There are supposed to be 8

And most not from the GTA. Congratulations on the recruiting...and the lawyer on staff to help with the fake this and the fake that.

Marlies have only 2 players on the team who are legit regarding living in the Marlies boundary. The rest are imports and it's pretty sad when Marlie parents come on here bragging about their team winning when they really are an Ontario AAA allstar team who should be restricted to playing outside Ontario teams only.

Why is everyone acting as if they are forced to play for the marlies? All the players made the choice to play with them because of their unprecendented history and excellence. Dont be so jealous of a team that will most likely win the GTHL and OHL cup. Who cares if most the players are imports? They chose not to play with their hometown teams and somethig attracted them to join the Toronto Marlboros. Before you say something, my son played for the 96 Toronto Jr. Canadiens and we were swept by them first round. He would have loved the oppurtuinity to play for the marlies but unfortanetly doesn't have the skill to keep up with them. Instead of trying to find faults with the team, lets applaud and reminisice how great of a hockey team this is. The rebels have their hands full and so do the teams who face off with them during the OHL cup. Again I repeat, if a player does not want to play for the team closest to them than they SHOULD have the choice to leave and join another team.

Legal aid helps these families CHEAT the system. Congratulations.
"My mom and dad are pretending to be divorced/seperated so I can play here...I have two addresses, etc. etc. etc. Way to build character.

So what.

There are rules about jurisdiction and where people can play depending on where they live. Unfortunately the rules seem to be ignored by some organizations. That is the reason there is resentment and why people don`t like having the dominance of some teams rubbed in their face. First you break the rules and then you flaunt the success you get by breaking those rules. Not cool.

Whats cool is your kid isnt good enough and you are jealous. If you have so much evidence of your theory take it to the proper authorities and not N54.

lol Im going to start calling that guy 'Blind Hate"

He keeps ripping every marlboro, complains of fake devorses, its awesome.

Blind Hate or Angry Bitterness, one of the two

divorces.

No problem with allowing the Marlies to recruit from all over. They just shouldn't be able to play against teams who can't. Join the US league where the rules are the same.

Kids have had the best coaching and the best to play with. Have had the best competition to play against. Less room for improvement. This is why G superstars don't turn into NHL players on a regular basis. With the number of high end G champions in the last decade, there are as many NHLers coming out of the O and the Alliance even. Doesn't seem to make sense given the quality and number of G players. What's the explanation?

Who are the 8 kids?

No doubt they're a great team, but to say 8 first rounders, have another one!!!!

Simple. Lack of adversity among the top teams and players that play for them year in and year out. Extra (alot extra) time and space. The current Marlie roster is a case in point.

Honestly, how many of these guys are actually hard, really hard, to play against? Enough of the idol worshiping already because as the above poster points out where are they gonna be 4 years from now?

From here on in it won't be what you can do with all the time and space on your way to a 10-0 win that would make any of our kids look good but what you do when lo and behold you don't have any time, any space and players bigger, better and stronger than you are running you down that counts.

There are maybe 3 or 4 guys that will transition well and of those talked about on here ad nauseum as top draft picks perhaps 2 others and one of them is a 97.

Enjoy the notoriety today and on April 7 cause things are about to change big time come September. And some of these guys with their own fan clubs have no idea whats comin' around the corner at them.

So who are the first rounders.

Don't think we should name names so that 15 year old boys can be torn to shreds on an annonymous forum. They have a few first rounders and if you don't know who they are naming names aint gonna help you unless you are looking for an opportunity to stir.

Leave it alone.

Soo.... Who gives a shit about what that guy says, who are the first rounders, and should they all be there?

Give it a rest.Stay quiet and be humble you bunch of fucktards.

The 8 are: Ho Sang, McDavid, Mckewan, Cramarossa, Bennett, De Sousa, Addison, Lindo

what a f***ing pompous bunch of marlies parents

4 of those mentioned will not be first rounders, especially DeSousa...you're kidding right?

Your missing the top d.

CMD will NEVER get ES .... Too much of a liability if he gets hurt .... Which he would.

8 in the first isnt realistic. There are orher players outside of Toronto you realize.

