With so few players at tryouts, the association will have to fold the team for MM.
If Buffalo enters the league perhaps the one or two legitimate aaa players from Niagara can find a place on the BR.

team Has signed 10 PLAYERS and has deferred tryouts till the fall in hopes of recruiting some players or will take the last cuts of other teams looking for a place to play AAA.

Time to shut this Association down.

good job guys - took a team when it was younger had promise and drove it into the ground.

op - who would those remaining players be that could make regals?

all others have their F1's

the 10 could have a case to request F1's as well

what a gong show in NF

time to end the dream---move on

they already gave 5 their f1s - yeah - wouldnt wait for a phone call from regals, sta or anywhere else

not sure if they could go to the Regals. not allowed to go to USA hockey by current rules

It would be a good solution, not saying any could make the team but it would be a good option.

Just proof of how this organization sucks the life out of kids and drives the teams into the grounds. No doubt 97's will have a team minor hockey needs the cheques--time to call up last year's soccer team again

Great job showcasing for MM !

Need to be active, fold the team now and give the boys time to find other options.

for those still there - only option is single a

Get out while you can no talent inexperienced losing coach and no hope but a season of beatings glad we were able to get out

Do as planned fold the entire region down from three to two teams and maybe you will have more than STA as competitive.

should have been at the rink last night - boys looked good against an improved Burlington squad. Coaching and hard work plus added new recruits from other centres will make this team competetive

What quality AAA player from another centre is thinking "I hope my coach gives me my F1 so I can get to the Rivermen!".

Oops, I shouldn't have said "Rivermen" because it just dawned on me that I don't know what the name will be changed to this year.

Improved Burlington? Two terrible teams comparing their improvement against one another. ru kidding me? FOLD both of you.

NF will get better because all the imports from sta will lead to quality cuts - rivermen will be a good choice as the imports all played together last year. That plus the a core of 6-7 good aa players will boost the team past last years standings

sorry =meant good core already of aaa players

No, they play AAA, but you were right that they are really AA players.

943 - still whacked from last night or got up smoking this morning?

Um, its pretty simple.

I remember two months ago posting that the two 96 Niagara teams had 5 wins in a combined 66 games this year in the SCTA, that it was time to shut down one if not both of the Niagara Falls programs. When was the last time one of these teams was even competitive? Parents of marginal AAA kids will freak out, complain and wine, but its not AA if you cant compete.

Shut it down, maybe shut both Niagara teams down.

There are three teams in Niagara, not two.
There should be only one though.

Agreed, eliminate two teams and build one strong team.

please dont fold nf - would miss your hilarious threads, the constant chaos and the guaranteed 4 wins every season. If you had a bar in your rink it would be perfect.

There are three teams in the Niagara Falls area, but to have two specifally in Niagara? Its just stupid. I would love to see both Niagara teams fold, as they never even have a sniff of competitiveness.

Played on the 96 MM AAA team last season and I completely agree with past statements. This is an organization that doesn't have a clue when it comes to development and showcasing kids. A number of kids that should have had at least a sniff never did.

Get out if you can...all those years your son has put in will not be recognized. If you do stay...HIRE AN ADVISOR. It's the only way scouts will pay attention to a NF Rivermen player.

not so fast - iced a full team on the ice against burlington the other night and competed against a team that will compete for top spots in scta - plus many new faces on the way!

All the STA castoffs that nobody wants

8:00 - Slow down! The only way Burlington will be in the 'A' pool come SCTA weekend is if they don't get those extra couple of points through the season to climb into 7th place. Burlington is going nowhere, so don't be too proud you competed with them.

803 - Dog the Bounty Hunter couldnt track down players for 97 Rivermen.

8:00am....

Ill take the past five years as more of a beromator then one single exhibitino game.

did the kid who played for sta last year get his F1

1014 - everything can change at MM

11:20

Sure, but given that the Niagara Falls area has won something like 20 games in 5 years of Minor Midget hockey? From the 93-96s, there really have not been any players develop.

