52 Lowland Division Provost
Company (Glasgow)
can anyone give me any info on the above and were they attached to the 10th armoured? I'm seeking info about a Sgt John McCorquodale
With reference to your enquiry about the 52nd (Lowland) Division Provost Company.
It is unlikely that the Provost Company from one Division would be attached to another Division as a formed unit.
Since the parent Corps of all Provost units during World War 2 was the Corps of Military Police (CMP), now known as the Royal Military Police (RMP), it is more likely that the SNCO you are referring to was posted as an individual to the 10th Division Provost Company.
You might try contacting the Royal Military Police museum in Chichester for further background information on the CMP during World War 2.
What is the difference between Yeoman and Rifle ? My ggrandfather was William Wyse(wise) Whyte and I had determined that he would have worn a Locharron of Scotland Lamont Tartan, yet he is pictured in a tartan that shows a red stripe and the tartan that I have found online has no red in it. My understanding was thet Whytes worn the Lamont since they had no individual tartan themselves. Any direction is sorely needed.
Things change!
sorry if that sounds mocking.
But you will find that tartans ofthen change.(contary to popular myth)
If it was a ggfather the picture would be in b&w? so how do you know it was red? it could be yellow!
You did not specify that is was a millitary tartan but I asume not? if it was it may be that if it has a red stripe that he was in a grendader company.
Some regiments had at times different weaves for different companies (ie part of a regiment).
As to yoeman and rifle the terms are I think interchangable and I seem to remember at least a few yoemanry rifles regiments etc.
I think your best bet would be to try the approperate Clan association most of which are on the web.
Good hunting Jim Bradman
Jim, thank you for the info. I didn't mention that gggarndfather's picture is an oil painting. When I view the Lamont plaid I do see that red stripe. perhaps you are right about him wearing a regimental kilt. That is why am trying to find what that looks like--he was a Capt. in 60th Reg. Rifle Vol. during 1850 through 1853.
Surely the difference between Yeomanry and Rifle Regiments is that originally Yeomanry Regiments were cavalry units and Rifle were infantry. By Second World War many of the Territorial Army Yeomanry Regiments had converted to other roles - such as armour or artillery.
We have been researching a relative of our, Ensign William Wise (or Wyse) Whyte, and have a map case with various papers. Among the papers we have are his commission papers showing his appointment as an Ensign March 1st 1860, and later documents who him becoming a Captain on March 24th, 1861. On his commission papers, he is sometimes known as William Whyte Jr.
Google showed us to your page and we wanted to check a couple of items. You seem to note that 'companies' were denoted by letter designations such as 'G', but his map case and commission papers clearly indicate that the '60th' of the Lanarkshire Rifle Volunteers was a 'Company' and not a 'Corps' as your pages seem to suggest. Do you know why this might be? Perhaps they used the terms interchangeably, or there was a switchover to new terminology at some date?
I know that there are archives at several 'Highlander museums' throughout Scotland... I wonder if you could direct us to one in particular that would have materials on this unit... their deployments and postings and (with any luck) successes in their campaigns to promote the Commonwealth.
I should mention that we also possess a Maori spear of his, which we take as meaning that he served in New Zealand. Other weak clues that make us feel that must have been one of his deployments is a substantial family offshoot in Melbourne Australia.
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide us, and thanks in particular for posting such detailed and specific information on your site.
Tony Lovell & Barbara Lovell
near Portland, Maine, USA
I'm not sure if this is the proper place to post something like this... With that said I will proceed with my question.
Are there any records that describe Queen Mary Stuart's Royal Guard?? May be giving names and such?? I'm with a Historical re-enactment guild that potrays Mary's court and I am having major difficulty finding any information on her Royal or Household Guard. The time I'm looking for will be between 1555 through 1570.
Hello: I am doing research for a friend of mine who is visiting Canada from Scotland. Her uncle, WILLIAM PATRICK BLACK of Glasgow died in WW2. He was approximately 23 years of age and died in 1941? and is supposed to be buried in France. His mother was ANN WOODS and father, WILLIAM PATRICK BLACK.He was not married. Can someone please send me the site that I should search to find this information. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Isobel Burlton-Wells (Canada)
BLACK, WILLIAM PATRICK
Initials: W P
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lincoln and Welland Regiment, R.C.I.C.
Date of Death: 06/07/1944
Service No: C/102786
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 52. A. 12.
Cemetery: BROOKWOOD MILITARY CEMETERY
This is the only William Patrick Black on the Commonwealth graves website. No mention of Glasgow and he died in 1944, it could be just his name on a memorial and that he died in France with no known grave.
