Anyone who's kid was there last year have any reasonable commentary? I don't need the "cash grab" BS thanks, just wondering if the program is worth attending.

My kid really enjoyed it. Good value for the money I thought.

The only part I didn't like was the heavy sales job from the OHL clubs, but that wasn't all that bad.

Some good info sessions, good hockey, good coaching.

Not saying it's life changing, but I'd go again.

I have had 3 boys go into the program. You said it cash grab, wont help your kid get drafted, wont help your kid make under 18/20's, But it does fund the hockey programs. If you are a real top 15 in Ontario, you dont need to attend. 4 centers with 4 teams, do the math.

Oh sorry U16 great value. U17 as I said above.

Exactly who said it was gonna help your kid make the draft. You are an idiot.
To the poster, this is excellent weekend and my son loved it. Well worth it.

an awesome experience...well worth the $$$
has nothing to do with draft but its off the chart in terms of "fun factor" for the kids

I can't attend my cock is over 16"

If you do the math on what a player gets, cash grab BS is just nonsense. My son really enjoyed all parts of it and we were extremely glad we sent him. We would do it again.

I will tell you the spring/summer leading up to the Minor Midget year can be pretty expensive. Choose wisely. I would do this OHF Camp again, then dryland program and skating but that's it.

We also did some spring hockey, which in hindsight should have passed on. It's almost like people see a dollar sign on your forehead because you're a minor midget AAA dad.

Good luck.

My son attended last year and absolutely loved it. He was really glad that he went. Great experience. But not all kids get to go. There are only so many spots and some of the kids on my sons team did not get the invite. So it is not a gimme that you will get in. If you do, definitely go!

It's not by invitation, it's a draw from among those who apply, see the ohf website.

correct, a random draw. but limited, unfortunately, to AAA players. Short sighted move by ohf. should at least include AA.

OP here;

Is it really a random draw? Do they not consider the talent pool and make sure that the better players get the nod?

I found the odds of getting in were greatly diminished if you applied towards the end of the deadline, based on who I spoke with anyway....

True talent always = opportunity!

If your son gets in then people say it's by invite. If your son doesn't get in then they say it's a random lottery. Not sure anyone here knows how they pick. I would think they try to get representation from every team and use the stats and position to make choices. I think even the top teams will have kids that don't make it through just because they want to spread the wealth.

If anyone has actual language on this please share it.

Had a son who went through it a few years ago and one now. Previously it was apply with your money and first ones in get a spot. Now they collect all the apps and place AAA as priority and if there are too many then they will weed out a few but still better than what it was and worth the effort.

If your kid is a top 3 forward or top 2 d on your team then they will get in if they apply. OHF wants the best kids to pick the U16 from so they won't put the top kids in a lottery.

There is no longer a U16 team. That was scrapped two years ago.

My son received a letter in the mail inviting him to apply. Does that mean his application will likely be accepted? There are players on his team who didn't receive a letter, so just wondering?

Everyone eventually gets the letter. They go to all members 1997 birth year of the OHF. AA and A players get it also.

If you want your son to participate, getting the application in sooner than later may help his chances of being accepted. It is a lottery who ultimately attends.

I thought there was an Under 16 team again this year

For all you lazy asses, quotes from the OHF website:

All male players who were born in 1997 and are carded to a team registered within the OHF in the
season for which they are applying to participate in the program are eligible to apply. Priority will be given to players who are playing at the AAA level. Players are only eligible to participate in the program once.

A random lottery selection process will be used to determine which players are registered. Players will be grouped and a certain amount of players will be chosen from each group. There are parameters in place to ensure that each participating OHF Member Partner (ALLIANCE, GTHL, NOHA, OMHA) has a certain number of players participating in the program.

If you want more than that, go look it up yourself.

http://www.ohf.on.ca/web_pages/dev_under16.php

What about the tournament style deal they did in 2010 ( team omha, team alliance etc) I could have sworn the Alliance was searching for a coach for this?

