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October 7 2001 at 5:57 PM
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I own a Living Water Machine from inventor John Ellis and have spoken to him on a few occasions and might be able to answer some questions. I found this site by accident and I'm not sure if it's still active but I have an interest in pure water treatment methods and machines available to consumers. So if anyone wants to talk, drop me an email.

 
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living water machine

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November 4 2001, 3:52 PM 

I'm very interested in knowing the results with your Living Water machine. I had seen it on various websites, then today saw a full page add in te Washington Times Weekend Edition.

I'd appreciate if you could email me with how you feel it is benefiting you. It surprises me to hear them say that regular distillers are no good!

Thanks,

harold

 
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Living Water Machine

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January 18 2002, 12:18 PM 

I have read some ads and claims for the Living Water Machine and it all sounds to good to be true. Any info on your experience with the machine would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Galen Fitzgerald

 
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regarding living water machine

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January 28 2002, 10:27 AM 

Hello,
I live in New Jersey and grew up right in the middle of what is now known as the "cancer cluster" in Toms River.

I started a website which basically is going to
make the machine available to people in my area since
the machine is hard to come by and tricky to service.
Also it will give people a chance to see it in action. You can read my account on my website www.sciencewater.com Soon I will be showing it in action and showing the results of my tests and experiments with plant growth.

Now, as far as what I've come to find out....

I received a bunch of interesting promotional material
when I first bought the machine about 5 years ago and
a lot of it seemed far fetched. As I used the
machine, and learned about testing water for purity
etc, I started to authenticate a lot of the claims.

Water distillers are not patentable. This machine has
several patents. Checking the patents online proved
that the machine does what John Ellis told me it did
as far as the methods. Then came the purity claims.
The literature came with signed certificates from EPA
approved labs showing actual machine tests in real
world conditions beating out more expensive distillers
from Corning and Durastil. I also called Better
Business before ordering from the company and they had
no complaints on file. I bought a couple of handheld
conductivity meters by Hanna, to test dissolved solids
and began doing my own tests. My tap water has an
average of 125ppm total solids and after being through
the machine it read 0 on one meter, so I had to use
the other meter which tests ultra pure water and it
read 0.2 ppm. consistantly! I am currently in contact
with a research chemist who uses this same machine and
I hope to find out how to authenticate some of the
energizing claims that also come with this machine.
This chemist has used the water from this machine to
grow HUGE vegetables and various plants.

Then there's the tests I just can't explain. My mom
who is recovering from cancer uses this water, since I
bring it to her in 7 gallon glass bottles every two
weeks! She notices a huge difference over her filtered
water and can feel the difference and see it in her
skin tone. She has given it to friends without
telling them the source and they comment on the "good
water." My sister's baby never drinks water at his
house and he was over my moms asking to refill his
glass three times. ( ironically, I just read that
babies, and fresh fruits and vegetables have the
largest amount of structured water.) Adults have to
replenish their supply from fresh fruits and vegetables and properly structured water I suppose.

I took in two abandoned kittens,
started them on healthy cat food I order on the
internet and of course the water I make at home. Both
kittens and my wife's cat drink more water then ever
now. And they are thriving without any health issues. In fact I can yell "WATER" before filling
their bowl and my one kitten will run to the bowl
every time to get to it first. I swear I'm going to
video that. All three cats drink this water aggressively and in a taste test along side a bowl of New Jersey tap water, my one cat drank the living water and began to clean his paws with the tap. Strange but true.

Lately I've been getting responses from my wife's
clients (she's a certified massage therapist
www.ahmassage.com) and so far it's all been highly
positive. What's interesting is that the comments are
not just "hmmm tastes good" it's more like "wow, this
is really good water." I also tested the water from a
spa where my wife works and the "pure" water they sell
has more dissolved solids in it then the water I can
make. All solids wont hurt you, but I just don't feel
good about seeing more of them in my drinking water.
As for any bacteria that can survive the boiling point
(which there are types of bacteria doing just that)
this machine uses an autoclaving approach. The two
industrial strengh heaters come out of the water three
times a minute frying anything that could possible
survive boiling. I happen to like that feature.
Ordinary distillers are under tremendous steam
pressure and you have "blow over" causing you to end
up drinking what you were trying to remove. This
doesn't happen with the Living Water Machine.