My Grandfather was in the 7th Seaforth Highlanders 46th Brigade during ww2 and sadly to say he past away a short time ago. I was thinking about putting the 7th Seaforth Highlanders badge on his grave but I can't seem to find the right one. Can anyone help me find a picture of the right one?
For information on WWII role and badges see http://www.cameronians.com/15th/useaf.htm
I'm sure that'll tell you all you need to know.
Let me know if I can help in any other way.
Regards
My great grandfather joined the royal scots (1st Btn; garrison) in august 1914...he was shipped out to egypt/palestine in november 1915...he was transferred to the 7th btn (to make up the numbers after the combined effects of the train disaster & gallipoli?. There was also service in the labour Corps (navvies???) and finally in the Seaforth Highlanders then the Highland Light Infantry before discharge because of'sickness' in 1919
Family history has it that he was in Damascus with Allenby (and a few others of course!!!)
Does anyone have sources of material that I can check for further info on any of the above?
Maybe you can help me, or at least give me some clues on the following:
One of my ancestors is James Steward (later called himself Jacobus Stuart), who married a Dutch woman in 1706, and remarried in 1712. He stayed in The Netherlands and had 5 children, the youngest of which is my 5th great-grandfather.
He served as a soldier in The Hamilton Regiment (part of The Royal Scots?), commanded by Lord George Hamilton, at that time stationed in Nijmegen, The
Netherlands, if my information is correct.
Is there any way of finding out more about this soldier? Have records survived? In what region where these soldiers recruited at that time?
Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.
Have you considered checking the records of the Scots Brigade which served in Holland in the 18th century. See 'The History of the Scots Brigade in the Service of The United Netherlands 1572-1782 Extracted by Permission from the Government Archives at the Hague and edited by James Ferguson' Volume II 1698-1782, The University Press, Edinburgh, 1899.
There is a copy of this in the National Army Museum, Chelsea, London (need a readers' ticket applied for in advance of visit for security reasons) and (I think also) a copy in the British Library at Euston in London (also need a readers' ticket for admission).
In the early 18th century the British regiments were usually referred to by the name of their commanding officer, up until the time of the Seven Years' War (1756-63).
These volumes not only outline the history of the regiment but also list (but not fully) many marriages and baptisms recorded in the early 18th century at various garrisons where the Scots were serving and very many married not only Dutch women but German and Swiss also.
There were three battalions in the Scots Brigade and they moved around regularly, eg the 1st Battalion (in the period I am studying, with approximate dates): -
1749-51 - Bosch (? now Noord-Brabant, Netherlands)
1752-53 - Gorcum (now Gorsem in Flemish Brebant, Belgium)
1754-56 - Tournay (now Tournai, Walloon, Belgium)
1757-58 - Nimeguen (Nijmegen, Gelderland, Netherlands)
1759-68 - Breda (Noord-Brabant, Netherlands)
JD is obviously very knowledgeable about Scottish soldiers
overseas. I am still looking for a soldier named Hamilton who was in Germany prior to 1840 and would like some guidance as to what to read. Would you mind getting in touch.
jan
there's a display of the Scottish soldiers in the Netherlands at Slot Loevestein, who spent some time in garrison there.
Also, at http://members.lycos.nl/WilHermsen/ned/legerdex.htm or www.dutchregiments.org, you can find more information about the Scottish regiments in Dutch service.
And off course the bevolkingsregisters at Nijmegen might shed some more light on the matter.
Met vriendelijke groet,
kind regards,
Bas de Groot
IJsselstein
the Netherlands
www.gordonhighlanders.cjb.net
Alexander Graham, private, 9637, 8th Bn., Cameronians
(Scottish Rifles) died Monday 28 June 1915 on the Gallipolli Peninsula. I believe this is my great uncle but require additional info.. Does anyone know if the enlistment records for this Bn.are available or where further info. such as next of kin, etc. might be found.
If this is the right alexander, both his parents were deceased at the time of his death and he may have listed one of his sisters as next of kin.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Researching the history of my grandfather, Harry Harris from Denny, Stirlingshire. I
discovered, through the War Graves Commission web site, that he was killed at Arras
on 27th April 1917, aged 36 and that he had been a private,
No.353051 in the 2nd Bn. H.L.I.
Recently my mother has given me my grandfathers victory medal. I was surprised to find the rim is inscribed: -
"201622 PTE. H. HARRIS. R. SCOTS."
