Any word so far?

Cornwall is a hole.

Is there a link for the results from the exhibition games?

Process is joke taking so many form each center.

here's the 70 invitees:
http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/article/70-ohl-prospects-at-ontario-u17-camp

and yeah Cornwall is a hole.

Is Burgess kid there? Didn't see him in Kirkland Lake at the NOHA U17 camp.

Get over it Lino, the little superstar is no longer

http://www.hdco.on.ca/web_pages/documents/u17_2012provcamp_plyrosters.pdf

Here is complete list. Missing a few non-OHL from the north, some no shows/changes and a few undrafted.

anywhere you can find results for the games?

thanks, Ted

Day 1 Scores: Black 3 Red 2 and White 4 Orange 0.
Day 2 Scores: Orange 6 Red 3 and Black 5 White 3.

So far my Ontario team Would look like this:

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Jeremiah Addison
Damian Bourne Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo
Jared McCann

Michael Cramarossa and Keegan Blasby have looked strong as well.

Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Matthew Watson
Jacob Middleton Kyle Locke
Travis Dermott

Daniel Desousa could easily be in top six with his play but when his white team got back in the game with the black team (down 3-0 to down 4-3) and momemtum in there favor, he gets mad, cross checks a kid for a 2 min minor and then to dispute the call cross checks another kid right into the ref on the way to the box for another two min minor resulting in four minutes in penalties. Out comes team blacks Connor McDavid, Spencer Watson, and Alexanre Renaud and the game is over within first 25 seconds of the four min power play.

However, until that point Desousa was in the top 6 before both Locke and Middleton. Maybe disapline won't keep him off but for me today in this halfway point personal opinion mock team it has.

Still two more games each and three months of ohl hockey to play though before final roster is picked so lots of time to change my irrelevant mind and get on to the minds of the real hockey canada people picking final team.

Goog luck to all players!

What goalies would be on your team?

Brent Moran
Cameron Hackett

Mark Singh and Riley Brown have been good as well

5:14, good, fair post. well done.

5:14 - did your picks change following today's games?

Where is Jared Mccann ?

Where is the first round pick to Kitchener???

missing Hiddink ; should be with the top forwards

Great weekend of hockey for all the boys.
In my mind there was not one player who completely
Dominated in this event. Mcdavid was the best playe but did not take over like he normally does.
Dissapoinents:
Damien Bourne - looked out if place all weekend.
Schmaltz - continues to struggle
Roland M. Not his. Best hockey weekend.
McCann- did not find anyone to gel with on white team.
Burgess- third round come on

The rest of the others drafted in first 2-3 rounds played as expected , very good.

Surprises:
Kyle petit - looked good replaceing nick petty
Desousa - played very tough and made some nice rushes
Murphy- good speed great Hustle and team player .
Lindo- always knew he was a bull but showed good hands also.
Blasby-good honest hard working player .
Dalcole - more speed than I saw last year.
Sam Bennett -real good player.

I could name 50 others here as all boys played very well.

Why was Locke there? He did not advance from the last camp.

About Burgess, he didn't advance. Oh ya Daddy owns an OHL team. He's terrible anyway.

Burgess was on the list.

White team was very good, balanced team. Fwds had lots of ammo. D had mix of skill and toughness. Goalies were adequate and sometimes good. Didnt get tested much except for some transition game by Black team IMO.
Very good hockey overall. Fast paced and great puck movement for players that most hadnt played with before.

Who ended up winning the exhibition games?

My son played on red team and said the Burgess boy was a really nice guy and was great to have on his team.
Let's leave it at that.

Black played White in the Final. Black was out to a big lead (think it was 4-1) and white came storming back. Penalties hurt White early, but the Fwds started to click and D got a couple nice goals early in the third. Tied 4-4 late in game, White ended up winning in OT.
thought cm was tired in this game, white had too much power at the end of the game. Thought all 4 goalies played well.
White D in my mind were the strongest of the bunch. White Fwds were quick, relentless and all could shoot the puck.
Great few days of hockey!