John Ellis has newer variations of his invention. Over
the years it went from ...Wonder Water, to The Living
Water Machine, Electron 3, Electron 4. The Electron 3
is a Living Water Machine with an ozone bulb which is
reported to help those who use oxygen for therapy.
It's reported that the water from that machine can
bring oxygen levels in people higher as proven by
oximeter tests. The Electron 4 uses a quartz crystal
of some sort and I am just starting to learn what that
could be all about. I still have a lot of verifying
to do, but it's like a hobby. And besides, no one
really knows everything about the amazing properties
of water.

My honest impression is that John Ellis is an inventor
who has legitimately come up with a device that does
some amazing things. Claims he's made seemed alien to
me a few years ago, but have since either checked out
or made sense as I study unrelated published articles
in scientific studies, as well as basic principles.
He has interesting qualifications such as having an
engineering degree in steam plant design, so it's safe
to assume he knows a little bit about his products.
He's 70 years old now and still answers his own phone
when you call and will explain his procedures to you
if you are interested and I would guess at this point
if all this was a bunch of hype, he'd be shut down.

I hope this gives you more info. I would be interested in seeing any ads that are in the news papers since I have never seen them.
Also, if you notice on the websites that sell the
machine that all the language sounds the same, it's
because it's copied word for word from the original
literature that Ellis sends out with his machines. I
have basically the same thing on my site but I try not
to copy it word for word. It's all done with the
permission of John Ellis since he allows his dealers
to use all the literature. As for me, I am just
getting it together to make people in my area aware of
this machine and since I have been using it for about 5 years, I know how it comes apart, cleans etc.

Feel free to ask any more questions you may have. I'm
more interested in discussing and comparing thoughts
and seeing people get an explanation as well as
restore their health then I am in selling something.

Regards,

David

website: www.sciencewater.com



 
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Liveing Water machine

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February 4 2003, 8:57 PM 

Hi, I have been looking into John Ellis' Living water machine myself. I don't have any scientific info but it seems to me to be the best of the bunch. I am interested in the effects it has on plants, all the info says it great, but can you adjust the Ph without taking away the benefits of the "energy" that has been put into it? Any Info you could provide about this would be greatly appreciated.

Also I tried to go to your website, WWW.Waterscience.com but could not connect, Is it there?

Thanks,

Kevin


 
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Side Effects

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October 20 2003, 7:33 AM 

I bought a gallon of this water to try it for my self. While the water definitely tasted better than my Big Berkley filtered water, I am still not sure one gallon of water could convince me to spend $1500 to $1700 on a machine to produce it. I do have some questions regarding this water. My wife tried some of this water and she started breaking out in a rash on her legs and arms. Not a bad rash like poison oak but there was some irritation and itchiness. Could it be a coincidence? Is she having a reaction to the water in a good way or a bad way? Could the water actually be cleaning out toxins in her body? Do you have any insights on her reactions to the water?

Thanks for any information you may have.

Earl

 
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side effects question...your wife's rash

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November 13 2003, 11:06 PM 

I was just thumbing through as I contemplate buying one of these machines. I think I have an answer about the rash. Just as MSM or Niacin can cause the skin to rash due to increased cell membraine permiability, then this water (if it does indeed pass more easily through cell membranes) may have jump started the process of flushing toxins from cells that had been building up there. So long as it doesn't worsen and goes away in a week, I think this is an indication of a good thing. I am supremely interested in buying one of these, but wold really like some more info. Can you email me about your experience with the machine to date and let me know what results you have seen?


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Living Water Machine

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January 25 2002, 9:18 AM 

Thank you for offering to share your experience using John Ellis' Living Water Machine.

I am seriously considering buying one; however, it would be of great benefit to understand what the benefits are from someone that has used it.

Please describe the benefits you have received so far.