Could the regiment and number given just be a clerical error? or could you suggest
any other cause for the discrepancy. To have both the number and the regiment
different seems most odd.
I had a look in the War Graves Commission lists but did not find any evidence of a Harry Harris having died in action while serving in the Royal Scots Regiment, at that time.
The only other written evidence I have of the matter is an extract from the "Denny and Dunipace Roll of Honour, The Great War 1914-1918", which gives his identification as:-
"Private, 2nd. HLI No. 353051",
the same number and regiment given by the WGC.
I would be grateful if anyone has an explanation for the discrepancy.
Ron Thomson
Ron - the SDITGW database shows Harry as killed in action 23/4/17 (note the date) and serving with 2nd HLI as #353051 ....... and also notes him to have previously served as #4998 in the Royal Scots.
The number in the medal, 201622 would indicate that when he served as #4998 he was in the 4th (Territorial) Battalin R Scots and was renumbered 201622 when the whole TF was allocated new numbers during 1916-17. You "have" to assume that he was transferred to the HLI prior to his death and either the medal record office missed the transfer or the family supplied duff information to the CWGC post war.
The only way to sort this out properly is to search the medal records at the National Archives (PRO), and also see if a service record survives.
regards - Tom
My great-grandmother - Esther Ann Wallace - daughter of Edward Alexander Wallace of the 91st Regiment, was one of the children saved when the "Abercrombie Robinson", carrying the regiment to the Cape, was wrecked in Table Bay in August 1842. My father told me of how his grandmother (Esther Ann) - who must have been about 8 years old at the time - was strapped to a raft to get her to the shore. I know too that Edward Alexander Wallace eventually became the Chief Constable in Grahamstown. What I am trying to establish is whether there is still in existence, a full list of ALL who sailed on that voyage of the "Abercrombie Robinson" from Ireland to South Africa. Whilst I know about Esther Ann and her father both being on the ship, I do not know whether
Edward's wife was on board when it sailed from Ireland - whether she arrived in South Africa and was saved from the wreck or whether she was perhaps one of those who died on the voyage. I really hope that somebody will have the answers to my questions.
Thank you .... and God Bless. Nanette.
I recently purchased a WWI or WWII brass Gordon Highlanders regimental buckle....the one with the words India and Egypt on it. I am trying to find info on the leather belts worn with these buckles so I can make one. I am wanting to wear this with my Gordon kilt to some upcoming Scottish festivals. I have a few blurry pictures but cannot see how the belt is attached. I am trying to see how the belt is adjusted for size and how the free end of the belt attaches to the buckle. I think it adjust kind of like the military web belts of the U.S. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Take care
Mike
GORDON PAVEY (no login) from IP address 80.40.18.179
DAVID GORDON MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN INDIA WHEN WW1 STARTED.HE WAS MOVED TO FRANCE 17 2 1915 WITH THE A S HIGHLANDERS.HE ENLISTED AT THE AGE OF 17 IN 1910.CAN ANYONE HELP ME FILL IN THE GAP AS HIS WAR RECORD HAS NOT SURVIVED. HE MAY HAVE BEEN WITH THE CAMERONIANS IN INDIA
Iam researching 'Scottish Auxiliary units'.This was a cover name for a Nationwide Resistance network set up in the UK had this country been invaded.Three Battalions were in existance, 201 Battalion was the Scottish Auxiliary unit (others were 202/203 in England) Trained in all kinds of sabotage and covert skills, they were tasked with causing as much distruption to the German invasion forces. I am looking for information on the following:
.Memories from former members of the Auxiliary units
.Training areas used by the units.
.Sites of Operational Bases (OB) (underground bases)or
ammunition/explosive stores.
.Any 'Regular' Army personnel who trained Auxunits.
.Auxunit members who when stood down in 44 went on to
work with Special Forces units.
Any information no matter how small will help me in producing a book on the Scottish auxunits. I can be contacted at: DAVID BLAIR 265D HIGH STREET KIRKCALDY FIFE KY1 1JH. aux201@blueyonder.co.uk
I came across what I think might have been an Auxiliary Unit hide in a burial ground on the West coast of North Uist. A local farmer pointed it out to me and I can't think of any other reason to have an underground chamber accessed down steps in a burial ground. Presume there was originally some sort of entrance by lifting a gravestone.
We have in our family a waterloo medal that we think was awarded to one William Lock born about 1800 in East Kilbride, Glasgow, Scotland If this info is correct what Regiment would he have likely Joined and also his age of 15 to 17 was this to young for him to have joined up
Thankyou from
Napier in New Zealand
As I understand it all vetrans of waterloo were awarded the medal reguardless. So he could have been in any regiment.