How do players that didnt make the cut to get here, all of a sudden get an invite?
Maybe Scouts should have done a better job with Priority Selections?

Here is the Winning White Squad Roster:

1
Matthew
Mancina
G
6'1
160
Sun County Panthers
MHAO
30
Michael
Singh
G
6'0
150
Southern Tier Admirals
OMHA
2
Kyle
Locke
RD
6'0
190
York-Simcoe Express
OMHA
3
Matthew
Watson
RD
5’10
155
London Jr. Knights Gold
MHAO
4
Daniel
Desousa
RD
6'0
170
Toronto Marlboros
GTHL
5
Travis
Dermott
LD
5'8
165
York-Simcoe Express
OMHA
6
Jonathan
Masters
RD
6'0
170
Thunder Bay Kings
HNO
7
Nevada
Waindubence
LD
6'2
190
Sudbury Midgets
NOHA
8
Dylan
DiPerna
RD
6'1
170
Mississauga Rebels
GTHL
9
Jared
McCann
LC
6'0
170
London Jr. Knights Gold
MHAO
10
Jaren
Bellini
RW
5'9
165
Soo North Stars
NOHA
11
Andrew
Abou-Assaly
LW
6'0
162
Ottawa Jr. 67's
ODHA
12
Keegan
Blasby
RW
6'1
185
Markham Waxers
OMHA
14
Tanner
Lafrance
LW
5'10
176
New Liskeard Midgets
NOHA
15
Hunter
Racine
RW
5'10
173
Ottawa Jr. 67's
ODHA
16
Matt
Schmalz
RW
6'5
185
Southern Tier Admirals
OMHA
17
Jaden
Lindo
RW
6'0
185
Toronto Marlboros
GTHL
18
Michael
Amadio
RC
6'0
175
Soo North Stars
NOHA
19
Robert
Fabbri
LC
5'10
160
Mississauga Rebels
GTHL
20
Owen
MacDonald
RC
5'9
155
Guelph Jr. Storm
OMHA
21
Tristen
Elie
LW
5'10
165
Eastern Ontario Wild
ODHA
G.M.

Last chance to pimp your kids after years of pimping. Lots of great players this past week, hard to say someone really really stood out after a small amount of games. Lets just say for arguements sake that all the G players are the best and make all their dads happy. Now lets go to junior and really see.

Who were the best goalies for the weekend

hey Mr Watson from London - stop the bull shit NOW!!!

stop posting names, you would be the only guy to post your kid to be on top in the defensemen category, MW didn't even make it out of the Alliance top 4, smartin up, I had a little respect for you before but now you're a joke...

you other son SW has some real talent, i would put him in the top 10...

stop the BS please....we all know who you are...

How do you KNOW it is him?

I heard he was talking about his son on D in Cornwall, he always talked about his kids and only his kids, not once did he ask me about my 3 boys in hockey

I have his IP address and i work in the IP dept....

yes Mr Watson can be like that, he did it with our Knights this past season and with the Nationals also.

he has a big ego, but he means well

To 8:46,

Sorry if i offended you, I assure u my name is not Mr. Watson. I was only able to attend the first two games of each team and these were the players that stood out to me the most. As a previous poster said the white team was the most well rounded and mw and kyle locke should well in those two games shutting down cm, sw, ar line. Cm, Sw, Ar, had two points each but scored the only two times they weren't out against Kl and Mw.

Mw lacks one thing, Size. Didn't stop him though, laid out hargraves in second game who is suppose to be a big power forward.

Mw has lots of tools from what i could see. Mw has speed, skill, let off the two hardest shots i seen from the point, ability to rush, and few possess a first pass like him.

Lay off the size and give some of these smaller players a chance. Where would
Ottawa be without Erik Karlsson or to a lesser extent where will toronto be gardiner in a few years.

I knew i would be labeled a dad when i decided to include both of the brothers but i figured it would be a lot quicker then this.

