If anybody saw the hit last night, what's your opinion.

To me, if this is a hit that warrants a suspension then we should really start looking at taking hitting out of the game.

Listening to the feed from Colorado, the one sportscaster makes notice of Olver's head snapping back, and therefore, should be considered a headshot.

Wow, what's going on, have gotten that soft, last time I checked hockey remains a contact sport.

I hear what you're saying regarding contact, however the Avalanche player was vulnerable and there was contact to the head. this is exactly the type of hit, ie. high risk of concussion and career ending, that they're trying to eliminate.

I disagree, that was a clean hit. Players need to learn to not put themselves into these positions. Hockey is a contact sport! If a guy like Komisarek allows people to walk around him all over the place because they are in a vulnerable position, he won't be in the league long.

dude, Komisarek knew full the guy wasn't watching and nailed him with a classic blindside hit. he could have just as easily as cut him off without destroying him. remember the HC "respect" theme? it's not just about CFB.

if that was your son out there sensely groping on the ice wandering to the wrong bench you'd sing a different tune, period.

here's the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS1AKRH5iVU

Komisarek lines him up (almost stalking him) then delivers a lethal blindside hit. as I said he could have just as easily have cut him off by muscling him off the puck. it's all about respect.

The only problem with this hit is that Komisarek is twice the size of the little Avalanche player....Komi doesn't jump, keeps his elbow in and simply drives through the player as he was taught. The Avalanche player's head "snapped" back because he did a stupid thing, looked back at a suicide pass....if he should be pissed, it should be at the bonehead teamate who made the pass and the fact he didn't keep his head up.

Blind side hit? You gotta be kidding me. If this is an illegal hit, then what isn't?

9:56, answer the following question honestly:

could Komisarek have impeded the progress of the clearly vulnerable Colorado player without trying to destroy him?

10:10, most hits the guy with the puck sees it coming.

10:16 Could he have impeded him "less physically?" Yes, absolutely, but that is not what players are taught all the way up through their minor hockey careers. You would get a reputation as a pussy.

Put it another way, in fottball as a defensive back if you see a receiver coming across the middle intent on catching the ball, you drill him hard, legally and within the rules. Period.

In both cases above, you are being paid to do your job and to do it well. If you don't you will definitely hear about it. It is the nature of a sport that is tough, physical and susceptible to injuries.

I played football, not hockey in university and I played knowing I could get hurt and accepted that. Why? Because I enjoyed the game tremendously in spite of the inherent risks to my health. Contact sports are inherently dangerous.

Again, there was nothing wrong with Komi's hit within the rules. Nothing.

I agree - good clean aggressive hit.

Fantastic, clean good hit rate 10/10

This is called great hockey

10:26, I like a good hard physical game too. however the consensus is that the time has come to end hits to unsuspecting, vulnerable players. that's the point.

you rambled on about football although you may have missed out on the intiatives in the NFL to eliminate hits to the head (a major no no) and more recently hits to defenseless and unsuspecting players are coming under greater scrutiny.

it was a blindside hit, period.

Whatever, you see this and I see that. You clearly have never played a contact sport going 100 mph, expecting large men like komi to adjust on the fly based on discrepancy in height and weight....talking out of your ass my friend.

Based on the rules as they are written, the hit was legal. I bet if you asked the Avalanche kid after he reviewed the replay, he would agree.

By your logic, there should be no contact any more.

He hit the guy from the frontside. Clean, hard hit. The kind I love in football and hockey. And before you motherhood me...my kid has been on both sides of that kind of hit.

Here’s what Avs coach Joe Sacco said of the hit: “From what I saw, it looked like it was a good hit. Obviously, you have to have ice awareness, when the puck’s coming through the middle. He’s a smaller guy
remember, too, and losing him didn’t help because he’s been playing very well for us.”

"Whatever, you see this and I see that. You clearly have never played a contact sport going 100 mph, expecting large men like komi to adjust on the fly based on discrepancy in height and weight....talking out of your ass my friend."
> the classic N54 retort: "You clearly have never played a contact sport". the trump card of the hockey illuminati. way too funny!!! I have and it's 25 to 35 mph, and the point is that Komisarek had time to ease up.


"Based on the rules as they are written, the hit was legal. I bet if you asked the Avalanche kid after he reviewed the replay, he would agree."
> you've missed the fact that Komisarek shoulder made contact with his face. it's a headshot.


