthrough in 2010?

By my count at least the first two offensive lines from U16 will return, plus three defensemen, plus some from CYA. Competition for the few remaining spots will be tight.

There are plenty of good goalies at this level. Will mission roster four goalies?

This group got to the finals at Nationals with balanced scoring, and no "pre-olympians". I believe this speaks to the strength of AC as a coach.

AC has plenty of college coaches in his contact list, since believe it or not, scouting is very active at U16. As for his communication skills I believe he speaks "hockey coach" and not "telemarketer".

Most of this group, whether 92 or 93, are currently sophomores. They are staying together to get the better of the two coaches for two more years. TI is a very tempting choice for any sophomore.

Who coached the mission 16s last year and how did they fare?

This is a U19 thread. TI u16 moves up to 19.

....some of them do move up as do some of the Mission 16's. As far as scouting at the 16's, last time I checked, some of the better TI 16 players had heard from few if any scouts. AC may have collegiate coaches on HIS list but more importantly, how many TI 16's are on collegiate scouts lists? It takes communication, effort, follow through and not "tele-marketing" but the knowledge of what these scouts want to see and hear. Didn't see any of that at TI in the past couple of years. TI 16's may have gotten to the National championship game "without 4 pre-olympians" but remember, you were playing 16's, not 19's......a whole new ball game. You do what's best for your daughter so if TI and AC is what's best for you, great...but don't question why some players would want to play for the Mission at the 19 level, especially 92's and 93's that are still Juniors. Playing there will get them noticed. Being in the right place at the right time (scouted venues)is key!

TI 16 got to the national championship game because they had a much easier path than most teams. As with the Polar bear, when they finally played a good team, they GOT beat.

The 92s and 93s in question are not allowed to be contacted by colleges coaches yet. They are only sophmores in high school.

Yes, you are right that coaches cannot initiate phone contacts to players until July 1st after Junior year but as of September 1st of Junior year, any player can contact a coach by email or a phone call, make unofficial visits and even get offers once on campus. Waiting until coaches can call you is WAAAAAAAY too late!

Mission got beat by polar bears.
Ti beat polar bears later in the season.
TI choked at the polar bear tournament in that game.
plus, the team they played was 17u. they had girls two years older than some (most) of the girls at TI.

I don't think I questioned why some players would want to play for the Mission 19's. If you read this bs, it sounds like it is the only choice. I simply responded to the post which is spreading mis-information about the momentum at TI and questions the ability of the individual who I believe is the better hockey coach.

The mope's comments at 3:23pm do not deserve a response.

and it's undisputable. Plus AC apparently does not understand (duh!) nor respect the good female, student athlete. Who has he helped place in a D-1 program? Nobody! If RM had not run the CYA 14's into the ground a few years ago, AC would not even have a team. CYA defections at'92 and '93 two years ago saved AC's ass, especially since only three 92's now remain from the EP coached national championship team of only two short years ago. Why? Most of the hard working players went to the Mission where they finally felt part of a progressive girl's organization. They found respect. Who has TI recruited? Nobody! Anyone with any concern for their personal development on and off the ice has left TI. One year to go and then turn out the lights. A very sad story indeed.

I thought this board was here to undermine the TI effort. It's nice to see the mission parents are just as willing to slander their own. BTW I'm sorry things didn't work out for you the way you wanted at CYA, and then TI. I'm sure it will be much different at Mission.

Nice to see the parents who feel they were underappreciated voice their displeasure. Just be careful of that grass across the fense. It isn't always as green as it seems. While you are bending over in order to smell that green stuff just make sure you stop and kiss Old Lady C's ring. She is the one who runs that whole show. By the way the moms at TI are much better looking than the hags at the Mission.

used to give the Mission Mom's a run for their money until last year...losing all those games did not help the facial lines and the losing induced binge drinking has given them all a beer belly...

Why give AC a bad rap. He is a good Hockey Coach.
Every Girls team he has coached has improved. So,
He does not cuddle parents like some coaches.
Any team that AC coaches will be respectable at any level.
If a College Coach likes a player, he will contact a coach or
e-mail a player. Do you think these College coaches don't know
that all these club coaches play up about any of there players.

Agreed. AC is a fine, proven, hard-working coach who is dedicated to developing his players and seeing his teams succeed. Not sure if these posters are concerned about not having enough quality players for next year (lots of talent is graduating from the U19 mission team) or maybe they don't like the prospect of good competition in the neighborhood.

....and lots of talent returns!

6 out of 18 players looking for a better place from TI 16's (1/3) of the team. TI 16 who played Mission 19 last year as a senior had a hard time since no colleges had any information on her ( TI 16 college communication "A Joke") TC / Mission 19's helped bring a great Div 1 opportunity. Comunication / exposure that's what's important at 19's. Most of these posts are from parents who would jump at the chance to play Mission but realize their is probably not a spot for little Amy .... Drink the cool - aid and dream some more !!!

U16 is the level most watched by college scouts

1) U16 is not the most watched by college coaches.

2) They watch the High School grade and Birth year second.

They look for there needs in certain players !

How Smart-good grades, Age- High School, needs to be filled. Talent ??

What's important at u19 (or at any other level for that matter) is to get on a team with compatible teammates and a good coach who all work together toward a common goal -- succeeding to the best of their ability as a team. If, instead, the goal of the players, coach and parents is to get scouted, that just about guarantees that the season will be an unpleasant affair, marked by selfish play, backbiting and recrimination.

Most of the girls we're talking about have already had numerous opportunities to be scouted and will continue to be scouted this coming year, whether they play on Mission or TI. Both teams promise to have solid players and respected coaches who will attract scouts. The scouts have been and will be influenced by what they see in a particular player on the ice -- that's what they are paid to do. Communication, no matter how glib, simply will not change that fact.

