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July 7 2011 at 3:30 PM
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 7 2011, 4:34 PM 

I agree with you on that.
Most of the money are spent on consultants. These consultants are living in luxury and sucking out the juice.
Some of them dont even have the expertise. Maybe they are using fake certifcates.

 
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July 16 2011, 9:57 PM 

I can't see what you're agreeing with. What was it you were responding to???????

 
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July 7 2011, 4:36 PM 

I agree with you on that.
Most of the money are spent on consultants. These consultants are living in luxury and sucking out the juice.
Some of them dont even have the expertise. Maybe they are using fake certifcates.

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 7 2011, 7:00 PM 

BeMobile no longer belong to Telikom.....so Telikom inject money to beil BMobile out of its drowning. Telikom has launched it Citifon.

Let Digicel take over Bemobile.


 
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BeMobile Operating on Overdraft

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July 7 2011, 9:55 PM 



Telikom as the 50% shareholder should step in and grab the bull by the horn and provide seek some solutions including but not limited to:

1. Problem is the board of BeMobile. Who is on the board of BeMobile by the way? Sack this board and replace with tried and tested directors who have turned around PNG companies in the past.

2. Get ICCC to put a ceiling on calling other networks by mobile and telephone companies. Say K0.50 toea per minute. As it is K1.50 (give or take) per minute calling from one network to another is prohibiting, even killing off healthy competition between mobile companies firstly, and secondly, when on average intra-network rates are around 20 toea per minute calling another network for K1.50 per minute is outrageous. The cost is 750% more than calling within a network and says two things about mobile network operators: (i) they are here to kill each other and (ii) to make money and they don't care if one is paying a price of 750% more expensive.

3. The BeMobile board and management should come out publicly and announce their predicament of financial distress. It should appologise and seek forgiveness from all PNGeans for its past practices that have got PNGeans holding a grudge against it and won't let go easily. BeMobile's survival is important for continued competition in the telecommunications sector for the benefit of all Papua New Guineans.

4. List on POMSOX. BeMobile should prepare a prospectus to float the company to be listed on POMSOX - Telikom to relinquish its 50% shareholding to be floated and other shareholders who may want to retire their investment in BeMobile and recall whatever money they have left in the value of the mobile company. The prospectus should be affordable enough that so many individual Papua New Guineans can buy shares so that they become truly loyal to BeMobile. The current financial distress faced by the mobile firm is good so it lists at a lower price and gives PNGeans to buy cheap and then through the loyalty powerbase from all PNGeans challenge BeMobile so the more the shareholders come loyal fanatic customers BeMobile scores will translate to fixing and lifting its financial position. POMSOX should not look past the financial position of the company but the potential it has to translate shareholders into loyal customers to gurantee viability of the mobile operator.

5. Invest in 4G Infrastructure. While Digicel and Telikom's Citifon are doing 3G which is limited in its applications and use. BeMobile can make a huge turnaround it its fortunes as it can deliver internet speeds 10times faster than Digicel and Telikom are providing through their 3G networks. Through the 4G network and fast speeds, BeMobile can also deliver higher definition TV (HDTV), Video on Demand, EMTV and Kundu transmissions throughout PNG and even corporate LAN/WAN data services for companies that Telikom has been the major provider and Digicel is making inroads into this market segment as well. This will truly put BeMobile on an enviable platform to take advantage of higher internet speeds from the PIPE cable in Madang once the National Broadband Network (NBN) is complete in 2015. This will truly put Digicel and Telikom on the back footing. Where ROME was once the most powerful empire on earth, it is no more. Digicel is not invicible and BeMobile can start stripping off from the 84% marketshare that Digicel has by investing in 4G infrastructure.

Please post alternative ideas for the board and management of BeMobile to use and get the operator out of a rut.


    
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bemobile still the best value network!

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July 7 2011, 10:54 PM 

typical Digicel propoganda.

Bemobile's fine. We are being paid on time. We are getting thousands of new customers each week. Hundreds of thousands of Papua New Guineans are loving our deals like triple credits and turbo.

Papua New Guineans who want to be ripped off can stay with Digicel and get sucked out of their cash. Bemobile is still the better value network!

 
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Get the handsets out there Bmobile

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July 8 2011, 9:07 AM 

I am a nationalist and the idea of Digicel taking over the PNG market or foreigners taking over in any other sector of the png economy irritates me.

I am a loyal bmobile customer, I even gave land for bmobile to put a tower on which I did not ask for payment for 4 years.

I love the triple credits and I buy it for my whole family. The problem for us is that most of the people we know are on digicel and we try to coax them to get bmobile but they are reluctant to switch because most of the people they know are on digicel.

I suggest bmobile goes out there at sells K30 for two handset deals all over the country and gives all the customers K10 free credit. Get a million handsets into the community. I would think at least 50% would continue to be used and that will increase the number of users for bmobile.

Maybe some of my friends and relatives will then get on bmobile.

Suggestion tasol. Anybody from bmobile out there reading this?

 
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Re: Get the handsets out there Bmobile

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July 8 2011, 5:58 PM 

Your idea sounds great except for the amount of money it would cost Bemobile. It sounds like Bemobile is in serious financial predicament.

 
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BeMobile

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July 8 2011, 5:53 PM 

Hundreds of thousands of subscribers? Out of a population of 6 million, the vast majority of whom are villagers with very limited income.

Now I know you're pulling our legs! Please come up with as much substance and detail in defending Bemobile as those who have been pointing out what look like legitimate issues and vulnerabilities.

 
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Bemobile has poor coverage in 2011

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July 8 2011, 5:56 PM 

If Bemobile is the better value network and gets all these new customers, then why is your coverage area still so poor compared to Digicel???????????

 
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Re: BeMobile Operating on Overdraft

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July 8 2011, 1:49 PM 

Who exactly owns Bemobile?

Who is on the board of Bemobile?

Why does no one seem to have these answers?

 
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Be Mobile Board

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July 8 2011, 2:45 PM 

The Board Chairman was or is Anthony Smare.


    
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July 8 2011, 5:49 PM 

Surely, you're joking. Telikom has never made a profit has it?

Who owns Bemobile? Did some corrupt pollies buy shares in it when it got off the ground? Who are the investors?

 
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LTE Backhaul Startup Rises From Nortel Ashes

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July 10 2011, 10:22 PM 

http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=209691&

LTE Backhaul Startup Rises From Nortel Ashes
July 7, 2011 | Michelle Donegan | Post a comment | inShare.Post a CommentPrint | Reprint | Email This | RSSno ratingsLogin to RateAmidst the wreckage of Nortel Networks Ltd. 's bankruptcy, a technology green shoot was cultivated to create a new company specializing in wireless backhaul for Long Term Evolution (LTE) small cells.

That startup is BLiNQ Networks Inc. (See Startups Rush to Small-Cell Backhaul .)

Founded in June 2010, the company was extracted from Nortel's bankruptcy process, which involved getting legal clearance from various courts in Canada, France, the U.K., and U.S. Because it was a small deal -- that is, compared to the billions generated from the sale of Nortel assets to Avaya Inc. , Ciena Corp. (Nasdaq: CIEN), Ericsson AB (Nasdaq: ERIC) and Genband Inc. -- it was able to avoid getting tangled up in the bankruptcy asset auctions.

