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(Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMOctober 9 2007 at 11:27 PM No score for this post | Niklianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group |
| This was originally posted in the wrong thread so I moved it to it's own thread.
Originally posted by: Dawn(Dawn1111)
This is the link to a petition I created about the revocation of Canada's recognition of the FYROM as the republic of Macedonia. Please follow the link and sign the petition to help defend Greece and its history. Thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/jus2007/petition.html> |
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 Basil (Login BasilMacedon) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 13 2007, 6:02 AM |
sorry mate.. I cant find it. |
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Niklianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 16 2007, 12:07 AM |
Looks lie it was removed. |
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 akritas (Login akritas2) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 16 2007, 12:58 AM |
https://secure.tetnet.com/greekcommunity.org/signup/english/OXI.taf |
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Niklianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 17 2007, 12:17 AM |
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 Basil (Login BasilMacedon) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 18 2007, 1:16 AM |
Re Nikliane....?? Afto einai mono gia polites tou Kanada.. Den mporo na ypograpso.. ektos kai an yparhei eparhia "Makedonia" sto Kanada.. ?  |
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Niklianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 20 2007, 12:05 AM |
Suyomi Basili!
Distixos to arxiko post then ita diko mou
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 akritas (Login akritas2) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 20 2007, 12:21 AM |
«ΣΥΜΦΕΡΟΝΤΑ ΙΔΙΩΝ, ΕΤΑΙΡΩΝ Η ΑΜΦΟΤΕΡΩΝ;» Ο ΕΛΛΗΝΙΣΜΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΚΑΝΑΔΑ ΛΕΕΙ ΟΧΙ!
Εντατικά συνεχίζονται οι προετοιμασίες του Ελληνισμού για το μαζικό συλλαλητήριο διαμαρτυρίας μπροστά στο Κοινοβούλιο στην Οτάβα στις 27 Οκτωβρίου 2007, που διοργανώνει το Ελληνο¬Καναδικό Κογκρέσο σε συνεργασία με τους συλλόγους και τις ελληνικές κοινότητες σε όλο τον Καναδά .
Ποτέ δεν είδε το άπλετο φως του Κοινοβουλίου το σχέδιο νόμου που κατατέθηκε από βουλευτή σκοπιανής καταγωγής, για να αναγνωρίσει ο Καναδάς την ΠΓΔΜ σαν «Δημοκρατία της Μακεδονίας». Η Συντηρητική Κυβέρνηση του κ. Χαρπερ παρέκαμψε την κοινοβουλευτική διαδικασία και αποφάσισε δια νυχτός την αλλαγή ονομασίας. Η προκλητική και προσβλητική αυτή στάση απέναντι σε εκατοντάδες χιλιάδες Καναδούς ελληνικής καταγωγής είναι ανεπανάληπτη και απαράδεκτη.
Η απόφαση αυτή δημιούργησε έξαρση σε γνωστούς κύκλους υποστηρικτών των θέσεων της ΠΓΔΜ στον Καναδά, όπως ήδη είχε προειδοποιήσει τον πρωθυπουργό το Ελληνο¬Καναδικό Κογκρέσο, και οι οποίοι προκλητικά πλέον συνέχισαν να προβάλλουν τις γνωστές και επικίνδυνες θέσεις τους για επεκτατισμό & με την καπηλεία και παραχάραξη της ελληνικής ιστορίας και του πολιτισμού.
Η απόφαση διέγειρε και τον συγγραφικό οίστρο τέως δημοσίου υπαλλήλου του Καναδικού Υπουργείου Εξωτερικών που διετέλεσε πρέσβης στα Βαλκάνια, αλλά νυν μέλους του διοικητικού συμβουλίου καναδικής εταιρείας & επενδυτικά ενδιαφέροντα (χρυσωρυχεία) στην ίδια περιοχή, και σε γνωστές θέσεις υπέρ των Σκοπίων, επαίνεσε την κυβέρνηση των συντηρητικών του κ. Χάρπερ η οποία προτίμησε την σιωπή.
Η απόφαση αυτή δημιούργησε έξαρση επίσης και σε στελέχη των Ηνωμένων Εθνών, με αποτέλεσμα ο πρόεδρος του Συμβουλίου Ασφαλείας και ο ειδικός μεσολαβητής του ΟΗΕ στην υπόθεση ονομασίας της ΠΓΔΜ, να ξεπεράσουν τον εαυτό τους με σχόλια που δεν αρμόζουν της θέσης και της ευθύνης που έχουν αναλάβει εκ µέρους της διεθνής κοινότητας.