Its pretty straight forward to me. Its not a AAA program, not competitive and not developing any players to the next level. If over the past 4-5 years you have not developed many players, then whats the point of a AAA program?

If they only have 10 players rostered so far this year? Thats scary, could be worse then the 96's.

Top end kids have the ability to go to Welland and play for a better program. The only ones who stick around in St. Catharines are the ones who are boarderline AAA players.

Sorry, thats not what AAA is about.

and who are you oh great wise man? Please do share all your vast hockey wisdom and experience with us. What would you do if your kid was stuck in nfr zone and was a legit aaa player and couldnt get out. Quit?

tell the coach to make trades.

Im not wise, simply stating facts. Anyone can look up facts. The last 4 years has been awful for Niagara Falls, and anyone who argues otherwise is blind.

You more then anyone should be chearing for them to shut down, it would open up your kid (assuming he is a legit AAA player, dads are awful judges but Ill take you at your word) to go to Southern Tier or Hamilton.

Either way, no one with a straight face can argue that Niagara Falls is a AAA centre, because the last 4 years of draft history and a lack of competitive play against most if not all other AAA teams shows otherwise.

Niagara Falls, STA, Niagara North coaches are in discussion on what they have and want from each other.

Thanks JB from STA via Hamilton BD. I guess there is nobody left in those two centres that you havent pissed off so now you bother us.

coaches in mm make deals with each other and have forever

what could coach at nfr possibly offer anyone of those teams

Lots of parents with rose coloured glasses and lots of Single A players or could just give them the 2 points now

coach hanging out last night in hamilton v sta - licking his chops about the prospect of single a cuts coming his way. shame on him and bs for doing the dirty on the sta kid. typical nfr. even want to screw kids not involved with your zone. 2 twin season coming up - 'OPIE'

1103- it gets worse - how come sta kid gets stuck but bs budy's kid jm gets his release to go to sta - again? lol

STA Kid was released by STA

cool

goaltending?

sta kid was released by sta so he could go elsewhere, no controversy anywhere - other centres as a courtesy waived him through to go where he wanted .NFR didnt have the class and wouldnt do that. take a bow - ww and bs - like other kids who have left you cant bully or intimidate them to remain - you wont win this either. enjoy your 4 point season

Responding to Post:

JM got his release to STA ?????
They say he has not been at their tryouts?
IS he going to STA ?

JM got cut from STA

JM has not been to STA Tryouts... Appears hes trying to excerise his release from NF.
Who wouldnt ? They had how many wins last year? Shut this centre down at the AAA level.

JM was at STA tryouts but got cut quickly

That's gotto hurt

JM want at STA tryouts and didnt get cut as hed NF property and they wont give him his F1 you Idiot.
My son plays on STA so trying to stir Bullshit u fkn idiot.

Just curious. Has this team ever had non parent coaching or always a dad?

This team has been a parent social club from peewee to major bantam. Don't know the new coach well but I can say he's taken steps in the right direction to make this team at the very least, better than the prior years.

hahahahaha

840 - how are those remedial english lessons working out?

JM has not stepped on the ice at STA. he needs his release from NF to do so. NF won't give it to him. JM not has not been to a NF tryout either, he doesn't want to play there. So do the right thing NF and give him his release. You're holding a kid ransom for a team with 10 players. That is classless. Just as classless as not giving JCT his release to Burlington. So he went to HBD instead. Do you feel good about holding kids up from where they want to play. Your org is classless. Be decent and let JM go.

rules are rules and sometimes karma's a bitch.

@ 10:12

From the sounds of 8:40 he's hooked on something, but it's not Phonics

top of his class in the grade 8 welland spelling bee - 5 years in a row.

How many players has NFR signed?

7 - four forwards, 2 d, 1 g. good number of the a team from last year cut.

8:40 Really, because I actually AM a parent on STA and he was at tryouts along with TE

No problem. Just get the boy to call his position when he comes off so the one on the bench going out knows where he's going.