Indeed, BLiNQ was established much in the same way that other startups are carved out and spun off from big technology companies. But in BLiNQ's case, Nortel's bankruptcy and asset sales added a lot of complexity and legal effort to get the company started.

The origin of BLiNQ's wireless backhaul system was a project that started around 2007 in Nortel's WiMax technology development. Back then, the Canadian vendor was working on the potential for combined access and backhaul WiMax products (also known as in-band backhaul) and had concluded that out-of-band backhaul was a better solution.

"At the same time, the WiMax writing was on the wall," said Carleton (Mickey) Miller, BLiNQ's co-founder, president and CEO. Following that, Nortel filed for bankruptcy protection in January 2009.

It was just at that time that Nortel's M&A team got involved and brought in New Venture Partners LLC about the potential to commercialize the backhaul technology project. In the end, New Venture Partners, along with Summerhill Venture Partners and the Business Development Bank of Canada , provided US$7.4 million in Series A funding to BLiNQ, which was announced in February this year. (See BLiNQ Secures $7.4M .)

BLiNQ has 30 employees, of which about 11 are from the original Nortel team. "We wanted to take the key employees from Nortel, but we didn't want to recreate Nortel," said Miller.

As for Nortel's IPR, BLiNQ didn't get any of that, but it has licenses to some patents in the portfolio that was auctioned for $4.5 billion to the consortium comprising Apple Inc. (Nasdaq: AAPL), EMC Corp. (NYSE: EMC), Ericsson, Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT), Research In Motion Ltd. (RIM) (Nasdaq: RIMM; Toronto: RIM) and Sony Corp. (NYSE: SNE). (See Nortel Sells Patents for $4.5B.)

The pitch
BLiNQ's answer to small cell backhaul for LTE is a point-to-multipoint non-line-of-site wireless system that uses time division duplex (TDD) frequencies below 6GHz, which is spectrum that was originally earmarked for WiMax services. Such frequency bands include 2.3GHz, 2.5GHz or 3.5GHz. (See BLiNQ Backhauls Small Cells and BLiNQ Optimizes Backhaul.)

"It allows carriers to take a wasteland of spectrum and turn it into ... beachfront property," said Miller.

The system also has self-organizing network (SON) capabilities, such as interference management, through a technology the company calls Managed Adaptive Resource Allocation (MARA)..

Miller said BLiNQ plans to run a live trial of the system on its campus in Ottawa and hopes to start trials with operators later this year.

But there are likely to be some regulatory hurdles for BLiNQ's system. In some countries, spectrum such as 2.5GHz or 3.5GHz was licensed only for the purpose of providing broadband access services. Using these frequencies for backhaul may not be allowed in some markets. This is the case in Italy for the 3.5GHz band, for example.

— Michelle Donegan, European Editor, Light Reading Mobile


 
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BeMobile Should Invest in Migrating to 4G

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July 11 2011, 9:49 AM 

BeMobile should dilute the shareholding of its shareholders and hunt around for new investors who would like to invest in BeMobile's upgrade to 4G. This would leave Digicel clutching thin air and when it does eventually wake up BeMobile would have stripped off enough customers that make Digicel feel so invincible and arrogant.

BeMobile should advertise the benefits of 4G such as the capacity to carry corporate data between head offices and branches throughout PNG as 4G is 10 times faster than 3G. Telikom's datalines and VSAT service is so ineffective BeMobile could provide an alternative to Telikom. I don't see any problems because Telikom owns 50% of BeMobile and yet starting Citifon that is stripping the market that BeMobile is competing. If that is stripping 70% of Digicel customers and 30% of BeMobile than the strategy can be seen as a good one. Otherwise we're having the parent company (Telikom) and a competitor (Digicel) flogging a struggling mobile operator (BeMobile).

 
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Noone is gonna invest in Bemobile.

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July 12 2011, 7:47 PM 

Why would anyone invest in a company that clearly has lost the plot? Why invest in a company that would need a massive cash investment to even TRY to catch up? No way.

BTW who owns Bemobile? I hear its a PNG company but I also hear that its foreign owned.

 
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Telikom/citifon is crap

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July 13 2011, 12:02 AM 

Citifon is taking the most profitable urban market.

The urban market normally generates the revenue needed to expand into the unprofitable rural market.

Telikom is destroying rural people's access to wireless phone by stripping off the profitable segment of the Digicel and Bemobile market.

Why would Telikom do such a thing that ultimately hurts rural people?

 
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Bmobile owners

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July 13 2011, 11:53 PM 

From the little I know, Bmobile is owned by Black Dolphin (some foreign company??), PNG Sustainable, the two Superfunds and some of the landowner groups from Hela.

Can anyone confirm?

 
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Re: Bmobile owners

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July 14 2011, 6:28 AM 

If that's really true, that explains it all (Bemobile's failure)!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Nationwide Microbank is a banking success story!

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July 11 2011, 11:26 AM 

You are way off the mark with Nationwide Microbank Limited. It is PNG's standout banking success story for the last 5 years it has grown from being a Wau Branch only microfinance operation to having 13 branches around the country and its officially has over 100,000 active microfinance customers who were rejected by the main banks because they lived in rural areas or they could not meet the commercial banks strict identification requirements which keep many rural people from having bank accounts. NMB's 100,000 plus active customers means it is now the second largest bank in PNG by customer numbers alone!

Smare is one of the founding directors of that Bank with ex bankers Ray Clark (chairman), Garry Tunstall (ex ANZ MD), Tony Westaway (ex BSP), and Brian Komun and Douglas Anayaber.

The K7 million hit was a once off accounting correction to get NMB compliant with the Bank of PNG's banking guidelines.

 
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State the Profit and Loss for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010

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July 11 2011, 12:36 PM 

Banker, that's interesting. could you state a brief financial report for the years above. Please state the figures according to the headings below. I am interested to know.

Profit/Loss :: Net Assets :: Members :: Management Expense Ratio :: Management Expenses :: Net Member Deposits :: YEAR


Thanks,

 
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Re: Nationwide Microbank is a banking success story!

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July 12 2011, 8:02 AM 

This sounds like a propaganda statement. The numbers don't lie. Could you give us profit and loss statements for the last few years. That is, if you know.

 
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email the MD.

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July 12 2011, 11:18 AM 

Email Tony Westaway NMB MD and ask him. I am sure he wouldn't mind giving them to you.

 
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Microbank, profit or loss?

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July 12 2011, 7:49 PM 

Unless you have handy his email to share with us, your suggestion is a non-suggestion.

 
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Nationwide Microbank signs up 100,000th customer

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July 15 2011, 11:20 AM 

http://bank.finchannel.com/news_flash/Banks/88000_PNG's_Nationwide_Microbank_Signs_Up_100,000th_Customer/

PNG's Nationwide Microbank Signs Up 100,000th Customer
31/05/2011 02:25 (44 Day 04:41 minutes ago)
The FINANCIAL -- MANILA, PHILIPPINES - Papua New Guinea's (PNG) Nationwide Microbank has signed up its 100,000th customer, highlighting the ongoing demand for quality and accessible banking services in the country.
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The landmark bank account was opened by Tommie Seriate, a 49-year-old widow and mother of four from the Unggai Bena District of the Eastern Highlands Province.