Gone never to return!

Anyone know of any good power skating schools out there? I don't want a school who advertises power skating and has 40 kids of different levels on the ice racing up and down. Skating basis of great hockey players so looking for good skating school.

where?

Live in the GTA but will drive to surrounding areas if needed.

11:43 that's not what it says. It says

"The program is open to all male players who were born in 1997 and are registered within the OHF; priority will be given to players competing at the AAA Level. All teams will be coached by OHL and OHF Member Partner personnel. "

No mention of a lottery.

keep reading you dumb shit

lol

It was under the FAQ.http://www.ohf.on.ca//web_doc/gen_pdf/2012_u16_faq_1.pdf


Next time be more clear. BTW it sounds like the registration process is a lottery and then they select from there. So if your lucky enough to get registered, then how do they select you? I think I'm right in my interpretation.


Who is eligible to apply for the 2012 Program?

Players - All male players who were born in 1997 and are carded to a team registered within the OHF in the
season for which they are applying to participate in the program are eligible to apply. Priority will be given to
players who are playing at the AAA level. Players are only eligible to participate in the program once.
Coaches – Any coach currently registered within the OHF who is coaching a team within the OHF in 2011-12
or will be coaching a team within the OHF in 2012-13. Coaches must be NCCP and Speak Out certified.
Trainers – Any trainer currently registered within the OHF who is the trainer for a team within the OHF in the
2011-12 season or has previous experience and anticipates being a trainer in the 2012-13 season. Trainers
must be HTCP and Speak Out Certified.


What is the player registration process?

Players - A random lottery selection process will be used to determine which players are registered. Players
will be grouped and a certain amount of players will be chosen from each group. There are parameters in
place to ensure that each participating OHF Member Partner (ALLIANCE, GTHL, NOHA, OMHA) has a
certain number of players participating in the program.
Coaches and Trainers – Staff will be selected in consultation with Member Partner staff and references as
deemed necessary.

The politically correct way is to "say" it is done by a random lottery......................Reality is they want the best players there hence the " priority will be given to AAA players."

Right, but there are AAA players and there are AAA players. Do the Marlies get the same number of players admitted as the Timmins Eagles (not picking on anybody, but those are the top and bottom rated teams this week)?

One would think that the organizers would want to load up on the best available talent, rather than be politically correct and apply a socialistic bent to the process.

My son is a 96 and we went to Barrie last year. Great event, we had our son dropped off first day and we only showed up to the last day on Sunday. He really enjoyed it.

As far as "best" players that was not the case. As far as I could tell it was a mixed bag of kids, almost all AAA from GTHL, OMHA and Alliance centres. Don't think we saw any Ottawa area or Northern ON kids as they most likely selected those camps being closer for them.

What was interesting was watching some of the really elite kids play on a mixed team of players, without the supporting cast they normally have.

At the end of the day, level of player is irrelevant. It is a learning weekend to get some understanding re options as far as the OHL, nutrition, education, training, etc.

Good points. It was a great experience and also an opportunity for them to tell you how great the OHL is for your kid. I get the sense they are afraid of losing players to NCAA. Probably the same reason they have moved up the draft date to April 7 from May.

You as the parent need to ensure they are exposed to ALL messages and "steered" in the right direction!

Sounds like a unique opportunity, and for the money seems like good value, considering that the cost includes accommodations. Just further fuel for the kid's dream. We got the application and submitted it. My son is really hoping he's selected.

We did the same. Anybody know when the succesful applicants will be notified?

http://www.ohf.on.ca//web_doc/gen_pdf/2012_u16_faq_1.pdf


When will I know whether I have been registered for the program?
Players and staff will be contacted via email at a date which is to be determined. Some players/staff may be
contacted at a later date if those registered are unable to participate.
Players will be required to confirm their registration by submitting payment by the deadline date, which will be
determined once the application period closes.

Feb 15 2:10pm the application submission deadline is Feb 20th...you'll be notified via email

I seem to recall getting notification in mid to late March?

