Alright, let's stop trashing each other and instead trash the real enemies...OBs who for some reason know nothing and don't seem to care.

This seems to be the root of the problem described by the OP. Why do OBs knows nothing about hormones and tell people that they've got broken ovaries? What does that even accomplish? And whoever's Dr. told them FSH should be less than 8?? wow...stop going to them. Hopefully this board has helped you learn that they are nuts. Do they really learn crap like that in med school???

swear swear that reference was NOT intentional!! ROTTEN EGGS? Could I have picked something better?! Obviously I need to go to bed because between this and that other post I'm no longer expressing myself clearly.

I kid you not! I was cleaning out my MIL's fridge after she died a couple of years ago and there was a carton of eggs left in the fridge. My DH kinda joked about taking them to our horrible local RE clinic. I honestly left them in the garage in the trash for a while thinking I'd drop them off and tell them that is what bad eggs look like and they should stop telling women with elevated FSH that their eggs are bad.

we scream out at the same time "$#@! YOU, [insert OB name here]". EVERY single time we pass by. And it's rather often too - probably about once a week these days.

And I've also gotten DD a onesie with the same shout out.

We encounter so many people at our old clinic and DH & I are physically biting our tongues not to yell- get the hell away from that place!! It really has good stats so everyone I know with success there has tons of follies but cant ovulate or has some endo. Someday I may take the kids by and ask them what they quoted me about doing IVF with less than 5 mature follies.

My OB/GYN has actually been more supportive and encouraging than most RE's I've seen. I think they've seen many cases like mine, where someone has been told they won't conceive only to show up pregnant on their own. My OB also brought up having kids at every annual starting at age 30 to make sure I was aware of issues conceiving at an advanced maternal age. And, during my pregnancy she allowed me to come in every week and performed an u/s on me until the end of the 1st trimester to give me peace of mind that everything was progressing ok (history of repeat m/c). I know everyone hasn't had that positive of an experience but I thought my OB deserved a shout-out!!

old OB - deserves rotten eggs.

new OB - deserves a giant kiss.

He doesn't think "high FSH" is a reason for needing IVF. He doesn't start getting concerned about FSH until it's in the 20 plus range. Unfortunately I hooked up with him midway through my pregnancy and all the "high FSH" BS damage had been done by then.

My current OB is much better too. She actually understood the reasoning behind my REs first protocol choice. I was much more angry at the first one who said I was in menopause like it was no big deal at 30. She also never mentioned anything about going on estrace to support follicle development. I am glad to hear that you got one of the good ones!

And loved her techs because they were super excited for my AFC of 2 and 3 at my IVF cycles. They had no idea that there were supposed to be like 20!! I think they thought we were looking for follicles to trigger for IUI or something. If it had been my old RE's office, they would have made some snide comment or looked at me with pity.

I have read the horror stories and count myself so lucky!

My OB had been though IF herself and had been told she was done... and went on to have two more babies! She is supportive, excited for me and... well, lets be honest this matters... has small hands and is fast! AND: she totally supports my still getting advice from Coo.per!

If anyone is in the NY/Queens area I will TOTALLY recommend her!

And now I am off to write her a thank you note!

Hugs to all!
Sara H