"I am so happy and glad that I made the right decision to open an account with Nationwide Microbank," said Ms Seriate. "They made it so simple to open a savings account."

To make a living, Ms Seriate operates a small coffee garden in a remote part of the Eastern Highlands Province, some two hours by road north of Goroka, the provincial capital. She had previously tried to open a bank account with two commercial banks without success.

Nationwide Microbank (formerly Wau Microbank) was established in 2004 as a pilot scheme under the ADB Microfinance and Employment Project. The project was implemented between 2002 and 2010 with a $9.6 million concessional loan from ADB to the Government of PNG and a grant from the Australian Agency for International Development (AusAID). It laid the foundation of a growing microfinance sector in PNG, through extensive training of staff and the development of appropriate products.

"Giving individuals and small firms access to the finance and banking services they need encourages entrepreneurship which ultimately helps boost economic growth for the country as a whole," said Eugenue Zhukov, Regional Director of ADB's office in Australia.

Although no official data exists, ADB estimates that only 15% of the PNG population has access to formal or informal banking facilities, lower still in rural parts of the country. This means that small firms are unable to get the finance they need to expand and individuals are unable to either borrow to meet their financial needs or securely save their earnings.

"Nationwide Microbank continues its efforts to ensure that the people of Papua New Guinea have access to relevant and affordable financial services," said Tony Westaway, Nationwide Microbank's Managing Director. "We are ‘banking the un-banked', an achievement that would not have been possible without the ongoing support from the Asian Development Bank and the Pacific Financial Inclusion Programme (PFIP)."

In order to further expand its reach into rural areas and make its services even more accessible to clients, Nationwide Microbank is developing a "branchless" banking strategy, with support from PFIP and ADB, which will offer financial services through the use of mobile phones and other wireless technology. The aim is to enable clients to use their bank accounts without needing to travel to a bank branch, a journey that can be both costly and time-consuming from remote parts of the country.

PFIP is a Pacific-wide program that is helping to provide sustainable financial services to low income households. It is funded by the UN Capital Development Fund, AusAID, the European Union, and the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP). PFIP operates from the UNDP Pacific Centre in Fiji.

 
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Digicel 2010 results compared to Cable & Wireless

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July 15 2011, 11:18 AM 

http://www.biginjamaica.com/finance/digicel/

Digicel Year-End Results Released
Posted on June 13, 2011 by workwidit
Digicel released their results for the year ended March 31, 2011 today.

The company reported a 27% jump in revenues to US$2.2B while Earnings Before Interest Taxes Depreciation and Amortisation also improved by 27% to US$954M.

Lots of money.

This is in comparison to losses of J$6.1B or US$70.9M reported by Cable & Wireless Jamaica for the same period.

To be fair, the results reported by Digicel were for 32 countries as opposed to Cable & Wireless Jamaica (LIME) which was for Jamaica only and I’m not sure what percentage of earnings is derived from Jamaica. Although it would be reasonable to assume that about a fifth of Digicel’s 11.5 million subscribers reside in Jamaica based on media reports stating that Digicel has approximately 2 million subscribers in Jamaica.

Therefore, about US$165M EBITDA or J$14B could be attributed to its Jamaican operations.

There are definitely some other points worth noting:
-The company is only 10 years old

-Strong EBITDA margins at 43%

-Data revenues were up 104% and data now accounts for 15% of its revenues
This is a strong trend and should not be ignored. Lots of opportunities to cater to this market. Also, if you are not technologically savvy, it’s time to get up to speed.

-International ratings agency, Fitch, upgraded the company’s debt

-The company has been focusing on Haiti, which has a much bigger population than Jamaica

-Digicel states that it has improved internet penetration from 17% to 20% in nine months.
Although the percentage figure looks small, that is a significant jump.

-The company has been giving back to the communities in which it operates as highlighted by a US$1.2 million commitment to build a paediatric cardio unit at the Bustamante Children’s Hospital in Kingston

-Digicel is not a public company and has financed its operations through significant amounts of debt, so it would be interesting to see its net profit after tax.

Good work Digicel. Now just improve the service and don’t become another Cable & Wireless after the acquisition of Claro (if it goes through).

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 14 2011, 9:24 AM 

Bemobile is no longer owned by Telikom
It's 50% shares were given to IPBC. IPBC holds the Government Shares of Bemobile.
This 50% shares are gain divided and help by Nasfund, Nambawan Super etc

The Other 50% is held by GEMS together with CPL groups etc.

Anthony Smare was the Chairman of Bemobile. However, this is now unsure and there are rumours that GEMS would appoint a Chairman in replacement of Mr. Smare.

Stuart Kelly is the CEO of Bemobile. He was formerly the CEO of Digicel before it was taken over be John Mangos.

...mE

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 14 2011, 10:53 PM 

IPBC owns 50% of bemobile. Under their agreement with GEMS, IPBC appoints the chairman. IPBC MD Glenn Blake is chairman of bemobile. Anthony Smare was chairman for the first few years because Glenn Blake was sick with cancer. Glenn Blake is back permanently in PNG now and has taken over as chairman of bemobile.

 
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BeMobile to sell its Solomon Islands Assets at a Fire Sale Price Part

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July 15 2011, 9:03 AM 



The cash strapped BeMobile is now talking about selling its Solomon Islands assets at a fire sale price.

Digicel pounding on this news is circling Solomon Islands. Its top executives just returned from a visit to Solomon Islands to carry out reconnaissance / due diligence on the value of BeMobile’s assets without the competitor knowing. Digicel is counting down the days when it would pick up these assets for next to nothing, say about K5 million. BeMobile’s total investment in Solomon Islands so far is K20 million.

David Cox of Steamships which invested heavily in BeMobile is in the hot seat and looks very likely to have his head rolled. One would feel sorry for him for taking Anthony Smare’s bait that they would turn around BeMobile. The Steamships investment of K20 million in BeMobile would now come back to haunt him for playing folly with Anthony Smare.

What will happen to Anthony Smare, the Chairman and all the directors of BeMobile? Will he still be on the Telikom and Micro Bank Boards?

AusAID wanted to develop him as a model leader but look at the organisations that have floundered or are faltering and crumbling under
him? Kumul Students International and Kumul Foundation were his stepping stones that are now spent forces. BeMobile is in similar stormy waters. Microbank, well only time will tell if Anthony Smare is a venturist for starting up successful, competitively sustainable organisations.

While Anthony is a great Salesman, he doesn’t fit the bill of being a director.

Over to BeMobile. Who will take over its assets? Telikom still owns 50% of these assets in PNG so it would prime for picking when the BeMobile ship sinks.

On competition. We need Telikom to be competitive to give Digicel a run for its money. PNG would however, lose out on a third value proposition, that offered by BeMobile with its 1toea Wantok rate. Competition can be good but on the same token hostile competition can be bad for business and consumers when a player dies in an oligopoly where there are few players that require economies of scale to survive.