STA has already signed 2 goalies. Neither of which are JM

11:11 - Wrong JM, we're talking about a forward.

JM from NF - cant get back to sta because no 'trade' available to date - nobody from sta wants to go to nf

JM should eventually get his release. Coach can't be that much of a prick

why should he - others have asked and have been told no. he aint that special.

Your team is going to fold. Maybe not today but in the Fall when no other kids show up. Then what happens to good players like JM (the forward).

fair enough point if thats the case. if he is that good someone will 'find' a spot for him.

There are more than enough cast-offs to put a team in NF. They won't be good, but there will be a team.

Good players like JM the forward who are over rated, a cancer in the dressing room, pick on other kids, and don't live up to the hype who is a legend in his own mind ? He'll get his release but might be to A

Who is coming to this team?

Will likely have to rely on picking up a lot of other team's cuts to fill the remaining roster spots. It's risky but why go with the same players as last year when that clearly didn't work.

Well as a parent on one of the better teams, I hope they do something to ice a more competitive team so I don't have to drive an hour on a work night for another brutal blow out. It's bad for both sides.

this team is sickening...what a bunch of primadonnas who are nowhere near as good as theyd like to think they are....12 wins combined in 2 years and yet everyone thinks they belong somewhere else....what an embarrassment

MP smooth move having your kid show up in a hoodie tonight and play sick
where was JW?

What a bunch of losers

tell that to big 89 or - to be official - his family advisor/agent.

NF..The got Pounded something like 9-2 vs STA ... and oh... The lost the Fight as well !!!!!
Kid got smoked !!!!
This Team woouldnt beat a AA team..Horrible !

dont forget the big check on nfr's hothead followed by his refusal to drop the gloves.

Not to kill the bash-party or anything but you guy's do realize that the roster v.s. STA had about 4 players that will for sure be in the final roster? Don't get me wrong, STA is a much better team but to make judgements based on a tryout game...

Right....cant wait for the airlift of last-minute Marlie cuts to arrive.

It's called taking kids off from last year who didn't belong, and fill those spots with kids who are better than the kids from last year (St. Catharines, Welland, wherever). No it won't make for an Oakville calibre team but still a more competitive team than the last year. If you're an STA parent wouldn't you prefer more competition rather than wasting your teams time ever game.

"Not to kill the bash-party or anything but you guy's do realize that the roster v.s. STA had about 4 players that will for sure be in the final roster? Don't get me wrong, STA is a much better team but to make judgements based on a tryout game..."

How about we make judgements on the last 5 years of Niagara Falls at the AAA level?

How abot we make judgements on the last few years of 97's in Niagara?

Exactly, that's why you remove the majority of the kids from the prior years? Make sense?

But you replaced them with lesser players.

Plus, as I said, look at the past 5 years of Minor Midget for Niagara Falls, its not exaclty roses. What makes you think this will be any different?

They haven't even been replaced yet?
And what makes it different?

For one a non-parent coaching staff.
Coaches not signing players based on which parents they are friends with.
Less of a team of parents trying to promote their kids and more of a focus on playing the kids who EARN the ice time.

Trust me I am not one to defend NFMHA, there has been an it's okay to lose culture for years. I really don't know too much about the young coaching staff but I do think it's good that they're at least TRYING to do something drastically different than the past years. Not giving into the parental schmoozing, not putting up with certain kids attitudes and so on. The year hasn't even started really, not sure if they will be able to make a huge difference in the standings but at least they are attempting to raise the standard.

8:50 don't get me wrong but you do relieaze STA still didn't dress 5 of there regulars as well

Absolutely, it was a tryout game period and end of story. Not the right kind of games to make predictions, otherwise the Blue Jays would be in 1st right now wouldn't they.

But thats not the point of AAA. The point of AAA is to develop and get players ready for the next level. How often has Niagara Falls done that? If they barely can compete in AAA (evidance is very strong over the past 5 years, top to bottom) then why is there a program at all?