All AAA kids get a letter invitation to apply. From my experience last year, not all kids (or parents) thought it was worth going, so they didn't apply. But ALL kids get the letter. My kid applied and was accepted and he was really glad that he went. He had a great time and still talks about it. I have to laugh at the stupid parents that thought it was just a money grab and didn't send their kids. Yet they think that spending 7,000-10,000 for crappy coaching every year isn't a money grab!

My son went, he was playing A hockey at the time & he had a great time, definitely some of his best hockey memories and made some good friends that he still talks to on FB, etc. As far as 'cash grab' goes, I thought it was a pretty good value considering everything he got.

Fact. ALL kids playing AAA get the letter of invitation.

Wrong, they all get a letter to apply. They then select who gets invited.

why wouldn't you go if invited??

Cash Grab!

why wouldnt you go?

great hockey.
new friends
cool weekend experience.
great education for parents at seminars


and my buddy went down to his kids camp last year without his wife, and he banged at milf hockey mom on the saturday night!

an experience of a lifetime for father and son.

"cash grap"? It's a friggin cash grap all season! Why not do something worthwhile and create a great memory for your kid with your cash (better than giving it to joe blow's hockey school! - which you will be doing anyway in July and August with your regular team)

1:58 Yeah, right.

we went last year was $400. Hotels included for Kids as well as food so hardly was a cash grab. Well worth the trip and get to play 2 or 3 games.

Cash grab or not, if you get something out of it then it's worth it. And it sounds like a lot of people got a lot out of it. Win Win situation.

If your counting your cash your kid is second. It was fantastic and would never rethink doing that.

Gotta laugh to myself at all the nay sayers. My kid did this last year and it was totally awesome for the the kids, parents, and all who watched

Thank God for the nay sayers or my kid may have been one of the unfortunate ones who never got this opportunity of a lifetime

A bargain @ $400!!!

Funny, I drop the two words "Cash Grab" and everyone jumps into to defend.

My son went last year and loved it. You people are so damed gullible. LOL

10:55 you're kid played A and got in?

no way!!

All you myopic GTHL people need to recognize there some places/centres don't have AAA and given the OHF mandates represention across the province, not surprising.

when is the application deadline

For all you lazy asses, quotes from the OHF website:

All male players who were born in 1997 and are carded to a team registered within the OHF in the
season for which they are applying to participate in the program are eligible to apply. Priority will be given to players who are playing at the AAA level. Players are only eligible to participate in the program once.

A random lottery selection process will be used to determine which players are registered. Players will be grouped and a certain amount of players will be chosen from each group. There are parameters in place to ensure that each participating OHF Member Partner (ALLIANCE, GTHL, NOHA, OMHA) has a certain number of players participating in the program.

If you want more than that, go look it up yourself.


http://www.ohf.on.ca/web_pages/dev_under16.php

thanks

WHERE IS THE SCHEDULE?

You wont get one until you show up. That's when you'll be assigned a team and a schedule.

2012 Schedule is up

Watched the camp today in Vaughan. What a great experience for the kids. Fitness, seminars, practices, games. All coaches and speakers from OHL teams. Great experience at a great price. $425 for hotel fees, ice time for practices and games, all meals included. Just talked to my kid and he is thanking us for enrolling him in this as he is having a great time and meeting new people from all over Ontario. Amazing!!

Yup, my boy is quite happy. Lots of fun, no pressure learning experience. If they are making money while keeping cost this low they deserve it.

Yup sounds really good our boy is really looking forward to his experience next weekend in the shwa

sorry just another cashgrab your kid is in beer league in 2 years

no - all the kids in this camp are going to the show ... their parents said so

You guys are all fu$$ed up. It's not about getting drafted you idiots. Put your friggen egos aside. Its about a learning experience for the kids with good coaches, having fun and meeting new people. My kid loves it and well worth the money.

You had to pay? My guy had his taken care of by his OHL team...