 
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Re: BeMobile to sell its Solomon Islands Assets at a Fire Sale Price Part

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July 15 2011, 9:57 AM 

I'm sorry to say that our png elite do great when they're working for a foreign company and have a structure to work with. but when they go out on their own things just kind of collapse almost every time. Maybe its better that our png elite just work for foreigners so the foreigners point their noses in productive directions. that keeps these kinds of disasters from hapening. just my observation.

 
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some corrections about bemobile, etc.....

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July 15 2011, 11:11 AM 

Many of the statements in your post need to be challenged.


The British multinational Cable & Wireless controlled the Jamaican market for 50 years before Digicel arrived and in 7 years smashed them through cheaper pricing and reduced their market sharehare to less than 20%. See this link http://www.siliconcaribe.com/2008/07/30/miphone-vs-digicel-vs-cable-wireless-who-will-win-the-cellphone-war/ to read more
But Cable & Wireless did not double customer numbers in 12 months like bemobile did in PNG or beat Digicel to a mobile licence like bemobile did in Solomon Islands. Cable & Wireless is a company worth billions compaired to bemobile which is very small. Digicel made a large profit in Jaimaica last year while Cable and Wireless lost US$80 million in 2010 (over K200 million loss! - read about C&W's loss at http://www.biginjamaica.com/finance/digicel/ )

Digicel are extremely well funded and well run. They are big enough to bring Cable & Wireless crashing to their knees in Jamaica. Against Digicel bemobile should have no chance. But according to its media statements, Bemobile has doubled its customer numbers in 12 months (100% growth) which is an incredible result. It is also reported that bemobile is now the largest mobile carrier in Solomon Islands. That is a great result and the board and management of bemobile should be congratulated. Digicel have lots of money so it will be hard to beat Digicel but maybe bemobile can be a competitive second operator in PNG and survive.

Nationwide Microbank is a big success story experiencing major growth and providing essential financial services to ordinary villagers who the other banks refuse to serve. According to media reports Nationwide Microbank signed up its 100,000 customer in May. It is now the second largest bank in terms of customer numbers. That is an amazing result for a company that only started five years ago. The board and management of Nationwide Microbank should be congratulated. Read more about Microbank's history and its 100,000 customer here http://bank.finchannel.com/news_flash/Banks/88000_PNG's_Nationwide_Microbank_Signs_Up_100,000th_Customer/


AS has degrees in law and geology from QUT on an ausaid scholarship and he worked in Melbourne for 5 years for leading Australian law firm Allens Arthur Robinson and becoming a partner in the lawfirm's Port Moresby office. Ausaid love Anthony Smare because he is their top product out of their highschool and university scholarship program who has gone on to do really well and his Australian university Queensland University of Technology recognised him by giving him an award last year as their top young alumni. AS showed that not only can the ausaid program produce top class PNG products but also top class products when compared against Australians and international students coming out of Australian universities.

All boards usually have a finance expert, a legal expert and experts in the business of the company. AS is on the boards he is on because he is one of the top commercial lawyers that PNG has produced.

AS is also on City Pharmacy board which has been producing record revenues and is one of the few companies on the Pomsox which has seen its shareprice continue to perform strongly. http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20110318/business05.htm

Starting with virtually nothing over 10 years ago, AS has built an outstanding career and personal wealth and he has done it with hard work and smart decisions.

AS is a great young PNG national and is an outstanding young PNG company director. He was the first of his age group to break into senior executive and board positions in PNG and he did it the right way. He is always available to help and assist young people that ask him for assistance and advice.

People who read the negative postings against Anthony Smare or any of the other young respected Papua New Guineans like Peter Aitsi, etc, on internet sites like this by anonymous posters should think twice about believing what these critics are saying.
These few nameless critics have their own personal selfish reason usually based on jealousy or vested interests why they want to hurt the reputations of the outstanding young Papua New Guineans they are attacking and its not based on the truth. You should make your own mind for yourself by contacting these Papua New Guineans directly and engaging with them, you will find out that these guys are great guys and that they got where they got purely on merit...We should promote and protect our PNG role models and not tear them down.






 
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Re: some corrections about bemobile, etc.....

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July 15 2011, 11:28 AM 

Nox bisi. We can all see that its someone with a personal agenda against bemobile or AS who is running around posting this rubbish.

 
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Give Us The Facts on BeMobile

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July 15 2011, 12:13 PM 

Please give us the facts.

Profitability of BeMobile in the last ten years. The subscriber numbers in the last 10 years.

P.S. Anthony Smare we don't want your CV we want the facts on BeMobile.

 
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Re: some corrections about bemobile, etc.....

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July 16 2011, 11:44 AM 

I think we need to hear both sides of the story to make up our own minds. It is clear that over the past few days some comments written about certain people or a certain side of the story are being removed. That is ugly to do such a thing. Let free speech live. Don't take off one side of the story then expect us to believe the sanitized version. This is unethical I would say.

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 15 2011, 12:42 PM 

Thanks Wantok

So the share break-up was
50% IPBC
50% GEMS

But it is now
46.5% IPBC (IPBC, Nambawan Super, BSP, Nasfund etc is held by IPBC)
46.5% GEMS (Triology, Steamships etc is held by GEMS)
7% ADB - which bought 3.5% from each with a K40m debt equity

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But that doesn't answer the question, what is the profit and subscriber numbers?

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July 15 2011, 12:51 PM 

Thank you. But that doesn't answer the question.

What are the profits and subscriber numbers for the last 10 years?

 
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Some ideas

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July 15 2011, 4:37 PM 

Thank you for this information. Has ADB infact agreed to provide funding? If so, I suggest BeMobile use this money to:

1. Buy an ISP - such as Global Internet which is struggling to survive. It was only cherry-picking in the rich urban markets and now that Digicel and Telikom have captured these markets with big investment in infrastructure that is able to reach the critical mass to create the economies of scale required, BeMobile with its 3G network infrastructure buying Global Technologies would be a win-win for BeMobile and Global.

2. BeMobile upgrade its 3G network to 4G in
2.1 Port Moresby
2.1 Lae
2.3 Hagen
2.4 Goroka
2.5 Madang
2.6 Wewak
2.7 Kimbe
2.8 Kokopo
2.9 Alotau

This will capture the corporate data market with enough 4G bandwidth capacity and provide an alternative to what Telikom is doing. If Telikom is allowed to launch its citifon mobile service that is surely stripping off some of the clients that should be rightful left alone for BeMobile, then BeMobile has the right to firstly, do the right thing for its own survival by taking the plunge into data.

Would be interesting to see the conditions placed on the K40 million placed by ADB for its investment.

If people scrutinise the advertising and promotion strategies of BeMobile, Digicel and Citifon, BeMobile is advertising to sell handsets while Digicel and Citifon/Telinet (Telikom) are advertising their differentiated products and services.

BeMobile has to be fighting the competition battle from all angles. What happened to its internet value proposition?

4G has enough bandwidth capacity to support voice, multimedia and data so BeMobile should be thinking about capturing new markets than wasting its advertising kina on fighting for Digicel customers because Digicel will never stand still and see BeMobile have its way.

There's enough dissatisfaction with corporate clients on Telikom's data services so this is a market ripe for BeMobile's picking than wasting its time enticing very, very satisfied, content and hardcore loyal Digicel customers.

