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Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

April 7 2012 at 1:53 PM
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If you have to prioritize which ones would they be.

Silver Stick
Marlies
Titan

will up there I guess.
Any others and in what order.

 
    
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

April 7 2012, 2:12 PM 

OHL Cup. Hands down

 
 
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April 7 2012, 2:32 PM 

If you make it there.

 
 
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April 7 2012, 7:56 PM 

what about london and peterborough

 
 
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April 7 2012, 8:05 PM 

hands down, the clancy

 
 
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April 7 2012, 9:09 PM 

Silver Stick is # 1

Marlies 2


OHL cup confirms what they scouted earlier

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

April 7 2012, 9:13 PM 

I thought the WEST HILL SHAMROCK one was a good one. Have seen lots of Scouts there.

 
 
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April 7 2012, 9:49 PM 

909 is bang on

 
 
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April 7 2012, 9:52 PM 

Titan?

 
 
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April 7 2012, 10:41 PM 

London don't bother. Nothing going on there ever.

 
 
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April 7 2012, 10:53 PM 

Green / Gold very good

 
 
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April 7 2012, 10:53 PM 

Titan
Take or leave to early in season to have great effect on scouts

 
 
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May 13 2012, 11:36 PM 

silverstick and marlies

 
 
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May 14 2012, 12:02 AM 

Scouts will be at the Titans to get a first look for the season before the
start...OHL folks will also be there to check players/parents off ice...
Seen that in the past.

 
 
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May 14 2012, 7:20 AM 

1. Marlies - most scouts
2. Silver Stick - best teams
3. Titans - first tourney
4. Peterborough
5. London

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 14 2012, 7:31 AM 

Brantford and Hamilton Reps also well attended....

 
 
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May 14 2012, 10:57 AM 

any A/AA tournament since that is where the diamonds in the ruff are

 
 
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May 14 2012, 11:32 AM 

Oh ya...all the scouts will be at your 'A' tourny's to see your 'now' 6'2" ankle bender 'Diamond in the rough'! hahahahahaha

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 14 2012, 11:34 AM 

yup they will, honest that is what someone on N54 said

 
 
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May 14 2012, 11:39 AM 

"any A/AA tournament since that is where the diamonds in the ruff are"

Scouts dont really attend AA tournaments. You'll see some on here posting that they do, but Ive had three kids go through this, and friends who scout, they have their hands full with scoutng AAA Minor Midget, scouting all of their past draft picks and Advanced scouting for the OHL

Some of the more populated tournamets will be (in no order)

OHL Cup
Toronto Holiday Classic
Whitby Silversticks
Toronto Titans Tournament

Others include (In no order)
Hamilton Tim Hortons Tournament
Peterborough Midget Tournament of Champions
Waterloo Gold Puck
Brantford Boston Pizza Cup
London Green and Gold


All nine of those touraments see a fairly good amount of attention in the OHL Scouting community.

 
 
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May 14 2012, 3:16 PM 

BlueLine in kitchener
Border City Cup Windsor
Nike Bauer Chicago
Warrior Michigan
Little Ceasars Michigan

 
 
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May 14 2012, 3:50 PM 

Kitchener Blueline is like a midget tournament? They dont even have AAA Minor Midget lol

 
 
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May 14 2012, 3:52 PM 

11:39 Got it. You go to Titans early bird, SS, Marlies at Christmas and perhaps one more (take your pick) and you are golden.

Key also is to play in the OHL Cup, can make or break some kids getting drafted.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 14 2012, 3:59 PM 

Boarder City only has 6-8 AAA teams there. Same weekend as Tim Hortons. You want see nearly as many scouts there vs. the Hamilton tourny.

 
 
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May 14 2012, 4:01 PM 

Agreed, been to both and the Reps tournament was attended by many more OHL team reps....

 
 
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scouts

May 15 2012, 7:00 PM 



Canlan # 1

 
 
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May 15 2012, 7:47 PM 

was at border city cup last year and there were alot of scouts there dont know what your talking about everyone gets scouted the good ones go to all of them.

 
 
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May 15 2012, 8:46 PM 

"was at border city cup last year and there were alot of scouts there dont know what your talking about everyone gets scouted the good ones go to all of them."

There are scouts there, no one debates that. However, Border City is on the same weekend at the Hamilton Tournament. It has 20 minor midget and 20 midget teams, including 3-4 first round picks every year. Border City doesn't draw nearly that amount of teams.

So given that they cant be at both places at once, scouts do not actually go to all of them, they go to the one with more teams and that is closer to where they live. Border City will have the Local scouts there, but thats all. I've been to both, its not even close to the amount that go to Hamilton.

Once again, Facts are your Friend.

 
 
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May 15 2012, 8:56 PM 

Okay facts guy, ever think that teams have more than one scout, so they can send people to different tournaments when they are held at the same time.

Common sense is common sense.

 
 
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May 15 2012, 9:04 PM 

border city cup was so bad last year we made it to the final. was garbage trust me. scouts only attended first day

 
 
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May 15 2012, 9:41 PM 

"Okay facts guy, ever think that teams have more than one scout, so they can send people to different tournaments when they are held at the same time.

Common sense is common sense."

Of course they do, thats why they will send their local scouts to Windsor, which I did say (did you ignore that or just not read it). I was at the border city cup in 2011, and there where maybe 20 scouts there. Last year, with my 96, we went to Hamilton, and I saw 60-70 scouts (3 to 4 per team) and 2-3 GM's. The local Windsor area scouts go to Border City, the OMHA, GTHL, ALLIANCE and Head guys all went to Hamilton. Ive been through this many times, Ive seen it first hand.

Facts are your friend, my friend.


 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 15 2012, 9:43 PM 

Facts guy, your a retard, please go away, the only thing you have gone through many times is your liquor bottles.