So, in the end, it comes down to who your daughter feels most comfortable playing with. Mine has made her choice.

There is a saying:
"If you want something done right, do it yourself"

Why are you relying on your Club Coach to PLACE your daughter and communicate on her and your behalf?

1. Scouts and College Coaches start taking NOTE of
the players at the U14 level, if they attend particular
venues, then they also get RATED.

2. It is up to your daughter to communicate to those
College Coaches, her showcase and tournament schedule
at the U16 and U19 level.

3. The College Coaches will continue to simply take NOTE
at the U16 level.

4. It is at the U19 level that their interest level
increases. It is at the U19 level that communication
between your daughter and College Coaches is the most
important (Junior and Senior Year). FYI, keep that
communication short, simple, informative, with one or
two sentences just socializing - and most important -
no more than once a month!

5. If your daughter is not attending Development Camps
or other venues (Prospects Tourney, Chowder Cup, Magog
Tournament, HNIB, etc) that have college coaches in
attendance, then it is your responsibility to tape her.

6. Realize that the College Coaches are more interested
in watching her PLAY in a showcase or a tournament than
watch her at a 1 or 2 week camp (excluding USA Hockey
National Development Camps). Obviously, if there is a
camp that has a College Coach (coaching at that camp),
your daughter is very intersted in playing for - then
she should consider attending that camp; but it wouldn't
be mandatory.

7. Attend College Night, I don't think anyone associated
with College Night or your State Hockey Association has
implied that it is up to your Club Coach to PLACE the
player. You do need a recommendation from your Club
Coach, when you submit your college application.

8. A College Coach is going to assume that a prosective
player isn't interested in playing for him/her because
she hasn't communicated with him/her - the Coach is not
going ask the question "Why hasn't the Club Coach told
me about this player".

9. Every college has a online or paper athlete
questionnaire/survey that the player can complete, which
is the first step toward communicating interest to a
College Coach.


As for the Senior from TI (07-08) that played for the Mission (08-09), the responsibility was with her and her family to get her PLACED, not her Club Coach.

Hey there Willie, watch what you are saying, I am keeping my eye on you and I have seen the TI MOMS left and its not pretty, we Mission moms rock. I don't have to take all the credit just because of my name, hot spirited and just plain hot. I agree TI is almost washed up. Maybe this year some 16's and even any 14 that played up may move up and have a solid team but with the talent moving into the Mission 16 year and then up the next year or so watch out. These girls have played together and the new ones coming on will most certainly deserve to be there. I wouldn't want my daughter by to at TI ever, CYA YEAH, but still MISSION BEATS THEM ALL, GO MISSION!

hi. can you go away. you're so annoying.

much obliged

hi. can you go away. you're so annoying.

much obliged

Sorry you are such a stick in the mud with no sense of humor, why don't you go away.

This is about hockey ... not about you. I know who you are and you are not even close to being a hot hockey mom. You wish ... along with wishing that your player had talent. Yes she plays with the Mission, but only by default. YOU know what I'm talking about. I'm sick of reading the garbage you're putting on this board. We're all sick of it. If the readers only knew what you really looked like ... you belong in a trailer park. Now that I've exposed to everyone what you really look like, can we please get back to hockey?!

Buehler? Buehler?

hey there since when has this post always been about hockey, from the looks of it much of the time is spent bashing one team or another so if you can rationalize that its about hockey then delude yourself. Also you sound like a real jerk, yes lets let everyone get back to your version of hockey so you can bring on the negative comments. Please do us all a favor and let us know how your daughter fares this weekend at tryouts, one thing is for certain if her attitude is as bad as yours she won't be making any top team.

My daughter will fare just fine at tryouts ... you should worry about your own kid. She can be replaced easily ... and you know it. This board is always about hockey related subjects and I've never knocked any player, club, or otherwise here. You're just annoying and obnoxious and the crap you write on this board has absolutely nothing to do with hockey AND you are not hot! Just because you wear shirts with little holes in them to show your cleavage doesn't make you hot. It amazes me that you set that example for your daughter. I'm sure you'll be so proud when she turns out just like you.

haven't done a thing, why would i?

There is a saying:
"If you want something done right, do it yourself"

Why are you relying on your Club Coach to PLACE your daughter and communicate on her and your behalf?

1. Scouts and College Coaches start taking NOTE of
the players at the U14 level, if they attend particular
venues, then they also get RATED.

2. It is up to your daughter to communicate to those
College Coaches, her showcase and tournament schedule
at the U16 and U19 level.

3. The College Coaches will continue to simply take NOTE
at the U16 level.

4. It is at the U19 level that their interest level
increases. It is at the U19 level that communication
between your daughter and College Coaches is the most
important (Junior and Senior Year). FYI, keep that
communication short, simple, informative, with one or
two sentences just socializing - and most important -
no more than once a month!

5. If your daughter is not attending Development Camps
or other venues (Prospects Tourney, Chowder Cup, Magog
Tournament, HNIB, etc) that have college coaches in
attendance, then it is your responsibility to tape her.

6. Realize that the College Coaches are more interested
in watching her PLAY in a showcase or a tournament than
watch her at a 1 or 2 week camp (excluding USA Hockey
National Development Camps). Obviously, if there is a
camp that has a College Coach (coaching at that camp),
your daughter is very intersted in playing for - then
she should consider attending that camp; but it wouldn't
be mandatory.

7. Attend College Night, I don't think anyone associated
with College Night or your State Hockey Association has
implied that it is up to your Club Coach to PLACE the
player. You do need a recommendation from your Club
Coach, when you submit your college application.

8. A College Coach is going to assume that a prosective
player isn't interested in playing for him/her because
she hasn't communicated with him/her - the Coach is not
going ask the question "Why hasn't the Club Coach told
me about this player".