If u were there you would not be making this statement because at this level with the top players of the age group in attendence you kinda felt sorry for the bigger guys. The bigger players just seem to be a couple steps behind the play all the time.

Again i am not a dad of the watson twins or anyone in attendence for that matter but am a fan of the game within distance of cornwall to drive back and forth to catch a couple games multiple days.

10:42am I have his IP address and i work in the IP dept....

So?

There is nothing you can do with it anyways.

Hey 10:42,

I'll make it easy for you, my Ip is a Lanark County Ip. This One, my last one where u called me mr. watson, and i tell u otherwise and now this one, all same IP and if you keep choosing to cut players up or there family up for being better then your own my responses will continue to be a lanark county Ip.

So?

IP departmenr

Thats funny

Ya I know sort of.

why were players there that didnt make it through the last cut? wow...must have been a little embarassing dont you think? can you buy your way to the final?

It's all a bit irrelevant anyway isn't it?

No one was "cut" after Cornwall. Not to mention, someone could jump out completely in their first OHL season that wasn't even in Cornwall (unlikely BUT possible) and make the FINAL team.

From here on in these things are a process, a long and winding road to build a TEAM for elite competitions. You can throw the rulebook out the window.

hey who remembers these players?

Colt Kennedy
Ryan Martindale
Brett Flemming
Peter Hermengildo
Daniel Maggio
Bryce O’Hagen

I don't! Who are they?

they all played on the Ont U17 team a few years back

just bc you make it or not does not mean anything

Yeah, for alot the U17's could be the highlight of their hockey careers!

exactly

it is higher than I ever made so more power to them (the players not the parents)and enjoy the ride because for most of them they will join the working world and sometimes it is not as fun

11:49, just because they are not household names ala Stamkos or JT doesn't mean they are either dusters or assholes.

I'll never understand the point of listing names of players just to say what they have done or what they are doing now is meaningless.

the bottom line is they have accomplished more in the game than the jackass posting about them.

posts like that really show the ignorance and bitterness of the poster rather than anything to do with the player.

what's the end game to a post like that? pull your kid out of hockey because .00000000000001% of all players will "make it"?

oh, life's tough? really? seriously?

holy fak, we had no clue.

...sorry for the rant but posts like that are really meaningless. just like saying I know your IP addy - that and a buck still won't get you a coffee at Timmy's. good luck with that.

?????

? mark guy, what do you need me to explain to you in English?

It would help to know what you are talking about? I know what an IP address is.

great.

Ryan Martindale and Brett Flemming where drafted into the NHL. Have contracts lol. Better names dude, do some research

His point was made.

How many kids make it to the NHL and weren't on the U17 team? Probably lots! Enjoy the ride and don't worry about it.

epic fail

Hats off to the smaller athletes this past week in Cornwall. Shows skill, heart and desire will beat big and comfortable most of the time. These guys outmuscled their bigger counterparts much of the camp!

It's a process for the big and smaller boys. Lets see what the small guys do against men in September. Big boys will get quicker, smaller players will get stronger.

Re: U-17 Cornwall July.4-9/12 July 9 2012, 1:36 PM


Ryan Martindale and Brett Flemming where drafted into the NHL. Have contracts lol. Better names dude, do some research


NHL or ECHL contracts?

Re: U-17 Cornwall July.4-9/12 July 9 2012, 2:21 PM


It's a process for the big and smaller boys. Lets see what the small guys do against men in September. Big boys will get quicker, smaller players will get stronger.


what men?

in the ohl?

Good point. Field is levelling. Do what you do well and do it well!

2:23pm Yes, in the OHL.

Re: U-17 Cornwall July.4-9/12 July 9 2012, 2:28 PM


2:23pm Yes, in the OHL.


not even close to being men..either mental or physical maturity

Ever stand beside Jamie Devane or David Broll? They're men.

You have no clue how big the boys in the OHL are, clearly.