10:04 I'm on the same page as you. Been involved in NF hockey for many years and don't very often agree with what happens in the organization. I wish the new coach all the best. He at least has a clear direction and is making some changes. From what I hear, he's also trying to stick to the rules and not give releases. He is trying to build the best team he can. Many players, especially recently, tried to get releases so they could get more exposure. Well, it didn't work for any but one that I can think of in the last two years.

For the sake of the Rivermen, I for one, hope this coach can restore some faith in the team. Maybe people should give him a chance before they start to bash him?

maybe niagara falls aaa should fold and join the sta zone but as always egos of board members stand in the way of children developing their hockey skills

The majority of decent teams pull in players from nearby centers. At the minor midget level the team should be treated as if it were a junior team. The best available players (under the rules) should be the ones playing. Not only the players that are born in Niagara Falls. If a parent wants to drive from Stoney Creek, Grimsby or whatever so their kid can play AAA that is their choice. Why let the better players from larger cities (Hamilton etc.) get stuck playing AA or A when they are better than kids playing AAA 45 minutes away.

How many players are signed?

10:56, I think you're onto something. I'm not sure, but don't JR teams have some low minimum of 3-5 players from the geographical surroundings, and the rest are imports? That's how it should work for minor midget.

I don't think the score was an exact representation of the STA game. NF goalies were weakest players. I thought NF looked better than last year's squad. You're on to something, keep it up. Better competition helps everyone.

What are you talking about? The NF goalies were their best players agaisnt STA. Not 1 bad goal. The entire 2nd and 3rd period played in NF zone. WOW. Every AAA team runs like a Jr. team. Bringing in imports is nothing new. The problem is all NF is getting is scraps from very weak AAA teams meaning they were never AAA players to begin with. This is when past years of development is suppose to pay off.

the biggest problem on this team is the parents.....give your kids a chance.

"What are you talking about? The NF goalies were their best players agaisnt STA. Not 1 bad goal. The entire 2nd and 3rd period played in NF zone. WOW. Every AAA team runs like a Jr. team. Bringing in imports is nothing new. The problem is all NF is getting is scraps from very weak AAA teams meaning they were never AAA players to begin with. This is when past years of development is suppose to pay off."


All the more reason to shut it down...

NF GOALIES STINK NF PLAYERS STINK CLOSE THE CENTER CLOSE THE CENTER

cant help but wonder where this team would have been had this coach had this team last year - no dads on the bench, no single a etc

from someone close to the tryouts so far ...

coach has excellent direction and holds players accountable...they wont win many games but the kids who want to go on in hockey are going to learn a ton....give this kid a chance - cant do any worse than you have

They guy who left for florida during the week every AAA team is releasing players?

Group of parents whacked coach is a disaster and we had a non parent coach with DV TC and AS for 2 years so that certainly isn't the answer nor is this kid too young not knowledgeable enough and parents will definitely influence ice time once team is picked
Shut it down all NFR is an embarrassment let the records speak for themselves thankfully 97's limping to an end

4:08 Periods are your friend. A few of them may make your ramble make a little sense?

Let the season start before coming down on the coach. The kids who didn't belong on AAA last year are for the most part now going where they belong, single A. Hopefully he can find some kids who can play at a decent level to fill their spots. They are not that hard to find, often kids get cut from other AAA teams and have the ability to play AAA. Coaches aren't perfect, kids DO sometimes get screwed over so icing a decent team this year wouldn't be that much of a miracle. Take a breathe, relax and let the kids fill in the blanks next year.

Heard from reliable source that OHF has had complaints regarding recruitment/tampering by Brampton, Halton, Oakville, Hamilton and STA. Investigations are now underway. This could get ugly.

Heard the coach was going to have a mean game of rock paper scissors for the remaining spots on the team ?

throwing darts.............

how many out for last nighrts skate

Is this Team still Holding a Fall Tryout? How many players signed?
Has JM (fwd) gone to STA?

16 skaters and 5 goalies last night. Did he sign them all?