9. Every college has a online or paper athlete
questionnaire/survey that the player can complete, which
is the first step toward communicating interest to a
College Coach.


As for the Senior from TI (07-08) that played for the Mission (08-09), the responsibility was with her and her family to get her PLACED, not her Club Coach

"the responsibility was with her and her family to get her PLACED, not her Club Coach"

I thought playing for TC was supposed to be the key to getting anywhere.

To all the misinformed...this particular player has "been placed" as you call it at a very fine institution which happens to be Colgate. The point to be made is that last year as a Junior playing 16's at TI, there was little to no guidance in regard to the entire recruiting process that the juniors at the Mission have already been very informed about and are being actively recruited, thanks to a director who is the one informing both the players/parents on how to go about the process, informing the coaches about individuals' skills, and getting back to the player/parents regarding specific things certain coaches are looking for, where they fall on thier lists, etc. None of this went on last year at TI. Yes, it is the responsiblity of the player to make the contacts and follow through but it is extremely helpful when you have an advocate in the hockey world who can help guide the players, the parents, and communicate between the player and the collegiate coach. Simple as that!

So many teams, so many places of higher learning to play the game. Everyone will find a place to play if they so desire. But the real game is $how me the money. Very few getting full rides based solely on hockey skill and/or coaches connections(sorry TI). Skill plus academics are really the keys for most players who desire to play a non-revenue producing women's sport at D-1/D-3.
Best of luck to all at tryouts.

Very happy to hear the player will be playing her chosen sport at a good college. Good for her, and thanks to the coaching at Mission who helped her. Too often people get all tangled up in silly organization loyalty, and fail to see that its the PEOPLE that make these things happen, and right now they just so happen to be employed by the Mission. They could have still been employed by TI, but that org. dropped the ball, now there at the Mission. Good for the Mission, better for the girls that make those teams that get the best (all around) coaching, on and off the ice. Good luck to your daughter!

It will be better for all the girls to the extent the other girls organization are forced to step up their coaching, development and college placement efforts.

Check out the Mission u19/u16 schedule just posted on their website. That is a pretty intense season.

Intense? I'd call it over the top. These girls had better get into the schools of their choice based on their hockey skills or their coach's salesmanship, because they'll have little time for academics or any other interests. It won't be cheap either.

sounds more expensive than a prep school.

Prep school is cheap if you have the academic and time managmement skills.

Perhaps that schedule is for both the 16's and 19's some of which they will be attending together, other tournaments may be either for just the 16's or the 19's.

The TI moms are way better looking than the hags at Mission. TI moms are even dumber than the mooses at Mission. Go TI!

Its really hard to tell the TI cows from the TI hillbilly dad's! They all need to start shaving (their back)!
Go Mission....Go Mission!!!!

clearly people forget that this is supposed to be about hockey.
at least the parents at TI know what they are talking about and don't all think their kid is the best when really she sits on the bench as third line player.

Well then, let's be clear about what's being advertised.

If you look at the proposed schedule and then figure in at least 4-5 MWEHL weekends, you're looking at at least 10 (or more) missed days of school. Figure in a possible trip to nationals and there's 4-5 more. God forbid you get sick and have to miss school due to illness. If you ask me, this is WAY too many days to have girls missing school. Too hard to catch up when you miss this much.

" the Mission U19 and U16 teams will be traveling together to several events during the course of the season . " Several events, not all events. Our experience with Mission and TI is that the majority of the players are excellent students. They utilize their time well, they have to. If you don't think your daughter will, then travel hockey is not for her. They do miss out on a lot of the social aspect of school, so that is a sacrifice.

Most athletes driven to play the highest possible level in sports at their age level are generally driven people in all aspects of their life. If you think the seniors that have college commitments from the Mission, TI, etc., got them without very good grades as well, then you are mistaken. Average girls do not play AAA hockey past the U12 level. A straight A student could easily miss 10 days of school in one year and be just fine. Do some real homework and you will find that most of the girls playing AAA are very good students as well, because they have to be.

We don't need to hear generalities about AAA players. We have years of experience with our daughters and can judge for ourselves whether grades are likely to suffer with this kind of schedule. Based on my experience, the schedule is a concern. Others will have to make their own judgments as to what's best for their kids.

You may not want to hear the generalizing, but it can be backed up with fact. If you are so concerned, quit and go play house league! The general statements made by the poster were not at all untrue, and in fact make perfect sense. If the schedule is more than your kid can handle, then so be it, but dont talk smack about the program or the schedule because of your personal concerns. These kids have been handling that schedule just fine for years. Keep your concerns to yourself.

"Based on my experience, the schedule is a concern."

If your daughter is old enough to play at the U16/U19 level, then she knows what she wants, and it's her experience, not yours. She is the one playing hockey and doing the school work.
Get over yourself, you sound like a typical overbearing whack-job hockey parent with way too much free time!

Settle down. Obviously, there's a point at which the hockey/school equilibrium can be thrown out of balance, even for highly motivated teenagers. If it's not an issue for you or your daughter, more power to you. If it's an issue for others, they should be free to discuss it.

TI moms are way hotter. I don't think any of them ever got above a "C".

The Stoney Creek is the Best women's Hockey tourney (level of play)
The Schedule is fine, if no Midwest elite games(they do not teir?)
Some of the new players might not handle that much Hockey ? Injurys
will play a part in playing 80 games ? Look at last years team at
Nationals, they were beat up and squeaked to the finals. Goaltending
will be the key for any IL teams to advance in all of the Tourneys ?

All in All, ILLINOIS does a Nice job with Girls Hockey !!

Good luck to all the Girls trying out for all teams..