There'll likely be 9 Marlies and 9 Rebels picked in the first 2 rounds. As for the top 15 picks that isn't set in stone yet but the mix certainly looks pretty clear to most GM's and it includes only as few as 2 and as many as 5 Marlies depending on if McD gets exceptional status or not.

After the first 15, teams will pick a mix of who they like and who they need. Based on the names posted and if that's what folks really believe tune in April 7. You'll be surprised at the players never talked about that go and go high. As usual for hype, the list looks about half right on players if not on the round they go in.

The Rebels and Marlies can account for 16 players in the first 42 selections of the upcoming OHL draft.

Marlies:

McDavid, Ho Sang, Bennett, Mckeown, Cramarossa, Allen, Addison, Desousa, Lindo

Rebels:

Fabbri, Hargraves, Bourne, Herbst, DiPerna, Jenkins, Miller, Centorame, Pastouris is a sleeper pick.

copied from HF boards

I think McDavid, Ho Sang, Mckewan, Bennett, and Cramarossa will be the first round picks

11:22 agree and would add that at this point thse guys already know which teams are seriously targeting them and when.

Between the Rebs and Marlies you'll be lucky to ever see more than two stick in the OHL

Many may be in for a surprise. There's some 97 AE teams being scouted, yes, it will be an interesting draft year!

Son, your mom and I are getting divorced. Yes it is your fault, because we need to do this so i can have you play hockey where I think you should.
Truly an amazing life lesson.

The kid in St Marys AE is a top AAA level player and always has been. It is a hardship case. at 6 4 wiuth a 93 mph shot he will go 1st round.

I want a real divorce...so does theat qualify if my kid want s to on the team or is it only for fake divorced families?

Blind Hate is back! We missed you!

Its funny, your o so vocal on these annonymous forums, yet, when I am at tournaments, you dont say a word. Your a quiet little mouse? I dont get it...

This worked out well for me. She thought it was a fake divorce but I was tired of the bitch. Now I got a new honey.

Will someone help with a real divorce and spot on team for one price or is that separate? Serious replies only please!

still not good enough cause your kid sucks

Many many talented kids on this team. I wish them all good luck for this upcoming draft. The whole team is better then some kids scouts are having a look at.

Let the 5 rounder with nothing to loose and everything to gain stick it to them at camp

Arrogant marlies... must be to start this post

Still can't knock off the 2000 Rebs. Must hurt they can't buy every division.

The 8 are: Ho Sang, McDavid, Mckewan, Cramarossa, Bennett, De Sousa, Addison, Lindo

McD would be a mistake...one good concussion away from no career. Cramarosa doubtful. Bennett not a chance in hell. Nor Addison or Lindo. Marlie parents are delusional. Do you have any idea what's out there beyond Canlan Etobicoke?

Everyone under estimates McD. His by far the best player on the Marlies.Will he have struggles playing against 19 year olds sure but not withstanding where they get drafted there is probably only 3 or 4 Marlies that will have sustainabilty in th OHL. CMcD, RM, JL, maybe JHS

No-one under-estimates McD. It has been known for a long time he is an eilte player.

BIG risks for him playing in a MAN'S league at his size. What is the rush?

Enough of this bullshit about "yeah they're good but lucky if they are around in a couple of years" bulkshit.

Fact: 8 94's currently ranked by NHL Central Scouting for this years upcoming draft.

Fact: 5 93's drafted in the NHL IN THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS last year plus Dougie Hamilton who went to St Catherines in his MM year only because his older brother Freddie (also a 92 Marlie drafted in the NHL the year before) went to the Icedogs.

This may have been a ridiculous thread to begin with but before you start flapping your yaps about these kids get your facts straight. The reality is A LOT of them are gonna be around for a long time like it or not. Speak to an agent/scout or call up your local OHL team for confirmation but believe it or not the 96 group is the deepest group to come along in recent memory.

8:32 is that you Mapleleaf979 lol?

I like how you include former Marlies in your stats but don't exclude all the kids who have been parachuted into this 96 team in recent years from Huron Perth, YSE, Brampton, Markham et al.