No

there going to field a team, revamping

Is he signing them no or in the fall?

all cards were signed last night. Team is full.

no, it isnt

is it full or isn't it???

it isnt

Dont believe this idiot poster!

Contact the Coach, OMHA has allowed them to have a short fall Tryout.


He is still looking for 5 players & 1 Goalie.

he's not looking for a goalie

where is he going to find 5 players and a goalie in the fall? AA teams will be picked. NF single A again. He has already passed on players better than he is going to get in the fall if he waits. Time to S___ or get off the pot.

they dont need 5 players and a goalie

they need 2 or 3 players with options in place

I'm beleive the title of this thread is correct. NF won't ice a team this year. Get serious about this team and get it togther. Every other AAA team is finalized, what are we waiting for?

must be someone who got cut speaking again

if you got cut then go talk on your new teams blog....if you can find a new team

heard theres a competitive ball hockey league starting up in st catharines

Whats going on with this team sounds like a horror show already

1:39 he ain't answering his email!

f you guys. team all but decided. captain and assitants awarded to those kids who stuck with this team. at least three will be drafted. they are deserving. previous leaders show what they are about. others left and will come crawling back only exception is the kid who will lead NN

And HOW does anybody on NFR deserve to get drafted??!!

3 will get drafted, lol, to where the 12B high school team ?

Stuck with this team and lead them to 6 wins per year scoring 7 goals per year that's what the OHL is looking for team is a disaster and always has been

Thanks for the laugh this morning I needed that

3 will get drafted, lol, to where the 12B high school team ?

Stuck with this team and lead them to 6 wins per year scoring 7 goals per year that's what the OHL is looking for team is a disaster and always has been

Thanks for the laugh this morning I needed that

The best part is AT LEAST 3 will get drafted

Thanks for the morning funnies. they got letters hence they get drafted.......hahahahaha. did your family advisor tell you that. save the cash for your kids bail.

Ignorant rookie coach never coached over 10AAA and got killed there for 2 years cuts 2 AAA goalies for an underager in minor midget year is absolutely ridiculous 4 year starter held team in the few games they were in back up progressing well

Cocky young coach over his head on the executive so it was a done deal before it began another black mark on NFMHA put people in place where they belong this just isn't right

hey chuck...mix in some punctuation once in awhile

Pretty sad to blame the kid's dad just someone on this team for years who has watched coach after coach and disaster after disaster thankfully coming to an end just feel sorry for the kid, deserved a better fate as opposed to being cut for hockey politics and an underager at minor midget

coach too young no idea what he is doing and will not be able to control these kids especially new assitant captain JC now there's leadership !

let JM go

by the way you're rambling on and on, it must only be 1 person. the same drunk who took his kid somewhere else and then wasn't good enough to make it

Everyone should go on the NN thread and read how much their team sucks, then realize if you were to fold this team and combine with NN them maybe you would have something competititve and the rest play AA where they belong.

So they cut both goalies from last year and have only signed a 98 tender? What's going on here?

2 goalies are signed

Signed 98 goalie and A level goalie from Welland shouldn't lose too bad

team already looks better than last year's BB soccer team

1121 - care to elaborate

who cares about who is in or out - your team is going to suck. 2 win seasom -shut it down and spare the rest of us the gas and time

Team is comprised of perhaps 1-3 AAA level players and all the cuts from other centres to make up the composition of the Team.

What will happen when Oakville plays them with their Fab 5 players from all over Ontario come in....11 -0 it wont be pretty, time to shut this AAA centre down and perhaps amalgamate it with Niagara North as they are bad too!

Long ...Long...Long Season ahead.

cocky young coach trying to prove he is smarter than everyone else going to find out the hard way he isn't

lay off. like so many of these posts they are written by non-97 parents trying to stir crap up. Leave it alone. The fact is that there is going to be a widened gap between the top three four teams and everyone else. Lets wait until the games are actually played this season before you start running this coaching staff.