Stay Healthy and enjoy it if you can, it comes to a end quicker then
you think..

Stoney Creek is the Best women's Hockey tourney (level of play)
U19 Schedule is fine, if no Midwest elite games(they do not teir?)
Some of the new players might not handle that much Hockey ? Injurys
will play a part in playing 80 games ? Look at last years team at
Nationals, they were beat up and squeaked to the finals. Goaltending
will be the key for any IL teams to advance in all of the Tourneys ?

All in All, ILLINOIS does a Nice job with Girls Hockey !!

Good luck to all the Girls trying out for all teams..

Stay Healthy and enjoy it if you can, it comes to a end quicker then
you think..

Since you brought it up, what is the goaltending situation looking like?

Here is the hard truth. I'll start by saying I know AC, and like him. I think he is a VERY good hockey coach. I also know, as someone said, he doesn't "cuddle" people. Thats true, just who he is. He would rather coach and leave. Dealing with parents and scouts is not something he enjoys or excels at. If he's being 100% honest with you, he'd tell you that himself. He does what he has to in those areas. TC on the other hand excels at 'selling' these kids to colleges. And if you really think that doesn't matter, you're being very naive. The proof that you're wrong is simply, history. If colleges just 'found' these kids, it would reason that all the coaches in this area have put many kids in school. But the facts don't bear that out. NO ONE is close to TC. Not just 1st liners, but 2nd, and 3rd. That's an undisputable fact. I don't blame anyone for choosing to play with AC. But don't blame those who choose to play for TC. Don't distort the truth. Scouts and college coaches care a great deal about the opinions of those they respect. And they respect TC.

you said it tony

OK, THIS MESSAGE IS TO WILLY AND EVERYONE ELSE, you tell me how annoying I am and then you all stir up things about the hags at Mission, I told you come and look for me at tryouts. Also you have the wrong girl whoever mentioned the tasteless wearing of shirts by the suspected hot hockey mom, wrong, wrong, wrong . I am class all the way!!!! I bet you will be at tryouts, for all of your bashing of the Mission. One intelligent comment about the upcoming schedule and players missing school. I agree that girls at the higher levels get there by being motivated kids, that drive translates to all areas of life. My daughter plans on pursuing a career which will require post-graduate education and has learned time management skills combining hockey with school, that's what defines success. being able to focus on your hockey goals and carrying that over to education and life. By the way, she gets this from her mom, take that Willy!!!!

Hey hottie,
Ive been at most of the spring skates at the Mission, (I am assuming you are there with your daughter too) and sadly, haven't seen one mom that is remotely Hot! That is not to say that the Mission/TI/Fury/CYA moms that are there are ugly, but to label yourself as Hot, sets a pretty high standard that quite frankly, I just haven't seen. I'm really nothing to look at either, old, overweight, and plain looking, but I haven't given anyone the impression that I am anything else. I would love to see a "Hot Mom" at the rink! Where are you, give us a hint, U12, U14, U16, U19, daughter is a forward, defense, goalie? Come on now, put up or shut up!

If playing for TC was all that it takes, every girl who has played for him and who he talks up would be playing D1 at the school of her choice. Don't think that's the case. The girls who made it to college did so on their talent, hard work, grades and test scores. That's the way it is and should be. A coach has nothing to do with grades and scores (except maybe in a negative way when the program over-commits to too much hockey). As to hockey, both TC and AC clearly understand how to put their players in a position to showcase their talent and work ethic.

TC will have his pick of some quality TI players at tryout #1, while AC has to wait for the Mission cuts.

Playing for TC is not all that it takes and I don't think that is what posters are trying to get across. The bottom line is that an advocate and someone who knows this entire process and has been doing it for sometime, (even with his own daughter) is a benefit during this exciting yet challenging process. It is a numbers game and unless you know how to play it, a player can easily lose out. Of course it takes talent and good grades on the part of the player but what people continually misunderstand is that it isn't known to the player where they fall on a coaches list or how interested or uninterested they really are in a player, sometimes until it is too late. Letters and emails are distributed to dozens and dozens of girls but the reality is 6,7,8 recruits per year is all they take. Knowing just how interested a school is in a player because of their skills and their academic achievements is a necessity and someone like TC who communicates with coaches and both share a mutual respect is someone who can help a player understand just how "wanted" they really are. OR......the other option is to hire a middle man at someplace like NCSA and pay thousands of dollars. There are several of the top 92's from across the country who have already committed to schools as Juniors....some of which are from right here in Chicago and have played for the Mission.

Listen Hot......What's with all the college stuff. You'd be much hotter if you couldn't speak English. Lay off the academic stuff, it's very unappealing.

Alright, so what goalies are where and who is committed already?

at mission

that's for me to know and you to find out! It is a personal decision for each individual to "announce" if and where they are committed, not information to advertise on a message board, especially this one.

I agree with the poster at (May 14 2009, 5:54 AM), and have to admit that calling yourself a "Hot Hockey Mom" is really setting yourself up for some bashing here. If you are in fact proud of your looks, then why not tell us who you are, or at least dis spell any rumors and post a picture? Having a hot mom at the rink would be a welcome sight for us average looking guys, and might even help us decide where to try out!

Half the fun is finding me, anyway I believe that my commentaries regarding hockey are noteworthy and the rest is just icing on the cake. Counting down to tryouts, I think Mission will of course be the first choice for the majority of girls and additionally TC is a professional and along with his coaches will do the best he can in selecting the girls. The ultimate goal of course is to have your daughter at the U19 level be coached by him. I have alot of respect for him and the other coaches at the Misiion. He cares about the kids, he really does. Good luck to all of the girls!!!! See you boys at tryouts!!!!