The age was not to young as many sons of solders in a regiment would start as drummers etc and when they were as tall as a brown bess (about 130 cm) I think they would join the line.
Not much help I am afraid
To research more you would probaly have to compile a list of all regments and then check their rolls if still in existance
But you could possibly narrow the search if you knew where he or his father was born as this might indicate roughly what regiment he might have joined,
His name should be stamped into the medal apparenly they were all engraved by machine.
Jim Bradman
I'm look for info on my Grandmother's half brother.
I think that he was in the Black Watch when he was taking prisoner by the German at Dunkirk.His name was Peter Milroy.I live in America.
Yours
Norman Robbie
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I am trying to find details of the wartime camp at Castelholm,Langholm,Dumfries.My grandfather Alex McGregor was killed in an explosion here in July 1945 but I can find no trace records of the camp which I believe was still there until the late 50s.He served in the Royal Artillery at Scarborough and was sent to Langholm prior to discharge
I've read conflicting information about the sporran badge for the WW1 43rd Battalion Cameron Highlanders of Canada. One reference indicates the the sporran badge was the sporran badge of the 79th Regiment, Cameron Highlanders of Canada. A second reference states the 43rd Battalion cap badge was also used on the sporran.
Can anyone clarrify this information? Which is correct?
My father, Martin O. Wascher, is trying to anybody from the summer of 1945, who played with the Queens Own Cameron Highlanders, at the Kochi army base on the Shikoku island in Japan.
Gentlemen,
I am attemptiing to find out any information on a member of the Highland Light Infantry who fought in France during the Great War and was captured by the Germans. This individual was spent approx. 2 years as a guest of the Germans. His name is Authur McNamara. He was my wife's grandfather and any help or information that can be provided would be greatly appreciated.
Location of 1st Battalion Highland Light Infantry, June to August 1944?
July 25 2003 at 7:30 PM
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My sisters and I are trying to find out where our father served during WWII. We have obtained his service records, but these are not entirely clear.
From Oct 43 to June 44 he was with the 10th Battalion Cameronians, Highland Light Infantry, in the UK.
On 18/6/44 he joined the 1st Battalion Highland Light Infantry, and went to North West Europe, arriving on 25/6/44. This is where it gets confusing for me trying to follow his movements. The records only indicate 'NWE' wherever a location has to be filled in. Can anyone tell me what division the 1st Bn HLI belonged to, so I might be able to discover where he was (because larger groups, like divisions are mentioned in accounts of the battles)? Was it the 15th Scottish Division? (I ask this because I found out that the 10th Bn, where he first was, did belong to the 15th Scottish).
Any help, or suggestions about where I might search, would be very welcome.
in 71st Brigade, 53rd Welsh Infanty Division October 1943 to August 1945. Action at :
Odon 1944, Caen 1944, Mont Pincon 1944, Falaise 1944, Nederijin 1944, Rhineland 1945, Rhine 1945
A.D. Bolland. Team spirit : the administration of an infantry division during "Operation Overlord" : France-Holland-Belgium-Germany, June 1944-May 1945 (Aldershot : Gale & Polden, 1948) 63 p.
C.N. Barclay. The history of the 53rd (Welsh) Division in the Second World War (London : William Clowes, 1956) xvii, 233 p.
Patrick Delaforce. Red crown and dragon : 53rd Welsh Division in North-West Europe, 1944-1945 (London : Tom Donovan Publishing, 1996) 224 p.
The Division was also in action in the Ardennes.
Aye
Malcolm
In het boek "BRABANT BEVRIJD" van Jack Didden en Maarten Swarts ISBN 90-5327--64-7 (paperback)
is sprake van de 53 Welsh Div bij de bevrijding van 's Hertogenbosch ( 178 e.v.)rond 22 okt 1944.
De 15 (S) Divisie zat in de Peel en 10 HLI bevond zich toen omgeving Helmond Asten in de richting Horst en de Maas.
My grandfather, Alexander R. McMartin, of Kirkintelloch served in WW1 but I do not know what rank or division.
He later emigrated to Canada with his 10 brothers to Canada.