Facts are your friends, asshole.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 15 2012, 9:54 PM 

Border City Cup Windsor are you serious. Last year they had a Michigan House league team in the Midget Minor Division.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 15 2012, 10:11 PM 

"Facts guy, your a retard, please go away, the only thing you have gone through many times is your liquor bottles.

Facts are your friends, asshole."

Good to see that once you run out of logic and arguments, you run to personal assults. Ill consider this debate closed wink.gif Thanks

 
 
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May 15 2012, 10:21 PM 

just the facts m'am, just the facts!

 
 
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May 15 2012, 10:25 PM 

Tournaments a great but they will all be out to the games as well folks
Showcase weekends are very big

 
 
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May 15 2012, 11:39 PM 

kid's on shit team, eh?

 
 
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May 15 2012, 11:49 PM 

Not at all.
Just no need to go to every tournament out there when they will also be at the games.
It does come down to economics at some point in time.
But thanks for your input dick head.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 7:06 AM 

96 Rebels 15 kids drafted
96 Marlies 15 kids drafted
96 Kings 11 kids drafted
96 DMF 8 kids drafted

All these teams were in Titans Pre-Season, Silver Stick, Marlies Tournament and OHL Cup. Titans tourney had so many scouts there was no room for parents in the stands. These were also top 4 teams, if you're kid isn't on one of the top 4 97 teams he better be head and shoulders above every other kid on his team to get noticed. It's an eye opening year. If your kid isn't on the radar now they probably won't be. 96 parent.


 
 
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May 16 2012, 7:09 AM 

still 250 others

 
 
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May 16 2012, 7:16 AM 

If a scout hears of a good F D or G he will be there!


 
 
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May 16 2012, 7:34 AM 

7:09 Yes but the question was which are the best tournaments. Name me another team that had 15 kids drafted. Best tournaments have best competition. That's all. As for the other 250, if you're not top 50 it doesn't matter. OHL teams can only sign 4 97s.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:55 AM 

Scouts will go wherever the kid's paid agents/family advisors tell them to go

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:23 AM 

A good piece of advice for your kid is to step up his game when you play against a top end team and/or player.
The chances for scouts being at the game is pretty high and if you do something that stands out, that will be noticed. Scouts want to see compete level against top end kids. It's not all about points; scouts don't look at stats nor care. You have to be able to compete and do something special. There isn't much that separates the majority of kids and that's why come next april-may you will be saying 'how did that kid not get drafted and how did that kid get drafted'. You need to do something that a scout remembers then you will be put on a radar and looked at more often....former scout

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:26 AM 

....or you need to be a relative of an OHL staffer to get drafted.

This year, see Gilmour, Gill, Burgess, Hofford or have friends on an OHL team like Binnie.

Hofford and Binnie still blow me away!

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:27 AM 

Lol. Poster a bit above says just need to make sure we get in all the tourneys. Oh ya...just being there will get your kid drafted. It depends on how good your kid is moron. If he is good enough they will find him. Just like they find all the minor midget kids that are playing in Junior Leagues.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:29 AM 

WG and LS thats all u need to know

 
 
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May 16 2012, 11:04 AM 

Scouts will go to all tourneys. GM's and Head Coaches only go to Titans, Silver Stick, Marlies and OHL Cup. And guess who makes all decisions.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 11:05 AM 

The owners, see Burgess.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 11:07 AM 

sorry i forgot owners

 
 
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May 16 2012, 11:26 AM 

10:26, getting drafted is one thing, but making and sticking with the team is quite another.

people on these boards shredded Domi's kid, but they're all silent now. even though Tie is still a dick, the kid has proved himself. same goes for Rychel, the Foligno's and a handful of others.

O is not rife with nepotism like the T2 "daddy" league. all in all there's relatively very few owner's or coach's kids playing. please feel free to inform me of any getting a free ride or undeserved ice time.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 11:33 AM 

Have you watched any of the kids I mentioned above?

Burgess was predicted to go from rounds 7-10. No nepotism there?

Gilmour's kid was a late round pick, if that and he goes in the first ten rounds? Did you see his stats? Every time you watched the Flyers previously or the JRC he was invisible, i-n-v-i-s-i-b-l-e!

Gill's kid is the only one of those mentioned besides Burgess to be rated as a draftable player.

Hofford and Binnie? Come on, please. Don't try and tell me these kids have a shot, honestly. Binnie barely saw the ice with Markham last year his old man was fuming every game. Tough when you're not around anymore as HC to ensure ice time.

Hofford? Did he even play on Guelph's back line? It was Sanvido, Spaxman and Percy, the rest barely sw the ice.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 11:42 AM 

11:33, sit back and breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. repeat until your machine head is calm.

now, I said "making and sticking with the team". please show me the nepotism?

I am fully aware that Burgess and 2 of the others were over-drafted. but that's it.

think of it this way: there might be a few more 96 FA's signing with teams in due time.

and don't forget to keep breathing.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 1:58 PM 

I'm fine and I understand your point completely, but I will submit to you that the integrity of the draft suffers when this obvious nepotism is factored in.

For all the work the scouts and everyone else associated with a team does to evaluate and then select the best kids, a shadow is cast over it.

I'm normally very anti-conspiracy, but now after witnessing the shenanigans first hand the comment the politics of hockey rings particularly clear....

 
 
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May 16 2012, 2:27 PM 

1:58, points well taken. the "favour" shenanigans do indeed cast a shameful shadow over the draft.

at least this year the draft tampering, ie true corruption, was kept to a bare minimum with only 1 notable case by the Ottawa 67's.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 2:29 PM 

What's the word, is Abou-Assaly going to sign there, or was it all for naught?

Whispers were also out there that Windsor had Ho-Sang tank the second half of the year to ensure he got picked by them. I found that one hard to believe....