I'm quite sure once your found the party will be over........or should i say the fat lady will be singing?

blah, blah, blah, by the way the correct use of " your" should be "you're" GO MISSION

Okay, I get it. I hit a nerve about your looks, and more importantly that you will never be able to identify yourself because of your "Un Hotness". Go ahead, plenty of grammatical errors to point out!

Hottie......she/he ? who lives in glass house, shouldn't throw stones. I let it go but since you are so particular......alot is supposed to be a lot. You're welcome.

You should be "commited". Too bad the state hospital at Tinley Park is closed.
Just let the kids play a great game!

this s a general statement that can be made in any state with any program. Ultimately it is the player that gets themselves to the next level. Good Luck to all.

Hey Randy

Ease up Big Guy! This isn't about hockey. It's about the recent augmentation the moms have undergone since the state playoffs. It's time for the ladies to "Bust Out" at tryouts. Come on out Hottie.

First of all thank you for the grammatical correction, I am probably not as old as you are so I do tend to use some slang. A nerve was not hit about my looks, I can dress down or up so maybe I might be overlooked when I CHOOSE TO BE. Tomorrow is the big day, let's all look our bests because remember this is all about us, not our girls, yuck, yuck, can I say that? GO MIISSION

First of all thank you for the grammatical correction, I am probably not as old as you are so I do tend to use some slang. A nerve was not hit about my looks, I can dress down or up so maybe I might be overlooked when I CHOOSE TO BE. Tomorrow is the big day, let's all look our bests because remember this is all about us, not our girls, yuck, yuck, can I say that? GO MIISSION

Choose not to be noticed? Your definition of "Hot" is seriously flawed! Check me out at the rink, I will be the "Hot" dad disguised in the old pot bellied body in the ill fitting clothes.

I guess us old folks didn't know slang was another word for stupid.

Its been said that the mission teams top to bottom are going with 20 player rosters. To all the third liners and forth liners enjoy creating and expanding your splinter collection. Oh yea and thanks for bank rolling the team. Or maybe this way you make it easier to cruise to nationals by rostering other orgs. talent.

Expanded rosters to pay for all the freebies.

First of all, its smart to go with 18 players, 2 goalies. Last year our injuries made a dent in our ability to compete and with added girls this will guard against this happening again. Also, just because a girl is on the 3rd or 4th line doesn't mean they stink. Last year lines were pretty evenly divided wtih the stronger girls playing with those who were not necessrily at their level, ie first year. All lines were good, some just had different contributions such as speed or scoring. I know someone will make a snotty remark about my daughter being a last line player and no that wasn't the case, I still stand by my observation of how lines functioned. Why don't all of you quit your complaining and focus on your daughters game and leave the organization out of it.

Take a deep breath an settle down. First, 20 players on the Mission U12 roster will be difficult when 16-17 players (including goalies) are all that is showing up to try-outs! Second, why not wait until the teams are rostered before you start cackling like you just got the 6th seat on "The View". If the talent is there, I cant see any reason not to have 20. I, for one would have no problem with my daughter being a 3rd or 4th liner on the best team as opposed to......? If one girls organization can keep the rest from a trip to Nationals simply by taking 2 extra players on 3 teams, then what does that say about the other organizations!
Signed,
proud 4th liner

Could not make first tryout. How many goalies showed?

Where exactly is the Blanch reference coming from, I don't think I look a DAY OVER 70. Good try getting me reveal myself by sharing info on how many goalies showed, thought I missed that one huh, I am much smarter than I look!

If you're much smarter than you look, you're pretty dumb.

Why the hostility, you must be a woman who feels very threatened. Give it up and get a life or make a contribution that doesn't resort to name calling. When the majority of girls don't make the Mission, where do you think they will be going, beginning from U19, I know this is 19 thread but don't get so rigid. This question was not directed to you MISS ***.

miss ***.

There were two U12 goalies and three U16 goalies.

how about 19U -- how many showed?

Nice tryout times for the 19's TI----another example of indifference towards girl's hockey.

this is a u19 thread... no one cares about lower ages..

okay thanks.

Don't have the slightest idea. Spent time at both tryouts checking out the recent augmentations. Very nice. Keep it up girls.

If the Mission rosters more than 17 players, the fees go down for all players. They rostered 18 on a few teams last year and players' fees dropped. Please try to post accurate information.

so no one is talking about tryouts -- what's going on?

rumor has it the mission is going to roster 35 players per team it will only cost 5000 in fees go mission go mission

they still won't win nationals.

and 35 players means lots of benchwarmers! How great!

Question: If the Mission is such a terrible org. with people here saying they will have huge rosters, big fee's, never win Nationals, etc., etc., then why are all the best girls there at try outs trying to make a team? Are they all crazy? Or can we assume by the negative post's that you have already been cut from the Mission?

Not sure how you're evaluating the "best", at least at the u19 level. A more objective evaluator probably would conclude that the talent is spread around pretty evenly among the competing teams. Haven't followed what's going on at the other levels.

This is very true. I believe that ti and mission will be very close tanelt wise..

Which means that team chemistry and work ethic may be the decisive factor. Could be interesting.

what about goalies? any ideas about what's going on?

talent..



and a goalie signed at ti.

what is TANELT?

I don't know who you but that's quite a joke and a compliment at the same time for the Mission, that they would have that many girls to take. Of course they won't, the teams will have 18-20 players, that's it and from my past experience all girls were pretty evenly played which absolutely can't be said for what was done at TI.