I need a copy of his service record as I am trying to amass information on my family to obtain a Right to Abode Stamp.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Hello I am seeking Malcolm Campbell, who was in Scots Guards drummer in around 1960s, he came from Kelty, Also Sgt James McTrusty, and Sgt Jim McCurly
both Scots Guards both stationed at Pirbright in 1960s
also came from Kelty in Fife, along with myself,message for you all,,,,,,I should have listened to you all ,,,,Hoaw are you all now alive I hope,
Big John of Union Street.
There was a POW camp between New Deer and Stuartfield
Aberdeenshire in WW2 does anyone know what Regiments guarded the POW Camp, there was various other camps in that region does anyone have info on them, I am seeking American movements in that area around april/May 1944. and also in 1942, and also any movements of Polish troops.or any American airbases in that area.
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also contact with anyone who can remember the weekly dance at New Deer or Mintlaw Hotel which was attended
by Troops.
My mother was called Flora Taylor and I remember her telling me about the dances she went to in Mintlaw and Peterhead during WW2. Her brother Bert was an unarmed combat instructor during the war and taught her a few moves that were very useful when she was walking home in the dark!
The point of this email is that she fell for an Italian from the POW camp at Stuartfield and they produced me. His name was Luigi Pittuello and he came from Udine in Northern Italy. My mother said he was a school teacher, so he must have been in his 20's in 1945.
I was born in December 1945 and they lived together in New Pitsligo until he was repatriated in mid 1946. She never heard from him again and I can understand why.
I've got to the stage in my life now when it would be really interesting for me and my grown up offspring to get in touch with Italian relatives, so I thought it might be useful to start the search with some ideas from you.
I am licensee of Porters Bar which sits opposite the site of the now demolished Piershill Barracks, I am searching for the history of which regiments were stationed there from the 1700's until it's closure in 1934.
My Father served at Piershill Barracks from 1929 to 1930 with the 13th Field Brigade The 2nd 8th 44th Batteries made up the brigade the remaining Battery was held at Dunbar Barrack during that time, also there from The Royal Artilliary was the 4th Light Artilliary who returned to Piershill from India in 1930 after the 13th left Piershill in 1930 to entrain at Gorgie sidings enroute to Germany this order was subsequently cancelled and the 13th Brigade moved to Lille Barracks Aldershot.
My Father who is 94 years old still remembers being stationed at Piershill with fond memories of his time there.
CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THE NAME OF A PLACE WITHIN STIRLINGSHIRE,I THINK, POSSIBLY IN A 10 MILE AREA OF GRANGEMOUTH WHICH HELD A BARRCKS,WHICH IN TURN HAD AN ARMY REGIMENT THERE IN 1945 POSSIBLY PARAS? I THINK THE NAME MAY HAVE STARTED WITH B.
OR EVEN BETTER THE NAME OF THE REGIMENT?
Hi Gordon,
You could be thinking of Bannockburn or Bonnybridge, but i'm not sure if there were Paras there at all during the War.
Grangemouth was an RAF fighter base, but may have been used for other duties.
Regards,
Gordon
One source of information may well be a book that I recently obtained via my local library, details as follows:-
The Scots Guards 1919 - 1955 by Erskine D.H.
I beleive that this source will offer detailed info about your Grandfather CSM T W Brown DCM as it appears that out grandfathers served along side eachother, that been Sergeant William Young DCM who was promoted to CSM due to the loss of your grandfather.
The above book offers excellent and detailed information (and includes maps) about how they came under fire, how, where, and is quite detailed considering.
Details of your grandfather can be viewed on pages 260, 261, 552 and 558
I am trying to research Capt William j Blair of the above unit as I have purchased his Glengarry and bagdge as above some papers and his Scottish Twenty Club medal named to him as a Sgt in 1st DRV in 1897 what was that for and what unit isthat?
I am a collector of Royal Navy insignia so this is all new to me.Thanks for looking and any info gratfully received
All the best
BJ
1st DRV would be 1st Dumbartonshire Rifle Volunteers.
20 Club medal would be a prize for rifle shooting.
The 1st DRV had a good reputation for competitive rifle shooting - one of their members, Sergeant A Lawrance winning the Queen's Prize at Bisley in 1882
Rory McGregor (no login) from IP address 130.209.6.42
Looking for any information on the Lanarkshire Artillery Volunteers (1859) or 80 Field Brigade (based in Townhead, Glasgow from 1929). When did 80 F.B leave Townhead? Any pointers much appreciated.
1st Lanarkshire Royal Garrison Artillery (Volunteers)
July 17 2003, 10:30 AM
"The 1st Corps was formed, it is said, at the suggestion of Prince Albert, made at the opening of the Loch Katrine Water-works on October 14, 1859, that Glasgow should form some artillery. Mr John Wilkie, a leading lawyer of the city, took the matter in hand...." (extract from "Scottish Volunteer Force 1859-1908" by Major-General JM Grierson CVO, CB, CMG, published 1909).