 
 
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May 16 2012, 2:37 PM 

AAA will sign with the 67's.

and yeah, don't believe the JHS nonsense. this was just circumstance like Hargrave falling 3 or 4 spots lower than he should.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 2:44 PM 

thnx

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:03 PM 

I don't see the issue if parent coaches, managers, owners select their kids late in the draft. How many late round kids make an OHL team, not many. Is it any different then mom or dad hiring their own kid to work in the family business. The only ones complaining are the parents of fringe players who were not drafted, but by not being drafted mom/dad have been deprived of saying, "my Johnny was drafted into the O" get over it people.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:09 PM 

If the draft is supposed to reflect the top 300 or so players eligible to be chosen, don't you think this is a huge misrepresentation? The OHL conducts numerous in-season meetings explaining the process to the kids, detailing the in's and out's and with this nepotism basically flips them the bird.

Not to mention, what are you telling you scouting staff who have worked so very hard all year travelling all over the province to identify the best players for your club and you pick a kid out of the blue because his old man is buddies with the GM?

P.S. Some of the kids mentioned were NOT chosen with a late pick. Sudbury for example took the owner's son in the 3rd round. Unless the kid turns out to be a stud, it's a lot of pressure to put on the kid and you are also depriving a franchise of a good player in the 3rd round.

Gilmour was also not taken late, 8th round to be exact.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:13 PM 

Here is the solution cry baby parent, get many millions and buy a team, then put your loser kid on the team. You think this does not happen in any other sport, think NCAA teams don't have kids on the teams because they are connected, think baseball teams don't draft someone's kid because they are connected. Many years ago the LA Dodgers drafted Mike Piazza, his old man was a good friend of Tommy Lasorda, Piazza was not even expected to be drafted at all and everyone laughed, how did that work out.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:20 PM 

Of course I know it happens all the time, in all sports.

Doesn't make it right.

What's your point, or is there one?

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:25 PM 

Point is quit whining, if you kid is really that good, he can still catch on with a team. Have a good Midget AAA season, talk to teams, scouts and see what happens.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:27 PM 

Fuck them.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 3:31 PM 

okay, that too happy.gif

 
 
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May 16 2012, 4:20 PM 

3:27 is my friend sparky, lmao!


easy now boys. to use a trite adage: it is what it is. no use arguing this.

"favours" even happen in the NHL draft too. I can provide examples.

once again I'm not saying it's right, just that you have to acknowledge it (not necessarily accept it; there's a difference) and get beyond it.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 4:24 PM 

What are your examples pinhead? Btw, how's the old lady?

 
 
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May 16 2012, 4:32 PM 

"Facts are your Friend" asshole is at it again.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 4:35 PM 

Nope.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 4:36 PM 

lmao!!! for you I have nothing, you granny banging sex fiend!

try to take it easy on the boys here. they don't know you well enough, lol!

 
 
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May 16 2012, 5:24 PM 

""Facts are your Friend" asshole is at it again."

Actually no, I did not post that.

He is right thou, I know of a goaltender who was a third string goalie in the NCAA and was drafted after playing 1 period all year. Was a backup in the OJHL

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=121789

Message is correct thou, control what you can control.

As far as favours go, generally there are 10-15 a year. If thats enough for you to get worked up about, then so be it, but it seems pretty small to me.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 7:02 PM 

5:24, good post and excellent example.

his dad Gregg owned the Kingston Vees up until this time last year. the team was successful under his ownership and won a T2 title, however the "buying and paying players" rumours were rampant and most likely true. the kid was a favour draft pick for sure.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 8:39 PM 

5:24 Don't you people get it, it is not the number it is the principal. Even one is too many if the process can be called into question. Fuck are you people thick.

Based on what I've seen and heard this year I have no idea how all you people who spend so much time around hockey can stand it. Brutal, no ethics whatsoever.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 8:56 PM 

Hey dick head, look at it this way, if your kid was really good enough he would be drafted. Because your kid sucks and was not, your embarrassed because you probably told all the boys at the plant that your boy was going to be drafted. Now, you feel shame.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 8:58 PM 

This answer seems quite clear. It is a dirty process and with even one case of nepotism there is no longer any integrity. Nevertheless, it occurs in all apsects of life so get over it and move on. As mentioned, all you can control is your own effort.
As far as Kingston kid is concerned, is he really that dense that he doesn't know how he was taken by Islanders or does he just not care that nothing was earned but everything was given and a joke?

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:05 PM 

Can't wait for this whiny parent to go ape shit when his little star is passed over in a job, or does not get accepted at a university, although if the kid has the brains of the poster, university is not an issue, no chance.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:08 PM 

So what were the good tournaments again?

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:19 PM 

8:39 - There are very few, if any, selection processes anywhere that are 100% unbiased. I can't think of any offhand, maybe you can cite some so we can understand your frame of reference. How you ever got this far into the hockey world and could think for a second that the ohl draft was completely unbiased is truly incredible. And would you have us believe that if you had a friend or relative somewhere that could influence your kid getting drafted, or a job somewhere, ahead of others that might deserve it a little more, that you would refuse that? If so, you're the only one in the world. And I'm sure your kid would thank you for denying him an opportunity to show somebody what he's got so that you can sleep at night, comfortable with your integrity and ethics fully intact.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:32 PM 

You're a tool.

And to 9:05 yes I have a unversity degree and a professional designation and made my first million by the age of 35. Can you say the same?

I've never had anything handed to me ever and my son will work for everything he has and be proud of himself. Can the ones mentioned previously say the same?