My evaluation of the "Best" org. is as follows:
Girls get equal ice time with the boy's side.
Girls get ice slots that make sense with their age group, not whatever is left over.
Girls get independent off ice training by pro's, not coaches.
Girls get equal size locker rooms as the boy's.
Girls are treated as equal participants in the org.
Of course my comment may have been taken to mean the 4 best teams, No, just the best all around org. for any female to play at (at the moment).
I am by no means a "Mission Lover", but a supporter, yes, for the above stated reasons.
Also, Ive had a daughter in hockey for many years with experience at 3 of the 4 organizations, so I'm really just saying that right now, the Mission get's it while the other 3 are playing catch-up.

i'm sorry, but you're really dumb.

you can only have a total of 20 players, but thanks for letting us know they won't take 35. you're really helpful.

I certainly hope for your sake you ARE hot, because the really dumb post's are on my last nerve....Blondie.

apparently you're too obtuse to read the response and decipher what was being said, everyone knows you can't take 35 dumbo, the point being made was that the Mission could attract any number of girls they want, you must really be threatened to act like such a jerk

on the peroxide Blondie, it's leaked through to that cavernous cranium of yours wiping out what little neurons you were born with.

Honestly, the alleged "hot mom" said, and I quote "...that they would have that many girls to take. Of course they won't, the teams will have 18-20 players, that's it..."

I'm sorry, but if you read this, she's completely oblivious.

and why wouldn't she throw all her stripper money to the mission's fees...




awaiting my comeback...

Here's your comeback, what's with you people, you must not be able to read between the lines. Let me re-phrase my original comment for those who are so "concrete", The point is that the Mission can call the shots, they are in front of the pack. We all have kids in hockey, not just girls and the poster stating 35 was trying to stir the pot. I can tell the bunch of you are not going to be on the Mission and thank God for that, we won't have to deal with such pettiness. You still have the wrong girl, no bleached blonde here and no stripper pole although I hear it's a great workout.

Let's talk about tryouts and not about moms and how everyone who's played or is playing on mission thinks it's super great.

Shall we?

despite the feuding organizations and bickering parents, the system appears to be working in the best interest of illinois girls hockey. no team at the u19 level will be a lock. there'll be good, intense competition within illinois, and illinois teams should be competitive nationally.

Nice augmentations last night.

eh?

How many players will TI lose to Mission?
How many players will Mission lose to TI?
Thanks.

define "lose"

it's not a loss if you don't want the mission players..

The Mission picked up the three best players from the TI program. How could TI be so stupid to let these three superstars go? By the end of the year, maybe even holiday time, the two skaters Mission picked up will be first line with KC. The most important thing to remember is there likely will be more shared ice time with these two superstar skaters. Go Mission.

thanks for the kind words, dad

are these 16's that are moving up?

Loyalty at TI is a one way, dead end street.

Just curious, dad...who are the three best players/skating superstars you speak of?

All the superstars left TI years ago.

and went to college.

does anyone have pre-rosters with people who signed where?

Nope....they went to the mission and out East. TI has lost so many players because of the coaching---or lack thereof.

I would have to agree with the Mission father in the previous quote. There aren't any players left at TI. Not even one single good player let alone great player. The best TI has to offer left this spring to play at Mission. Mission is a true top notch team while TI is nothing more than an average club team. Go Mission.

The only players from TI who could make Mission's team did. Enough said.

There are great players on both teams. Why is that a negative?

I agree with the above post. There are some very good 92s still left at TI.

...None of which have ever played U19. That will be the difference.

Yes, that is true, but that is the way things work. You start as a U10, then U12, U14, U16 and finally U19. Many fine Mission players haven't played U19 either because they were U16's. I've often felt my daughter was not ready to jump up to the next age group but somehow she always was. Just because somebody is on Mission or TI doesn't make them more or less ready to jump to the next level. Time will tell but won't it be more fun if they're good competition for each other ? We'll have to see how the team dynamics play out. Good luck to both teams.

"Time will tell but won't it be more fun if they're good competition for each other ?"

House League, Single "A", and maybe High School, Yes. NOT at AAA. That may be the way the people at TI think, and probably that is why they made sure the Mission could not field more than one team at any level this year, but make no mistake, TI only prolonged the inevitable and probably fueled the Mission, and the girls that would have played on a second team to make sure it happens soon! The amount of time and commitment it takes to play at the AAA level, AND be successful, repeat: AND BE SUCCESSFUL, is staggering for any young athlete. The girls and parents at the Mission want Illinois to be respected as a premier place to play AAA hockey where our teams can travel anywhere in the United States and Canada and compete on their level, and win! That wont happen with one good organization, and 3 other watered down ones! Ever wonder why Assabet Valley girls organization wins so many National titles every year? Why they have the most teams in the finals every year? They field 2 and sometimes 3 teams at every level which gives the girls on the bubble incentive AND competition to make it to the top team the next year.
I for one, would like to see Illinois viewed as more than a "One hit wonder" by the other top organizations around the world. The Mission has made a great start, but it will be a long road with many bumps. Go Mission!

Willy, is a TI parent trying to fan the flames by talking trash. Simply read his previous posts and you'll see where his loyalties lie. He is definitely not a Mission parent. TI can come on here and make all the claims they want. But the better team will be determined on the ice, not on this message board. TI has set itself up for tons of smack, should the teams not be "equal". lol I'm looking forward to the action, pretty confident in how it'll all work out. Good Luck all. And Willy, shut your mouth.

We are talking about two different things. You are talking about the organizations and I am talking about the players. I agree that Mission is really putting a lot of effort in building and nurturing the girls program. TI has done nothing. TI, as we knew it, It will come to an end soon but for now they still have quality players on the U 19 team. I don't know anything about any of the other TI teams but assume people would go as a last resort.