Any help?
I have, through family, a clock with inscibed brass plate.
Inscription reads to Bugle Major Robt Strachan, from the bugle band, 1st Lanarkshire Rifles, 10th June 1882.
If anyone can help with any history behind or about my family member. Please reply to the email adress.
Thanks, Steve
According to the Glasgow Post Office Directory's listing of Territorial Army units for 1939 the 80th (Lowland) Field Regiment, Royal Artillery had its headquarters at 21 Taylor Street, Townhead, Glasgow G2.
The batteries comprising the Regiment (or at least those located in the city) were the 317th with HQ at 138 Berkeley Street, Glasgow C3 (Guns at Hotspur St. Maryhill) and 319th with HQ at 159 Butterbiggins Road, Glasgow S2 (Guns at Taylor St.) I assume that there was a 318th Battery located somewhere outside the city.
Hi, Can anyone tell me what the significance of the number of tails is on the feather bonnet and is there any way of telling which regiment they are from?.I have come into possesion of 2 feather bonnets, 1 with 4 tails and a white feather and the other with 5 tails and a white feather both have round black rossettes the one with 5 tails also has a badge with a gold egyptian sphinx and the other appears to never have had any badge.
while I suppose there are better informed that me (I hope) the one with the gold sphynx would indicate 42RHR dont think that other regiments use same but the 42 also wear a red hackle!
you could check with the black watch site.
Generaly I dont think there is any signifigance re the number of tails probaly a minor regemental distinction.
Also they both could have been from pipe bands or simmilar do they have any regimental/ordance markings?
Hello Jim thanks for your reply, there are no names or markings on either of the bonnets apart from a makers mark on the one with 5 tails and gold/gilt sphinx the name is Moore Taggart & Co, Glasgow. I searched on the web for information and found they were a uniform manufacturer in Glasgow from 1871 - 1878, other than that I dont know anything about either bonnet. I thought the tails might be an indication of a rank or have some regimental distinction. The badge doesnt have any regimental name either, just the word Egypt and a sphinx, so i am at a loss, I just assumed they were military bonnets, I didnt give it a thought they could be from a pipe band. I presume the 42RHR is an abbreviation of some sort for Black Watch? I'll check their web page as you suggested. Thanks again,
My grandfather Robert Watson born in Cambusnethan Scotland 1900? joined the Cameronians (I'm told) at age 16, so probably around 1917. I'm also told he was a Quartermaster Sgt and was sent to India? How can you find out info if you do not know their military number? My brother visited the museum in Hamilton and was told nothing could be done unless we knew his number, as nothing was filed alphabetic. Is this true? Any info you can give me would help my search. I'm trying to locate his death details. I do know he was living in 1955 perhaps in Corby England.
David Anderson (no login) from IP address 195.93.48.14
Hello.
Can anyone tell me where the 7th Gordons did their training before embarking for France in 1915? My Grandfathers Attestation papers says he joined at Aberdeen in May, he was "posted" the next day but did not leave for France until September.
The 7th. (or more correctly the 1/7th. Gordons) was Territorial Army Battalion with HQ in Banchory. It was mobilised on 4/8/14 and moved to Bedford where it trained with other Battalions of the Gordons and other Highland Regiments. It landed in France on 3/5/15 as part of the 1/1st. Highland Diviision soon renamed the 51st.(H) Division.
I have a reproduction WW1 scottish uniform (BW) and I am interested in getting the insignia and its placement correct. If anyone could point me into the right direction I would be grateful. I am also interested in original or repro equipment for same uniform. Thanks in advance. Scott
Hi Scott,
As a start point, you could try the following titles from the Men At Arms series by Osprey Publishing-
The British Army 1914-18
Scottish Regiments in the World Wars
British Territorial Units 1914-18
I believe there was also a title dedicated to the Black Watch, but do not know if it is still in print.
As for equipment, try the following suppliers-
Silverman's, Mile End Road, London (www.silvermans.co.uk)
Regimentals at The Angel, Islington, London.(www.regimentals.co.uk)
The Treasure Bunker, Glasgow(www.Treasure-Bunker.co.uk)
For additional information, contact The Western Front Association's Website.
Hope this is some use to you.
Regards, Gordon
I do have the Osprey book on the BW and another fine photographic history of the regiment also. I will check those websites for more goodies. Tip of the tam to you.