My kid's agent gave him a grand to go. Thought it would be good for him but felt bad he had to give up a weekend.

My kid decided not to go .... because he is going in Round 1,so he doesn't need to prove himself or make new friends and have fun.

You guys are too funny LOL!!!!!!

My kid loves it so much, he will be going to the other camps. After 2nd camp, he will be coaching. He was already asked. Actually, this camp turned the lights on for him. Now, no one can stop him. Watch him go.

Figure it out meat heads, the above posters are all pissed off dads who's sons didn't get selected that's why they are bashing this thread.
Well guess what???? My son is an A player never played one game of AAA in his life and was in the camp this weekend. And guess what? he was approached by NOT 1 BUT 2 scouts! HAHA!!!!!

If your son didn't get in your screwed.
All the scouts are here, they have been watching the kid's every move, these kids are now the top of the pile, their names are household with the scouts and agents who have been hanging on the kids every move.
Any kid not here is way behind, will get lost in the crowd next season.
Too bad for you!!

Sorry 9:46
That's not how it goes, and it's because you and your kid were never there!.....nice try though!

My big fat Italian cock is 17" so i cant compete in any under 16" camp

my cock is 5" and my boyfriend loves it so fuck you and your 17"

My kid was in Vaughn this weekend loved every minute of it but wasn't approached by any scouts or agents, does this mean we will not get selected in the draft next year

That's because there weren't any scouts/agent there. Don't sweat it, they'll approach eventually if there is reason to.

Cash grab> Hear it! Cash grab!

know some who answered the email, they ppaid the cash, were told they were elite and they play aa can't even make a aaa team

A bunch of the top kids were approached by agents in Bantam.

You people should stop being so bitter. So your kid didn't get in, if it didn't bug you so much you wouldn't be on here badmouthing and being sarcastic about it! My kid was there and loved every minute of it. I was there to watch the games and attend seminars and they were great. Yes I saw scouts there and the coaches were "O" coaches. We're they scouting - maybe, maybe not. Either way the weekend was a priceless experience for the boys who attended! I'm sure if you had been lucky enough to attend your comments would be very different from what you have been writing.

Actually my son attended and had a great time. And I made one of the comments above. Just trying to be funny. Lighten up everyone. And please never take anything on N54 seriously and NEVER believe it is true.

Funny though, all the parents who thought getting a letter about the camp made them feel one step closer to being drafted...

My son wnet and had a great weekend , the hockey was very good and there were scouts there.
If your son did not get in , life still goes on .

My son wnet and had a great weekend , the hockey was very good and there were scouts there.
If your son did not get in , life still goes on .

Yawn - it's a camp with limited spots that parents paid for - not the frikken NHL. Get over yourselves

OK. Thanks Nancy.

This was the best hockey I have watched. Vaughan camp provided great games.
Worth the price.Not one individual team stood out.
Teams were balanced.
Great experience.

My son was at the Vaughan camp and I attended much of it as well. He enjoyed it but wasn't over the top ecstatic about it. He met some new people, got exposed to some things he hadn't heard before. Some stuff was old news. The OHL coaches were good and it’s nice they got to see the boys first hand. Maybe they will file a name or two in the back of their mind for next year.

To be truthful, I have seen better spring hockey in tournaments in the past. I think the pool was a bit watered down - sorry to say. I guess that’s to be expected with 4 separate camps, people out of town, other tournaments going on, people who didn’t get it, etc.

Was it worth the $400+ for the weekend? I guess so. Not absolutely sure though.

What was it with all the "AA" kids there, I thought this was supposed to be a high end camp

My son was there and there was not even one AA kid on his team, nor did he hear of any on other teams. I saw the games and they were much faster and more enjoyable than regular season games. Talent was great and my son along with every other kid I spoke to loved it.

The games were faster than regular season? You are just a show-off proud parent puffing out their fat chest...

I knew of at least 6 AA players at Vaughan Camp

from where ?