Yeah, life is unfair and full of obstacles I get it. Enjoy.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 16 2012, 9:34 PM 

Well buddy I can make the same claim, only I made mine at age 32, Investment Banking is great.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:57 PM 

9:05 - I have no doubt that your kid is one of the many thousands of perfectly average players who never stood a chance of playing beyond minor hockey, but had to endure an asshole father like you who pushed his own dreams onto his kid. From what you have stated here, it's glaringly obvious that you never played any level of any sport yourself, most likely got beat up a lot, and you clearly don't "get it." And you're an ignorant, self-righteous fuck.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 9:58 PM 

LOL I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on both of you. If you had millions you'd have better things to do than post on N54. Myself, I have to work overtime shifts when the minor hockey bill comes in.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 16 2012, 10:02 PM 

yep, he's a dick alright.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:05 PM 

Hell, I have the nanny posting for me, what are you guys going to do to top that

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:08 PM 

I'm posting while the nanny's giving me head.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:09 PM 

Great, is she a spinner like mine?

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:14 PM 

I dunno what a spinner is, mine's 19 and smoking hot.

 
 
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May 16 2012, 10:15 PM 

Spinner is nice and hot, tiny, you sit her on your lap and just spin her around on the tool.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 16 2012, 10:16 PM 

Mine is 26, can spin pretty fast.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 7:26 AM 

9:57pm Wrong again dickwad, played varsity sports in university. What other dreams can you make up when you have no answers.....LOL

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 8:20 AM 

you're still a dumb fuck, and your kid still sucks

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 8:26 AM 

Funny, I'm the dumb fuck who is guessing wrongly on the life details of an anonymous poster on N54. Uh yeah sure.

Carry on fucktard.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 9:52 AM 

hey sparky, no one really gives a shit. now just cool your jets awhile you shit disturbing fuck.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 9:59 AM 

You cared enough to respond. Too much....LOL

Signed,

F U

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 10:03 AM 

FU 2 sparky.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 11:34 AM 

Getting back to the original discussion, any scout who places too much emphasis on the OHL cup is really not that good. Think about it, so few players actually play in the tournament compared to the number of players out there.
Then again, maybe that is one of the things wrong with the whole scouting/drafting system.
Where was Claude Giroux drafted? He wasn't. The entire OHL passed on him. Twice.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 11:49 AM 

"Where was Claude Giroux drafted? He wasn't. The entire OHL passed on him. Twice."

First year he was sick with mono all year, missed all but 4 games.

After that, he played Jr A as a 16 year old. There was OHL interest, but he let every team know he had an agreement with a QMJHL team. If an OHL team drafted him, he would have went NCAA.

Facts are your friend wink.gif

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 11:54 AM 

"Think about it, so few players actually play in the tournament compared to the number of players out there.
Then again, maybe that is one of the things wrong with the whole scouting/drafting system. "

No scout puts all emphasis on one week. Its foolhardy to think they do. I have had multiple boys go through the proccess. Lucky enough to pick the brian of scouts in the rinks. Its a long, long process, simple as that. Players who play poorly in the OHL Cup sill get drafted becaose of what they did all year. Players have had bad OHL Cups and are still drafted first overall or in the 15th round.

The issue with scouting for the OHL Draft, is that your looking at 14/15 year old kids. Who knows what they will be in 2-3 years. Simple as that. Its not science.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 12:07 PM 

it is crystal ball scouting, the better scouts have a better projection record. The first round are the relatively easy ones, it is the middle pack kids who maybe given time and development can be better then the first group or crap out and never adjust to the next level.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 17 2012, 12:34 PM 

In the '96 A/AA Alliance finals between Kitchener and the Bandits there were 3 scouts at each game in Kitchener, no A/AA kids were drafted, but nonetheless scouts were there and i know at least 2 goalies in the same league who had scouts out to watch a few games.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 9:00 AM 

Trust me Einstein no kid from A or AA are on the radar one in a million now go buy a lottery ticket

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 9:55 AM 

Joel Vienneau current sudbury wolves goalie, CHA goalie of the month, and 7th round draft pick of guelph ....Hearst Elans AA every year hearst puts a couple of great players in the ohl or college ranks.

Bradley Bell this years 3 rnd pick of st mikes Copper Cliff AA I believe 4-5 picks from this team.

and im sure if i look I can find more....

Ottawa took Walden goalie Battachio and he was undrafted, (may have spelt wrong) all the way to the memorial cup.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 10:04 AM 

"Bradley Bell this years 3 rnd pick of st mikes Copper Cliff AA I believe 4-5 picks from this team. "

Really? Really?

Copper Cliff is a AAA team. They only played AA because there is no AAA in that area. Same with Vienneau.

Copper Cliff wanted a team of players who would travel from tournament to torunament showcasing their kids. In stead of playing fourth line in the GNML they put a travel team together and was based out of a AA program, but only because thats the only level of play that was avaluable to them. They played at the Marlboros tourny, Titans Tournament, and other AAA events, and did well (Almost beat the 96 Marlies once)

You cant use teams from Sudbury and the general Northern area because they dont have Minor Midget AAA.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 10:59 AM 

didn't check if they got drafted but these kids were AA or A and all were available for ohl priority draft.

Choquette, maxime e ontario Cobras AA
Brubaker, Adam Ayr

im not saying it never happens, and it is a long shot but it can and does

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 11:08 AM 

Non of them got drafted.

The last true AA kid to be drafted was out of the GTHL in 2010. He didnt play a game in the OHL or get an NCAA commit. It happens once in a blue mood, and never really amounts to anything.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 11:18 AM 

Something to think about...

Your kid has less than 1 in 200,000 chance of making a real career in the NHL out of this recreational sport. Even if your kid is a AAA superstar, he will in all likelihood end up in the junior pro leagues at best. There he will toil for $40k per year from 19 - 27, never playing a game in the NHL, only to be let go as he approaches his thirties with no education and no chance at a real job.

It is the quintessential dead end career path!