Rectal engagement is banned in the niagara region

Fitting quote for this team and take it seriously

the prisoners are going to run the prison

as is usually the case, the players and the coaches are not the biggest problem with this hockey team

guesss your kid got sent back to the super single 'a's' - hope you enjoyed last year.

@ 11:12

What is the hard way he finds this out, lose most of the games like last season?

The team last year was terrible already, there's nowhere to go but up.

Several decent players from outside centres including a AAA Goalie Contacted the Coach and he hasnt to this day returned a phone call or email...........How does that happen on a team that will win 4-6 games all year long.

coach is dumb

AAA goaltending experience is 98 goalie and that's it in for a long long year

Coach is brilliant just ask him

ask your wife

I did, she said she couldn't stay over coach still lives with mommy and daddy, heck he will still be there by the time some of these kids move into their first cell

can we find you something to do?

Who got signed?

if you need to ask, then not you

Sorry, I guess I will hear at the press conference. Didn't know it was top secret.

has to be kept a secret as ten kids from russia defecting to the Falls shhhhh!

just saying, if you don't know who was signed - you clearly weren't. we went in and paid our fee and got the email from the manager like anyone else on the team

go fuck yourself you arrogant ass, your team will suck

probably but what does it matter who was signed? just so you can take shots at my son and his teammates? youre right, i'm the ass

right on both counts - we should wait until September to start laughing at your team and yes, you are an ass

525 way to go. Don't feed these A-holes any info.

A team will clearly beat this sad excuse for an AAA team

Dont count them out yet ex blackhawk may help team

what????

@ 11:16, if you mean the single a team you must be one of those soccer parents from last year. Sucks when your buddies not the coach anymore eh.

Don't count on ex Blackhawk helping either that has been linked to 10 teams in the past few years with 0 results

0 a number this team should get used to

At the end of the day these are still 14 and 15 year old kids. If your kid got cut then I am sorry to hear that I wouldn't rub it in his face because AS a 14 and 15 year old it's very tough. If knocking the KIDS on this team makes you feel better about yourself then so be it, but in the big picture you're just a clown.

812 - right on. now, who/what is the black hawk stuff all about?

what

A team will beat this sad excuse for a coach and team

yes, sad excuse indeed

i'm not even sure they deserve to live...

@ 12:39

Have fun travelling to dunnville and west lincoln you disgruntled father. Better luck next year. The A team is pretty much last years AAA team, which lost to Oakville's AA team LOL

hmmmm.... was that a compliment or an insult?

my cock smells like salmon

with this years team it would be considered a moral victory to lose to Oakville AA team they will lose A tournaments

In your dreams, don't let your ego get in the way of the kids who deserve to be on the AAA team.

A parents should be happy. Would you rather be on a first class A team and be an effective contributing player or watch your son struggle with the play at AAA? its not like this is a 20 win or even a 10 win team we're talking about. if your kid doesnt belong, just accept it and move on.

Just accept it, shut up and move on. At least you won't be on a crappy 'A' team, just let your kid have fun and enjoy the year.

Putting down the kids on the AAA team really doesn't help anyone nor will it help heal your emotional wounds. High school was over for you a LONG time ago buddy.

If your kid doesn't belong ? 90% of this team has played A at some point

The dream is over for every 97 in Niagara Falls no matter what the arrogant coach says no matter what the family advisor or bailiff says but this is an aweful team and you cannot argue it could have been alot better

Coaching has lacked in Niagara for years, big deal, no reason to jump on the dreams of kids asswipe. Just because you lead a lame life doesn't mean you have to be a dream killer. Am I saying that right now I see some kids from the falls jumping to the NHL in 3 years, not at all, but who are you or I to tell them they can't accomplish a goal?