Convenient.

The criticism of these players revolves around how many of them (Marlies) will be around in a few years and not how many kids from Huron Perth, YSE, Markham etc. will be around.

I included a kid (9th overall NHL) not because he was "parachuted" into the St Catherine's Falcons- he was- because his older brother went to Niagara but because he was a Marlie.

There isn't anything convenient about the facts. They just are and all this talk about them not being around in a few years is nonsense. They will, and in spades. Regardless of where they came from.

97 marlies group is built on exactly the same model: recruit from everywhere, promise to field a powerhouse, don't worry about import rules, have parent groups run the teams for the sake of possibly getting compensation for having players drafted. This once proud organization has totally lost sight of what good looks like. Good is about teaching life lessons of honesty and integrity in competition. Shame on you Toronto Marlboroughs organization, and shame on you parents for buying in to this crap. And congratulations on all your hardware which somehow justifies all of this.

If you know anything about Ken Strong you know parent groups don't run his team. Kids play his system or don't play, potential 1st rounder or not.

Facts are your friend.

Of course the hardware justifies it. Are you serious. It's about winning hockey games not teaching life lessons. If life lessons are learned along the way so be it. This still proud organization hasn't lost sight of a damn thing- winning hockey games.

If your point is they put wins together dishonestly is that because they recruit the best from anywhere? How in the hell is that relevant? If someone in your town can help win hockey games and the team has import spots available how is that dishonest?

And who the hell is taking such a personal interest in one family's marital status? Shame on YOU. Didn't this family sacrifice and relocate to Toronto and isn't their son going to a local school also.

Now I'd say THAT is an example of sacrificing ones own interest in what they feel is in the best interest of their son. I don't know where they came from but if some of you folks are the ones they left behind I can sure as hell understand why they left.

Jealous, bitter, uninformed, sound bite seeking nincompoops.

If that makes you feel better, enjoy!

Did you get great satisfaction out of hammering Brampton 17-0 over Christmas? Just asking.....

sex, lies and videotape. Marlie 96 Mission Statement.

The fact remains that Hockey Canada prohibits moving to another minor hockey center for the purpose of playing hockey. The Marlies for years have moved 100s of families to the G strictly for the reason of playing hockey while on paper they claim employment changes, school or divorces when if any 2 nd grade prosecutor were to investigate these shady transfers half the GTHL executive would be wearing prison jumpsuits.

1153 1st truly honest thing you've said. The sad truth is no one at Hockey Canada ever investigates further. It is all the way the paperwork is written snd ensuring its accuracy. Everyone knows people move for hockey then school and jobs come later. To blame the Marlies only is just as unfair. The GTHL wants to see its league as the top league so it does not undress a pig.

these last few years have opened my eyes to how much I really love my wife. We are planning a reconciliation April 1st and this time it's for real

Wait until April 8th. If your kid is not drafted try again with someone else.

Hey, 12:27 -- Me Too! We've set April 8th as our reconciliation date too. You must be on our team as well. There's a whole bunch of us. Go Blue Go!

most teams Bantam and above have 7-9 import players (but only 5 official ones).
every team does it, TM is just the best at doing it

11:53
Hold on a sec sparky. Firstly, the OHF and not Hockey Canada has the authority to implement and secondly, no where does it say that families can't pick up and relocate strictly for the purpose of playing hockey and I challenge you to show us otherwise.

Get over it. An habitual residence is just that and that is all you need in lieu of a release. Nobody in a free and democratic society can tell you you aren't free to move or change jobs or get separated or divorced for purposes of hockey or any other damn purpose you choose.

You might not agree but your disagreement and the "rules" aren't one and the same.

Rules, that's a good one. I would say that in Marlie-land, they are more like loose suggestions! LOL

Excellent points.

The guy has been dubbed 'Blind Hate' on here by someone else, and in my opinion its fairly well earned.

No matter how much you prove it otherwise, hes just going to ignore you and provide more hate of the Marlies.

More than one person posting.

I can't wait to sleep in my own bed starting April 8th, this air mattress is killing my back

Can't you move back after the OHL Cup or is your lease up only after the draft? Parkdale is tough that way, eh.....