3. Digicel Strategy. If one scrutinises Digicel's strategy, they are not lowering their call, SMS and internet rates lower enough. This is because they know if they go too low and when BeMobile is dead, they don't want to be seen to be raising their prices again. They have lowered their prices low enough to keep their customers and low enough so not to raise their tarrifs when BeMobile is flushed out of competition.

Yield Management. BeMobile wastes a lot of capacity that is going unused. It should probably consider lowering its CUG rate to K10 per month and surely there will be traction in the number of Digicel customers its trying to win. Digicel won't go any lower than certain rates that would be unprofitable for it. BeMobile is already at the bottom and making its way up, so it should use its bottom position to bring prices so low and see how Digicel would react on the CUG price proposition. Because 85% of mobile subscribers are on Digicel, lowering their CUG rates below K20 or even K15 would be suicide.

4. Digicel just got its full telephone/data/mobile license yesterday. Probably a death knell both, firstly to BeMobile and secondly Telikom. More exciting things to come but Digicel now has the LICENSE TO KILL and will snipe down BeMobile and Telikom very, very shortly.

COMPETITION WILL BE DEAD VERY SHORTLY AS WE KNOW BOTH BEMOBILE AND TELIKOM DON'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF COMPETITIVENESS TO STAY AFLOAT.

 
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Re: Some ideas

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July 15 2011, 8:27 PM 

Thanks for the analysis - very sound in my opinion.

What will be interesting to see is what Digicel does now it has the go ahead (finally).

Internet costs are sky high in PNG and hopefully Digicel's venture into these new markets will see the rates becoming more competitive.

Vodafone Australia is offering 25 GB of data for $250 (or roughly K600).
In PNG (with Telikom) the same amount of data would cost you K7,142 !!!!

What makes it worse is that the average Papua New Guinean earns K200 per fortnight , the average Australian earns K4,700 per fortnight.

So to compare apples with apples here. Let's assume that 25 GB is for 1 month. The Australian would spend 6% of his salary while the Papua New Guinean would spend 100% of his salary and have to borrow an additional K6,740(and spend the rest of his productive life repaying the loan) in order to afford the same level of Internet usage.

Something has to happen - access to the Internet is no longer a luxury, it is a vital good. This is the 21st century and we are in the silicon age. If Papua New Guineans are to compete in this increasingly globalized world, affordable Internet access is a priority.

 
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Re: Some ideas

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July 16 2011, 8:54 AM 

You don't understand economics. Compare the number of subscribers using internet or any other infrastructure in Australia versus how many use similar infrastructure in the more rugged (=higher maintenance costs) terrain in PNG and it's obvious why we pay more now and will always pay more. We simply don't have the population or the nice geography that allows lower costs.

 
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New Technology will reduce costs

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July 16 2011, 10:33 AM 

What Bmobile needs is cost leadership.

What they have been doing in the last few months certainly demonstrates that they are either cash strapped or have costs that are so low that they are leading in this area.

I think Digicel will start to have problems soon because they are not paying the rentals in many of their tower sites.

We cannot compare PNG with a foreign country because in PNG the factors that affect business are different.

I would like to see Bmobile get more cheap handsets out to the masses and increase its coverage.

What about the impact of Citifon? I bought two handsets but they are just too hard to use. Does anyone know how they are doing?

 
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Re: New Technology will reduce costs

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July 16 2011, 11:30 AM 

It's a copout to say we can't compare PNG with other countries in terms of basic economics. We most certainly can and all you have to do is look around you to see universal economic factors at work. That's why we pay so much for everything. Low volume, small economy. Simple as that. And there are no ways around it. I know you want to ignore that reality and look the other way but there's no getting around it.

New technology affects our economic development and wealth increase even more than if we didn't use new technology. Any new technology is created overseas. That means that when we buy that technology with our hard earned kina, much of that money leaves PNG forever and goes overseas. The more foreign technology we use, the richer the countries become off of PNG's hard work because more and more wealth flows out of our country. Yes, we benefit from that new technology. What you don't see is how much we're losing in the long term. There's no reason for a resource rich country like ours to be so poor so many years after independence. Yes, you can blame corruption, but the kind of widespread corruption we have now only started when Wingti and Chan did their Look North policy in the early 1990's. Even more inportant is the fact that unlike so many developing countries, we are extremely import dependent. We even buy imported food! All that means great wealth draining out of our country each day and into the hands of the foriengers that produce all these things. So long as we're dependent on things made overseas to the great extent we are, we'll never build up wealth in our country. It will constantly leak out.

So please don't say that new technology will help us overall. It may help, but behind the scenes the drain in wealth may be the biggest factor of all.

 
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Re: New Technology will reduce costs

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July 16 2011, 11:19 PM 

My friend I agree with you in some respects but not all.

You see Fiji has a population of about 600,000 people yet fon costs there are much cheaper and the competition is fierce to the extent that it is cheaper to keep buying new phones than to buy credit!

We have what, 6,000,000 people?

With mobile phones after you install the infrastructure your running costs are very, very small. The cost of purchasing and installing one tower is about K500,000 (give or take).

Lets just say you have 1,000,000 users who spend K1.00 per day on your services, that gives you K365,000,000 per year.

My entire family actually spends about K110 per week on Bmobile and about K300 a week on Digicel. On average we are spending about K8/day on digicel and about K2/day on bmobile.

I'd like to believe that Bmobile could do better if they just get the handsets out there. More handsets means more users and more revenue. We spend alot on Digicel because 80% of the people we know are on it, we communicate within the family using bmobile only, not digicel simply because it is cheaper.

If everyone I know is on bmobile, I would throw out my digicel phone.

 
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Re: New Technology will reduce costs

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July 17 2011, 1:35 PM 

Compare the population DENSITY of PNG versus Fiji. Ultimately, that's the most important factor in terms of infrastructure costs PER SUBSCRIBER. Also compare the terrain.

 
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Mobile Issues

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July 19 2011, 12:47 AM 

BMobile lost its popularity monopolising the market and now losing customer confidence. Sorry em bai hard how much we preach the truth about BMobile.

Tough Luck

 
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Any company running those "devil people" billboard adverts CAN'T be a PNG run company!

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July 26 2011, 2:54 AM 

Those ridiculous orange "devil men" billboards caused a lot of rumours amongst our people that Bemobile was a "satan company" or somehow controlled by the devil. Why would such symbols have been used by Bemobile in its advertising?

You know how our people are. Rumours get started and spread and it can affect business. Any Papua New Guinean with any sense whatsoever would have never approved such a billboard to be put up all over PNG. What were they thinking?????????????????

Honestly. This stupid advert campaign couldn't have posibly been developed by PNGeans who had any knowledge of our country and the attitudes and way of thinking of our people!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Re: Any company running those "devil people" billboard adverts CAN'T be a PNG run company!

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July 26 2011, 10:22 AM 

They are called "Orange Men" you Digicel coconut. Run back to your white masters @ Digicel and report to them.

 
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Re: Any company running those "devil people" billboard adverts CAN'T be a PNG run company!

