My daughters wonderful post to a person who questions why we should make others feel bad for eating meat: She says: I am not concerned with the meat eating of meat eaters.... Instead, my focus and concern is with the animals lives; the lack of quality in their lives, their horrific daily abuse, their torture, their being disregarded as a life of any kind. They feel physical pain, excrutiating physical pain. No one cares, men are allowed to violate, exploit, use, punch, kick, stab, poke the eyes, scream and cuss at, beat with their hands and kick with their feet. They use heavy metal objects and pitchforks to abuse the animal who is locked up and tied up and cannot move. They are denied medical care, pain killers because men think these animals have no feelings. They are heartbroken when separated from their young, but the law protects them not. The law doesn't punish, prevent or change one iota for these precious innocent lives. This is UNJUST. They are not simply killed in a matter of moments so some morally weak person can ingest their flesh, tendons, viens, blood and bones. They live all their lives in a tormenting hell. A place that happy Christians are taught they should not even wish on their enemy. These animals have never been our enemy. Instead we have been theirs. So if the natural migration of this mindset leads to 'cut' into the comfort of those who eat meat, seeing that meat is the finished product of these haneous, unexcusable, unnecessary, crimes against heaven, then so be it.
 


my name Harpazo=RAPTURE, but how is it experienced?

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rapture, Harpazo, a REAL EVENT because spiritual is real Lead [-]


remember, the Kingdom of heaven is within you.......and few find it.....it is a NARROW ROAD TO LIFE

the actual word rapture isn't in the Bible, but the phrase "caught up" or harpazo in Greek is found there and here are a few of the verses to show it is a "lifting up" experience:

2Cr 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

2Cr 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

the word harpazo means

harpazô

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) to seize, carry off by force
2) to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly
3) to snatch out or away

Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count - Total: 13 AV - catch up 4, take by force 3, catch away 2, pluck 2, catch 1, pull 1

ME: AND I DID experience this SPIRITUAL EVENT in my OWN SOUL, so I know its real and true even as Paul knew it:

there is nothing to compare it to in this world other than being PHYSICALLY PULLED through a tunnel by a TREMENDOUS FORCE you can not see:

this is a spiritual experience and what is PULLED THROUGH and LIFTED UP is your spirit
and like Paul said, he didn't know if he now was out of his body or not, and neither did I because for almost six years, I could not feel the boundaries of my body unless I MOVED:
I felt my existence outside of the body, above the body, but yet, my body moved with me when my spirit moved to show it was still somehow connected.......but the spirit was NO LONGER INSIDE of me as it was before

it was outside as much as inside and therefore my experience was IN HEAVEN as much as it was on earth........








caught up or raptured...............its a real event
September 26 2008 at 12:22 PM
y (Select Login Harpazo)

Response to harpazo,.............CAUGHT up to God in Paradise
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I would even say it is a PHYSICAL EVENT since the Spirit is the LIFE of the body and when the spirit is moved in us, the body feels changed somehow, even to the point that when the spirit leaves the body, it dies.......so this is a powerful experience, and it is why it is said we "DIE WITH CHRIST", because the spirit actually leaves the old boundaries and moves us to a new consciousness IN CHRIST:
at least I witness to this event as REAL and physical and TRUE
how others speak of something they have never experienced.........I don't know
for me, I speak of what I have experienced........but I can't prove it anymore than Paul to me, could before I had the same experience

then I UNDERSTOOD Paul the way I never did the previous 26 years of being a "Christian": I was not really as much of a Christian as I THOUGHT I was, because CHRIST was not yet IN ME......even though I BELIEVED IN HIM








when CHRIST comes.............he changes everything in us...
September 26 2008 at 12:25 PM
y (Select Login Harpazo)

Response to caught up or raptured...............its a real event
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HE MAKES ALL THINGS NEW
those who have not experienced this MAKING OF ALL THINGS NEW, are just like before, only they believe things will change.........

and they will
in the TWINKLING OF AN EYE
when SUDDENLY the Lord comes into his TEMPLE........and our heart is that temple

believe it or not now............when it happens you will
you will believe because YOU HAVE SEEN and HEARD
not because YOU were told to believe






God is spirit and spirit is life: Christ is the MEDIUM God flows in and through us, the soul he is making: God is WILL and Christ is the EXPRESSION of that WILL in us and Jesus is the name of the soul who experiences this to its completion in US:

Posted on Dec 1, 2008, 3:51 AM

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