Robert G. Dunlop was My great grandfather he was a member of The Black Watch. I have been trying to find out what he did. He was a Drummer. And did something famous in the war but as stories fade, nobody kept track on paper. I have many pictures, one at a unknown barracks. He also went by "Bob". He was Sir Harry Lauder's Drummer. He came to the USA in Oct. 1919 on the ship Columbia from the port of Glasgow. He was a messman on board ship.
This so-called "interesting link" leads straight to a porn site. it is a perfect example of what the postings below are complaining about. DONT be fooled.
Hi Ralph,
I totally agree with both yourself and Jean. Despite numerous complaints from regular users, it is still almost impossible to read any postings without fighting your way through a barrage of pop-up adverts first.
In common with Jean, my use of the forum has also dropped to around once a week because I refuse point-blank to put up with it.
Regards, Gordon
I like the previous postings am a bit disapointed with the way this site deteriorated over the past few months I have noticed that some of the more informed members of the forum no longer contribute, it is a great pity because it used to be a very informative site. Rob.B.
Lt. Col. Stephen Peacocke 1798 - 1815 Scots Fus. Gds
June 17 2003 at 5:27 PM
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Seeking information about Lt. Col. Stephen Peacocke who was in the Scots Fusilier Guards approx 1798 - 1815. Any info would be helpful. I have acquired a picture of him but no background info.Thanks
Richard Borley
My Maiden name was Peacocke.
Stephen is my 3rd Great Grandfather he married Louisa Tottenham of "Rosegarland" Co. Wexford (daughter of Ponsonby Tottenham M.P)
I would be interested in any info you have on Stephen. I can also supply you with his childrens names if you are interested.
I was surprised to find that the pipe tune "The Cock O' The North" was adopted as the Regimental March Past as late as the 1930s'. Can anyone tell me what the Regimental March was (if any) pre- 1930? The tune refers to the Marquis of Huntly who raised the Regiment and I thought it was always associated with the Gordons.
before the 1870's-1880's, regimental marches changed with every new commander taking charge of a regiment, a new march being introduced that had the new commander's fancy. The Gordon Highlanders, for example, had no fixed regimental march during the Napoleonic Wars, although we know of some tunes that were played during the period. A good book on this subject is "Songs & Music of the Redcoats".
All the best,
Bas de Groot
the Netherlands
www.gordonhighlanders.cjb.net
Have recently seen this cup 18.5" tall on a base. Cup was donated by a Captain H. A. Kar. I have a full description of the cup but was unable to paste to this message. I am looking for information on Just Who are the LRV, Captain Kar and the challenge. If anybody can help please contact me. Thank you Peter
I hope someone can help with this enquiry...I have a marriage cert where the father is listed as John McNair pensioner 1st foot reg. John was born around 1800 and was a Carter in Renfrew before coming to Glasgow around 1833. I cannot find him on the 1841 Census and wondered if the marriage cert could give me some info as to where he might be!..What regiment was known as the 1st foot..and where would they have been around 1830-1841..I hope this info is not to vague for someone to be able to assist.
The Royal Scots, 1st of Foot, would have probably been the regiment. They have their own website and can be found referred to in many other sites. If you cannot find the info you seek through these routes please get in touch and I will happily research data for you.
Thank you both for your assistance. Every little bit of info helps with family history and knowing where the family could have been for the 1841 census helps a great deal!
Thanks again for taking time to respond to my enquiry.
Christine.
During this period the regiment had two battalions. 1st Battalion was stationed in the West Indies until 1835. During 1836/38 it was in Ireland and in 1839 it returned to Glasgow until November when it embarked for Gibraltar. The battalion stayed at Gibraltar until February 1846 when it was sent again to the West Indies, remaining there until March 1848. Canada was its next station until July 1851 when it returned to England.
The stations of the 2nd Battalion were: 1830/31 India. June 1831/January 1832 England. 1832 various stations North Scotland. 1833 Glasgow. 1834/36 Ireland. 1837/1844 Canada. 1845 West Indies. 1846 Edinburgh, Glasgow then Manchester.1847 England then Ireland. 1848/1853 Ireland.
My ggrandfather, Peter F. Gentleman, left Glasgow in 1867 and went to Halifax where he was in the Royal Artillery Br igade 4,5 or 6 Battery; Royal Artillery Bde 3 , 1 Battery or 4th Brigade, G Battery.