Claude Giroux played A all his life then AA minor midget. No OHL team would even let him walk on for a tryout so he went and got a walk on in the QMJHL. The rest is history.

in what way could it have been a lot better? pleeeease do tell. there were players who were marginal to make the A team

I lead anything but a lame life lol

Yes, you are right there are tons of Claude Giroux type players on this AAA team and in A here in the Falls, give your head a shake you delusional fool and the poor coaching will certainly continue

This team may not even beat an A team and it's not bashing kids it's reality something you are clearly lacking

There is a reason JCT wanted out, BB wanted out, JM refuses to play here, and others wanted no part of this mess

this team shouldn't even be allowed to compete as a minor midget team

This team hasn't even played a game yet bud, so how would you even know? Have you seen the team play any games with a final roster? There's a long summer for kids to train so again hockey expert, zip it.

Why must all these posts be about bashing teams and coaches. If you are so much better why aren't you coaching AAA?

I somewhat agree, but in all honesty, what is the next 3 months going to do for a players development that hasn't happened already? It's not going to make a '4' player a '9' player. Maybe he'll improve to a 4.5 or 5, which is the case for most of the talent in NF. Not the boys' fault, just a fact of life in that centre.

1:42pm

Team hasn't developed in 6 years and you think they will now over the next 3 months in MM year ?

With a brutal coach ? With kids that don't belong ?

"with a brutal coach and kids that don't belong"

what kids don't belong? the only ones from NF that made it are AAA players....unfortunately your son wasn't good enough to make it

as far as the coach goes, might be young but what grounds do you have to say he's brutal?

sounds a lot like sour grapes to me....

chuck/sue, why don't you call it a day and leave the team alone?

cant run a team on 5 forwards 3 d and two goalies playing out of their depth. Coaching staff that didnt even come to sctas last year to see who was who in the league. just saying that its going to be a long year.

LOL didn't come to sctas to watch...youre classic

I am not Chuck/Sue so get that right before you accuse

I am with 2001 team and he couldn't coach them win total only increased and that was because Grey Bruce joined. Parents a mess, kids a mess, and it was a gong show for two years with parents running the show and some quitting and going to DB

Will never control these kids at MM just a fact couldn't control 10 year olds and that means they will be brutal on ice with no discipline or structure

Attitudes at 10 yr old AAA already? Must have had something to do with Dad in the car telling the kid how he should be getting more ice time and that he knows way more than coach.

exactly.... if my kids had attitude they know they would get an ass kicking by their dad. It always comes from the parents

youre from the 01 team on a 97 and older board? what a stalker...

hey 2001 parent.....coach prolly couldnt control your kid because he is a PUTZ like you.....only a loser comes on a MM board to talk about his lame excuse for a son not being able to be controlled as a 10year old.

Can we please find you something to do? Heres an idea:

Why dont you log off the internet for a few days and focus on parenting so youre son doesnt have to go through life being a tool like youve become.

its all a disguise. see the anonymity? he can be anyone he says he wants to be, but we know you're not with the 01 team. and if you are, you seem to sure know a lot about this 97 team (or seem to think you do at least)

That's true. Who are you? Post it.

Harry Butz

Big Red

Big Red? Her kid going in the draft - probably in the first 2 rounds.

not much to know coach jerked around a bunch of kids, signed them, cut them the next day, lied to parents to run and profit off spring team same as last year

that's simply a lie

sadly it is the truth

It's minor hockey in Canada, naturally there will be 15-19 happy parents and several more disgruntled ones. At the end of the day it is just a game.

agreed but the games should be left on the ice not playing kids and parents against one another

that doesn't even make sense

if you think the games should be left on the ice then leave them there you mutt and stop posting.

youre prolly the reason your kid got cut you sad excuse for a parent.

My kid didn't get cut made this sad excuse for a team again which means i have to endure another season of watching this team pretend to play hockey and discuss all the reasons we suck and listen to all the parents think their kid is great but all the others aren't and don't belong. Only good thing is no more CG show and his merry A soccer followers but this doesn't look much better as coach clearly has no clue

stop and think why does everyone want out of here ?

then tell us oh mighty enlightened one...if no one else has a clue, clearly you do

"stop and think why does everyone want out of here ?"