My comment above has nothing to do with showing off! Wow we're touchy! I was just stating what I saw. Sorry for giving my honest opinion. I never said my son had an advantage because of being there but he and all other kids who were there were very fortunate to have been there. Every kid out there was giving 110% which made the hockey very fast and enjoyable.

Defensive, mommy?

No AA players, too many AAA applicants couldn't get in on this camp for them to randomly choose AA kids

there was a kid that is playing for Brampton AA next year at camp

We were there, and I only know of one AA kid, although he was AAA the past few years. If there were any others, there were not many. My son thought it seemed a bit slower than usual. I personally thought the first game was a bit slow, but then it picked up pretty well for the next 2. Probably as kids became more comfortable with each other. My son enjoyed it, got a lot out of the nutrition and psychology seminars, playing with other kids, getting a few words from OHL guys. I'd recommend it.

Maybe playing AA next year but the boys there were based on where they played last season.

It's obvious this thread will keep getting negative posts from people who's kids didn't get in. Who cares! Why dwell on this? Let it go and enjoy the 'off' season and worry about hockey come August/September.

Were there any standout future superstars there?

Some kids were definitely not AAA. I watched the green team and saw at least 3 kids; one in particular that would be challenged to make 'A' hockey. Watched the white team, and there were at least 3-5 kids that had no business there. But, I am sure they got to see some good hockey if not played it.

You are an ASS - I asked you to point out the superstars, not take a stab at other people's kids....loser.

No one was waiting to get in. Anyone could go. Someone called my house on Thursday last week wondering if my kid was sure he didn't want to come out and he plays HL but had 67 goals last year.

Don't believe the 1:27 idiot; all 4 teams were full of quality AAA players. No 'A' or 'HL' players in sight.

excellent weekend........hockey was very good.......all AAA kids from various centres. Great experience for the boys........lots of scouts.

So what if there were a few AA players at the camp. I am sure there were AAA kids at the camp that will be playing AA next year too. Just relax and enjoy the last year or two of watching your boy play hockey. Unless you will still go and watch him play at 11pm in the beer leagues.

There were 6 teams and all kids played AAA this last season. I personally know a couple of kids who didn't get into any of the camps.

My son went, loved it, got a lot out of it. All the games were close except the final game on Sunday at 4:30 and that was predictable - they'd all skated their asses off all weekend. Great experience and would recommend to any AAA, OHL bound or not.

4 AA Terriers were there, but they are really AAA anyway..right REPS ? (4-1 loss)

Zero AA players.

Get real everyone. If someone didn't get in its because your cheque bounced or you were too old!

1230 - were you in kitchener ? white storm team v red rangers was a great game. tell me v numbers who shouldnt have been there.

9:42 I think he was in Vaughan

Really short goalie in Kitchener

the Sports village in Vaughan was the wrong place to host this. it did not have the "feel" of an OHL rink or program.

the camps hosted in OHL cities on actual OHL rinks should have a much better feel to them.

fuck off

Fuck off??

really?

I can only assume that you are the guy who designed the sports village and are upset by the previous posters critique of that practise rink.

5:09
You are a tool.

No asshole, I'm a guy who took my kid there this weekend and it was an absolutely perfect facility for this type of thing. How the fuck are you going to fit that many kids into an OHL arena, plus feeding facilities, meeting rooms, etc?! Just cuz you're stupid doesn't mean you have to let everyone else know it.

My kid loved it. OHL coaches, OHL speakers, informative seminars on nutrition, sports psycology. Also a seminar by head coach of St. Michael's Major, assistant coach of Brampton Batallion, GM of Peterborough Petes about a typical day in the OHL and typical day at Canadian University by head coach of York University hockey. Good hockey and good mental preparation for the next level. Well worth the money.

Heading to Windsor for camp. WFCU facitlity, home of the Windsor Spitfires will be the best facility.

windsor camp was added last resort..........and easiest to get in.......that and Sudbury!

You are so full of shit. LOL

My kid went to the Windsor camp a few years back & it was excellent. The facility was awesome and they took all the kids & parents on a tour of the Spitfires arena, dressing rooms etc. It was great!

