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January 7 2013 at 9:11 PM
Ross McCracken  (no login)
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I'm looking to clarify where the name LONG GONE came from, anybody know the origin/story behind it?

Picked up the photo/article below of LONG GONE H-007 (LONG GONE #2). Really 3' longer than LONG GONE #1 that seems like a huge difference!

Does anybody know why they switched the number from OO7 to 4 with LONG GONE #3?

CHEERS - Ross McCracken

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Bill Portalski
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Long gone

January 8 2013, 12:15 AM 

Ross My Dad did some testing for less after Les got hurt. They raced in the S K class before Les Bought the old Miss Desots from Sterett then Long Gone 2 the first cabover. Les's first was A old runabout W/ Cadilac. Before S.K.

Give A way to contact you so we can talk!
Would be much easier than trying to typing it all. Aren't you working on one of Les's carovers.

Bill Portalski Greyhound S.K 77
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Thank's Bill

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long gone numbers......

January 8 2013, 11:40 AM 

they switched over to H-4 after the 2 accidents.

figured the 007 was bad luck???

Tom Maggard
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1966 Les Brown accident

January 8 2013, 5:37 PM 

So......when Les had an accident in 1966 he was driving the Lauterbach ex-Miss DeSoto V/Crazy Thing/Calabam hull?
Can anyone confirm this?

Rob Kaufman
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1966 accident

January 8 2013, 5:41 PM 

I believe it was his first Ron Jones cab-over in the bay near
D'eaths marina. near St. Pete

Tom Maggard
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January 8 2013, 7:27 PM 

From the photograph and caption starting this thread, it is clear this is an early Ron Jones cabover with a blunt bow...similar if not an exact copy of the H-77 Country Boy(XI?) of Salt Walther. I believe this boat is about 21 feet long. The caption indicates this boat is about 3 feet longer than the boat it replaces. Does this mean that the boat Les had an accident in in 1966 was not a 7 liter? Looking at the history of the Lauterbach Miss DeSoto V, Les Brown owned that boat for at least a portion of 1966. (This Miss DeSoto is just over 19 feet long) The boat then changed owners and became the Miss Chicago. The caption indicates that this boat is a replacement for the boat NEARLY destroyed in the accident. The H-007 Jones would be about 2 feet longer than the Miss DeSoto Lauterbach; more or less matching the above caption. Saying that the boat wrecked in this 1966 accident was a Jones cabover 7 liter does not seem to match the caption attached to the above photo.

Does anyone have a photo of the damaged boat in the 1966 Les Brown accident?

Ross McCracken
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Article About Long Gone Accident

January 8 2013, 7:47 PM 

The link below is a more detailed article and says this new cabover Jones is virtually a carbon copy of the one destroyed the year prior. I guess this leaves it open to interpretation, but I can't imagine it being three feet different.




Ross McCracken
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Another Article St-Pete Times 2/4/1966

January 8 2013, 8:16 PM 

Tom Maggard
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January 8 2013, 9:12 PM 

Thank you for clearing this up for me Ross. It is clear from the articles (and the photo of the nose of the wrecked hull) that the boat in Les's accident was a Ron Jones cabover with a round nose. And that the replacement hull was virtually identical except shorter by making the nose blunt. I believe these Jones boats from this time period had 60 inch tunnels so going from round nose to blunt would take a couple of feet off, more or less.

This must have been a hard time for Ron Jones designs. The Jones round nose 7 liter, Miss Treated Miss, was destroyed in an accident at the 1966 Nationals in Seattle. I am aware of one other Jones round nose 7 liter, H-444 all white in color, but know nothing of its history.

Salt Walther's Country Boy H-77 must have been build just before or after the replacement H-007 Long Gone.


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January 8 2013, 10:34 PM 

can't imagine if H-4 was a lucky number either.....
I posted these Bill Hodge's pics on our "Photo From a Moment" back in 2003:
(when the page opens up, you can click on the pics to enlarge them)

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