So all you parents on N54 busy plotting out juniors next career move, take a step back and ask yourself where are you going with all this? who you are doing this for and why?

Reality check time folks, enjoy the game but get an education.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 11:22 AM 

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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 7:29 PM 

from now on any kid that tells me he/she wants to be a lawyer or doctor I am going to crush their dreams with statistics! Even if they are A students (which AAA hockey players are the sports equivalent).

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 7:31 PM 

7:29
Your an idiot

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 7:35 PM 

yawn 7:31 - going line those kids right up and dash their dreams with statistics. Hey kid do you know the chances of you getting good enough marks to even be accepted into medical school neither alone graduating with your PHD. Give it up kid, don't try, go for something easier. Dreaming is dangerous, even more dangerous is working towards goals.

7:31 you are the idiot, let the kids dream. At least they are working towards something.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 7:59 PM 

better chance of kids becoming doctors or lawyers than hockey players, education is the key, so again your an idiot.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 8:26 PM 

Before you call someone else an idiot you should check your grammar.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 8:29 PM 

IDIOT, MORON, JACKASS, FOOL, RETARD.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 9:30 PM 

evidently you lack the intelligence to see the message idiot. You are so sanctimoniously preaching your statistical crap about hockey that you didn't see the point. You post that crap on every thread you can. Why, this is a hockey thread where the boys have dreams of hockey. BTW, last I checked on my kids team most of them were honour roll students with athletic awards. My son being one of them who has always been on the honour roll. Myself and my family are Engineers and Doctors. We know what the odds are and hard work to get there. STOP KILLING DREAMS. At least they are working hard for something. WTF are you doing asshole.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 10:50 PM 

[linked image]

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 19 2012, 10:51 PM 

lol ok no sense trying to argue. I pity you.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:27 AM 

10:51, it's clear you're smarter and better than any of us here.

now go away and preach to somebody else you holier-than-thou ass clown.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:36 AM 

How about fucktard and dipshit?

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 11:38 AM 

1056 and 931 typical N54

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 11:42 AM 

it is evident that 9:27 is someone who has set low goals for himself and then failed to achieve them. Keep trying to bring everyone else down so you feel better about yourself.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 12:32 PM 

A

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 7:45 PM 

hey idiots ...scouts go to all tournaments, whether be local or not. the other tournaments usually have more because they are closer to most scouts, not because they are better tournaments. the biggies for everyone are Titans early bird, Silver Stick mid season Marlies xmas break obviously everyone goes there before all the playoffs start and then Obviously the OHL cup. Everything else is choice by teams locations permissions from associations schedules. They all get watched and no One gets missed.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 7:50 PM 

Was at Border City Cup last year, great facility, competitive tournament all games on time, close to hotels and down town Windsor across from Detroit, Michigan. Lots to do had fun going back with another team this year. Boston Pizza was good as well. For the poster who commented on the house league team, I do not remember any house league team there. Heck even the Marlies had some questionable teams to make up the 64 team pool.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 8:00 PM 

As a team you cannot do them all.
You must do a couple local ones or those close to home to help keep costs down for players and their parents.
Money does play a large factor for many teams. Times are tough for many.
Everyone wants in the Titan, Marlies, Silver Stick and OHL Cup ut not going to happen and scouts know that as well.
They do not leave many stones unturned and the local OHL and NCAA and other teams teams will have people,at the local tournaments in their area.
They are also trying to keep costs down.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:03 PM 

[linked image]

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:41 PM 

Ok so you are flogging a dead horse.
What the fuck does that have to do with this thread?

Ok you just learned to add a photo?
Good for you now get lost.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:42 PM 

I think he is saying if your kid is good enough the scouts will see him.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:47 PM 

What with that photo?
He must have been very misunderstood in school.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 20 2012, 9:49 PM 

[linked image]

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 12:38 AM 

941 - the thread is dead, everyone's rehashing the same shit, just assholes like you keep it alive cuz your kid's on a shit team that won't get into the top tourneys and nobody will see him, not that they'd want him anyway, so go fuck yourself you jackass.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 9:37 AM 

yea ok

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 12:13 PM 

we had a three on three tourney on my backyard rink and the scouts showed up.
Facts are your Friend.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 2:32 PM 

Border City Cup
Windsor Ont

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 3:31 PM 

The people who run Border City even admit they are a second tier tourney for weaker teams you meatball

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 3:53 PM 

So what?

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 4:20 PM 

so, they're not the most scouted tournaments in MM AAA, which was the original question.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 4:39 PM 

See you read some posts before you post you idiot.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 5:11 PM 

nothing wrong with any tournament you go to, they will all be watched, by a few, by many as long as they are being watched and the teams are competitive what the fuck do you care

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 7:18 PM 

Nice english jerk off

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 21 2012, 7:20 PM 

Just wrote it so you might understand it.
You simpleton

 
 
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May 21 2012, 8:16 PM 

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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 22 2012, 7:38 AM 

I used to scout for Kingston (gta) and I went to most of the tournaments mentioned

I would often really pay attention in the warmups. You can tell a great deal about the character of kids when watching how they warm up

Good luck everyone and stay away from the scouts at the arenas. You can really piss us off if you even mention your kids name or number

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 22 2012, 8:13 AM 

Border City Cup - Windsor
96 SCP had 6 players noticed then drafted
Windsor had 0
Tournament won by CC Tricycle

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 6:59 AM 

Border City Cup what a joke of a tournament. The guy that runs the tournament is a litle PR. Do not waste your time and money. Go to Hamilton that weekend and your team will get scouted!!!! Your team will have a better chance of being scouted at the movie`s than at that shit tourny in Windsor.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 9:50 AM 

All tournaments have some scout attention, the question is which ones provide the best bang for the buck. So Hamilton has better potential then Windsor.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 10:39 AM 

8:13 and 6:59 still sore that you couldn't advance the year before get over shit head.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 11:19 AM 

"All tournaments have some scout attention, the question is which ones provide the best bang for the buck. So Hamilton has better potential then Windsor."

