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February 17 2006 at 9:57 AM
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GDP (nacionalni dohodak po stanovniku u $ US )
Clanovi Evropske Unije:
Italija - $ 28 000
Njemacka - $ 29 000
Francuska - $ 29 700
Spanjolska - $ 25 100

Najnoviji clanovi Evropske Unije:
Ceska - $ 18 000
Madzarska - $ 15 900
Poljska - $ 12 700

Balkanske zemlje:
Slovenija - $ 20 900
Hrvatska - $ 11 000
Srbija&Crna Gora - $ 2 600
BiH - $ 6 800
Makedonija - $ 7 400
Bugarska - $ 9 000

 
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February 17 2006, 10:35 AM 

Karla aj setaj malo duseti ! Mici vise te gluposti odole ,aj ti lagano na talijanske forume i tamo ispravljaj krivu drinu ,tamo dje se trazi velja italija ,tamo dje se trazi da na silu otmu istru od Rvacke itd itd ! AJ MRS !

 
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February 17 2006, 10:41 AM 

Mafia 'gripping Italian economy'



The Italian Mafia allegedly controls one in five businesses

Organised crime controls one business in five in Italy, according to statistics released by the country's leading trade association.
A conference organised by the association in Milan said that the Mafia controlled about 20% of all businesses.

It also had an annual turnover of about $133bn, the equivalent of 15% of GNP.



These businessmen talk a lot at conferences but not to the Prosecutor's Office

Milan chief prosecutor
A conference document said that counterfeiting also accounted for a large slice of Italian industrial production.

Only Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand and China reportedly earned more from illegally copying well-known internationally-branded products.

It said Mafia profits were being invested in real estate, clinics and retirement homes, supermarkets, hotels and restaurants.

And the fortunes made in these businesses would be "enough to pay off public debt, the ball and chain around Europe's ankle", the document added.

International failure

Sergio Bille, the president of Italy's business association, said not enough was being done internationally to combat organised crime.

The Mafia empire
20% of Italian businesses
15% of GNP
Combined capital of $800bn
More than $11bn investment in real estate
More than $11bn in financial investment
$15.5bn profits from counterfeiting and black market
And out of a combined capital of more than $800bn only 7% has been frozen and 3% actually confiscated, he was quoted as saying.

A senior police official said that countries which permitted offshore banking were to blame for the growth in criminal activities.

Scepticism

But Milan chief prosecutor Gerardo d'Ambrosio expressed scepticism about the allegations made at the conference.

"In order to beat the Mafia, we need the co-operation of businessmen, and they don't always give us concrete facts upon which we can act," he said.

"I haven't had a single complaint since I took up my post here - these businessmen talk a lot at conferences but not to the Prosecutor's Office."

The Mafia is notorious for gaining control of institutions by using a mixture of bribery and fear, and then murdering those that cross them.



Prosecutor Giovanni Falcone was murdered in 1992

Both anti-Mafia judge Paolo Borsellino and then top anti-Mafia prosecutor, Giovanni Falcone, were murderedd in 1992.

Justice eventually caught up with seven leading members of the Italian Mafia who were sentenced to life imprisonment in 1999 for their part in the murder of Borsellino.

Those convicted included the former godfather of the Sicilian Mafia, Salvatore Riina, known as The Beast, who is already serving several life sentences for other crimes.


 
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February 17 2006, 10:50 AM 

Sicilians dish up anti-Mafia pasta


The farmers hope to sell their pasta abroad

A group of Sicilian farmers dedicated to battling Italy's Mafia is about to produce its first "anti-Mafia pasta" made from wheat grown on land confiscated from the mob.
Italy adopted laws allowing authorities to seize property and assets from the Mafia in 1982.



More than outright threats from the Mafia we had to overcome people's reluctance to have anything to do with land that was seized from Riina

Gianluca Faraone, president of the Libera Terra farmers
Libera - a group of anti-Mafia organisations and school - then pressured the government into allowing seized land to be put to use.

In 1995 they got their wish and now the farmers, calling themselves Libera Terra - or Free Land - have been growing wheat on land taken from former Mafia "boss of bosses", Toto Riina.

Libera Terra are hoping to sell their anti-Mafia pasta both at home and abroad under the brand name Libera.