Does this mean anything to anyone? Where can I research these units and lastly, were these units formed in Scotland or Nova Scotia?
Any help greatly appreciated.
June Rupp
Clemson, SC USA
Can anybody help with my gradfather James Angus who joined the Royal Scots in Edinburgh in Jan 1886?
I know nothing of the military, but understand from his papers he was in the 8th Prov. Battalion and served in Boer War. On his return he stopped in Malta. He was discharged in 1902 and rejoined in 1903 into the Militia for the County of Peebles (The Royal Scots) until 1907. My main problem is that I have 2 sets of papers, but different army numbers, would this be normal? If anybody can point me in the right direction I would be very grateful for any ideas.
THE ROYAL SCOTS DURING THE 2nd SOUTH AFRICAN (BOER) WAR
July 1 2003, 5:35 PM
Margaret
You were asking why your Grandfather had two Regimental Numbers for the Royal Scots.
According to my records,
The main body of 1st Battalion, The Royal Scots, comprising 27 officers, 1 Warrant Officer, 1013 NCOs and men and 2 horses departed from Queenstown in Ireland (The Royal Scots were stationed in Belfast)on 6th November 1899 on Troopship 63 "Dictator" for Cape Town.
On 28th February 1900, a reinforcement draft of 1 officer, 100 men and 1 horse from 1st Battalion The Royal Scots from their Station at Belfast departed from Southampton on Troopship No 5 "Assaye" bound for Cape Town.
A reinforcement draft of 1st Battalion The Royal Scots, comprising 1 officer and 100 men, departed from their Depot at Glencorse on 17th March 1900 sailing on Troopship No 97 "Custodian" from Southamton for Cape Town, the main port of disembarkation in South Africa.
On the 17th May 1900, the final reinforcement draft of 1 officer and 238 men departed from Belfast on Troopship 83 "Cavour" bound for Cape Town.
In South Africa, a further officers and men 100-150 men were detached to fight as Mounted Infantry with No 1 Company, 12th (Scottish) Mounted Infantry (12th MI).
It is more likely if your Grandfather was from one of the Militia Battalions prior to the start of the South African War, that he volunteered to serve with the Regular (1st) Battalion. If he remained with the Battalion throughout the war he may have been allocated a Regular Number. If you still have his campaign medals from that period, his Regimental Number and Battalion would be engraved on the edge. Alternatively a check of the Medal Roles for the South African War at the PRO in Kew would confirm which Battalion he was listed with.
I hope this helps a little.
Apologies for not replying sooner but unfortunately Pop Ups from MSN which are being constantly blocked by my firms firewall are all but making it impossible to enjoy this site as much as I used to.
Duncan,
Many thanks for reply, it helps explain a lot. I have managed to find out a little more, it seems he enlisted as a private and received the South Africa 1900 3 clasps medal. I also have a letter from the Cpt. Adj. A.I.Tracy, dated 19th June 1901, from Ballykinler Camp, Co. Down to him at The Royal Scots, 55, Shorroulds Rd. Fulham, London, in which he was applying for a name change. As you can see, my grandfather and his family are a bit of a mystery, especially as we know he was fostered to a family in Edinburgh!
Margaret
Does anyone know if any records still exist for the Fifeshire Fencibles for the 1790s? I believe my g-g-g-g-grandfather was a member, and I would love to get any information on him that I can. I have seen the great info re: the Loyal Tay Fencibles on the web, and am hoping that similar information still exists for Fife. Any direction would be much appreciated. Thanks for your help.
You might care to check out http://www.regiments.org/milhist/uk/lists/fen1793.htm
which lists all the 1790s Fencible units - there does not appear to be an on-line source for the Fifeshire Fencible Cavalry. However there are records in the Public Records Office at Kew, London, for this unit. The references are WO13/3748 and 3749. The documents are muster rolls and pay records. I am not sure whether they will include names of private soldiers and non-commissioned officers. My recollection of using similar records for another Fencible regiment was that there were name details for officers but just numbers of other ranks present, or on leave, or sick etc.
William Ranken of Barnsmuir was my gggg grandfather on the distaff side. His daughter married John Fortune my ggg-grandfather and Barnsmuir(Kilrenny) was the family home throughout the 19th century. The gallant Captain Ranken, a hero of the War of American Independence, served in the Fifeshire Fencibles during the 1790's. We have a bundle of correspondence between him and his wife during 1797 when the regiment was on duty in Yorkshire. It's a vivid spotlight on the times, tho' hardly brimming with military information! I can get you copies next time I'm home if they would interest you.
