I just wonder if you have actually had the ghastly life-changing experience of having had a child unjustifiably removed ? If you haven't you should not be allowed to throw these kind of remarks casually around people such as me who visit this site on a very genuine basis/need. I would be most interested if you could please post a simple 'yes' or 'no' here. I have been through absolute hell for almost four years and have no access, present or card/letter giving ability with my gorgeous little girl. I have never done anything wrong, but for malicious reasons my ex-partner and his adoptive mother very calculatingly organized the removal of my child prior to her birth. I was alone at the hospital and couldn't move because of the epidural and morphine administered during a caesarian birth. I could not read the words on the paper-work I was being served with and was denied the use of a phone by hospital staff, making an excuse that their cordless phone had been stolen. Obviously I became frantic and for hours all I could do was lie there with no contact available to consult (a) my family (b) a lawyer or (c) my counsellor. I have never had any substance or alcohol problems and still don't. I have led a very sheltered upbringing as a child and my family unfortunately believed all the brainwashing CYFS did. Now my family realize that I was telling the truth all along but unfrotunately for me and my child our relationship has been completely and utterly bastardized by an organization that knowingly and very deliberately committ perjury in a court of law. Unless you have large amounts of money here in New Zealand you tend to mostly get very ineffective and useless legal representation that cause more problems than they actually solve. My new partner is a successful businessman (a multi-millionaire), travels to your country and others several times a year but never offered his financial support towards legal bills. To be emotionally challenged (not intellectually) and then be thrown into court case after court case and expected to defend yourself is abhorrent. Please try to appreciate that most people utilizing this site have probably been similarly disempowered and may have also been on the receiving end of a corrupt government department the way my child and I have. I have organized a public meeting towards addressing our concerns for safety of our children falsely uplifted and I think it would be more constructive of you to give the people utilizing this site the benefit of the doubt most of the time, instead of causing grieving parents even more distress. Thanks for your consideration.