Today Illinois, tomorrow the World. GO MISSION

I remember when I used to think that TI WAS THE PLACE TO GO, when my daughter played there they were considered tops. Now it is a last resort team and that's too bad. While there are some good players left at the U19 level, for the most part it's not anything special to play there. The Mission is headed in the right direction and I am proud my daughter will represent them. All the girls that came to tryouts looked great and unfortunatley you can't pick them all. Rosters are decided for I believe U14, 16, 19, maybe a couple of spots left at U12, not sure. The coaches made a real effort to pick the kids they thought would be best for this season and I have to say they really have heart when it comes to how hard that process is. It was done in a professional manner and with understanding of how the girls that weren't picked feel. GO MISSION!

What does it matter if the players on TI haven't played U19, but half of the Mission U19's haven't played U19 either. TI has a real coach, that knows hockey, and players that can and will succeed at the level. The Mission also has players that can and will succeed at the U19 level also. The teams will be close talent wise, just have to see who wants it more.

Mission and TI are pretty equal, besides price.

A whole 4people left ti to play mission.
1 is a brat.
1 is lazy with horrid grades
1 is lesbian
and 1 is 15.

I think I may have to report your post as "inappropriate". Either you are a player with a bad attitude and that would make sense considering the content of your message, you sound like a spoiled child. Then again, you could be the parent of an incredibly poorly mannered child and then it would make sense since this would be an inherited trait. Sounds like you need to get to the gym and concentrate on yourself and that belly before resorting to name calling. Have a super day!!!

At least a dozen good to great hockey players (also good kids/students) have left TI in two short years----since the national championship season. WHY?

wow your post was incredibly rude. I think I can maybe place one of the 4 TI girls in one of those categories, and that is the 15 year old

A team takes on a coaches personality !!! T.I = Big Trouble

To the parent who is HHM and the one who is critizing Willy. Please go back to the fourth grade and bone up on your english. You embarass yourself constantly with your mindless jabbering. Not only are you a functional moron, you are wrong about Willy.

who or what is grammer?

Grammer - as in Kelsey Grammer!

OR

Grammar - as in the branch of linguistics that deals with syntax and morphology (and sometimes also deals with semantics)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - Definition in context

What's Worse THE GRAMMAR OR THE SPELLING??

Oh please, just because I had some typos you get all worked up. The point is the post WAS INCREDIBLY RUDE, when you criticize individual players and say the things you said, especially the gay comment then that is totally uncalled for and if the only thing you find is to make a comment on my endless prattling then I guess I made my point didn't I? Stick to comments about the teams in general but stay away from personal attacks. As a mother I would never say anything like that about someone's daughter and hopefully the mother's out there agree regardless of the team their daughter is on. PUT A CORK IN IT FOR GOD'S SAKE.

I've heard about complete-hockey from other parents and had to see it for myself.

Based on the posts here and in the other "threads", most of you represent EVERYTHING that is wrong with youth sports today and should be ashamed of yourself. Anon posts give you all the courage to make complete idiots out of yourselves and to read a post that is full of hate and accuses specific girls of being this or that serves as a reminder that there are a bunch of parents that are WAY TOO INVOLVED in their kids hockey experience.

I can't for the life of me understand why Larry continues to support this board.

Thanks for the post but in truth I don't think this is your visit but it doesn't matter. This board should be for sharing information, not personal attacks on the kids. Willy or whomever you are that was totally unacceptable behavior and I hope that none of the girls has read your garbage. Is there any way that it can be deleted, help me out with this one, Thanks

Hot Mom, you are correct in saying that this a posting board created to exchange information. IF PEOPLE CANT TAKe HEAT, GET OUT THE KITCHEN.
I mean c'mon, everyone, lightn up. This is still Amerikka so we can take advantage of free speech. Dont like free speech? then you are a bunch of fascist nazis.
As long as there is no slander going on, take it with a grain of salt. Unless you are so insecure that you cannot take any form of criticism; pop another zantax or mothers little helper to help you cope.
This board is entertainment.

Finally someone who understands what this board is for. Entertainment. I do agree some of the things can be over the top, such as the one post critisizing the four kids who went to the Mission, but most of this stuff is for fun. Enjoy.

Exactly, if we all just let that disgraceful post go, and others that will come, the poster will not get the satisfaction they want.

OK I thought I had you guys fooled but your are much smarter than I give you credit for to see that my initials stand for yes you guessed it HOT HOCKEY MOM. I agree this post is entertaining, I go on it when I'm bored at work. But don't ever post anything like that about the girls or HOT HOCKEY MOM will take her stiletto's to your flabby rear end.

HHM, you make it tempting.......

I agree, but have two questions..

What is the going rate this fall for a hockey mom hummer?
and....

How many times can I post this before i get banned from this "site"? (again)

lets count...

TI posted their rosters today.

three goalies to replace the two excellent ones they lost?

They are going to have a rough time fielding a U14 next year with just 5 1996s on the roster.

Typo... A.S. is a Forward.

They only lost one goalie...

The two rostered goalies from last season's 16 team are obviously gone. Spin it anyway you want. This team will struggle without them.

...or succeed.

Great groups at ti & mission!
Good luck this season ladies!

...and CYA

It's really all about the parents, the size of the roster, and individual playing time. First liners at TI, third liners at the Mission. The result will be second at State and watching Nationals via the webcast. Good luck.

you people are flippin morons. let the girls play the games.

Anyone want to post the Fury U-19 roster since they have failed to do so?

they have a team?

As far as I know they were putting one together from tier 2 players, and handfull of AAA girls. They have not listed a roster. All the other teams have so why are they special. Looking for fury U-19 roster.

Fury 19U is still seeking players. Last I heard, they had the minimum required to have a team. That's probably why the roster isn't up yet.

but isn't the rink owners daughter playing U19 mission?
isn't everyone?

AC reportedly also coaching the Charger MM's. Looks like it's all over but the memories for the TI girl's program.

Bruins tryouts start Saturday, August 15th, check the website for details.