If you would like, I have some links to other water type products that I will email to you.

Thanks in advance!

Dennis Overton

 
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regarding the living water machine

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January 28 2002, 10:31 AM 

Hello,
I live in New Jersey and grew up right in the middle of what is now known as the "cancer cluster" in Toms River.

I started a website which basically is going to
make the machine available to people in my area since
the machine is hard to come by and tricky to service.
Also it will give people a chance to see it in action. You can read my account on my website www.sciencewater.com Soon I will be showing it in action and showing the results of my tests and experiments with plant growth.

Now, as far as what I've come to find out....

I received a bunch of interesting promotional material
when I first bought the machine about 5 years ago and
a lot of it seemed far fetched. As I used the
machine, and learned about testing water for purity
etc, I started to authenticate a lot of the claims.

Water distillers are not patentable. This machine has
several patents. Checking the patents online proved
that the machine does what John Ellis told me it did
as far as the methods. Then came the purity claims.
The literature came with signed certificates from EPA
approved labs showing actual machine tests in real
world conditions beating out more expensive distillers
from Corning and Durastil. I also called Better
Business before ordering from the company and they had
no complaints on file. I bought a couple of handheld
conductivity meters by Hanna, to test dissolved solids
and began doing my own tests. My tap water has an
average of 125ppm total solids and after being through
the machine it read 0 on one meter, so I had to use
the other meter which tests ultra pure water and it
read 0.2 ppm. consistantly! I am currently in contact
with a research chemist who uses this same machine and
I hope to find out how to authenticate some of the
energizing claims that also come with this machine.
This chemist has used the water from this machine to
grow HUGE vegetables and various plants.

Then there's the tests I just can't explain. My mom
who is recovering from cancer uses this water, since I
bring it to her in 7 gallon glass bottles every two
weeks! She notices a huge difference over her filtered
water and can feel the difference and see it in her
skin tone. She has given it to friends without
telling them the source and they comment on the "good
water." My sister's baby never drinks water at his
house and he was over my moms asking to refill his
glass three times. ( ironically, I just read that
babies, and fresh fruits and vegetables have the
largest amount of structured water.) Adults have to
replenish their supply from fresh fruits and vegetables and properly structured water I suppose.

I took in two abandoned kittens,
started them on healthy cat food I order on the
internet and of course the water I make at home. Both
kittens and my wife's cat drink more water then ever
now. And they are thriving without any health issues. In fact I can yell "WATER" before filling
their bowl and my one kitten will run to the bowl
every time to get to it first. I swear I'm going to
video that. All three cats drink this water aggressively and in a taste test along side a bowl of New Jersey tap water, my one cat drank the living water and began to clean his paws with the tap. Strange but true.

Lately I've been getting responses from my wife's
clients (she's a certified massage therapist
www.ahmassage.com) and so far it's all been highly
positive. What's interesting is that the comments are
not just "hmmm tastes good" it's more like "wow, this
is really good water." I also tested the water from a
spa where my wife works and the "pure" water they sell
has more dissolved solids in it then the water I can
make. All solids wont hurt you, but I just don't feel
good about seeing more of them in my drinking water.
As for any bacteria that can survive the boiling point
(which there are types of bacteria doing just that)
this machine uses an autoclaving approach. The two
industrial strengh heaters come out of the water three
times a minute frying anything that could possible
survive boiling. I happen to like that feature.
Ordinary distillers are under tremendous steam
pressure and you have "blow over" causing you to end
up drinking what you were trying to remove. This
doesn't happen with the Living Water Machine.

John Ellis has newer variations of his invention. Over
the years it went from ...Wonder Water, to The Living
Water Machine, Electron 3, Electron 4. The Electron 3
is a Living Water Machine with an ozone bulb which is
reported to help those who use oxygen for therapy.
It's reported that the water from that machine can
bring oxygen levels in people higher as proven by
oximeter tests. The Electron 4 uses a quartz crystal
of some sort and I am just starting to learn what that
could be all about. I still have a lot of verifying
to do, but it's like a hobby. And besides, no one
really knows everything about the amazing properties
of water.

