I have to hear from my brother every single game about how disgusting and dirty our nets are and that they need to be replaced! I am not sure though it might just be the Toyota Center's responsibility to replace them as the ones who manage the venue, if the speakers go out, the Center is responsible.
if its to talk about hockey then talk about hockey...would you rather the Tri city Americans buy some nice flashy nets with perfect white twine or would you want them to throw some extra cash at gear for the players? If we treat our players well they'll want to come play here, they'll see it as a privelege... buying new nets won't attract better hockey players to our organization
it has to do with the image of the team and the arena... would you consider filthy sweaters OK? no ! its the same thing take care of the equipment. As far as speakers going out, the speakers at the zamboni end of the arena have been ouyt for a couple years and all we get is one excuse after another about them getting fixed.
The excuses seem to run rampant around there lately. It may just be me but is everyone else tired of the endless bullsh!t excuses regarding the video screens? These screens have some great capabilities that the Americans never use. Thier excuse??? Cost. Well, every other team in the division have and use thier video replay screens for more than just advertising. Yet, the Toyota Center and the Americans feel that our 1988 technology and equipment will continue to keep everyone satisfied. The sound system needs updated, 10% of the seats are missing an arm rest or broken in some other capacity,nets are need replaced and the ice surface is still far from good.
Anyone remember the urinal in the mens room behind section T last year? It was clogged and overflowed with piss for the entire duration of the playoffs. During the entire playoffs the facility never removed the urinal to avoid further use or bothered to clean the stale piss out it. For over a month that restroom stunk so bad you could smell stale piss out on the concourse.
Walk-up prices went up this year as did facility use fees. Where is this added revenue going? The Americans blame the ticket price increase on The Toyota Center management. If this is true, shouldn't the management be putting some of that money back into the facility?
Anyone else listen to away games via the internet radio broadcast? It is by far the worst in the league. The incompitent engineers forget to turn the feed on until 2 minutes into the period 25% of the time. Even when they do get it going in time it cuts out numerous times during the broadcast because thier dial up connection timed out.You basically get 18 minutes of dead air between periods with no commentary,interviews etc... During the post game show internet listeners cannot here any of the replays of the goals scored as you do if listening on the radio. Once again,the team and KFLD teaming up with thier 1995 technology here in 2009.
The moral of this post is simple. Both the team and the Toyota Center management need to quit bieng greedy and start putting some money back into the facility and back into the production.
This message has been edited by HAF37 on Jan 24, 2009 2:01 PM
Money needs to be spent on the Toyota Center, to update the entire building.
The MAJOR problem I see, if one bolt-or-screw-or-nut is turned, inside the main Center, the ADA law will kick in and the City of Kennewick will HAVE to update the entire building, according to the Americans With Disabilities Act. You want to talk about major fixes that need to be made, in the handicapped area.
I can't see the City spending that kind of money on a 20 year old building. New nets...maybe-major repairs...doubtful.
It is my understanding that if there is remodeling the ADA rules must be complied with and the violations fixed, but it is also my understanding that the new ADA rules are mandatory compliance, and that ALL facilities have a certain amount of time to bring the building into compliance, whether the city, management or whatever knows it or not, they are going to be held to task to fix the blazing errors in accordance to the ADA. Now, whether or not those fixes are going to add up to enough money combined with the other glaring issues (ice, bathrooms, concourse, etc.) to warrant a new building, I don't know. I know there is a "task force" looking into the viability of this building as opposed to a new one. Quite frankly I don't see our community ponying up the money for a 30 million dollar arena. I hope they would, but I just see the problems everytime a bond issue goes to vote.
I guess some of us just need to get to the public facility district meetings and let them know our concerns, they are the ones who hired the management and the management reports to the facility district. Right now they are busy patting themselves on the back for the good job they are doing making money on the convention center. The meeting I attended was pretty interesting.
The facility fee is something the facility district board agreed to and it has been increased each of the past three years. That money is supposed to go directly into maintaining the building. It is my understanding Ams asked that this fee be a seperate fee so the fans can see the fee and hopefully the benefit of the improvements.
While we are talking about facility, what is it with the scoreboard, I believe the past 3 or 4 games in a row the scoreboard has freaked out and needed to get fixed, that is ridiculous for a new piece of equipment.
The Toyota Center is not perfect. Nor is any rink ever gonna be perfect. We're so hard on our facility that i'm sure if you critique any other rink in the league your going to find many things wrong with it. Spokanes rink is very nice, but they have one screen in which they have to take a long change two of three periods because of it. Would you like to have a nice big brick wall at one end of the rink? thats what Brandon and Lethbridge put up with. Swift currents rink has been redone but have you seen the roof? It looks like its 3000 years old. Moose Jaw...wow. They have seats on two sides of the rink, not on either of the ends and the roof comes within a meter (exagurated) of the ice surface. Calgary and Edmonton play out of NHL rinks that are very nice, but its hard to call a place home when its not truly your home. Plus, never been to a game in either of those buildings but i imagine it would sound pretty dead in such a big rink. The majority of the rinks around the league don't have video screens to advertise on, we should see that as more of a privelege.
Now the urinal thing is bad and is somethign that can and should have been fixed with little cost. I think if our maintenance staff took care of the toyota center a little better it could be seen as a nicer cleaner facility then it is.
Not sure where your getting the 30M to build a new rink. Seattle (Kent) just spent well over 70 million and their new barn holds only 300 more people then the Toy. If we build I'd what to see Kennewick go for a building that seats 8,000. I remember when one of the local Tri-City radio stations went to get Van Halen to play here. They did get them play in the northwest but they passed up on us (the ones that started the stink about getting them here in the first place) cause the Toy was too small and took their show to Spokane! I'm NOT going to vote for a new barn that is the same size as the one we have and look for different results. I too don't see us building one soon. If we took 25 million (1/3 of the Kent money)I bet we could fix the ADA, ice, broken chairs, humidifier, water treatment plant, AV equipment, get new lighting that can turn on and off quickly...... and more. (Yes I know HAF that you think we should still burn this one down) It is not a quick fix. I agree that the mens room issue is very bad and a easy fix. New nets are a easy fix.
It is just a bad time to push this issue of a new barn with how every thing is going right now.
Rock On AMS!
From worst to first I was there to see it happen!!! Im so damn proud of this team!
I was just throwing out a number and the prices here in tri aren't going to be as steep as over there, but hey I have an idea, now that the economy is down, maybe we can build it cheaper!!!! LOL In the long run it might just be best to fix the one we have, but I think it is going to have to be a 4 city wide initiative. The days of a single city handling a big project are probably long gone.
I still wish we would do a pool as has been tried so many times. It is truly needed, as well as an updated and repaired/maintained Toyota Center. I think that would be something the community would come together for if the politicians would give it a try!!!
Putting 25 million into the Toy for fixer upper stuff equates to putting lipstick on a pig. Face it, the builing is old, out of date, and the community is so much bigger now that a new facility is needed. Not just for hockey, but many other events that it will be used for. The tourism $ it will bring in would only bolster the area financial situation. Many economists say we need to prepare for something besides the Hanford complex as a economy driver, so this would be one way to prepare for that. Also, selfishly speaking, a new arena would be a great recruiting tool for players and families that are considering joining the team we all cheer for. It would also guarantee the team as a fixture in the Tri-Cities for the long term.