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Portland

June 27 2010 at 9:38 AM
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I could see the raw talent they had on the ice but good god!
They are going to be tough this season!

1 4 4 CBJ RYAN JOHANSEN C CA 6' 2" 192 WHL PORTLAND
1 5 5 NYI NINO NIEDERREITER RW CH 6' 2" 201 WHL PORTLAND
2 13 43 TOR BRADLEY ROSS LW CA 6' 0" 175 WHL PORTLAND
3 18 78 NSH TAYLOR ARONSON D US 6' 0" 196 WHL PORTLAND
5 17 137 COL TROY RUTKOWSKI D CA 6' 2" 208 WHL PORTLAND
5 19 139 COL LUKE WALKER RW US 6' 1" 174 WHL PORTLAND
7 11 191 CHI MACMILLIAN CARRUTH G US 6' 2" 169 WHL PORTLAND
7 28 208 BUF RILEY BOYCHUK LW CA 6' 4" 210 WHL PORTLAND

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Look Good on Paper

June 27 2010, 3:13 PM 

Yeah I agree they look real good on paper, and also had a good season last year, and winning in the playoffs. But Spokane has had a lot of talent the last 2 years on paper and had sub-par seasons based on the perceived talent level. So I think I will wait to give them the division title until they earn it on the ice!

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Re: Look Good on Paper

June 27 2010, 5:24 PM 

Lets not forget that the AMS also had their number big time this past season.
We will have to remember that PDX was also a year younger and had very little playoff experience. With 8 going in the draft and the noise they made in the playoffs they will be playing with confidence this season. I'm not handing them the banner but I'm going to keep my eye on them this season.

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Still can't believe Carruth was drafted

June 27 2010, 5:34 PM 

He has more holes than the Titanic. You never know, Johansen and Niederreiter could stick with the two teams that selected them, thus hurting Portland. I am still not convinced their goaltending is enough to push them into the top of the division.

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Discipline

June 27 2010, 10:52 PM 

Portland's main weakness last season was discipline. It takes special coaching leadership to control thoroughbreds who feel rules are for somebody else. Those kind of players will win and lose a lot of games, depending on whether their extraordinary passion can be harnessed.

Tri-city's small and fast team last year pressed buttons, resulting in a great win to loss ratio mostly on the basis of extra powerplay time. Although the team chemistry will be different I don't see why this can't happen again.

I'm not sure the Portland coaching staff will be able to figure this out in time.

 
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Re: Discipline

June 28 2010, 8:59 AM 

Portland will be solid, not doubt. However IMO having 8 guys drafted is also in part because they were noticed more by scouts. What i mean is that Portland had scouts going to watch Johanson and Nino a lot last year.............it probably didn't hurt other hawks players as they also got a lot more exposure. Not saying the guys drafted didn't deserve it, but exposure and getting noticed is a big deal in this case.


 
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"exposure"

June 29 2010, 8:59 AM 

If exposure were it then 1/3 of our boys would have been taken.

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Re: "exposure"

June 29 2010, 10:44 AM 

could be. But a lot of good players on our team are on the small side, which hurts. Not sure why Messier didn't get picked up, but i'm guessing we will see a handful of Ams go to camps as FA's.

 
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Re: "exposure"

June 29 2010, 1:11 PM 

Exposure does matter and perhaps travel difficulties to get in to Tri. From an exosure stand point look at the Giants. They have so many scouts at every game its crazy and thus a ton of them get drafted (and in some cases a bit over-rated.

 
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Exposure

July 4 2010, 4:19 PM 



The Ams have a terrible track record when it comes to getting players drafted, and I agree it comes down to "exposure". I'm shocked based on the success of the team, in particular, over the past 4 years that more guys haven't been drafted or picked up as free agent signings. Messier, given his size, decent stats, and bloodlines is a real surprise. Shinny had 82 points, a strong playoff and how he gets overlooked is another real head shaker same go's for Feser.. I know he's not overly big but if he played in a "hockey market" like Calgary, Kelowna, I'm sure it would be different. Who knows maybe these guys will go to a camp, turn a few heads and get a contract signed.

 
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What about Drew?

July 5 2010, 6:13 AM 

Better numbers than virtually every goaltender that drafted this year. Better numbers than the other goaltender on the team that drafted to the NHL last year. I know he's small but he stops the puck. Can't believe that there isn't an NHL team taking a look.

 
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Re: What about Drew?

July 6 2010, 10:35 AM 

Size is the issue. If he would have had a better final, maybe someone would have taken a chance and took him late.

He'll probably get an invite to a camp as a FA this year. Who knows, if he has another good year next season, maybe some team will take a chance.

 
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Out of 21 tenders taken

July 6 2010, 1:54 PM 

in the 2010 draft, only 1 is under 6 feet tall. Same in 2009, of 23 taken in 2008, only 3 were under 6 foot. Owsley was also a product of the team in front of him as well. Unfortunately, 5'9" guys don't get much of a shot.

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Really?

July 6 2010, 2:21 PM 

Product of the team in front of him? Averaged over 30 shots against per game? Not many draft picks on the team in front of him? The 2 that just drafted aren't defensive specialists. Was last year's roster any better than the roster in front of Chet for 2 years? Sorry NYR, don't agree with you. Our whole team overachieved last year, give credit where credit is due. Drew was a big part of last year's success. If he wasn't, then Pechurskiy's numbers would have been better than Drew's.

 
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Another reason he wasn't drafted

July 6 2010, 3:36 PM 

NHL is going to a new formula where goaltender's pads can't be over 55% of the height of the man, so little guys will really get no shot now because they can't cover as much of the net. There was a reason 6'3" Carey Price was chosen over 5 foot nothing Jaroslav Halak. So you are telling me the Americans having the 4th best GAA in the league has nothing to do with team defense and all to do with Owsley? He isn't going anywhere higher after junior.

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Higher

July 6 2010, 6:25 PM 

The kid going no "higher" than junior got us "higher" than we've ever been. 4 first stars in the conference finals. Leads the WHL in post season save percentage. Holds off an NHL draft pick for the number 1 job. Does that make him a pro? No, but should it give him a shot at the next level? YES!

 
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And fell off the face of the earth in the league final

July 6 2010, 7:07 PM 

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uhhhh

July 6 2010, 7:28 PM 

your whole team fell off the face of the earth in the finals by my eye...name one player who played good?!?!?

 
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Re: uhhhh

July 7 2010, 9:27 AM 

Geez, isn't the title of this thread "Portland"? lol

While i agree most of our team didn't play well (could have been more of the hitties just being a lot better) i would argue that Yuen, Shinniman, and Reddick all played well in the finals. Those 3 brought it every night IMO...........but obviously you need more than 3 guys to play hard/well.

If i had to guess, i would say Drew will end up going the college route after the W (ala Lazo, Toll). That's the cool thing about the CHL, every year of service get's you a free year of school. While size shouldn't always matter, it does in this case.

 
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Re: uhhhh

July 7 2010, 11:58 AM 

You could be right about Owsley, may just be a university guy...I don't know if he compares to Martin Jones who is a legitemate NHL prospect

And personally I don't see where your argument of Shinimin coming every night is coming from. For somebody who was your leading scorer I thought I was going to see a player who made a difference every night, I'd be interested in seeing his stats for the finals...

 
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Re: uhhhh

July 7 2010, 12:43 PM 

no one had good stats for the Ams in the finals. Shinniman worked hard and probably had the most scoring opportunities of an Am in the finals.......he just couldn't finish.

Jones plays well, but seems to lack consistency at times. His size definitely makes him a NHL prospect, but personally i see him as a NHL back up at best.

 
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