First, persians destroyed ancient greeks and also conquered modern Macedonia. Then...contrary to all ancient greek settlements in the south aegean, SOMEHOW, a nation called MACEDONIANS founded an inland civilization in the middle of the Balkans. Then they started to destroy persians and also commit mass destructions toward ancient greek cities...and this nation were actually ancient greeks just like arnavites are also greek?
I'm also using my logic arx!
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If we are Mongolians, then you are Macedonians. :P
Why do all you greeks get so disturbed when I or someone else start speaking about Macedonia and threat me with banning. I'm writing my opinions here and you don't have right to do that...If you are right, ignore then just as we Turks do about your craps. It is difficult to keep the truths. As we Turks say: "it doesn't smoke if there is no fire".
But you...anyway, I'm in the forum of cencorias.
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"""If we are Mongolians, then you are Macedonians. :P """
Yep that's the truth.
"""Why do all you greeks get so disturbed when I or someone else start speaking about Macedonia and threat me with banning."""
They aren't threats in case you haven't noticed it's called stop being a nuisance there are rules to follow " members code of conduct " They the rules are there to protect the posters sanity from shameful acts of down degrading them selfs and their nation by their acts.
"""I'm writing my opinions here and you don't have right to do that..."""
Opinions are just that, never always based factual events, so therefore keep done by the same poster over and over again is a sign of shear Trolling to provoke with just shear sake of opinions without checking the facts.
"""It is difficult to keep the truths. As we Turks say: "it doesn't smoke if there is no fire"."""
There, there here. You said it now will you follow you're own advice ?
"""But you...anyway, I'm in the forum of cencorias."""
We know you, so does Zecanine about you...You've enjoyed more freedoms then in your own forum right ?
Ade enough with your childish acts.
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Niklianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group
Re: Macedonia is Greek?
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October 27 2007, 6:23 AM
Kanuni,
we have problems with what you say because it has no basis in historical facts! The Persians DID NOT destroy the Greeks! Have you ever heard of Marathon, or Salamis?? Read an ancient history book that wasn't written in Turkey or FYROM.
You twist reality in order to fit you hatred for Greeks. Your lack of knowledge of the history of the Aegean is obvious and that is why NONE of your arguments hold any credibility of water.
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Nikilianos is obvious that karvouni has problem to understand history. He/she/it discovered it after Kemal found the....... Mavi Anadoluculuk theory!!!
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Basil (Login BasilMacedon) Greece Forum Mods Group
Re: Macedonia is Greek?
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October 27 2007, 11:00 AM
"Macedonia is Bulgarian land since Bulgaria exists"
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lol lol Kanouni.... Bulgaria exists.... long after the 6th AD century....
Macedonia exists for more than 3000 years. Dont you see something is missing in your way of thinking? lol lol
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komi the Carthagians or Romans have left theirs traces and evidence as about what language spoken.The Romans knew the people of Carthage as "Poeni", a derivation of the word "Phoenicians", from which the adjective "Punic" is also derived......."Punic Wars".
Macedonians left and SPREAD only Greek language. Until now NOT ONE OTHER SINGLE trace or evidence than the Greek have found.
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95% of the word are Greek.Are you still fight that ancient Macedonian dialect is not Greek ?
You are far behind.I have explain all these in the below links
Ancient Macedonian language (provisional ISO-DIS 639-3.5 XMK).
Subgrouping Code : Ancient Greek language or IEGreekB
Group code: Greek Language or IEGreek.
Dont stay to much close in makburda.
BTW the word is ΓΑΡΚΑ(Garka) and not Garkan, and mean.....the stick,cane.The -G- stands for the Greek letter Gamma.
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I didn't have so much information about Macedonia 2 years ago and I wanted to share something I found here. I didn't know it was just a bulgarian propaganda. You're trying to provoke Macedonians agaist me but you don't succeed it...arx!
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"""I didn't know it was just a bulgarian propaganda."""
Maybe you don't know now that it's FYROMian propaganda.
Will we be saying this to you in the future ? " We told you so " ?
"""You're trying to provoke Macedonians agaist me but you don't succeed it...arx!"""
Actually you happened to be the poster and is still active, regardless
who it was. I would have done the same thing. Btw they aren't Macedonians.
Me, Akritas, istor, Basili and Kostas are the real deal. BUT we are Greeks,
just like a Greek Spartan would say am a Spartan BUT I am Greek etc.
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that map is Bulgaria after treaty of San Stephano in 1878. Ottoman Empire was defeated so Bulgaria was able demand any land it wanted. Bulgarian policy then was to build a Bulgarian ruled Balkan Empire and they needed Aegean lands and southern ports to gain regional dominance but they where not rightful Bulgarian lands since they where not their ethnic territories but this occupation was very brief because Berlin congress ordered Bulgaria out because of same reason.
They tried again latter but could not keep control over these lands since the majority of population didn't support them and Aegean Bulgaria theory died very fast when Greece launched liberation mission.
it is just like when Russia invaded Poland to build Russian Empire that doesn't mean Poland was rightful Russian land.
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Nikilianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group
Re: Macedonia is Greek?
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October 29 2007, 2:47 AM
Komi,
the 95% refers to the words in Hesychius' dictionary! It is a fact that 95% of them are Greek with the remaining 5% being loan words from either Illyrian and Thracian. Beyond that it is 100% a dialect of Greek belonging to the Northwest Greek language group!
So Komi where is there ANY evidence for another mother-tongue? Your own archaeologist have found nothing and neither have the Bulgarians. So you can't say the Greeks are covering it up!
Show us hard evidence such as a single inscription showing such a thing!
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Basil (Login BasilMacedon) Greece Forum Mods Group
Re: Macedonia is Greek?
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October 29 2007, 9:19 PM
Komi... you mean that this 5% comes from your... SLAVIC dialect that DID NOT at that time??! lol lol Even we take your example as the real one.... the word you use... created AFTER the Slavic invation in 6th century ANO DOMINI! You try to compare an ancient word... with a Slavic word.. although some thousands of years are missing in your connection. Are you nuts?!
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