U12
U14
U19

Where are all the IL D? Is it true 5 of the 6 Mission 19 D are from out-of-state?

No that is not true. I know at least three of them are local.

The Mission dream team is on it's way home
after two losses out of 4 games. Team IL
3 wins and a Tie. Knocking out the host Stoney Creek.
TI Playing in the Semis Sunday morning ?

what happened in that last game? Is the scoresheet right -- 4 goals on 15 shots?

Sounds like a rough game for the defensive end of the "Mission dream team?"

It was a quarter final that TI played vs. Toronto, not a semi and it looks like another solid win for the Canadian team with 4 Canadian National U18 players on it. Not an easy team to beat but don't go dissing the Mission for thier loss as it looks as though they kept the Aeros shots to 15.

Results show that Mission probobly had the toughter bracket. London and Toronto made it to semi's. None of TI's first round opponents made it past the first round going 1-2, 0-3 and 1-2. Lucked out getting to play Stoney Creek to get to the quarters, who isn't the team it was last year by a long shot.

No need to diss either team. They both played well against tough teams (at least until they faced a clearly superior Toronto team) and were able to showcase their players for the many scouts who attended. All the girls should be congratulated.

Maybe the parent who wrote the first Results post was one of the Mission parents rooting against the TI kids this past weekend. Nice.

I never write on this board but do check in once a week for entertainment. However, I couldn't let what you wrote go. As far as rooting for the other team I saw several Mission parents and kids clapping when T.I. scored against Stoney Creek and not one cheered when they got scored against. On the other hand when Toronto scored their first goal against the Mission, I saw several girls along the glass clapping and cheering. If that wasn't bad enough, the parents upstairs were doing the same. Totally classless. Cachey would never have allowed it. I am sure Andy would encourage it. Again, classless.

Fact of the matter is that there are parents and players on both teams who root against the other team. That's to be expected when teams are rivals. While I personally didn't observe any of that behavior, TI's reaction probably was in response to the hope expressed by some Mission backers that TI would not do well at Stoney Creek.

I used to be a more frequent poster but modeling takes up much of my time now BUT I COULDN'T AGREE MORE with the behavior of the Mission girls, very classy just what I would hope all girls would emulate. I am proud of those girls and hope the younger girls on all teams, and especially our mission see this and do the same. GO MISSION

Great for the Mission girls, they are a great representation of their organization and their families, but not of TC. He has fooled too many players and families for too many years. He is not what he makes himself out to be, he's a true salesman. His drive for scholarships and victories is for his own ego, not for the girls involved. My daughter played for TC, what he says and does are complete opposites, its quite clear he doesnt know his hockey and talks a big game with scouts. But regardless, Mission vs. TI will be a great day, about time the State has true competition, best of luck to all, and represent IL well regardless which side we are on, its best for our kids and the sport.

Who are you kidding? TC over AC any day. Mission by seven. TI sucks.

Let's see if I understand what you are saying. I own a business and the way I qualify success is increased revenue and excellence in my employees. So we know we have the revenue thing covered as evidenced by the number of girls who came out at all levels to pre-tryout and at tryouts. Next, among these girls the 'most' qualified were selected, that would cover the excellence part. As far as TC is concerned I think I am pretty good at identifying attributes someone possesses in order to get the job done. Yes, maybe he has an ego, who cares, most CEO'S or anyone at the top of their game has one, myself included. That's part of the personality of someone who chooses to be in a position of leadership. I respect TC and I think he sets the bar high for the girls. If they, including my daughter, don't meet the bar or exceed it then they don't deserve to get a scholarship or be on the team and get the play time, etc. He is a straight shooter and even if my daughter had not made the team she has skated for him and respects him and I do too. If TC wasn't leading at the Mission then the program would not be what it is. Furthermore, look at the stats, he accomplished in a very short time an incredible amount. He assembled the talent, skaters and coaches and is very hands on at all levels, That's how I run my business and his formula is very similar. SOUNDS LIKE you have a gripe with him on a personal level, maybe your daughter really wanted to be part of the Mission and wasn't accepted. That's life but making such negative statements about someone like you did usually means it's personal. I do agree, good luck to all girls in Illinois hockey.

without kendall hes nothing

Right, we all know and love KC but I bet she would be the first one to say that no team is or should ever be dependent on one or two players. BTW I wrote the previous post and I stand by it.

saying tc is like a ceo is very funny hes more like a shift manager at mcdonalds who looted workers from wendys and burger king iknow my kids would rather go to gibsons =t.i. or cya where the food doesnt have an ego

Give those workers some credit, no one can "loot" anyone unless they want to be "looted" and the loot they are receiving is great coaching and the know how it takes to run an organization. If you think ego is a limited commodity then you'd better open your eyes. Ego isn't a bad thing to have, as I said I have one and it doesn't mean I look down on anyone, I just recognize what I've been able to accomplish with drive, some natural talent and perseverance. So your daughter didn't make Mission, big deal, support her where she is without tearing down the competition.

All of you knocking TC have obviously spent time thinking about this, however I don't see any other girl's H.D. getting the flack TC is, which speaks volumes in of itself! My daughter is at the Mission because of, and ONLY because of TC. If he quits, or gets replaced, we will take a hard look at the org. before staying, and of course follow him if he goes elsewhere. Say what you will about that, but the bottom line for me is he has, is and continues to produce better than anyone else.......not even a close race now. I haven't seen the "Ego" your talking about, not that it does not exist, but I have not seen it. As far as what he has done for his players, put up the numbers for all 4 girls AAA H.D.'s and then we can judge! I suspect nobody has done that yet because we all know what it will show. I only wonder why all you people aren't steering your anger towards the idiots at T.I. that ran the girl's program into the ground?

who won