Exactly. Ive been to both with my kids. Windsor had maybe 10, where as Hamilton had 50/60 plus 2 or 3 GMs. Its not really close.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 11:26 AM 

Does it REALLY matter? These are both secondary tournaments anyway.

The biggies are the Titans earlybird, the Silver Stick, Marlies Christmas tournament and OHL Cup.

The balance like Brantford, Windsor, Reps, Peterborough, etc. are nice but definitely secondary.

Go to the biggies if you qualify for Silver Stick and OHL Cup, but definitely other two and you are good.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 11:37 AM 

You do what to go to the big two, but those big two have 50-60 teams in it.

Its good to also go to a Hamilton/Brantford to give more exposure to scouts in a smaller setting of 15-20 teams.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 7:15 PM 

The most scout attended Minor Midget AAA tournaments are those in which the Marlies play in. Hate the Marlies but this is fact. Been there and have seen it. It is quite impressive how many scouts will follow that team year in year out.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 7:22 PM 

Funnier still how few marlies end up making pro.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 7:25 PM 

Agree but remember it is the OHL drafting and not the NHL draft. Being better at 15-16 does not guarantee you a million dollar contract when you are 20. The question was what tournaments draw scouts and the answer on the Marlies is right on.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 23 2012, 8:46 PM 

true dat

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 8:14 AM 

which tournament is known for "soap on a rope"

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 8:38 AM 

11:19

we were at windsor last year and there were alot more than just ten. did you actually count them. you obvioulsy were one of the parents who went around following them all pimping your kid. when you went to hamilton your mouth was probably really tired having blown 50 or 60

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 8:57 AM 

"we were at windsor last year and there were alot more than just ten. did you actually count them. you obvioulsy were one of the parents who went around following them all pimping your kid. when you went to hamilton your mouth was probably really tired having blown 50 or 60"

Very polite of you to retort with insults wink.gif.

How could I count the scouts at Windsor last year and be in Hamilton at the same time, I must be magic wink.gif

Feel free to hurt insults, but if you think that Windsor is the key to getting your kid drafted, good luck to you. All I know is that Ive been to both with two of my kids, and its not even close to the amont of scouts who go to one vs. the other. I know alot of local guys will defend thier local tournament, which is fine, but there are the teams that where there last year....

Windsor Jr Spitfires
Chatham
Clarington Toros
Niagara North Stars
Buffalo Regals
North Central Preds
Team Ohio
Markham Majors

Thats all I have to say....

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 9:04 AM 

I don't disagree with you, but also did not read where previous poster insisted the Windsor tournament was key to his kid getting drafted.

Reading comprehension....

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 11:58 AM 

You forgot to mention the elite Michigan House League team CC Bicycle.
This years host team has a great record.Ranked #43 in Ontario Windsor Jr Spitfires 97 AAA 9-28-6 15.15 -1.16 16.31 . Should be another great tournament.Why would any teams scouts Windsor,Chatham or Sarnia.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 12:00 PM 

Big Nickel Sudbury.....

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 12:23 PM 

May 24 2012, 11:58 AM

Sun County was in it last year as well.
It is about supporting your local area and also playing at a great arena close to home as well.
There will be scout there, there always is and there are plenty to around to more than one tournament at a time.


 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 12:27 PM 

May 24 2012, 11:58 AM

Ok hot shot where your kid from?
Thye will scout those teams and others going there because there are good players on those teams.
They do not draft teams they draft players.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 1:25 PM 

'Sun County was in it last year as well.
It is about supporting your local area and also playing at a great arena close to home as well.
There will be scout there, there always is and there are plenty to around to more than one tournament at a time. '

Nothing wrong with you 'defending/supporting' your local area. However if I had one tournament to go to that weekend, it would not be Windsor, sorry, thats just how it is. We went to Windsor a few years ago and was disappointed with the level of play and competition, as well as the number of scouts in attendance when comparing it to the Hamilton tournament. I personally could care less about 'supporting' my local area, i do that with volunteer work and donations. With hockey, its about the highest level of competition, as well as the most exposure.

Thats not a negative on Windsor itself, just that the tournament does not have a high amount of teams playing in it, and does not have a nearly as many scouts as Hamilton. Its just how it is.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 1:35 PM 

windsor has the only pro coach in the world who works on a motor line... lmao

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 24 2012, 1:38 PM 

there was only one scout there.
that was my dog who has had the name for 4 years now

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 25 2012, 12:02 AM 

1:35 ....and your point is?

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 27 2012, 7:51 AM 

1:25 CORRECTION Sun County MM did not play in the Windsor Border City Cup last year. The coaching staff and parents did not support their local tournament.They ended up at the Hamilton Tournament for the reason`s you stated.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 29 2012, 10:03 AM 

OHL CUP
MARLIES
SILVER STICK
STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM WINDSOR AS YOU CAN. SCOUTS THINK OF WINDSOR AAA HOCKEY AS A JOKE.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 29 2012, 10:04 AM 

TANK YOU

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 29 2012, 10:11 AM 

If you go to the big ones and then also to Windsor it will make zero impact one way or the other. Kids will be viewed at least 20-25 times in the season, through regualr season and tournament anyways.

Yeah, Windsor is one of the weaker tournaments for attendance, but again no biggie if you are also at the Titans, Marlies Christmas, SS and/or OHL Cup.....

The calibre of Windsor hockwey and the attandance at the Windsor border Cup have nothing to do with each other. Clearly someone with an axe to grind. Not sure how this particular thread became "bash Windsor hockey" specific....