Ο Ελληνισμός του Καναδά:
Καταγγέλλει την εξωτερική πολιτική της κυβέρνησης των συντηρητικών του κ. Χάρπερ που εμπορεύεται τις αξίες και τις αρχές πάνω στις οποίες είναι χτισμένη η καναδική κοινωνία προς διευκόλυνση πολιτικών και οικονομικών συμφερόντων ιδίων και εταίρων.
Γιατί το όνομα του Καναδά να συνδέεται με όλα αυτά και να διασύρεται;
ΑΝΑΚΟΙΝΩΣΗ ΤΥΠΟΥ Μόντρεαλ, 15 Οκτωβρίου 2007 ΕΛΛΗΝΟ¬ΚΑΝΑΔΙΚΟ ΚΟΓΚΡΕΣΟ CANADIAN HELLENIC CONGRESS CONGRΕS HELLΕNIQUE CANADIEN
Καταγγέλλει την απόφαση που υποθάλπει την αδιαλλαξία και την αποσταθεροποίηση στα Βαλκάνια και ωθεί την πορεία των διαπραγματεύσεων μεταξύ Αθήνας και Σκοπίων σε αδιέξοδο τη στιγμή που τα Σκόπια και η Αθήνα διαπραγματεύονται την εύρεση μιας αμοιβαία αποδεκτής λύσης .
Καταγγέλλει την απόφαση που προκαλεί περαιτέρω ένταση στα Βαλκάνια με επικίνδυνα επακόλουθα για την ασφάλεια και εδαφική ακεραιότητα της Ελλάδας και των άλλων Βαλκανικών κρατών.
Καταγγέλλει την πρωτόγνωρη αυτή πολιτική της συντηρητικής κυβέρνησης του κ. Χάρπερ που με την απόφαση αυτή εµπνέει την αλαζονεία, χωρίζει τους πολίτες σε κατηγορίες και δημιουργεί εντάσεις και πάθη αναμεσα στις κοινότητες που αντιπροσωπεύει.
Παίρνει λάθος συμβουλές ο πρωθυπουργός.
Καταγγέλλει την απαράδεκτη και προσβλητική στάση της κυβέρνησης του κ. Χάρπερ που επέλεξε να αγνοήσει τις εκατοντάδες χιλιάδες Καναδών ελληνικής καταγωγής και έγινε συνεργός της παραχάραξης της ελληνικής ιστορίας και πολιτισµού. Η ιστορία δεν ξαναγράφεται, ούτε και από τους αυτο-αποκαλούµενους νικητές. Η κυβέρνηση να ανακαλέσει την απόφαση και να αναλάβει τις ευθύνες της.
Το Ελληνο¬Καναδικό Κογκρέσο καλει όλον Ελληνισμό του Καναδά στις 27 Οκτωβρίου 2007 µπροστά στο κοινοβουλιο στην Οτάβα, σε συλλαλήτηριο διαμαρτυρίας ενάντια στην προσβλητική στάση της συντηρητικής κυβέρνησης του κ. Χαρπερ απένταντι στον Ελληνισμό, και στην απόφαση του να αναγνωρίσει την ΠΓΔΜ σαν «Δημοκρατία της Μακεδονίας».
Στις επόµενες εκλογές 400,000 Καναδοί ελληνικής καταγωγής θα πούνε «ΟΧΙ!» σε όλους τους πολιτικούς που υποθάλπουν την διατάραξη της ειρήνης στα Βαλκάνια, φέρνουν κοινότητες σε αντιπαράθεση, και γίνονται συνεργοί στην παραχάραξη της ελληνικής ιστορίας επιμένοντας να αγνοούν τις ανάγκες και τα δίκαια αιτήματα αυτών που αντιπροσωπεύουν. ΓΙΑΤΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΗΤΑΝΕ, ΕΙΝΑΙ, ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΠΑΡΑΜΕΙΝΕΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ.
Από το Ελληνο-Καναδικό Κογκρέσο.
Επικοινωνία:
τηλ.: 1-888-ellines (1-888-355-4637),
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 Arxileas (Login Arxileas) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 25 2007, 4:07 PM |
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Anonymous (Login nitkov) | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 26 2007, 3:35 PM |
so what are u expecting? honestly, do u think that canada is going to abolish its previous decision? |
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Niklianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 27 2007, 6:31 AM |
Any political decision can be changed with enough political pressure. Thats how politics works. |
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Anonymous (Login KOMITADJI) | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 27 2007, 10:26 AM |
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Nikilianos (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 29 2007, 2:54 AM |
Laugh all you want Komi, afterall that is what us Greeks have been doing everytime you or one of your compatriots tries to debate that the Ancient Macedonians were not Greek! We even started a yearly award for you arguments and brilliant one-liners! |
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Anonymous (Login KOMITADJI) | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 29 2007, 12:14 PM |
Yeah I saw that, and I also saw your compatriot Arhi put some of my posts in there and then respond back in the original thread when I pulled him up on how mature it was of him to place posts of normal discussions there.You people have to realize that the time for such games are over and that my people are a reality as they have always been. We cannot even discuss matters with you because as soon as the heats gets to the kitchen you guys start insulting or turning things into a joke - And we have seen how far this attitude of yours towards my people has taken you.