"We have finally overcome all of the problems, we have won the support of neighbours, and we hope to have our anti-Mafia pasta on the shelves in August," Gianluca Faraone, president of the Libera Terra farmers, told Reuters news agency on Monday.


Riina is now in jail


Until his arrest in 1993 Salvatore "Toto" Riina was a leading Mafia don.

He is now serving multiple life sentences for a number of crimes, including ordering the car-bombings that killed anti-Mob magistrates Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino.

Riina's assets, including a country villa and estate were eventually seized.

The villa has been turned into a country hotel and the estate into the farming co-operative.

And Terra Libera's work does not stop there - they also produce olive oil on an estate which belonged to Bernardo Provenzano, a leading Mafia boss who has been on the run for almost 40 years.

But the change of ownership has not been without problems as locals, fearful of Mafia retribution, were unwilling to have anything to do with the group or the seized land.

"More than outright threats from the Mafia we had to overcome people's reluctance to have anything to do with land that was seized from Riina," Mr Faraone explained.

"But we've finally won their confidence and we're producing," he added.


 
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February 17 2006, 10:59 AM 

Stovani Cetinjanine,
Necu ja se baviti uticajem mafije na gospodarstva EU ili balkanskih zemljama. Toga ima svugdje. Ti to dobro znas.
Necu ja raspravljati o politickom statusu Istre posto to pitanje u ujedinjenoj Evropi je sasvim irelevantno.

Uvjerena sam sto vasa prilagodba evropskim civilizacijskim/drustvenim/politickim/pravosudnim modelima sigurno ce doprinjeti vasem gospodarskom napretku.

Gospodarski napredak post-sovjetskih drzava nakon dobijanja punog clanstva EU je tome najbolji dokaz.


 
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February 17 2006, 11:18 AM 

Ne karlita ti ces se baviti blacenjem balkanskoga naroda i pljuvanjem na njinu iljadugodisnju istoriju ,aj sad stvarno MRSSSSSSSSSSS!

 
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February 17 2006, 11:54 AM 

ITALIAN FASCISTS TAKEN ABACK

Italian authorities in Kosovo seemed a bit distressed by the terror against Serbs and occasionally intervened to prevent Albanian attacks, at least in urban areas. Thus a Serbian historian wrote: "Italian troops were stationed in the towns of Kosovo and acted as a restraining force ..."(5) And Carlo Umilta, a civilian aide to the Commander of the Italian occupation forces, described several instances where Italian forces fired on Albanians to halt massacres of Serbs.6)

Because of manpower limitations and the de facto alliance between Albanians and the Axis powers, these efforts at restraint were limited. Nevertheless, the Italian occupiers reported their disgust at Albanians’ actions to the authorities in Rome. The Italian army reported that Albanians were "hunting down Serbs", and that the "Serbian minority are living in conditions that are truly disgraceful, constantly harassed by the brutality of the Albanians, who are whipping up racial hatred."(7) Carlo Umilta described some of the atrocities in his memoirs and observed that "the Albanians are out to exterminate the Slavs."(8) His words were echoed by those of German diplomat Hermann Neubacher, the Third Reich’s representative for southeastern Europe: "Shiptars (i.e., Kosovo Albanians) were in a hurry to expel as many Serbs as possible from the country."(9)

The atrocities were deliberate, part of a plan to create a Serb-free "Greater Albania". In June 1942 the fascist puppet president of Albania, Mustafa Kroja, declared his goals candidly before his followers in Kosovo:

"The Serbian population of Kosovo should be removed as soon as possible . . . All indigenous Serbs should be qualified as colonists and as such, via the Albanian and Italian governments, be sent to concentration camps in Albania. Serbian settlers should be killed." (10)

Similar sentiments were expressed by a Kosovo Albanian leader, Ferat-bey Draga:

"time has come to exterminate the Serbs . . . there will be no Serbs under the Kosovo sun."(11)

The anti-Serb pogroms intensified after Italy's collapse in September 1943. The German Nazi's assumed control of Albania, including Kosovo. Italian military units pulled out and were replaced by three divisions of the German XXI Mountain Corps. The German presence freed the Albanians of restraint.