Re: U-17 Cornwall July.4-9/12 July 9 2012, 2:40 PM


Ever stand beside Jamie Devane or David Broll? They're men.

You have no clue how big the boys in the OHL are, clearly.


Right....what about the other 250 kids?

Equating size to being a man is interesting.

So a 6'5 160 lb grade 9 kid is a man?

You're a knob.

You generalize by claiming and I qoute "These (smaller) guys outmuscled their bigger counterparts much of the camp!"

Did you watch and record every battle in every game throughout the camp to make your statement above? No, you made assumptions based on your viewings.

Let me guess, your kid is one of the "smaller" players?

If you can't admit the OHL contains alot of men, size, strength, maturity or not your smaller guy is going to be in for a rude awakening come training camp.

Wow.

P.S. Go have a look at a few sample rosters on OHL teams and tell yourself there aren't men playing in that league. Dumbass.

^^^^^^
Survey Says:
Guy is an idiot!
Me thinks he missed the point.

Right back atcha pinhead!

1:40, he had no point - outside of the one on his head.

His point was that they were and are not household names (no disrespect read into it by me).

Unless you do a google search you have no idea if they have managed to move on in pro hockey or not.

That was the point and I got it. Reading comprehension is an awesome skill.

"If you can't admit the OHL contains alot of men, size, strength, maturity or not your smaller guy is going to be in for a rude awakening come training camp."

2:52, I agree. however all UA's have a huge adjustment period regardless of size.

it helps at 16 to have some size for sure, eg ROTY Ekblad, although the speed, conditioning, systems knowledge and experience isn't there needless to say. they get a feel for it by December then almost all of them hit a wall in Feb.

you're right tho, lots of very big boys in the O.

My son is a 96, undrafted but skating with OHL and junior players. He is not small, 6'1" 190lbs. but the maturity physically isn't there yet despite the fact he is working like a fiend in the gym. You can just see it in puck battles, speed of decision making, etc.

I can now see midget hockey is the best move for him to grow and mature more and I would say for the majority of kids.

Good luck to those who play in the OHL next season, but realistically speaking most if not all will only make an impact in the following year.

Many others will realize quickly in camp it is a very tough demanding league physically and mentally for a 16 year old.

"That was the point and I got it. Reading comprehension is an awesome skill."

I'm really glad you got it - you're unique get an N54 gold star.

and we'll give you an even bigger one with an A in the middle for A-hole for the veiled sarcasm.

what a pretentious fuck you are.

You got that! Bravo, well done. Welcome to N54.

why thanks for rolling out the red carpet for me, captain asshole.

You're most welcome Lieutenant Fucktard. LOL

Easy people sticks and stones.

jeez I'm only a Lieutenant? maybe that's a good thing, lol.

although indulge me for a moment, can't the very same post be made in every thread here? perhaps even multiple times in a single thread?

so maybe we should just cut to the chase and say: "the U-17 invites will be in the beer leagues the same as the undrafted kids."

hey why not? it's just as random putting up a list of 2012 NHL undrafted OHL 1st round kids cause the underlying point is the same: let's trivialize a group of kids and any accomplishments they had.

I would have to agree. My 96 is playing with Jr A players right now and you can see a huge difference in their physic and strength on the ice. Even the shorter Jr players are much stronger than the 16 year old. Unless the 16 year old developed early (like 2 years earlier than everyone else) than they just aren't at the same level of strength. Over the past few years, you could see the kids that had matured early had the big advantage in their own age group. Look at the first round picks...a lot of these kids hit puberty two years ago. They are basically two years ahead in strength development than most of the 16 year olds right now that have just hit puberty this year. These are the kids that I could see stepping into the OHL this year and I guess that is what the scouts see. The smaller kids will need to grow and develop and get stronger before they will be ready. Remember, U17 is still the majority of 16 year olds, not 19 and 20 year olds.

watch the NHL combines

"big" kids benching 135lbs 9-12 times

and that big kid is going to push NHL size men like one of the Staal brothers around

actually its 150 and most of then push it around 11-15x

It truly was great hockey all week. Talented players, quick, fast, it was great to see this level of hockey. All the best to all (smaller and bigger) on reaching their goals. I was overly impressed with the quality of passing on all teams.