"By your logic, there should be no contact any more."
> I stated that hits to unsuspecting, vulnerable players should are wrong.

it's possible that maybe you've read about this in the paper or perhaps heard hockey analysts and sportscasters discussing it on TV recently? it's not my idea. it's an issue that's being currently addressed due to the serious injuries incurred and health issues post hockey/sports. you have interpreted this concept incorrectly and used your own faulty logic to arrive at your conclusion: "there should be no contact any more." so who's talking out their ass?

"Whatever, you see this and I see that. You clearly have never played a contact sport going 100 mph, expecting large men like komi to adjust on the fly based on discrepancy in height and weight....talking out of your ass my friend."
> the classic N54 retort: "You clearly have never played a contact sport". the trump card of the hockey illuminati. way too funny!!! I have and it's 25 to 35 mph, and the point is that Komisarek had time to ease up.


"Based on the rules as they are written, the hit was legal. I bet if you asked the Avalanche kid after he reviewed the replay, he would agree."
> you've missed the fact that Komisarek shoulder made contact with his face. it's a headshot.


"By your logic, there should be no contact any more."
> I stated that hits to unsuspecting, vulnerable players should are wrong.

it's possible that maybe you've read about this in the paper or perhaps heard hockey analysts and sportscasters discussing it on TV recently? it's not my idea. it's an issue that's being currently addressed due to the serious injuries incurred and health issues post hockey/sports. you have interpreted this concept incorrectly and used your own faulty logic to arrive at your conclusion: "there should be no contact any more." so who's talking out their ass?

Posting twice doesn't make your twisted logic any more valid. See previous Aves coach Joe Sacco's comments and suck it up buttercup.

11:08, watch the vid again. Komisarek more than lined him up, he stalked the guy and nailed him.

you have agreed that the Colorado player was unsuspecting and that Komisarek could have eased up. his shoulder makes contact with his face, which results in his concussion. these are the facts.

this type of hit is exactly the problem and shows the lack of respect on offending player's part. everyone talks about it and people don't like to see kids get hurt, although it doesn't sound like they're willing to change their mindset. until then more players and kids get hurt and risk their post hockey quality of life. that's not mothering, it's the truth.

11:36, the issue has people in the hockey world divided.

as for the duplicate, sorry it shocked your delicate sensibilities to the point that you took it much harder and somewhat personally the second time. it was not intended as such - it was a glitch/error if you can imagine that type of thing happening.

Stalking him?!? Now you're going over the deep end.

Komisarek is 6"4' and Olver 5"10', perhaps by your logic they should outlaw all players 6"0" and above so that these "catstrophic" hits do not occur to players of Olver's height. Wow.

Komisarek literally would have had to have been squatting when he made contact so as to avoid contacting Olver's head.

Come on, fess up have you ever played contact sports at a competitive level? Do you not agree that Olver at his size knowingly plays the game understanding he could get injured based merely on sheer physics?

watch the vid. he was bearing in on him just waiting for puck to arrive, then plastered him.

as for this quantum leap of logic:

"Come on, fess up have you ever played contact sports at a competitive level? Do you not agree that Olver at his size knowingly plays the game understanding he could get injured based merely on sheer physics?"

I have. and have been both a deliverer and recipient. it's just hockey right? how about you? have you suffered an on ice concussion where every 2 minutes you're repeating yourself, asking where you are and know very little about yourself? until you've suffered or witnessed first hand a grade 1 concussion, even a grade 2 one, I don't think you'll understand the rhetoric of "sheer physics" that your preaching.

He was bearing down on him because that is where the puck was going, isn't that what a d-man is supposed to do?

Yes, I have certainly had concussions in football, not in hockey......hit so hard by an all-canadian linebacker that my entire right side was on fire for half an hour......got my bell rung in a game quite a few times, but guess what, I was certainly not the biggest but chose to continue playing knowing in a full contact sport, SHIT happens, both legal and illegal. I accepted the consequences, made damn sure I always, always had my head on a swivel and carried on. The results in future years will be mine to bear, just like everyone else who decides to play a full contact sport at the competitive level.

The hit was legal, there will be no consequences and I will continue to look for the quote from Olver and post here when he admits there was nothing wrong with the hit. Wait for it.

"The results in future years will be mine to bear, just like everyone else who decides to play a full contact sport at the competitive level."

exactly. every athlete's first instinct is to get right back out there. thanks to the older farts allowing science to look at their brains when they've passed, we now know that this is wrong.

he blindsided him, dropped the shoulder into his face, and the Colorado player has cuts on his bugle and a concussion.

you're ok with this. I'm not. the fact that the league is considering a suspension means it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be.

again, Komisarek could have eased up a little on an unsuspecting player and you and I are not even discussing this. this is concept of player respect.

My opinion bad hit. Intentional and deliberate.