Kosovo Albanian nationalist militias called the "Balli Kombëtar" (or "Ballistas") carried out a campaign of deportation and murder of Serbs in 1943 and 1944. Then, on Hitler’s express order, the Germans formed the 21st "Waffen-Gebirgs Division der SS" - the Skanderbeg Division. With German leaders and Kosovo Albanian officers and troops, Hitler’s hoped that using the Skanderbergs Germany could "achieve its well-known political objective" of creating a viable (i.e., pure) "Greater Albania" including Kosovo.(12)

In general, German policy was to organize volunteer military units among Nazi sympathizers in occupied countries. Of all the occupied nations only the Serbs, Greeks and Poles refused to form Nazi volunteer units. Rather than joining the Nazis, as the Albanians in Kosovo did, the Serbs organized the largest anti-Nazi resistance in Europe. Both the Communist Partisans and thee Royalist Chetniks were mainly Serbs and both groups fought the Germans and their local allies throughout Yugoslavia.

The Germans recruited the 9,000 man Skanderbeg division to fight these resistance groups But the Skanderberg's Albanians had little interest in going up against soldiers; they mainly wanted to terrorize local Serbs, "Gypsies" and Jews. Many of these Kosovo Albanians had seen prior service in the Bosnian Muslim and Croatian SS divisions which were notorious for slaughtering civilians.

What explained this passionate hatred for non-Albanians? A big factor was militant Islam. The Fundamentalist "Second League of Prizren" was created in September 1943 by Xhafer Deva, a Kosovo Albanian, to work with the German authorities. The League proclaimed a jihad (holy war) against Slavs. They were backed by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, El Haj Emin Huseini, who was pro-Nazi and had called for getting rid of all Jews in what was at that time British-occupied Palestine. Albanian religious intolerance was shown by their targeting Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries for destruction.(13)

No one is certain of human destruction suffered in this Fascist Albanian Holocaust. Estimates range from 10,000 to 30,000 Serbs murdered. At least 100,000 were driven from Kosovo and replaced with "immigrants" from Albania proper.(14)

In justifying current Kosovo Albanian demands to secede from Serbia, the media has repeated, like a mantra: 90% of the population is Albanian. While this figure is most likely exaggerated (nobody knows for sure because Kosovo Albanians boycotted the census for years!) - the province has been largely Albanian. But a major cause of the current demographic imbalance: was the Albanians' success as Hitler's willing executioners during World War II.(15)

And their attention was not limited to Serbs. Unknown numbers of Roma ("Gypsies") were liquidated. And Kosovo Albanians, acting alone as well as under German direction, eliminated many of Kosovo's Jews.

The definitive work on Hitler's "Final Solution" in Yugoslavia (16) estimates that 550 Jews lived in Kosovo Hitler took over Yugoslavia. 210 of them, or 38 percent, were murdered in Kosovo, mainly by Albanians. In fact, the Skanderbeg division's first operation was to act as an "einsatzgruppen" against the Jews, and its second was a similar extermination foray against the Serb village of Velika where more than 400 Serbians were murdered.(17)

Ceda Prlincevic, head of the Jewish community in Pristina and an executive of the provincial archives, has explained to Emperors-Clothes that the Jews who were not murdered outright were sent by the Skanderbeg division to the German death camps Treblinka and Bergen-Belsen. One train, on its way to the latter camp, took the wrong track and was intercepted by advancing Russian soldiers. According to Mr. Prlincevic, were it not for that fortunate detour, the entire Jewish population of Kosovo would have been eliminated.

Although KLA supporters now claim that no Jews were killed in Kosovo and that Jews were sheltered by the Kosovo Albanians, such claims are false and should be treated the same way we would treat other Holocaust denials.

ALBANIAN FASCISTS GO ON FIGHTING

The Germans surrendered in 1945, but the remnants of the Kosovo Albanian Nazi and fascist groups continued fighting the Yugoslav government for six years, with a major rebellion from 1945 to 1948 in the Drenica region. (Drenica was the hotbed for KLA recruiting in 1998-99). That rebellion was under the command of Shabhan Paluzha; it is called the Shabhan Paluzha rebellion. Sporadic violence continued until 1951. It is literally true to say that the last shots of World War II were fired in Kosovo

 
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February 17 2006, 12:45 PM 

Stovani Zveku,
Molim te nemoj me lose shvatiti. Ja sam za napredak vasih balkanskih naroda. Ako stvarno moras napadaj ,molim , statisticare a ne mene osobno.