My honest impression is that John Ellis is an inventor
who has legitimately come up with a device that does
some amazing things. Claims he's made seemed alien to
me a few years ago, but have since either checked out
or made sense as I study unrelated published articles
in scientific studies, as well as basic principles.
He has interesting qualifications such as having an
engineering degree in steam plant design, so it's safe
to assume he knows a little bit about his products.
He's 70 years old now and still answers his own phone
when you call and will explain his procedures to you
if you are interested and I would guess at this point
if all this was a bunch of hype, he'd be shut down.

I hope this gives you more info. I would be interested in seeing any ads that are in the news papers since I have never seen them.
Also, if you notice on the websites that sell the
machine that all the language sounds the same, it's
because it's copied word for word from the original
literature that Ellis sends out with his machines. I
have basically the same thing on my site but I try not
to copy it word for word. It's all done with the
permission of John Ellis since he allows his dealers
to use all the literature. As for me, I am just
getting it together to make people in my area aware of
this machine and since I have been using it for about 5 years, I know how it comes apart, cleans etc.

Feel free to ask any more questions you may have. I'm
more interested in discussing and comparing thoughts
and seeing people get an explanation as well as
restore their health then I am in selling something.

Regards,

David

website: www.sciencewater.com



 
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Donna

Appreciate your Efforts-looking for pH tests and conductivity

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February 7 2002, 6:06 PM 

I found your observations and tests helpful. I am interested myself in the Living Water Maching and the further variations generating ozone (electron 3-4). I wish I were an expert, but I am a confused researcher. I am understanding that high frequency ozone generators product nitrogen byproducts and a positively charged ion (which is not necessarily good) and that quartz crystal ozone machines avoid this byproduct and product a negatively charged ion which has a beneficial effect (but the electron 3 is only 120 volts so I dont know that that would constitute a high frequency.

My question concerns the pH of the water produced. In a test I saw the ph was 5.7 (acid) and I am clearly getting that the body is struggling to achieve the balance of neutral (7). I am wondering if anyone has done any pH tests. In other words, with test strips, testing their pH before and after the use of the water. Drinking alkaline water raises the pH, however, with such a unique product as Mr. Ellis has created I don't want to assume that drinking his acid pH water necessarily produces an acid pH. Anyone check this out?

The other thing is conductivity, which you touched on, I have seen some tests and conductivity was reported as .10 and a competitor product .15 but I don't know if this conductivity is the "proper charge" that he is speaking of, or the energy field. So I am just at a loss, but anyone having any info on this, or any tests you have done would certainly be further appreciated. It's a complicating subject, but a vital one I believe. Thanks for your efforts.

 
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PH level and more tests

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February 11 2002, 10:01 AM 

Hi Donna,

I read your post and here is what I know regarding your comments. I, too, am a confused researcher when it comes to all of this and that's half the fun. As far as I'm concerned the "Experts" are from traditional science and alternative science. And they are both at odds. Good luck finding open minded, unbiased opinions. But they do exist!

As far as the ozone is concerned, I think that the bulb that's in the boiling chamber of the machine is there to help purify the water. The machine that I have (The Living Water Machine) doesn't have this but it has an activated charcoal filter which, believe it or not, when I opened it after 2 years of use was still as fresh looking as the day I bought it...no scale build up or anything else unusual in there.
So I was at least confident the machine was removing stuff before it got to that filter.

If the ozone bulb is producing positive ions and the quartz counteracts that, the only way I guess you can really tell is to measure it somehow...but that's the thing....How? To authenticate the level of ions, you would need a quality ion meter ( $700 ) And there's always the question of how does the human body react regardless of the presence or absence of a particular ion, or particular level of oxygen. Traditional science and alternative science are completely at odds regarding all of this. I have no experience with the ozone/quartz water machines...but I do know that those machines no longer use the stainless steel activated carbon filters, so I am assuming that the ozone could be a way of purifying the water more efficiently. I'm not sure how you could check quartz's ability to counteract positive ions with negative, and for that matter how to authenticate it's worth either way, but I am looking into how quartz crystal has been used in drinking water over the years so maybe I'll learn something about that.