No more answers for those who want to "pussify" this sport as Mike Milbury has so eloquently said......

Go find a wall and hit your head against it a few times. REAL hard while your at it and then come back and see if you can type a few intelligent words.

Very Solid Clean HIT

Komiserak executed a hockey play to perfection.

The Colorado players did exactly what hockey players are not supposed to do.....

There have been many illegal blind side hits this season and last season - this is not one of them.......

Lets hope your kid gets hit the same way someday. A nice clean hit.

1:07pm You're?

Presumably you didn't hit your head against the wall prior to typing this....what's your excuse? Must have been all those times you tripped over the blue line in House League and fell on your head. It's coming back to haunt you! LMFAO

Sounds like you have long term post concussion syndrome.

Right back at you!

Have a nice life blockhead

He took a skilled player off the ice with a clean hard check.

yeah yeah some think so others don't

when you skate into the centre of the ice with the puck, or in the vicinity of the puck,with your head down, you are not unsuspecting......kids have always been taught to hit players like that. The puck carrier has to be more aware.it was a good clean check. The speed and the size of the player is the reason for more injuries, especially to the head. I mean Gordie Howe was Mr. Elbow, but his equipment was softer and and he wasn't 6' 20".

"The puck carrier has to be more aware."

you've just contradicted yourself. he wasn't aware before the hit and obvious he wasn't aware of anything after the (cheap) hit.

Komisarek could have separated the Avs' player from the puck without giving him a concussion. the game is evolving. you flat earth society members need to move with current thinking.

So tell us smart guy, how much force exactly should Komisarek have applied to ensure Olver does not get a concussion?

This kind of hit is what the NHL wanted. Didn't Bettman say that opening up the ice, and detering the clutch and grab would promote open ice hits. This is what they wanted, and now it seems to be about work place safety. What gives you play hockey, its contact suck it up or don't play.

If the little farts want to play they better keep there heads up.Lupul took a similar hit and kept playing

If I was Komisarek's coach and he didn't hit him like that he would riding the pines. You make them think twice before they touch the puck again.

dude, do you really think Lupul didn't get his bell rung? just because he got up played thru it doesn't mean he didn't sustain a mild concussion.

it also doesn't make Wilson's eye-for-an-eye, dirty hit ok. cuz that's all it was, retaliation for the Komisarek hit.

players have to respect each other if blindside head shots are to end. I will suggest to you that if the score was out of reach or lopsided that we would have seen more head hunting from both teams. it definitely wouldn't have ended with Wilson/Lupul.

10:06, what does anything you said have to do with headshots? that's what both hits were.

The point is when big guys hit little farts you whiners are going to be crying head shot whaa whaa little johnny got hit in the head.Play ringette bitch

Well to the person saying unless you have had a concussion and all that I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt I have more than most from hockey football and other reasons.

I am a coach,trainer, and work with some of the highest caliber players and advocate getting head shots out of the game BUT.......I think that was a clean hit and it wasn't komi's shoulder that hit his face it was the kids own hands trying to brace himself if you slow down and watch it a few times.


Clean Hit!

Damn Straight, good to hear that others feel the same way. Concussions are a part of any contact sport, at least now you know its a possibility going into it. Before players 10 years ago never even knew what one was.

However, the risk is worth the result, and if wasn't people wouldn't play...its just that simple.

"However, the risk is worth the result, and if wasn't people wouldn't play...its just that simple."

I am not saying that at all. I am just saying it wasnt a dirty intent to injury hit.

Concussions are not fun and it really sucks when your memory starts to go from them. That being said if I knew more about them much earlier I could have made different choices in some of the things I had done. (bar fights etc) the stupid shit that caused some. The hockey and sports ones are part of the game but again when you know more about them you can wear better equipment properly and sit out when you need to.

all that wasnt known back 10 and more years ago!

More equipment? Isn't that the problem? You ever picked up a football helmet? It's not a piece of protection, it's a weapon.

Guys will continue to get dummied as long as people are willing to pay money to see it.

Improve your injury compensation in these contact sports, that's about all you can do.

once you start gooning you got nothing else going for you

coach tells you to do it cause you are whining about your ice time

fans want you to do it so you can be a goat and get suspended because they are sick of you too

you do it cause you are an idiot from someone else previously rattling your skull

now you are angry at the world and want to hurt others..

the league feels bad for you, so they let you do it till you embarass them, then you move on to other teams or leagues hoping for another chance, haa!


need I say more.....

Should not have taken the pass like that anyway. The player that gave the "SUICIDE PASS" should get a smack in the head to. Set uo his own player to be hit. Even though it was a clean hit, he should have let the puck go by