Yes I don't like it. Why? Well I have said plenty on that subject over the pass few months. Now that they have officially pronouced it I am dislike it even more. I don't want to have a when space is a new concept and I am sick of science fiction programmes and stories where Humans are the younger brother. Why not have a series where we are the parental figures and some younger race is the child for a change. space is big enough where it will always be the "final frontier". For heavens sake in TNG to Voyager we still haven't even got out of our own galaxy yet. The milky way is still local space. And the cosmos will always have something new to show us we don't have to go pre TOS to get that. However some people I am afraid disagree with this and I say they are sooooooooo wrong. That's the reason for my dislike. Move forwards not backwards I don't want to see something that is too close to our time and too close to our problems. I want to see a time when we have all solved those but have other things to solve. History (real history) tells us that there will always be something to discover and problems to solve no matter what period or technological advancement stage we are at. Go forward not backwards.
Oh the horror of my grammer and spelling mistakes in my previous message above. Please don't think that I am an uneducated moron. I should edit before I send in future I guess.
Star Trek has always been about going forward not backward, at least that was the impression i got for thirty two tears. To suddenly change (and you know it will) everything WE KNOW about pre-1701 history goes against everything that story writers, novelists and Gene R. ever laid down as the official BIBLE of Star Trek. Maybe its not important to the younger generation of fans but us oldies are the one's who need convincing,as we are somewhat in the know about all things Trek. Anyway I digress, the future Madame Present is what it's all about. in FEDERATION by J AND G REEVES STEVENS the ending takes us to a future Enterprise on the threshold of a different dimension provided by Star Trek's greatest mystery The Preservers. It's a great ending to a great book and stands for everything we know about our beloved Trek.I know that there are such things as copy rights but come on Berman, compare the two ideas. Setting of to explore the Alpha Qudrant which holds no surprises for us fans,(the important people) or charting new space and time dimensions in a ship that we can connect with as Trekkies. Ahead Mr Sulu, warp factor ten, viewer ahead...............
I am willing to give Enterprise a chance, but I can't.
May 21 2001, 1:21 PM
I would be willing to give Enterprise a chance, but I don't get UPN because they don't have a broadcast affiliate for my area. I would give it a chance if I could. Maybe I should write a letter to UPN demanding a broadcast affiliate for where I live.
UPN would like to have affiliates in every area, but they can't force stations to become UPN affiliates.
Now that UPN have the rights to "Buffy" as well as "Enterprise" there's a good chance that many more stations will become UPN affiliates and maybe (just maybe) you will get to watch "Enterprise" in your area.
UPN has already put a cable affiliate in one of the cities wher I get my broadcast channels from, so I doubt they'll put a broadcast affiliate in my area.
Doesn't anybody else see the inherant evil that is calling itself Enterprise! We got a dose in Voyager when they renamed Tom Paris. Continuity ALERT. I think they will be changing a lot more. Why not a story on the Enterprise B or C, we know some points of their history but not their service, and why do they keep dissing SULU!! What was wrong with an Excelsior show?
What do we do now? Does anybody here want to know the TRUTH OF WHAT IS GOING ON! I WILL TELL YOU, HERE IT IS: Paramount has decided to leave fans drooling for more, how? by disconnecting us from the familiar and giving us the past, that way they can guarantee a high cash turn out to all the upcoming movies. We will only get to see our beloved Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, goodbye Bajor, goodbye Ferengi, goodbye Dominion, and goodbye Borg. They will not be seen for as long as this show is on the air, except maybe in the movies. HOWS THAT FOR CONTROL. As a community we need to speak up, we may all be willing to give the new show a shot, but at what cost, we dont want to see this part of history, so why are we all acting like sheep and lying down and taking it. DAMN IM ANGRY.
First off, it was likely that they changed the name of Nick Locarno to Tom Paris because of financial reasons - the original writers of the episode in which Nick Locarno appeared would have to paid every time his name was used due to copyright laws - the same reason that T'Pau's name in Enterprise has been eventually changed to T'Pol (so that they don't have to keep paying the writers of 'Amok Time' for using her name.)
Next point - Voyager was screwed up continuity wise, which was showed up through lack of originality in storylines that the 24th century was imposing. It would have been cool to have a follow up to DS9, but I am slowly coming round to the fact that technology would advance, and technobabble would be used in every scene. We lose the sense of peril that we need.