I have tested the water machine's PH. I used an Oaktron handheld PH tester and my tap water was about 8.0 and the water that came through the machine was 6.7 . I haven't checked it in awhile, but I do remember those numbers from when I did test it a few months ago.

As far as conductivity, I start out with tap water reading 120 parts per million. The very first pint out of the machine is about 0.8 ppm. Last week I decided to experiment and I took off the post carbon filter to recondition it. So I was running the machine without the carbon filter and got a consistent reading of 0.12 ppm. So it is definately taking out a whole lot of something. Now, the interesting part is that this water is still biologically active. I put a few soybeans in a bowl with only this water and they starting sprouting and growing like crazy. Apple seeds too. I am still working on more controlled side by side studies. But how do I know it has the "proper charge" as you ask? Well that's where it goes beyond what I can test. But the real question is what good can properly charged water do? Can it energize people, pets, plants? How can that energy be measured? The second you start getting into authenticating water's energy and how to measure it, you will always start an argument between traditional science and alternative. I just got a letter from Dr. Keith Thomson who was kind enough to answer some of these questions from a traditional science point of view. And if you or anyone else is interested in reading it, just email me and I will copy it and email it to you. The best I can personally do, is test for purity, and PH with equiptment I can afford and verify tests from reputable labs (at the manufacturers expense) As far as energy....my feeling at this point is controlled testing with plants and seeds which are known for pronounced root and stem growth.

Hope some of this helps....

David

 
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living water

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July 10 2003, 4:02 PM 

Sir:

I recently found the ellis website and must say i don't know what I think of it. If it so good why are more people using it and know about it.

Do you believe that it really works as good as mr. ellis states...

thanks

 
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Request for more information

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October 27 2003, 11:21 PM 

Hello David.
My name is Wade Bruntjen and I live in Calgary. I have recently discovered a fascination for the possible health benifits of structured water. If possible I would appreciate a copy of the responses you obtained from Dr. Kieth Thomson.
Thank you for any help you can provide.

Wade

 
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regarding copies of emails

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November 12 2003, 11:04 AM 

Wade,

email me direct..I can send you info

rovneyko@yahoo.com

 
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Re: regarding copies of emails

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August 15 2005, 6:55 AM 

Hi,
saw your responce to info regarding living machine, if you still have the info I would like a copy.

Thanks

Carmelo

 
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Letter

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August 15 2005, 6:49 AM 

Hi,
Sorry if it looks like after such a long time someone would be interesting in the letter from Dr Keith Thomson if you still have it I would like a copy. I just ordered the living water machine electron 4 and any information would help.

Thanks

Carmelo

 
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John Ellis livig water machine

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July 30 2003, 10:39 PM 

Greetings,

I have been reading alot about the electron 4 living water machine. It seems at the very least it delivers clean distilled water.

If the machine does all the other stuff it claims to do then it will be truly amazing.

How is your Health? You have have been drinking the water for 5 years now.

How difficult is the machine to operate and maintain? what are your expereinces with the older model? Any problems or things people should know about?

You can email me at dascolli@aristotle.net

Thank you for your time,

Dave Scolli

 
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Answers?

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December 21 2003, 7:37 PM 

Am looking for any additional information on the Ellis water machine as we would like to order if IF we can find favorable info from people who has used the machine.

Thanks and Merry Christmas!

Jeanette

 
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Ellis water machine

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February 1 2003, 2:43 PM 

I am very interested in finding out more about this machine. Please email me.
Thanks,
Barry

 
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info on living water

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July 10 2003, 3:57 PM 

please send me information on this machine. can you get a gallon from some where to test the water????

thanks

 
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email me directly

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November 10 2003, 9:13 AM 

rovneyko@yahoo.com

 
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Answers?

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December 21 2003, 7:34 PM 

Hi,

We've been looking at Crystal Water for some time and was wondering if you had obtained any additional information than what's on the web-site.