9:45 Oh and let me guess, your camp was the hardest to get in and your son made it. Must be GTHL.

Funny how some believe hockey ends at GTHL lines!! Get you head out of your ass and wipe the shit from your eyes! Alliance Hockey has some great teams/players in these areas.

Sounds so much like the 96 Alliance group. They got their asses handed to them in the OHL Cup and in the draft. Try spitting instead of swallowing.

Shock, G super-teams recruited from all over.

Keep crowing about last years G crop. This year is different. Teh OMHA will dominate the first (and every) round. The Alliance has a bunch of quality kids as well. WEAK crop in the G. WHy do you think so many kids have left? The once mighty G is teh B league in the 97 age group. The reigning OHF champs (Marlies) won't even with the G this year.

So why is it so quiet all of a sudden? There are still U16 camps in progress. Oh ya, that's right, the Vaughan camp was last week with all the G kids in it...

doh...they can't possibly acknowledge that they weren't the only kids "drafted" to a camp run by OHL

Are there other camps? Thought it was just Vaughan. The world's borders are beyond the G? Wow! Global Expansion has started! Must be why we are having global warming because of the heat of expansion.

lol ^^^^

Very Good experience, we are in Ottawa currently and the information seminars on Nutrition, Drug awareness and Fitness are excellent. Kids have made a few new friends and have had some good Ice sessions and excellent Off ICe Dryalnad sessions run by the Ottawa Senators. Ottawa 67 s had Cocy Ceci come to a seminar and speak to the kids along with the Ottawa Head Coach, it was a very informative session on Education and expectations.
Food has been excellent and the kids have been looked after very well.
Only negative was the rostering of teams perhaps could have been more balanced for the exhibition games, other than that..it has been a fantastic experience that shows the kids there are a lot of good Hockey players out there.
And yes there are perhaps 1-10 AAA caliber players out of 80 kids here.

Well Done OHL..its been a Good weekend.

Are you talkin Oshawa? U16 camp

No, he's talking about an inferior camp in Ottawa. It's not like the 5 main camps, it's one for lower level players. The ones that went will tell you it's the same as the others; there are SOME parallels, but it's not like the real deal.

Got it,

I have been watching the teams in Oshawa at the GM center over the weekend..... excellent talent

May 3 4:07....spitting worked for you ?

Nope he swallowed for years

Great weekend in Oshawa, my son loved it o if anyone is on here to say it is just a money grab, that means your kid wasn't there, because every kid there loved thank you from my son and I for this wonder full experiance

Hic!

buddy..are you really on here thanking the organizers of the U16 camp?

do you think they get up and login to NW54 and check this thread for input and ideas for their program??

glad your son had fun, but leave it at that.

I was thinking the same thing when I read that message.

Let's get back to CASH GRAB! At least the Real N54 viewers will read this post! LOL

Wasn't thanking the organizers was thanking all the kids and I'm not buddy I'm Mrs to you

You people are jacked, Do you see all the things they get? You spend money on bullshit tournaments in the summer like "Prospects" in Toronto to get EXPOSURE and be in front of scouts. Here you get 6 total icetimes, underamour gear, nutrition advice, education advice, and most importantly SCOUTED and viewed by most OHL teams GUARANTEED~!

You would be stupid to think this to be a cash grab.

ok

Just like a creepy photographer.
"you have what it takes to be famous..all you need to do is pay for some modelling pictures and I can get them to the right people"

Anytime you pay to get noticed its a cash grab.

Hockey Canada asks for not a dime.

Please list the names of players who did not pay for U17 who play for Hockey Canada?

great experience for kids

3 nights accommodation,fed all weekend as well.
3 nights with meals all weekend in cheap hotel is more than four hundred..

Worth every cent

awesome experience , worth every cent

was this experience in Sudbury or Windsor ?

Oshawa....GM center

it was a great weekend for the boys!