My buddy has a 217 and brags and brags about how its better than any 127 .His argument , 217 has a newer movement, Only 1000x made, the
"Destro" difference and how he has the "Marina Militare"
markings and the fiddy does not. Also the thing about not getting permission from the Italy's Navy , bla bla bla.
I love the Fiddy to death but I'm getting bullied big time .
Any really good Fiddy comebacks other than "perfect simplicity" " Its a Fiddy " " fiddy came first " ?

Thought they were the same OP XI?


Every sixty seconds you spend angry, upset or mad, is a full minute of happiness you'll never get back.

you win the argument !
I sold my 217 for what I paid for it, inside of one week.
I couldn't stand it.
very distracting in an anoying way.

Thanks for reply .

I wear my watches on my right hand, so I like the destro 217, but I can understand the majority of the population would probably prefer the 127.

He's probably just trying to get you to do an even trade, so he's talking up the 217.




Cheers,
-Darryl
SF Bay Area

SOB you might be right . He would have to pry it off my dead limp wrist first.

Only reason i'd buy a 217 over the 127 is the slightly cheaper price tag.

Jay - Sydney, Australia

Panerai 233K Luminor
Breitling Super Avenger

Ironically, destros usually carry a bit of a premium in the secondary markets, except in this case and perhaps that of the 55 vs. 56. But look at the 219 or the 22...they just sell higher generally. I think the 127 will always be highly sought after as it was the first of it's kind and still is. But deep down, I can't help but feel that 10 years from now the 217 will command a higher price. It's one of only 3 modern day Panerai with the "Marina Militare" designation, making it a somewhat special piece. There won't be any more with that designation. If OP ever releases a similar version, it would likely steal value from the 127 before it steals from the 217. Of course, this is pure speculation. Hard to argue that one is better than the other. It's more a matter of personal taste. You'll probably find just as many 127 advocates as you will 217 advocates.

Base arrives! Ya know it's coming

"AR"
LA, Cali

"You will never be happy with what you get, until you are happy with what you have."




Pamily Portrait

We both know it's coming...just a question of when!


Love your "pamily" AR!

You think if panerai issues a 47 mm historic piece that the 127 prices will plumit ?
I think theirs only so many fiddys. You can make another 1950 of watch XYZ but "a fiddy is fiddy" !!!

who knows. I guess we all just need to enjoy our 127's and 217's and who really cares what happens, right? Here's a few pics of my beauty:

Fantastic work. Those are catalog quality.

This topic is dear to me because the 127 and 217 are 2 of my all time favourite Panerai pieces.

Only 2 of your friend's points are valid, in my view.

Its very true indeed that only 3 pieces in Panerai's modern history has the MM words and they ARE prized. Reason is permission has to be sought from the Italian Navy to use the words, while Panerai had a very good relationship with them and ARE allowed to use, its done sparingly.


I can't argue about the scarcity value of the destro either.

The movement is really no big deal. CDG finish, better than the "Panerai Panerai" finish of the 127, really no a reason why you buy either piece in my view.

That said, EMOTIONALLY, the 127 sings FAR more to me than the 217.

And if it does to you, I think the logical arguments should not make much difference.

Cheers

Well taken TC , thank you.

For goodness sake.

Why are any of us here ?
We have a nutty obsession w/ a watch and it happens to be called Panerai .

Rob, that could not be more true...

Any Grand Seiko or Seiko Spring Drive...

127 has a name fiddy
what about 217?
left hand fiddy?

lol

I have both 127 and 217 but only 127 has the vintage font as 21, 203....Although I still like "Marina Militare" as well!!

I, too, have both, but I favor the 217 for the simple reason that it wears much more comfortably on my left wrist. The case guard on the 127 digs too much on the bend of my wrist, so my 217 is in fact my daily wearer.

Oh, and by the way, I refer to senor 217 as "Fidestro".

Wally
OC CA

wear one on each wrist - expensive dual time functionality !