aging out in the NAHL Where are they headed?April 16 2011 at 1:44 PM
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So after years playing juniors in the NAHL with their classmates headed to their senior years of college, where are these NAHLers headed? College commitments?
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|April 17 2011, 3:14 PM |
Jimmy Perkins Bethel University (F)
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|April 17 2011, 5:31 PM |
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|April 17 2011, 5:35 PM |
None of them are really going anywhere. They are all 20-21 with no true college team that wants them. What a waste of time, they all should of just gone to college out of high school.
Perkins to Bethel? That should work out just GREAT! A BIBLE school with a player from a criminal family. I really question if Bethel would take him, and I REALLY QUESTION if he can play in the MIAC. He couldn't even contribute in the NAHL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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|April 17 2011, 8:30 PM |
Jrs are not a waste of time - those kids can all still go to college and be more mature when the get there -
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|April 17 2011, 8:39 PM |
your name aint on da list. you forgot about the manicotti kid!!
different viewNo score for this post
|April 18 2011, 5:34 AM |
Perhaps, it could work out well for the parents as well as the kids. I agree they are getting a later start at school, but is also gives the parents 3 more years to accrue funds to help the kid with his tuition bills. Just a thought.
get a jobNo score for this post
|April 18 2011, 6:52 AM |
I don't think now is a great time to get a job. So the ones who're graduating get to sleep in a basement.
Top students? Top players? Where do they go from here?No score for this post
|April 18 2011, 7:49 AM |
Sure they all "can" go to college but the reality of NAHL is that it isn't the gateway to college hockey, and the colleges that these players, for the most part, will attend are non-scholarship schools. Also, these players were playing in a league where fees are paid for housing etc. and to think their parents were stocking up cash for college for those three years is in most cases not reality.
Looking at the list it would be surprising if many could get into many D3 schools like the mini-ivys or the private liberal arts schools. Again, this is college being discussed not a pure hockey situation like they have lived in for two or three years.
Wondering how many of the parents of these players truly pushed education in high school? How many thought they would be playing college hockey and not paying for it? How many thought their years of AAA, and paid juniors would pay off in college money based on hockey?
Reality is that these players may attend college but they also in all reality will be faced with totally different choices of schools and degrees than their counterparts who truly set education as their "goal" not only for playing hockey but for life.
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|April 18 2011, 1:06 PM |
There are some JR programs who push the eduacation part of their programs first, not hockey. And although their teams don't take first in their divisions, or win championships, these programs move players into the upper levels, and into college programs where they do get educational scholarships and play highly competitive hockey as well. If you're looking at programs who talk hockey first and education 2nd, forget it. Check track records, and get references, and if there are none, you know it's all about hockey, and not education, with hockey included.
Look hard, there out there in the most unlikely hockey beds. Do your homework!
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|April 19 2011, 9:18 AM |
Do your homework? Look at junior situation, most of these players have played for more than one team, have been dismissed from USHL rosters or drafted and released from that league. There really is no "Choice" in the NAHL situation. Theses players did not "pick" their junior team but went from tryout to tryout to get on a team. Looking at the list many have played for multiple teams, some were part of the pay-to-play scheme of Perkins. Most NAHLers have no "choice" in who they play for, even in the USHL top players are drafted and really have no choice in the teams they play for, so to say do your homework is not realistic.
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|April 19 2011, 10:40 PM |
you sound like a disgruntled player/parent with some built up animosity for something that you have no influence or control over. I am sure each and everyone of these kids is happy they played juniors and went through the experience that comes with it. There is no sense is bashing them for making a personal choice to play until aging out, instead of jumping into their education right away. At what other age could you have the unique opportunity to live the junior lifestyle? I am more than sure if you sit down with most of these guys they will give it to you straight, most of them know they are not going D1 and are not going to the NHL.Its been a roller coaster ride for a lot of them and having the opportunity to continue playing at the D3 level is good to see and it is definitely respectable that they have stayed persistent. Especially at 20-21 years when there are plenty of other satisfying extra-curricular options available.
Couldnt agree moreNo score for this post
|April 21 2011, 3:57 AM |
We have a tendered NAHL-er who is trying to make the jump to USHL. It's been a roller coaster and still is. He was never a spotlight player on the early radar of any scout or organization. But he's worked hard, developed steadily and never quit or listened to negative people. He may never make the U or get a scholarship anywhere, but he loves the game and will keep playing somewhere, forever. We've never counted on him "making it" just so we don't have to pay for school. We support his hockey career because he's grown and matured thorugh the experience and we all love the sport. It's his passion. He can go to school as a 20-year old, and will be prepared for all the pressure and challenges that other kids are just learning how to handle. He still has dream of Jr. A Tier 1 and I would never take that away from him.