U pravu si, ne mozemo procutati zlocine "Skaderbegovih" kolaboracionih jedinica tijekom Drugog svijetskog rata.
Kao i ti - ja isto - osudjujem one varvarske zlocine na neduznom civilnom pucanstvu Kosova i Crne Gore.

Kazi mi molim odakle uzeo si onaj clanak. Uloga albanskih/kosovskih fasistickih kolaboranata tijekom Drugog svijetskog rata nije mi bas poznata.

Kazi mi molim, jeli to istina sto za vrijeme rezima Envera Hodze veliki broj albanskih izbjeglica nasao je skloniste u SFRJ ?




    
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February 17 2006, 12:49 PM 

Karla tebe izgleda nije monogo sto sta poznato ali ti jopet nadje za shodno i dade sebe pravo da osudjujes tj. pljujes skup razlicitijeh naroda i religija na Balkanu !!!!
Cudna si ti djevojka karla !

 
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February 17 2006, 12:51 PM 

Mussolini's Italy occupied Albania proper in April, 1939, and established a collaborationist regime with the apparent enthusiasm of most Albanians.(1) After Hitler invaded and occupied Yugoslavia in spring 1941, the bulk of current Kosovo-Metohija was placed under Italian-Albanian collaborationist control and annexed to Albania.(2)

When Italian forces moved into Kosovo they were accompanied by Albanians from Albania. Albanians living in Kosovo joined the invasion force as it made its way North and West, and also ambushed Yugoslav Army units moving to meet the invaders. These Albanians, natives of both Albania and Kosovo, instituted a campaign of murder and expulsion of Serbs. Initially, the mayhem was carried out by disorganized "kachak" (irregular) units. These were Albanian brigands from both sides of the border who had fought Yugoslavia throughout the 1920s and 1930s.(3) However, soon a native Kosovo militia was formed. This militia, called the Vulnetari, and various gendarme units, began more systematic persecution.(4)

 
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karlita fini ste vio talijani narod

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February 20 2006, 11:42 AM 

Originally Posted by cdm
ODLUKA ITALIJANSKOG VRHOVNOG SUDA SOKIRALA JAVNOST
19.02.2006. Silovanje djevice je tezi zlocin
Kasacioni sud, najvisa sudska instanca u Italiji, prekjuce je donio presudu koja je izazvala zgrazavanje u velikom dijelu italijanske javnosti, pogotovo medju zenama i feministkinjama.
Tom presudom potvrdjena presuda zalbenog suda kojom je Marku T. smanjena kazna za seksualno zlostavljanje 14-godisnje kcerke svoje tadasnje djevojke. Detalj koji je razjario Italijanke je obrazlozenje presude.
Naime, zalbeni i Kasacioni sud su se slozili kako osudjeniku kao olaksavajucu okolnost treba uzeti to da je zrtva prije incidenta sa ljubavnikom majke imala "vise seksualnih odnosa sa osobama iz svih starosnih grupa", odnosno "nije bila djevica".
Time je prihvacen stav Markovog advokata kako je licnost zrtve, s obzirom na njeno prethodno iskustvo, "vec bila izgradjena u seksualnom smislu", odnosno da zlostavljanje nije predstavljalo onakvu traumu kao sto bi to bio slucaj s njenim vrsnjakinjama.
Maria Gabriele Karniere, sefica "Ruzicastog telefona", organizacije za pomoc zenama-zrtvama zlostavljanja, smatra da je ta presuda Italiju bacila pedeset godina unazad.
Slicno su se izjasnili i mnogi clanovi italijanskog politickog establismenta, ukljucujuci i clanove vlade, a zgrazavanju su se pridruzili i predstavnici UNICEF-a.
Psiholog Iole Bardaro Verde presudu tumaci "nesigurnoscu sudija" kojima je, "kao muskarcima optuzba povrijedila seksualni identitet".
Italijansko pravosudje je posljednjih godina predmet ostrih kritika zbog seksizma, odnosno zbog presuda koje potvrdjuju macoisticke stereotipe o Italijanima.

 
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