I hear you can get a real nice, quickie drive-thru marriage (or re-marriage in this case) in Vegas, dirt cheap!

Is this thread about first rounders or where people live and their marriages?

Marlies will have 8 in the first 2 rounds. 6 could go in first round.

Why don't you type it another 8 times to really emphasize what has been repeated ad nauseam so far.

You want to really impress me? Tell me where they are in 4 years.

Kingston....... Prison......LOL!! Wish them them luck and don't hate every step they make. You will be the first to call them your friends and ask for tickets.

Sample of Marlies sure-fire first rounders, where are they now?

2001 Ryan Hastings went 17th overall, Rane Carnegie 18th overall

2003 Chris Lawrence went 6th overall

2004 Justin DiBeneddeto went 18th overall

2005 Akim Aliu went 6th overall, Bryan Cameron 8th overall

2007 Ethan Werek went 9th overall, Michael Zador went 20th overall


Point is, chillax with the predictions already. There is a long, long road ahead for all these kids to earn a single penny from playing this game.

2001 Ryan Hastings went 17th overall - Burnt out
Rane Carnegie 18th overall - Burnt out

2003 Chris Lawrence went 6th overall - 7-8 years of AHL $, now in Europe getting paid

2004 Justin DiBeneddeto went 18th overall - AHL being Paid 6 figures (Under contract to the NY Islanders)

2005 Akim Aliu went 6th overall - AHL being Paid 6 figures (Under Contact to the Calgary Flames)
Bryan Cameron 8th overall - AHL being Paid 6 figures (Under Contact to the Calgary Flames)

2007 Ethan Werek went 9th overall - AHL being Paid 6 figures (Under Contact to the NY Rangers)

Michael Zador went 20th overall - Free university

So of these 8 'worst of' players you found, 4 are under contract to an NHL team, one has free university, one hard a solid AHL/Europe salary, and two burnt out.


If thats the WORST of them, damn.......

All those without "free university" what will they do when they are 30? Hockey school!

You seen how much money you make running a hockey school? What you laughing at?

Terrible life!

Average AHL Salary? $55k! Wow.

More than the average Canadian salary so whats your point.

It fucking sucks dough-head! Go to school, get some skills and earn a GOOD salary....

Remember most of these kids aren't that good at school anyway so they likely aren't gonna make a "good" living without hockey.

Generality. You don't know who is a good student and who is not.

Werek has $67k salary in the AHL, poor kid,

BUT, you are forgetting, the yearly $90k signing bonus that he gets.

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=2020

Aliu around the same thing, so is Cameron.

Sorry dads, be bitter all you want, but the Cash is there.

If thats the WOST of the Marlies, wow, well done.

Facts are your friend

Guess it depends on your perspective. Between my wife and I we probalby make $200k a year, more than the average Canadian I guess. At the same time, living in the GTA is expensive.

Given these guys played for the Marlies they will probably return to the area once hockey has ended.

Given what you suggest is a good salary currently (personally I don't agree), without any kind of trade or education other than running a hockey school I can only see their incomes declining.

If this is what you envision as a good life for your son, go for it!

Personally, I've always encouraged my son to aim high and so far he has.

rick nash

Sidney Crosby

You dont think that earning $100,000k plus a year at worse, with the potential to make 900k at the drop of a hat good? Thats for 7 months of the season. The rest of the time your train and enjoy life. Sign me up...

And thats the WORST of them? Thats the ones that are deemed unsuccessful. Damn, ill take that for my kid. 100k and playing a kids game.

Those were only the first rounders that have not made the show since 2000.

Many more Marlies have washed out of hockey completely. I know of one who played on Rick Nash's line back in the day. He is a warehouseman for a Tire Company in Brampton. Whoohoo, good times!

So in 11 years, there are only 4 that are not making money playing hockey? How many players is that, like 60? That goes against what bitter dads claim, the 'where are they in 4 years crap'. 56/60 are getting paid good money to play hockey, thats impressive.

You can't use the last 3-4 years as they have not yet graduated to pro hockey yet.