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 29 2012, 1:44 PM 

Windsor got scouted a couple of years ago cause of Ekbald, beyond that what has come out of those tourneys?

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 29 2012, 1:54 PM 

Ekblad played for Sun County.

If you play AAA minor midget in Ontario all teams get viewed 20-25 times throughout league and tournament play....Ekblad or no Ekblad.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 30 2012, 8:23 AM 

may 24 1:35

Only anonymously could you attack an individual or individuals and what they do for a living. You obviously have a beef with the person or persons who run the tournament. If you don't like it then don't go. Whether its scouted or not, teams enjoy it and keep coming back year after year. Not all teams are as elite as your team and choose to go to more competitive tournaments that suit their talent level. In the end they all get scouted whether you like it or not. Some more, some less, to bring up the fact that he works on a motor line is low and cruel and as stated above, you can only remain anonymous because you are coward and can only bash behind your computer screen. Once and for all why don't you jot your name down so we all know who the sick fuck is who keeps coming on here and bashing the same person. As an association our teams have been going for years and will continue to go because its convenient, well run and fair. Kids get treated good and games are competitive and not blow outs. Other associations have chosen as well so obviously people and teams are still interested.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 30 2012, 9:50 AM 

8:23 excellent post, I agree. Of course the aim is for every kid to be drafted out of their MM year. But that is unrealistic; Coaches need to balance expectations with success. Sometimes you enter those tournaments that are more inline with the team’s talent level/capabilities to ensure that they still develop. Blowout games develop neither the winning team nor the losing team. Winning a tournament or placing well regardless of how it is viewed in the tournament hierarchy creates good memories. "We lost again" does not.

and yes, in your MM year all tournaments have a scout presence. Obviously higher level tournaments have more but if they want to see the kid they will go.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

May 31 2012, 3:42 PM 

The most scouted tournaments are the ones that cater to the scouts the best. if parking is easy, no entrance fee, nice quiet place to watch the games, booklets made up for them, even some food.

It's tiring to go to the Marlies Tournament where they do nothing for us. Plus the marlies have been over drafted in the past few years. We now recognize only 1% of them actually end up playing in the OHL. you'll see us slowly but surely not attending that one as much and going to others instead.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 1 2012, 8:05 AM 

WHO CARES! It doesn't matter what tournament your kid plays in. If he is worthy, he will be noticed. Get over it.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 1 2012, 12:30 PM 

3:42 - you are so full of shit your post should be written in brown.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 2 2012, 7:39 PM 

lol

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 2 2012, 7:59 PM 

96 Parent here. Scouts are at the Ronald McDonald this weekend. Saw several of them in attendance when there with my son's friend. Know them because my son was drafted by one of them 3rd round

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 3 2012, 7:38 PM 

liar liar pants on fire

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 3 2012, 8:44 PM 

LOL

ronald Macdonald!!


 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 4 2012, 12:11 PM 

So how can you tell who the scouts are?

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 4 2012, 1:34 PM 

RA from Redwings 97 was one of the scouts.

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 7 2012, 8:12 AM 

Oshawa!!!

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 12 2012, 9:58 AM 

The most predominant scout is the smaller build person with grey hair, moustache, beaty eyes behind some outdated glasses. He walks weird too! Wears an OHL jacket and eats corndogs with his overweight wife.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 12 2012, 9:59 AM 

Thanks for describing yourself, fucktard.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 20 2012, 6:48 PM 

May 16 2012, 2:29 PM, it's now official regarding AAA signing with the 67's:

http://www.ottawa67s.com/article/abou-assaly-signs-with-67-s

this is a good education story for the anti-OHL/pro-NCAA crowd too as AAA will continue his private school education on the 67's dime.

it was the same for the Majors when they were at St. Mike's, then a handful that continued there when the team moved to Missy. same applies to other teams with private schools nearby, ie the O team picks up the full tab.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 20 2012, 7:57 PM 

Richard Bell AA in Oakville

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 8:49 AM 

6:48pm The story doesn't say the 67's will pay for his private high school. Typical Gold package is 4 years at a POST-secondary institution.

The only reason he can continue where he is is because daddy has money and he remained at home.

Nice try though.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 9:18 AM 

wrong. I had info on his situation long before this. he took this long to sign because the 67's took this long to arrange a secure funding for his final 2 years.

remember "gold" education packages are registered thru the league and there is a limit. any team is able to go above and beyond that just as the Majors did at St. Mike's with players who did NOT receive these packages, ie players drafted beyond the 1st or 2nd round. there are no O rules broken here.

sorry to disappoint you.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 9:33 AM 

IF TRUE, this is most definitely the exception and NOT the rule.

I still don't believe this compensates for a chance at an Ivy League degree. But, him and his families choice....good luck to him.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 9:37 AM 

9:18 Btw, the flip side is in Barrie with CJG. I understand his camp were looking for the Gold package despite being a 3rd rounder and the Colts have balked.

Given he was drafted into the USHL, that is now a serious option.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 10:54 AM 

9:33, first, yes it's a family's personal decision whether to play in the O or try for a full NCAA schollie, assuming of course that the player is a top prospect and has this choice. the point here is that regardless of your opinion each route is fine, there are pro's and con's with each, and nothing is guarenteed with either route.

secondly, I don't know why you're suggesting that this compensates for an Ivy league education? this is just a private high school we're discussing and it will be paid for, period. upon the completion of his O career he can use his education package at any Ivy college he likes. he will no longer be eligible to play varsity hockey, however he can still apply for an academic scholarship and play local club (non-ACHA) hockey while at the school.

lastly, a debate about Ivy schools being the only diserable education available is moot; it is definitely prestigious. however there are many excellent CIS schools too if playing varsity hockey post junior is a requirement.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:00 AM 

You say tomato, I say tomaato.....enjoy.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:03 AM 

9:37, it could be that the Colts have tapped out their 7 gold packages. they can negotiate a non-league deal. this happens all the time. Dustin Ekelman was a 4th rnd draft and not even drafted by the Majors, ie acquired by trade in his second year. he attended St. Mike's on the team's dime while the team was in Mississauga. there were a couple others in the same boat too (Pelech & Cramrossa) after the team moved to Missy. up until recently, Saginaw offered the same deal using a nearby private high school too as an incentive. these are facts, sir.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:05 AM 

btw, Ekelman is at Acadia and a few months ago I was informed that he is considering medical school. yep, doctor or doktor.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:14 AM 

You must be a shill for the league?