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|April 21 2011, 4:17 AM |
ditto - this is the only time in their life they can play Jrs if they have the talent and desire to play - let them keep playing. It does not have to or need to end in a d1 scholarship
They can go to college when they are ready
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|April 21 2011, 4:43 AM |
Agree. My sons college is paid for. I don't care if he gets a scholarship or not. I think that it's nuts to run out a go to college right out of high school when you can still chase the dream. It's the only time in his life the he has the oppurtunity to do this. Why waste it. When he's 20 and aged out then he can go to school. The way I look at it by then he will have figured out how to really score with those hot freshmen. I think I'm doing my son and those women a favor. Game on.
let the kid playNo score for this post
|April 21 2011, 5:33 AM |
To listen to some of this bull$hit some parents write is sickening.
Like if the kid age's out of the NA and has to go to school as a
student and not a player they have did something wrong? For the most
part there are ZERO jobs in the market, so whats the hurry ?
I know of one kid who went the OHL route and didnt advance from there.
3 years in the OHL and they recieved about $36,000 total for school.
Along the way he had a great time playing in front of great crowds
in Londan and other hockey hotbeds ( Pro Style).THE young man ended up
at ASU, then the fun started. The above poster was correct, he is doing just
fine telling those hot AZ freshmen girls about his NHL days ( LOL )
they dont any better. He's tagging a new hottie very week. God has
blessed some of those aged out players because they are thee PLAYERS
at school now!!
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|April 21 2011, 7:53 AM |
Wow, interesting perspectives. As for the job market, the kids with grades and experience are getting jobs. But if your goal for your stud in college is "scoring" guess best to sit out and go after what is your dream. Deluted. Enjoy "stud's" success; hope for no STDs rather than high GPAs?
wowNo score for this post
|April 21 2011, 9:44 AM |
learn how to spell before you spew all that chatter..must be that ASU edgumication
True DatNo score for this post
|April 21 2011, 7:46 AM |
Finally, someone has it all figured out!
"the dream"?No score for this post
|April 21 2011, 11:52 AM |
So what is the "dream" when you are playing in the NAHL after being cut, released, and gone from team to team and now aging out. What is the Dream of the NAHL
Dream?No score for this post
|April 21 2011, 5:00 PM |
Why do you care so much about everyone else's hockey dream? Did you have ever have dreams? goals? How far were you willing to work in order to reach those dreams? As long as these player's have a shot at playing college hockey (D1 2 or 3) why shouldn't they keep working hard for it? Because you say so....In the end they will still get thier education as that is also a huge part of the goal. There is no loss there! BTW a large number of junior players don't get thier college commitments until their last year anyway. That is, if they didn't already come into juniors with one, or they are playing for Team USA! Back off! Nothing wrong with dreaming, that is what life is all about setting goals and trying to reach them. It would really be something if all the greatest inventors, professors, scienctist, athletes, and so on (you get my point) stopped dreaming! As Steven Tyler says "Dream on Dream on Dream until your dreams come true!
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|April 21 2011, 10:50 PM |
My comment might be childish, but honestly what is the hurry to grow up and get a real job and an ordinary life? Seriously everyone on this board is just a clone working for a living to pay bills and put food on the table. A few young men decided take a different path thinking something might happen and will not have to be like everyone else. If it doesn't work oh well at least you can say you tried and big deal you start college at 20 years old. How many kids drop or fail out and come back to finish. According to the Princeton Review "The average american student graduates at 23.6 years old." This board sounds like a bunch of haters that did not pursue their dreams and settled for something else that their probably not happy with.
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|May 7 2011, 10:08 AM |
So for most in the NAHL the season has ended, where are all these '90s headed? Colleges. Please update.
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|May 9 2011, 6:07 AM |
L Educate is going to Nichol College in Boston.
Small D3 school...Great School with a awesome hockey program. Great allumni support.
Good fit for him!!
|Former NAHL Coach|
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|July 26 2011, 8:23 PM |
Perkins is TERRIBLE, always has been, and he is becoming as bad a person as his dad. He won't last at Bethel on or off the ice even though they are a bad D-3 Team. I am sure his LOSER, I mean dad, posted the update.