The characters used in the 24th century can easily be explored in the 22nd, without having any Starfleet crap imposed on them (we have less technology, the future is more unstable with a Romulan War.) Funnily enough, the issue of "We know what happens" can be forgotten by sticking with episodes that focus on characters, and how the characters are affected by the situations that arised in the past - no-one will give a monkey's as to what happens at the end, it should be the characters that we care about.
As for continuity, the are going to have to do a damned good job. Forget about Voyager - Enterprise is Braga's show from day 1, so he's gonna be more careful. Plus he can control the concept from day 1 (no erratic changes unlike Voyager...) As long as storytelling is above par, continuity shouldn't matter.
If continuity doesn't matter, why bother affiliating it within the realm of Star trek? Why not just make the show it's own entity instead of rewriting te premise of a concept that's lasted almost 40 years?
So, the general consensus is that if a show mentions a name used three episodes ago, people will be happy? Even if the stores are shit, the series is nowhere on par with good Trek and is a shameless clone of something else, the continuity is all that matters?
I really worry as to whether there are any Trek fans out there...
LISTEN TO ME: Stories first, continuity later. I'm sure if the series is successful they'll pay a bit more attention to minor details to keep Trekkies happy. If they don't, It's not like I'm really bothered.
alot of the posts are complaining about enterprise,voyager,ds9,and tng---you complain about the continuity---the timeline---the time period for enterprise--why even like star trek????the people who are complaining about all this are the people who are causing the eventual demise of star trek....WHY CANT YOU PEOPLE BE HAPPY???!!!i mean--at least star trek is on the air--you are gonna complain too much and paramount is gonna pull the plug on the whole thing! im just glad they are keeping the star trek saga going---you dont know if your "never going to see your beloved aliens again"or if you will see them--the new series just might show you how the federation and the romulans--ect got involved with each other---all i have to say is: BE GLAD AND QUIT COMPLAINING!
I, for one, earnestly await Enterprise. I realize that Star Trek (TOS) was very reflective of the 60's spirit that idealists breathed - Peace, Love, Freedom, Happiness: We can find them if we're willing to cooperate intelligently and work hard. I wonder if the evolution of the Star Trek enterprise (pun intended) was to mirror the subsequent life of that Spirit. TNG, DS9, and VOY all will have serially spanned 15 years (by the time ST X is out next year) in a time of abundance - Picard was more a sedentary diplomat than explorer, Sisko served Country usually in the comfort of his castle (had a new identical starship virtually right after his first was destroyed), Janeway had plenty of replicator rations and spare shuttles even half a galaxy away from Earth.
The past 14 years have also seen Reagan, Bush the elder (and younger), and the Republican Revolution - the "return to family values", which might be more aptly put "pretending others' problems are not your own and deluding yourself that life was better in the past" The Voyager ending was like an evangelical altar call that magically vanquishes Satan and forgives you your sins - it doesn't answer the calling of the intellect.
Maybe the Powers That Be sensed their growing hollowness, their loss of idealism, and decided to return to a much more unstable time to explore exactly how Gene Roddenberry's supposed utopia would be formed in the first place. Sort of like asking yourself "What the hell am I doing here?"
I may be a child of the 90's, but I wonder where the 60's spirit went. Did it die with the countercultural revolutionaries' feeling overwhelmed by the amount of work their idealism would have entailed? Did they expect their reform only to take a couple of decades? Is it latent in the minds of those patiently enduring the reactionary backlash of their radical proposals? Are there small pockets of it still in existence? Why do my 20-something peers and their parents sneer at the mention of the 60's?
I would like to see Enterprise be a kind of bridge between Stranger in a Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein, and the original Star Trek. I would like to see how "poverty, hunger and war" (First Contact) might be alleviated; how devotion to "tribal gods" (Encounter at Farpoint) becomes Picard's more freethinking Federation. I would like to see how we make it out of petty dictatorships, religious warmongering, world epidemics of disease, environmental damage, witch hunts, etc. I think there could easily be a wealth (another pun) of story for the early 22nd century, if enough thought is put into the next Star Trek undertaking.
I agree that it would be wise to wait first and then pass judgement on this new series but as i said before the Alpha quadrant is no longer the final frontier for us. The Universe is a big place and only the limits of our imagination prevent us from going there.Which proves one thing,the present writers of star Trek have no imagination or a very limited budget.
There are countless stories to be told about space and time but the past is the past and should be left alone.