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July 28 2011, 6:49 PM 

Anyone with any common sense at all wouldn't use figures that someone could get any idea at all might be satanic, devilish, etc. Who came up with that stupid, stupid, stupid idea? Was it the expat CEO? Whoever it was, what a disaster. How could a Papua New Guinean, knowing how superstitous people are, possibly come up with the orange devils, looking like they're screaming (or are they smiling) from hell?

 
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Bemobile would have increased their coverage if they had the cash!

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July 29 2011, 1:20 AM 

All of you with the bright ideas of what Bemobile would do have to realize that those working for the company already had all of your ideas. The problem is, no money. And Bemobile isn't generating the revenue expected which means that they're in a contraction state, not an expansion.

Thus, any of your ideas that would cost Bemobile money you can just forget. They aren't going to do it.

 
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Bemobile would have increased their coverage if they had the cash!

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July 29 2011, 1:21 AM 

All of you with the bright ideas of what Bemobile would do have to realize that those working for the company already had all of your ideas. The problem is, no money. And Bemobile isn't generating the revenue expected which means that they're in a contraction state, not an expansion.

Thus, any of your ideas that would cost Bemobile money you can just forget. They aren't going to do it.

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 27 2011, 10:36 AM 

PLEASE, PLEASE, COULD SOMEONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION: Who owns this GEMS company (owner of Steamships). Not another bloody Asian group, is it? Is that who ownws nearly half of Bemobile???????

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 16 2011, 11:32 AM 

What is GEMS???????????????

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 16 2011, 2:40 PM 

BeMobile is like a deadman man pretending to walk and talk, as if there is life in him. Period!

Black Water Meri

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 16 2011, 3:32 PM 

Just a very quick response.

It's only partially true that population and geography are to "blame" for the higher costs in PNG as opposed to Australia. But the fact still remains that the people in PNG are being fleeced big time!

Australia has 22 something million while PNG has 6 million right? Guess how many China has? Using your logic, Internet should be virtually free in China then? And geography is really a red herring - the urban areas of PNG which are predominantly on the coast are where the bulk of the customer base is. These people are already linked up and the terrain is similar to what you would find in Australia.

The discrepancies are too big to shrug off. Unfortunately it's customers like you (assuming you don't work for Telikom and therefore get free unlimited internet access - basically being subsidized by those who pay a fortune to access the internet) who are happy to live in the technological stone age that will continue to make excuses for failures of our large businesses to serve the customers.

Papua New Guineans who believe that we deserve less because we are NOT white or NOT Australians are one of the major drags on the advancement of this nation unfortunately.


 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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July 16 2011, 3:55 PM 

Yeah but it's not a straight line curve relationship. Thus, the logic of high volume lowering prices wouldn't predict that costs in China would be nearly free. There are always baseline costs and overheads that must be paid for.

 
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Best Value Network

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July 16 2011, 9:48 PM 

You've got the big for nothing network - Digicel
90 toea for the first minute, followed by 11toea every minute there after
30 toea per SMS
K1.50 per minute to other networks

You've got the better value network - BeMobile
70 toea for the first minute, followed by 1toea every minute there after
K1.50 per minute to other networks
25 toea per SMS

You've got the best value network - Citifon
2 toea per minute
1 toea per SMS
39 toea per minute to other networks
10 toea per SMS to other networks

 
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Citifon Coverage - all of PNG

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July 16 2011, 9:55 PM 

Citifone has coverage in NCD, Lae, hagen, goroka, pomio etc... in all major provincial centers. for East Sepik it covers 80% of the province with the benefit of the highest peak Mt. Turu's towers that covers the coast, the sepik plains and sepik river.

We'll done Peter Loko and team.

 
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Re: Citifon Coverage - all of PNG

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July 16 2011, 9:56 PM 

What about the other 90% of rural PNG?

 
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The Citifon Reception is very poor

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July 20 2011, 6:52 PM 

Dismayed and disappointed. BeMobile and Digicel are still good with their voice quality.

 
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Turn Around Strategy for BeMobile - Yes We Can!!!

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July 22 2011, 5:03 PM 

Why is BeMobile finding it hard to capture a good market share from the 84% of subscribers with Digicel?

Is it because Digicel has better quality calls? NO
Is it because Digicel has bigger marketing? NO

BeMobile is already a price leader. It just needs to get 1 million handsets into the hands of Papua New Guineans.

The reason why lot of people don't want to switch enmass to BeMobile, the better value network is because all their friends, family, work colleagues and just about everyone they know is on Digicel. For them to go it alone to BeMobile would be expensive calling them with interconnection costs being the monster.

They do know that BeMobile offers better value than Digicel and Telikom's Citifon.

If BeMobile buys 1 million mobile handsets, subsidises and sells them at K10 per handset as a wholesale price (then let the tradestore owners by and sell for K15, say BeMobile's retail price), then drops its first minute rate down to 39 toea... It will just about bury Citifon and then secondly strip as much as 50% of subscribers from Digicel within a year... all troubles solved!!!

Its just that BeMobile is wasting its money trying to compete with Digicel on marketing, on promoting sport, on differentiating its products and services with its now dead 3G wireless internet service and so on and so forth...excellent diversion strategies by Digicel finding favourable battle grounds that it has an advantage in and luring BeMobile to the fight so it doesn't concentrate on stripping its customers and bleeds to an eventual death.

Telikom is now doing the same, revving up its marketing team!!! BeMobile already got a belting from Digicel in that area. Now Telikom is trying its luck.

With a million handsets in the hands of PNGeans with each using K2 worth of credits a day would see BeMobile make K1 million per day. K1million x 365 days = K365 million (or between K300m and K400m) smiling all the way to the bank.

I hope the board and management of BeMobile read this and we see something happening if and when they get the K40million from ADB and sell off its Solomon Islands for K20million.

 
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Re: Turn Around Strategy for BeMobile - Yes We Can!!!

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July 22 2011, 9:23 PM 

My point exactly. I have my entire family on Bmobile. We talk for hours on it but then everyone we know is on Digicel.

I have over K100 worth of credits on my bmobile but no-one to call. I use digicel to call digicel and that is killing.

Anyone out there know any bmobile executives? Tell them 1,000,000 handsets out there urgently!!!

 
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Gotta love bemobile's TURBO!

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July 24 2011, 7:23 PM 

Mangi Wosera convert your K100 credits into K500 turbo credits and call Digicel for Free! Its the best deal around! Thats' why thousands are moving back to bemobile.

Gotta love Turbo!

 
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Re: Gotta love bemobile's TURBO!

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July 24 2011, 11:51 PM 

Thousands are NOT moving back to Bemobile. Wanna know why? Poor, poor coverage. Stop your propaganda, everyone can see thru it. The word on the street is that Bemobile is on the financial ropes.

 
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Stop kissing your white mastas behinds Mr Digicel coconut....

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July 26 2011, 10:25 AM 

Stop kissing your white masters assess at Digicel and ask them why are they running scared pumping more cash into their advertising campaign after bemobile took 100,000 customers off them in the last three months. They can't compete with turbo and triple bonus top ups because they would rather keep ripping Papua New Guineans off with their high call rates (highest in Southern Hemisphere!)