Well, based on the fact that Niagara Falls has not produced a player to the OHL/NCAA in how long? It's easily one of the worst AAA centre's out there. At least Chatham and other poor teams have sent kids to the OHL.

if you don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't bother making a fool of yourself...there are SEVERAL NF players in the OHL

matt mcleod brampton
ben harpur guelph
brett foy mississauga
eric diodati mississauga
alex friesen niagara
johnson andrews niagara
jake cardwell ottawa
jarrod maidens (left his last year) owen sound

what about justin shugg? taylor beck?

So 3 93's and a 95.

Maidens played with the Nationals for 3 years and moved to Hamilton for him MM year. He had nothing to do with Niagara Falls.
Diodati played in the GTHL as well.

When Johnston Andrews is one of your poster children for development, theres an issue.

Niagara Falls has 1-2 kids a year that could be something. That doesnt mean that they are a AAA Centre. Let those kids play in better develompent aeras.

And all those kids had to fight to get out of NF just to have a chance. JM won't even list he is from the Falls becasue BS and the boys gave him so much trouble he lists hometown as Grimsby

Left for 3 years prior to after a fight no one admits to being from here because the organization is so bad

97 team has no one to look at to go to the next level 97 draft one of weakest in years and this team will be in lower tier tournaments, kids under developed which isn't their fault, have had BL,DV,TC,AS,CG and now WW a know it all kid as coaches = no chance, and every coach has been on the executive, been a parent, or had some influence on what happens with this team

no matter what your family advisor or warden says no one from this team going anywhere

there seems to be a LOT of know it alls with this team, maybe WW will fit in just right

I wouldn't be shocked if a couple kids went on to play jr. a or b. You can't tell if a kid is going to develop over a summer. A few of these kids have a good set of hockey skills that just need some strong work ethic to go along with it. Crazier things have happened. Then again you scout parents know it all anyways right.

Just because Niagara Falls has 2-3 players in the OHL doesnt make them a AAA Centre. Hell, Some families have 3-4 players in the OHL over 4-5 years, does that make that families home a AAA Centre?

Look at the success of the team from the 92's on. Its embarrassing. It's not like there is a massive amount of players who are stars who fail to develop either. Its just not a AAA centre. True AAA centre's dont win 1 game a year. Trule AAA centres dont have to look to
91's as their claim to fame while the 92s - 96s do nothing.

They have 3-4 AAA players and the rest are AA, simple as that.

I don't disagree with that. The Niagara North/Rivermen teams should become one, unfortunately it probably won't ever happen due to registration revenue.

Unfortunately it's about the money, but also the power struggle with the " old boys club " from St. C and NF , both want control , both sides have had it good for a long time , some have even made a good chunk of change off of hockey parents , now the end is near and it's time for fresh faces with hockey experience, newer faces in the coaching ranks , make the region's best play for a one team , the rest play AA or A where they belong and have the parents come back to reality and realize little Johnny just isn't good enough . With the size of St. Kitts , you have to wonder why it doesn't have a better AAA system ??? Oh yeah, now i know why ..............

whatever it is these kids wont benefit from any changes -as unlikely as they are. Going to be a tough year and probably worse than last year because of the improvements just about every other team has made in recruiting. Hope WW can get as much as possible out them.

Diamond in the rough?

having been at the skates all summer, we know there's not a lot of talent but i'm impressed with what i've seen out of the coaching and all helpers...keep it up boys

thanks kp

Too bad -going to get crushed. Probably looking at 2-3 wins more larger schedule because of regals. That is if team doesnt fold.

116 - wonder how impressed you will be driving to oakville and getting your ass handed to you 15 zip? same coaching staff that promised great things years ago and couldnt deliver

i think everyone agrees they're not going to win a lot of games. to expect anyone to be able to turn them into a winning team is pretty unrealistic...
from where i stand, its all we can ask of the coaches. don't be a moron.

Who cares there going to be alot of teams that are going to be beat by Oakville or maybe not we shall see.

Hey 3:15 15 Zip like Oakville at NN?

Pretty sure NN will take all the points