For the protest, considering the Greek community outnumbers the Macedonian community in nearly every country, it was suprising to see only a few thousand turn out for your so-called protest regarding it was such an apparently "deep" matter for your people in Toronto.
Equally funny was the fact that most of the people protesting were sellouts who were speaking Macedonian on the way up, hehehe, the dillemma of the 2 decade old "greek-macedonian" concept.
And now you people are here trying to convince people that there are Greeks who address themselves as Athenians and Spartans, please   |
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 Arxileas (Login Arxileas) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 29 2007, 4:38 PM |
"""Yeah I saw that, and I also saw your compatriot Arhi put some of my posts in there and then respond back in the original thread when I pulled him up on how mature it was of him to place posts of normal discussions there."""
Was it wrong to place it in the appropriate topic ? You think you have been debating ? or deleting perhaps ?
Here I have explained it before on the FYROMian forum.
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KOMITZI it would be nice to debate and answer you unfortunately like many times you delete our replies. Which helps our cause
EDIT BY KOMITADJI: NICE WAY TO WORM OUT, THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE, I HAVE NOT DELETED ANY OF YOUR REPLIES, EITHER RESPOND TO MY MESSAGE OR COME TO TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT A HUNDRED YEARS AGO GREEKS KNEW MACEDONIANS WERE A SEPERATE PEOPLE, AND TODAY GREEK DESCENDANT BUNNIES CONJURE DREAMS OF SOME DELUDED "hellenism" THAT WAS ALIEN TO THEIR GREAT-GRANDFATHERS AS PROOF OF NOTHING MORE THAN THEIR IDIOCY.
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"""THE FACT THAT A HUNDRED YEARS AGO GREEKS KNEW MACEDONIANS WERE A SEPERATE PEOPLE, AND TODAY GREEK DESCENDANT BUNNIES CONJURE DREAMS OF SOME DELUDED "hellenism" THAT WAS ALIEN TO THEIR GREAT-GRANDFATHERS AS PROOF OF NOTHING MORE THAN THEIR IDIOCY."""
You honestly believe this crap ? So the very man who claims that we Greeks avoid real debate is the one who's been avoiding all debates by us Greeks with the genuine irrefutable evidence of the Greenness of Macedonia, still harps about crap such as above, it's like going around in circles.
We've yet to see anything from you people which may actually enlighten us, bedazzle us with your un-earthly insights for a change.
Try the truth for a change.
Until then have fun trying to fool no one but your self. |
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Anonymous (Login Nikilianos) Greece Forum Mods Group | Re: (Moved)PETITION TO CANADA FOR REVOCATION OF FYROM RECOGNITION AS ROMNo score for this post | October 30 2007, 4:54 AM |
Komi,
by us creating such a contest ha nothing to do with insulting you, especially when it is you and your comptriots' OWN words! There is a reason your side hasn't done such a thing! Because us Greeks argue with the facts and we don't come up with such idiotic histories and dedo stories.
We just want the rest of the world see how idiotic your(your sides) arguments and your beliefs are and how they are in no way supported historically.
We will never stop with presenting and defending REAL history and not the creation of political propaganda.
Your people were first called "Macedonian" Slavs by the Serbs, followed by the Greeks in order to gain influence over the Slavs of the REGION of Macedonia who the vast majority felt Bulgarian. This was also done in order to prevent Bulgaria proper from gaining control of the region. The name was purely politically motivated and was NEVER based on reality.
So now we have a dilemma. We either accept you for your invented speudo identity or correct a wrong that was created 100 or so years ago by showing the world that you were truly Bulgarian as your own founders and heroes stated. I opt for political and historical TRUTH rather than an outdated propoganda effort! As for us we can admit when we have made a mistake but unlike your side who wants to continue with an identity based on falsehoods. Finally when you were called "Macedonian" by the Serbs it had nothing to do with connecting you to the Ancient Macedonians but rather differentiate your from the Bulgarians by calling you according to the REGION your ancestors lived in.
So for the sake of historical reality stop calling yourselves by a name that was given to you for propagandic purposes and call yourself by what you really are! Anything BUT Macedonian! | |
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