If I am not mistaken, isn't the KL-3B the one they call the "Fast Deer" ? ... Actually, that was the one I first considered, but after checking around I found that while many people were pleased with theirs, many people seemed to have a problem with "barrel-droop" on this rifle... Is that a common problem, and something I need to concern myself with ? ... Not long ago I bought a rifle stamped "WESTLAKE", that I had seen mentioned in another forum, but the accuracy left me again looking for a "beater-gun"....... But I do appreciate the information about the QB's... and I will definately check into them. In fact, one of those you mentioned will very possibly be my chioce... Again, Thank You.