In some years there were no Marlies chosen in the 1st round.

Again, it depends on your definition of "good money."

jose theodore

Divorce, Seperation, "Move",
Sex, Lies and Videotape
Teaches your boys a little, or alot about you. Something you can never take away from them.
Good parenting.

Blind Hate! Your back!

Have to ask, why are you so quiet in rinks, your like a tiny little mouse. Your so loud on here, but so quiet in rinks.

Haven't been to a playoff game so far!

Thats to bad, you guys missing the playoffs was perdictable, dont be so quiet Blind Hate, be sure to speak up at the Rink.

sorry Blindhate, thats my ignorant husband. come say hi next time

The 2005 Marlies (89's) were by far the best team the marlies ever had. There is at least 9 playing pro hockey. They had 4 first rounders and would of had 7 but 3 of them had other commitments. 7 went on to be nhl draft picks. 3 in the first round, 2 seconds, 1 third and 1 in the 4th......pretty impressive!

names pls?

Pompous
Ignorant
Divorce
Relocate
Remember your lies
Seperate
Litigate
Lie to your:
child
family
friends
coaches
you fuel your children, the ones who depend on you
with all of these things
it will be done soon
you will want it back eventually
everyone does

Blind Hate!!!!!

Hey, come say hi tonight....last time you where in the rink no one heard you, you where SO quiet, just sitting in the corner not saying anything. Thats wierd, your so loud online.

Looks like Blind Hate finishes up Work at 5:32 lol

Team is dishonest. FACT.

Dishonest?? That doesnt even make sense.

Must be some stupid kid posting, or some loser who never amounted to anything and is now jealous and mad at the world.

Why does TM have players that do not see any ice?

Coaches dictate ice time, just like any team. There are lots of kids who sit more than they should (or think they should). Nothing new or different with that.

Really one kid gets no ice doesnt seem fair no other team i know does this

Kid knew it when he signed up.

He doesnt seem to have an issue with it...

Why do you

Cheaters.....its well known.

hence the name 'Blind Hate'. Guy just bitches and complains, offers nothing but hate. Its now a mockery of him. Another keyboard warrior.

The marlie program needs money andso players are allowed to pay to be along for the ride but not play. There were two players on this years team - one left mid year to make more room on the bench for No. 6.

Good for the marlies for pulling these types as it take a special parent to do this to his kid.

That happens on every team thou. I saw an OMHA team sit another player for 2-3 games, why whernt you up in arms on that.

And as the other poster said, if the kid is fine with it, why do you care?

Lies, Deception, Divorce and Separation. The rule of the day in Marlie land.

Blind Hate! ONce again you grace us with your presence!

I didnt hear you last night, so quiet in the rinks. You should be loud in the rink like you are online

Couldn't hear me in the rinks from all the patting on the backs marlie parents do.....LOL

No, we couldnt here you because your so quiet. Like a tiny little mouse. I see how loud you are online, I have no doubt you can be very loud in rinks. I would hate to see you be labeled as a keyboard warrior.

Thank you for thinking of me, I feel so very honoured that you would actually consider my feelings on your glorious and record-setting march through the dregs of 1996 Minor midget hockey.

Oh truly you are worthy of our praise and respect. A million thank you's to you and a tear has just welled up in my eye to consider your wonderful benevolence!

STFU

Why do you respond? feeling of guilt?

Why? We still have the OHL Cup with which to witness the greatest team in the history of minor hockey!

Word is that the OHF is voting this week to have an asterisk etched beside every Marlie championship due to all their illegal tampering, recruitment and poaching when they bought their team for this season.

Blind Hate. Love it.

Lie and Deceipt. A Day in the life of the Marlies.

Say whatever you will but housekeeping is in order and some very good hockey players get to play at a level they otherwise wouldn't. Is this because they beat you or because your little star wasn't asked to play....likely both

Oh Blind Hate, your so zaney!

Blind Hate for Prime Minister!

Have to agree....Marlies a bunch of arrogant, lying, deceitful members. Other than that they are pretty decent.

that guy has a point. why not step up and voice your opinions at games? seems like your pretty silent at games there mr 'blind hate'