 
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Re: Stop kissing your white mastas behinds Mr Digicel coconut....

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July 28 2011, 6:45 PM 

Mate, BeMobile didn't take 100,000 customers off of anyone. It makes no sense to come up with that number, considering that the total population of Moresby is less than 300,000 and not every human in POM has a mobile phone.

Get real. If you're going to lie, at least give a figure that makes sense.

 
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Stop the idiotic 1 million handsets idea.......

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July 22 2011, 10:46 PM 

Any company that's in the dire financial situation as Bemobile has no money for 1 million handsets. Get off the clouds, come down to reality, and understand that BeMobile HAS BLOWN IT. Businesses never have infinite chances to keep correcting their mistakes. If they want to survive they can't make stupid business mistakes in the first place. Bemobile has failed. There will be no million free handsets, only extinction. Why? Because they never extended their range and coverage in PNG in the early stages as was critical to do. Now they're suffering. The end is near.

 
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is it going to be a painful or peaceful death for bemobile?

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July 24 2011, 4:14 PM 

will it leave any broken hearts behind, some heads rolling? can the directors start putting in place a strategy to control the expectations and fallout with BeMobile subscribers?

i am sure they're working around the clock with plans a, b, c etc... to find alternative funding to bankroll. they should also have a plan Z otherwise they will have failed their responsibility to plan for all the possibilities.

this provides an opportunity for some pngeans to form a consortium and wait for the BeMobile house of cards to crash and they move in to find the gems in the rubble and rebuild bemobile.

 
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I will support Bmobile

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July 25 2011, 9:24 AM 

Look, I do not know about the rest of you but I am a fiercely nationalistic PNGan and I hate it when the Chinese or the Irish (digicel) kicks the pek2 out of PNG.

Just because the kumuls are losing every game because of stupid selections or whatever does not mean I am going to stop supporting them, I will turn off the TV because I can't bear to watch but I will support them for as long as I live.

I say the same for Bmobile. I will personally buy 100 handsets and hand them out to my friends. The last time they had those orange alcatel handsets out at K20, I bought 10 of them. I did that because I am a Papua New Guinean who refuses to stand by and watch a PNG company being brutalised by a foreignor.

Bmobile, mipla ol die hard PNG mipla stap, just get the handsets out there, mi ino bisi lo ol traitor stap nabaut. I will do my bit and buy 100 handsets.

 
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Re: I will support Bmobile

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July 25 2011, 12:07 PM 

Isn't half of Bemobile owned by foreigners ie Steamships? So get off the nationalist crap. If Bemobile was 100% owned by native Papua New Guineans (not fly by night naturalised citizens), I could see your point. But in view of the truth of Bemobile you're stretching things a lot.

 
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nox kon

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July 25 2011, 9:32 PM 

Digicel is 100% owned by a foreigner Dennis O'brien.

Bemobile is over 60% owned by IPBC, Nasfund, Nambawan Supa and IPBC. Steamships owns another 20% and it is 30% owned by Nasfund. So bemobile is majority PNG owned.


 
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Re: nox kon

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July 26 2011, 11:17 AM 

Tok idai

Go do your research!!

Be mobilbe share holders

So the share break-up was
50% IPBC
50% GEMS

But it is now
46.5% IPBC (IPBC, Nambawan Super, BSP, Nasfund etc is held by IPBC)
46.5% GEMS (Triology, Steamships etc is held by GEMS)
7% ADB - which bought 3.5% from each with a K40m debt equity

...mE

 
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Re: nox kon

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July 26 2011, 11:24 AM 

mE.. go do your research.

IPBC owns 50% & Capital Way owns 50%. Capital way is owned by GEMS, Nasfund, Nambawan Supa, PNGSDP, Steamships. IPBC is owned by PNG Gavman.

 
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Re: nox kon

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July 26 2011, 12:54 PM 

@ Tok Inda

Here is your first assessment:
Bemobile is over 60% owned by IPBC, Nasfund, Nambawan Supa and IPBC. Steamships owns another 20% and it is 30% owned by Nasfund. So bemobile is majority PNG owned.

This is your ammended version:
IPBC owns 50% & Capital Way owns 50%. Capital way is owned by GEMS, Nasfund, Nambawan Supa, PNGSDP, Steamships. IPBC is owned by PNG Gavman.

So who needs to do a research?

mE stand corrected.

..mE

 
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has the K40m debt equity been transacted?

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July 26 2011, 11:50 AM 

reading from all these posts i thought it wasn't going through?

bebobile should come out publicly with the last life support from ADB of K40m and tell pngeeeans that it will die shortly when the K40m runs dry.

There is enough sympathy vote in the pockets of pngeans to turn around its fortunes.

Just that bemobile is thinking and doing rocket science stuff that is not applicable in PNG.

The advantages bemobile already have is:
- all pngeans now know bemobile offers the cheapest call rates
- there is enough sympathy out there if pngeans know it will die.

lets face the reality and tell all pngeans that we're about to be buried. hillary clinton used that strategy (sympathy vote/support theory) against obama and it nearly worked. just that time ran out for her. bemobile has all the time in the world but cash will run out.

 
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Most of Bmobile is PNG owned, which is good enuf for me

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July 26 2011, 12:16 PM 

Look, I was not happy with Bmbile when Peter Loko was in charge and they were ripping us off. Given what some of you have posted here, I am convinced the company is significantly PNG owned.

How much of Digicel is PNG owned? Zero percent?

I am nationalistic enough to buy 100 mobile fons and give them free to my friends and associates. I know that there are enough nationalists around like, Rob Agarobe, Philip Ralda, Stanley Gene, etc, etc who would do the same if Bmobile simply asked.

Run a campaign called "Baim fon na helpim Wantok".

I am the sort of person that would start chasing foreignors out 2moro if I had to.

My issue is that there has to be something in it for us, we can't just be users of services, we have to own the services as well. Even if we own 20%, that's good enough for me (even though more would be better). I guess being from East Sepik, I was born thinking like this.

All you true PNG sons and daughters, please stand up!!!

Bmobile, are you guys reading this thread?

 
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mangi wosera i like your patriotism

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July 26 2011, 12:37 PM 

bemobile is in the ICU unit so its not reading the thread. we'll whip digicel like tomorrow if bemobile asks us what is it that is inhibiting it from having a true go at digicel.

here it is posted in pngscape. this is not academic research ******** but true feelings from pngeans. just that bemobile might have deep pockets and doesn't want to listen to its customers.

 
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Digicel to flog Telikom in its Data Business

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July 26 2011, 7:03 PM 

Digicel is now working on stripping off Telikom's corporate data services clients. Telikom should be worried about maintain its systems to keep these customers but instead its investing in Citifon, a network with very bad reception and the internet dongle is very complicated to establish connections to the internet.

Telikom lets worry about the business we already have and maintain it then doing things ad hoc doing one thing leaving it half finished or completely run-down and jumping to the next.

Below is an excerpt from a Telikom employee (don't you worry Digicel will give Telikom a wakeup call):

As an employee of Telikom PNG it is my duty to support the organisation I work for to connect more Papua New Guineans to meet the government's goal, however network is only available in urban areas to connect whilst the majority of the population in the rural areas are lacking in these vital services. I have from time to time pushed for expansion of network so that we can go out there and get the population connected but the management seem to take no notice of the problem faced out here in ???? where I'm working and also in the outskirts of every urban centre.