How did they doNo score for this post
|February 28 2012, 1:08 PM |
Look at the MIAC Stats. Instead of having an opinion on what you think is true find out facts. I Didnt know the Perkins Kid but it seems as he had a pretty good season as a freshmen. John Heag and Chris Cass had good seasons as well. It seems all of these players have the skill to play in the MIAC.
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THANKSNo score for this post
|February 29 2012, 2:09 PM |
THANKS Jim Perkins Sr. PLEASE GO AWAY!
Juniors are the place to go...No score for this post
|July 26 2011, 9:59 AM |
I went through the National Development Camp, and then to Jr's at Guelph in Canada. I just did the Minnesota Wild prospect camp and play in the AHL. Things can happen if you aim for your goal. So you can't go wrong there. Junior hockey is where you develop the best. Especially with so much talent competing for the next level.
NAHL placements 2012 versionNo score for this post
|March 20 2012, 4:19 PM |
Time to list all the '91s who continue to play in NAHL and where they have committed? List is pretty short.
from NAHL siteNo score for this post
|March 20 2012, 4:26 PM |
And he actually left NAHL for USHL.
University of Massachusetts-Lowell (Hockey East, D1)
check out Chicago's own aging out Cody Walsh in Youtube videoNo score for this post
|March 23 2012, 1:47 PM |
Wow says it all!!! watch him load his cheek!!!
So.........No score for this post
|March 23 2012, 3:33 PM |
It is actually a good vid. These are NA guys?
Re: So.........No score for this post
|March 26 2012, 8:33 AM |
Check back with "Marky Mark" in five years and he will be living the dream of flipping burgers for a living.
Should have put your energy into college.
negativeNo score for this post
|March 30 2012, 8:29 AM |
last time I checked you cant age out going to college.
Reading is a skillNo score for this post
|April 1 2012, 11:24 AM |
where was aging out of college ever addressed? However,you do age out of juniors
So is comprehensionNo score for this post
|April 1 2012, 2:13 PM |
You can go to College at ANY age. Hence, you can't age out of college.
Re: So is comprehensionNo score for this post
|April 2 2012, 8:41 PM |
who are you responding to, nobody is talking about aging out of college. Its aging out of the NAHL! I believe anybody that visits this website knows that you cannot age out of college.
ACT LIKE A FCKN PARENT FOR A CHANGENo score for this post
|April 9 2012, 3:37 PM |
Its amazing, why not have your kid do volunteer work or internships that lead to a JOB instead of paying ridiculous fees so they can skate and post pics on Facebook. . Join a club college team. Some parents should NOT BE PARENTS
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|May 4 2012, 11:07 AM |
there has to be some reasonable middle ground on this ridiculous subject....while most main stream parents look at junior hockey parents as quixotic, i dont understand the absolute rage coming from the people criticizing the junior hockey option.....there is no rush to college or the job market....41% of 25 to 29 year olds live with their parents anyway....and that is a documented fact. why not play an extra year or two of hockey before heading to school, regardless of compensation...and as for the suggestion of heading directly to school and playing club, good luck making a D1 club roster out of high school. about 80% of D1 rosters are filled with 20-21 year old freshman who played juniors. the youngest player on ohio's club team was 21 this past year...my kid, for amusement tried out and made 3 different junior teams out of high school, but wanted the "normal" college experience and instead played d1 club hockey. he graduated in 4 years with honors, took about 2 years to grow into club hockey and now would like an extra year of his youth after finding out the job market for 22 year olds is pretty unfriendly...now i personally think aging out in juniors is a little out there....but why would i get nasty about it?
CuriousNo score for this post
|May 5 2012, 2:52 PM |
In what league did he make 3 junior teams?
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|September 9 2012, 2:35 PM |
So my son plays jr jockey instead of going to college. End of the world. Turned down 3 academic scholarships to do it. So he'll get a college hockey gig or he won't. I wasn't within a hundred miles of a college academic or hockey scholarship when I was 18 but my uncle Sam had some ideas for me. Two years worth. About the same amount of time my son will play juniors. I was ten times the student at 20 I would have been at 18 because of maturity and focus. I was there for a purpose not because it was the next thing to do. Worst case, my son does the same thing. Oh. I ended up with three academic degrees including a doctorate. He'll do at least the same after he chases the dream he's earned the right to chase.
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