Do me a favour and also tell me about all the kids that don't finish high school while playing in the OHL. Perhaps then we can get to a more even-sided discussion.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:24 AM 

lol! and you're a shill for just what exactly??

nope, just someone who has been thru both systems & knows much more than you, and also doesn't need to A) attack other people during a discussion and B) make flippant remarks or use nonsensical arguments to prove a point.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:26 AM 

You're clearly on the wrong site then. LOL

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:29 AM 

btw 11:14, speaking of the the 67's, they have an even better example of O vs NCAA debate with their 1st round draft.

educate yourself on his older brothers and their experience with the NCAA route. better yet speak to the Salituro's and ask how the middle boy had his schollie pulled.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:32 AM 

11:26, lol! you're right!! have a nephew going thru now tho. must admit it's very entertaining here. miss reading the nutbars on the OR thread, lmao!!


 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 11:43 AM 

11:29am That's fine, but blowing all this sunshine up everyone's ass about the OHL without commenting on the kids that wash out either academically or hockey-wise is also disenguine.

You clearly know alot of the behind-the-scenes machinations on both sides of the border, but I've heard plenty of firs-hand stories of kids who were good students going into the league that ended up failing out and not getting their high school diplomas, mainly due to the time needed to play hockey, the influences or lack of influences from other players, unscrupulous owners/management or simply poor billets.

Be objective, otherwise I can go directly to the OHL website to only hear about the "success" stories.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 21 2012, 12:13 PM 

11:43, i think you're being somewhat harsh not to mention a tad terse, as I was being objective when stated the following a bunch of posts ago:

"yes it's a family's personal decision whether to play in the O or try for a full NCAA schollie, assuming of course that the player is a top prospect and has this choice. the point here is that regardless of your opinion each route is fine, there are pro's and con's with each, and nothing is guarenteed with either route."

you make valid points tho. horror stories do happen in both routes. the polarized view that the O is not congruent with education is narrow minded and an inexperienced one. at the end of the day, the key is for the kid to avail himself of a wonderful opportunity regardless of whether it's in the O or NCAA. both are excellent choices. although buyers beware of their specific situations.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 27 2012, 4:29 PM 


 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 27 2012, 4:39 PM 


 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 12:37 AM 

Bauer Invitational in Chicago

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 2:24 PM 

Agreed. Most the most scouts overall are at the Chicago Tourney. Second OHL Cup. Toronto Marlies is the biggest midseason tourney.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 2:25 PM 

You are full of it.
Chicago?
Nope

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 2:28 PM 

Whatever tournament my kid is at!!

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 2:29 PM 

Some scouts no doubt go to Chicago, mostly OHL American based bird dogs.

The big Ontario tournaments for the OHL are:

- Titans in September (major)
- Brantford, Ham Reps and Windsor (minor)
- Silver Sticks (major)
- Marlies Christmas (major)
- Peterborough (minor)
- OHL Cup (MAJOR)

May have missed one or two but those are the biggies.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:13 PM 

Bulldog?


 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:20 PM 

Not in midget....dud.

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:40 PM 

London (minor)

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:52 PM 

Hamilton (minor)
Windsor (minor)

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:54 PM 

I already said that.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:57 PM 

Ooopsie!

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 3:57 PM 

You may have noticed, some people on N54 don't bother to read the posts, even those just one or two up.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:00 PM 

Not sitting at home with all the time in the world. Maybe if it was broken out like the rest of them. Let's call it a draw, OK tourney nazi?

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:03 PM 

All you had to do was hit "Page Up" dumbass.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:15 PM 

You still don't get it. Congrats on being guilty of what you're accusing other people of doing AND being an ASSHOLE!

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:16 PM 

- Brantford, Ham Reps and Windsor (minor)


Do you understand my post now, FUCKTARD?!

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:20 PM 

Type it again shiteater.....go for a half dozen now! LOL

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:24 PM 

Shiteater????

That explains everything!

I'm arguing with the Jokeville King of the Fucktards!!!!

Hey, did you piss your pants today?

Better go change them cause you really stink there urine boy.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:26 PM 

I guess you don't think none of the geniuses who regularly partake in the drivel on this site can't adopt that expletive?

You think only one guy is running around typing fucktard?!?

Man are you stupid.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:53 PM 

At least I have a job you over-sensitive unemployed fucktard.

Oh, and I had sex with your wife! Her words "finally a real man!!"

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:54 PM 

I'm employed and gay......glad you enjoyed that hairy man-hole! LOL

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 28 2012, 4:59 PM 

Too bad you have to work now to pay for her ultra expensive change operation. It was a very good one that since her labia was looked convincing and felt like the real thing.

So you're getting so over that stupid list was due to your effimance. No need to explain furhter.....sorry I hurt your feelings Nancy.

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

June 29 2012, 12:02 PM 

You are both acting like immature kids, enough already

 
 
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Re: Which Are The Most Scouted Tounaments Minor Midget AAA Level

July 1 2012, 9:25 AM 

One timer .... A tournament in Oshawa At a place they call Legends arena had quite a few scouts the one time. I think they were there to check out a few kids that just all happen to be there at the same time.

 
 
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