Thanks

Jeanette

 
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Energized water

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October 28 2003, 10:51 AM 

Hi, I was thinking of buying one of John Ellis's water machines to help my sister, who got hepatitis c from tainted blood when she had surgery. My parents also have a well that needs some of his water, if it works. Do you feel any different when you drink this water? I am wanting to know if I can buy a gallon from you so I can get an idea what it is I would be getting. God bless, Bob.

 
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living water response

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November 10 2003, 9:11 AM 

Hi Bob,
First, sorry for the delay in replying, just email me directly at rovneyko@yahoo.com I do what I can as a hobby helping others with this machine etc. I am sorry to hear about your sister. As for buying water from me, if only you were a neighbor I would just give it to you....you're not in New Jersey by any chance are you? I tried a couple of years ago but ups won't ship water and it isn't really practical as far as I know.

Get back to me at my email and I will answer specifics for you.

Thanks,

David

 
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Re: Ellis: Liviing Water Machine

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March 2 2005, 8:19 AM 

I am interested in Ellis water machine.
Does it really work?
do you recommended it?

hav any info?

appreciate anything you will send

Buck Owens
ruidoso, New Mexico

 
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Re: Ellis: Liviing Water Machine

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August 15 2005, 6:52 AM 

Hi,
Saw your respond to living water machine with a date of /05. If you have received any responce please forward it to me. I just purchesed a machine.

Thanks

Carmelo

 
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requesting info on John Ellis H2O machines

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April 5 2005, 6:40 PM 


Hi,
I usually live in Colorado, am currently visiting in Vermont and have
very limited funds. I was thinking of calling John and requesting to come
down to Westbrookville to learn more about his machines and possibly see
about my marketing his machines, if I felt they were genuine and beneficial.
Before doing that, I am attempting to collect information from hopefully
unbiased, outside sources. I would greatly appreciate any information you
could give me, possibly including other possible sources of the information
I am seeking.
Again, thank you.

May all beings be happy and at their ease.

Respectfully & Cordially,
Brian.

 
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Living water machine

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August 14 2005, 7:48 PM 

Hi,
Just put in an order for the water machine & would like to know if you found the results from using the machine as good as everyone claims. The reports look real good but are they true.

Thanks

Carmine

 
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September 17 2009, 4:16 AM 

I have been a recipient of the run off water for 3 years now from the LWM5. and recently the man loaned me his unit until returns in October.

I would like to try and explain the effect that the John Ellis Water machines have on water. I went to the US patent site and read all patents associated to the John Ellis machine it does not take a rocket scientist to understand the associated patents written by scientist who discovered how to purify water. John Ellis simply made a small machine that does what the scientist discovered.

the UV will kill and sterilize any water that is exposed to it. But that is not the sole purpose in the Machine. the purpose is to create a pure distilled water without the normal memory markers in water. You see not all distilled water is without memory markers disease and no distiller produces absolutely pure water. the John Ellis machine produce a water purity level of 00.06 to 00.02EC, and the average home distiller produces 01.40 to 00.02EC, I used an electrical device used by water purification companies to check the water. while the device does not tell you what is in the water it only check the electrical conductivity of the water. basically it just gives an indicator of the waters mineral dissolution levels that conduct the electrical current. that means my deep well water which registers a high 564.4EC may not have any harmful chemicals but has a large amounts of dissolved iron, copper, zinc, calcium, magnesium, salt and other minerals etc.

Touching the UV radiation, in the boiling chamber the steam is exposed to a certain level of UV radiation that converts the steam to Ozone, when the Ozone is cooled in the distillation tubes it converts back to water with trace Hydrogen Peroxide which is what ozone turns to naturally when cooled, Even rain water has trace levels of Hydrogen Peroxide naturally, this makes the water Pathogen free. this is why the water works against cancers no pathogens. also explains why nothing will grow in the water for some time after the distilled water has been stored in bottles.