Following up on the expansion of the network had not been looked into but yet Telikom Management is pressuring us poor customer sales representatives on the ground to connect more. We are not in a position to connect more customers as the switches have reached their full capacity and there is congestion. There is a very desperate need to put up more base stations and be consistent in expanding to be able to connect the entire population. The Fibre optic cable connecting Madang to Guam making Madang to be the second internet gateway is sitting idle. Only few major business customers numbering less than 5 got connected. The Madang population wants to get connected onto the network but the cost is not affordable to them. Minimum megabyte plan is 1GB with installation cost of K1029.00 with a monthly rental charge of K3705.00.

Can someone give a wake up call to Telikom Management to extend its network and connect more people? They're concentrating to expand in Port Moresby only forgetting the bigger picture in connecting the entire PNG.

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Telikom and BeMobile don't watch this space with seriousness but Digicel does and don't you worry it will give Telikom a reality check.


 
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Digicel to flog Telikom in its Data Business

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July 26 2011, 7:32 PM 

Digicel is now working on stripping off Telikom's corporate data services clients. Telikom should be worried about maintain its systems to keep these customers but instead its investing in Citifon, a network with very bad reception and the internet dongle is very complicated to establish connections to the internet.

Telikom lets worry about the business we already have and maintain it then doing things ad hoc doing one thing leaving it half finished or completely run-down and jumping to the next.

Below is an excerpt from a Telikom employee (don't you worry Digicel will give Telikom a wakeup call):

As an employee of Telikom PNG it is my duty to support the organisation I work for to connect more Papua New Guineans to meet the government's goal, however network is only available in urban areas to connect whilst the majority of the population in the rural areas are lacking in these vital services. I have from time to time pushed for expansion of network so that we can go out there and get the population connected but the management seem to take no notice of the problem faced out here in ???? where I'm working and also in the outskirts of every urban centre.

Following up on the expansion of the network had not been looked into but yet Telikom Management is pressuring us poor customer sales representatives on the ground to connect more. We are not in a position to connect more customers as the switches have reached their full capacity and there is congestion. There is a very desperate need to put up more base stations and be consistent in expanding to be able to connect the entire population. The Fibre optic cable connecting Madang to Guam making Madang to be the second internet gateway is sitting idle. Only few major business customers numbering less than 5 got connected. The Madang population wants to get connected onto the network but the cost is not affordable to them. Minimum megabyte plan is 1GB with installation cost of K1029.00 with a monthly rental charge of K3705.00.

Can someone give a wake up call to Telikom Management to extend its network and connect more people? They're concentrating to expand in Port Moresby only forgetting the bigger picture in connecting the entire PNG.

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Telikom and BeMobile don't watch this space with seriousness but Digicel does and don't you worry it will give Telikom a reality check.


 
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Re: Digicel to flog Telikom in its Data Business

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July 27 2011, 10:28 AM 

I like the term "poor customer sales representatives on the ground". The Telikom sales representatives by and large ARE very poor. They don't know how to handle any unusual requests, and they don't follow up on customer requests or complaints. Telikom customer service has always been very poor, and despite all the inspirational slogans and signs posted in offices or sent in memos to the sales representatives, there has never been the accountability mechanisms put in place that can ensure that the sales reps don't slack off and actually perform.

IF Digicel puts more effort into training and accountability, there's no doubt in my mind that they'll take away Telikom's business clients.

What astounds me is that the Telikom management, all very educated Papua New Guineans, seem so ineffective at counteracting this. It's like they're not even giving Digicel a fight! I reckon it's because their high position and pay gives them this attitude that they're now "big men" and don't have to do any real work. Thus, the empire collapses under them.

 
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Is Bmobile a lost cause?

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July 27 2011, 11:05 PM 

I agree with the analysis by the Telikom employee.

Right now because digicel has the best network, they just rip us off both voice and data. I am now using a digicel dongle because the bmobile one is too difficult to use. I bought it, tried to operate it and gave up. It's back in the box. I bought the excess phone and I cant be bothered to use it because it drops off too much. I bought 2 citifons because they said I could only have two, I wanted to buy 20 but they did not have enough.

So now I do not use my citifon either because if I had 20, I could give one each to all my friends and we could chat. As it is, I m not sure who has them. nobody I know has citifon.

So bmobile what's happening with you pipol? Yupla less a? It's getting to the point where it is so difficult helping you guys because you won't allow us to help you.

The good thing for me is that my entire family is on bmobile so we can talk for hours and get triple topups when it comes around. I just can't find enough work people on bmobile so I have to buy digicel credits. Come on bmobile, mi les pinis lo givim man blo mi long ol kam man.

 
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Re: Is Bmobile a lost cause?

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July 28 2011, 12:05 AM 

Your analysis is quite good and you state the problems nicely. I find it hard to believe that people sometimes come here to promote Bemobile as if they are employees yet none of these promoters seem to be able to answer the tough questions like the ones you've put out.

Good thinking.

 
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traim turbo

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July 28 2011, 8:57 AM 

traim turbo. It comes with free call minutes to Digicel phones.

 
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fed up

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July 28 2011, 12:44 PM 


bemobile cannot compete against Digicel. Three years ago we had 100% market share, today we have just under 11% and our subscriber base has more or less stood still.

Telikom realized this and flicked their 50% share quietly off to IPBC to set up their own network in competition. So far the evidence leans to BeMobile having its market share being eroded further as a result of Telikom's citifon.

Today's announcement that Post PNG has done a rebrand of moni kwik through use of mobile phones is another nail in the coffin for us. What the advertisement in the National does not clearly say is that mobile phone banking only works on Digicel for the Post PNG product. Digicel also has strong tie ups with BSP and other finance haus

The bemobile management is worked very hard but we have been let down by the Board which comprises people with no real Telco experience and an outfit called GEMS run out of Hong Kong who never understood this market, nor believed brains could be found locally. We never invested enough in the network day one and dis has come back to burn us now.

To make up for the trading losses we are now selling a business we should never have got into 1st place - bemobile Solomon Islands and we hope to raise US $18-20 million. Digicel with its deep pockets is the obvious buyer. This should allow some breathing space for us, but with Digicel having such an aggressive market presence, i cannot see how we recover.

Sad but True

 
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try listening to the complaints about Bemobile!!!!!!!!!

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July 28 2011, 6:42 PM 

Don't you get it? How many times do you have to be told? The problem with Bemobile is POOR COVERAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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fed up

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July 29 2011, 11:04 AM 

I agree with you. My point although not well expressed is that why did we waste money on Solomon Islands when we should have used that money to strategically add value to existing network. The Bemobile Board had no mandate to do this.

Fed Up

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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August 3 2011, 1:35 PM 

This is amazing. A thread of more than 80 responses and none of us knows what started the thread. Remarkable!

 
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Re: Be Mobile Cash strapped

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August 3 2011, 2:50 PM 

Thread is too long. Its been locked. If you want to keep talking about bemobile v digicel, etc then please restart thread.


 
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