The bond angle of water has been found to be lessened when pollutants are added to the water, the maximum natural water bond angle is actually 104.45 and some believe it can't be changed. However when shown the difference in a water sample from John Ellis machine they are surprised. Then someone came up with the solution as to why. the hydrogen peroxide and Ozone traces found in the water have wider bond angles that affects the water molecule. Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2 has a bond angle of 111.5 and Ozone O3 has a bond angle of 116.8.

Something else quite unique and observable is waters natural molecular shape is bent, but after the distilling it seems to be more biometric angular as that of H2O2 and O3. it would seem that the water takes on some of the traits of H2O2 and O3 structures. this would answer the question of why the distilled product will form columns, crevices and mountains when frozen. I have had the water form ice peaks in my freezer.

Added together the properties of the wider bond angles can be attributed to the other two trace elements used to create the product. I have not gotten any verification from a Chemist as to the molecular structure of the product but it is still a form of water. it is not dangerous to drink as a matter of fact it has been found healthy is many cases.

Also the machine excites water by centrifugal effect by stirring the water at a high rate of speed. What I have learned when water is excited it becomes H2O+ (positively charge Oxygen)when the water molecule is in this state it can combined at a atomic level easier with other molecules like the H2O2 and O3. thought this is very hard to observe scientifically. But when water is excited it becomes H2O+. I am not sure how it all works but here is a quote from a scientist as to what I tried to say simply and clear, "the solvated electron can recombine with the H2O+ cation to form an excited state of the water, this excited state then decomposes to species such as hydroxyl radicals (HO.), hydrogen atoms (H.) and oxygen atoms (O.). Finally, the solvated electron can react with solutes H2O2 and O3 and the solvated protons and then reform the hydrogen oxygen atoms."

Another factor the water being treated is heated to very hot temperatures and switched back and forth to a cooler chamber, this is known as the equilibrium thermodynamic system that is the E5. Now heating the water to great temperatures and then passing it back and forth from one chamber to a cooler chamber and back again this is what causes the water to be able to take on different characteristics of the H2O2 and O3 without becoming either. the equilibrium is done by a certain amount of pressure exerted on the water molecules as they are heated in the boiling chamber then when pressure is to strong it causes the water and mixed gases to pass each other in the tube and cooling chamber the gases of O3 and H2O2 are intermixed in the water and it is this P=KC constant (P=Pressure, K=Kelvin or temp and C=concentration of gases) that works a reaction in the water. I don't understand it all yet but I am still researching about it. it is exciting stuff to say the least.

also see John Ellis own web site under "how does it work" he will tell you how the machine works.

At this point I feel I must make this Disclaimer, this is my own opinion and theory as to how John Ellis machine affects water, and not fully verified by the scientific community as I am neither a chemist or scientist. However I am no dummy either. Furthermore. this does not reflect on any opinion or theory of John Ellis, his family or his company as to why his product has a wider bond angle or its chemical components caused by hot to cooler chamber exchanges or UV radiation effects on water or steam. I do not know John Ellis or any of his family or business associates personally or professionally. But I wish I did.

These were just some of the few things I understood and observed about the functions of the machine, and as I sought to understand what these things actually did to the water it was amazing to see that a little machine could do so much. By the way I have not spoken to you about the chamber and tube sizes and some of the physical things that also attribute to the machines functionality and performance as all these factors contribute to the end product. I am still trying to find out more as to what effect the machine has on water.

But this I can say it lowered my blood cholesterol level, my blood pressure is lower, my heartbeat is lower, my stools are softer and more regular, my Kidney's and urinary tract stays clean and infection free, my little girl thinks I put sugar in the water (I think you all heard that one before), I let some flowers die in a vase filled with the water the flower completely rotted but the water stayed clean and odor free then I removed the remains of the flower and it took three months before moss grew in it, and the water did cause a strong reaction in my deep well. I had to pump the well clear which took four hours before we could drink it again.

I hope this article will help some of you understand the effects of the John Ellis Living Water machine has on water. And in so doing this may help you to make a decision as to your purchase of the best water distiller on the market. There are no other machines that I know of that do so much to the water as John Ellis living water machine.

 
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