Who were the top goalies?

Now do they narrow down the list to a top, say, 40 that they watch until December?

6:09am You're not too bright are you?

There will be significant differences in size/strength/speed for those minor midgets breaking into the OHL. Same thing for graduating OHLers into the NHL. It all takes time physically.

Btw, the bench press is not a great predictor for hockey strength tests anyway. The prevailing direction is total functional body strength, particularly from the waist down. If they had squat tests, you might be able to say something. Bench press is more indicative of strength for a sport like football.

I honestly didn't think people were truly this naiive. My bad.

The BP is just one of the tests used at the combine. Part of the overall fintness testing. Not a hockey move as you say but still could be a factor in some bubble players. Points to stength and future potential

How did the undrafted player from Barrie look?

Who was that?

Team Black
20
James
MenseDietrich
RW
5'10
165
Barrie Colts
OMHA

Great dad

No doubt one of the Barrie glass bangers? Was he banging the glass in Cornwall too?

:'(

didn't look good . reason why he went undrafted

After the first 5 rounds the draft is a joke

give it a rest.

sounds like your looser son didnt get drafted

Good one, this is how "loser" is spelled fucknuts lol

5:49
So sudburys pick in the 3rd good right??????????

Reality is that there will be lots of kids who wash out from first 5 rounds as well. Some will develop from the lower rounds. History does not lie, happens every year.

Enjoy the ride!

I thought he looked out of place,just my opinion and I know when we played Barrie during the year he didn't shine what so ever.But I guess he must of looked good at the Oshawa camp in order for him to move on to Cornwall.

Heard they are not picking the team until first week of Dec. is this true? Many things will have changed by then.,

They will end up picking whoever is playing the best at the time, first dibs to those in the O.

Exactly!

Not with this age group, but just curious for future reference, of the 20 ohl first rounders, "approximately" how many of them actually/should make the Ontario U17 team or about how many will not make it? based on previous years ,etc... I mean, a team has approx. 20 players, and there are 20 first rounders... it must be pretty tough to crack the lineup if you're not one of the first rounders.... Thanks for the heads up

Americans also made up some of the first rounders.

Don't forget that not every first rounder "shines" in their first year. Last year David PErklin had a real tough rookie season and was not chosen to the U17's.

Those that shine the brightest as 16 year old rookies will comprise this team, 1st, 2nd or 10 rounder!

Btw, in the past kids like Robert Polessello (alternate) and Daniel Altshuller have also made the team despite playing as 16 year olds in the OPJHL.

The 96 year was deep. There will be 40+ players who play significant ice in the O this year. Team will be made up of the best of those. No O = no chance this year.

Says you. There are ALWAYS surprises, positive and negative.

That is the nature of dealing with 16 year old teenagers, they all mature differently and every situation is not right for everyone.

There will be surprises this year too. But all will come from the O. There are teams who have signed 3 and 4 players each. No way tier 2 players make the team.

That's what they said when Altshuller was picked as goalie and Pollesello as alternate. We'll see.

Great accomplishment for any players not drafted in the first 2 rounds to get on the '40- watch' that will be published shortly. It is a very deep year. Many of the 80 players in Cornwall were drafted after the 5th round and some not drafted at all.

biggest issue is in goal, only 2 16 yr olds will be in the O next year RH and LH

neither were at U17 camp - problem is how much playing time will both of these guys get? Not much as a rookie, so should U17 take a or 2 16 yr old goalies from tier 2 or Jr B or even Midget AAA?

Now you're starting to get it.....

Being signed by an OHL team and actually getting minutes are two different things. Check out who one of the four (CB) signed by Sudbury is related to and then you will start to realize anything is and will be possible.

The 96 year was not a deep draft, that must have been a daddy comment ^^^^^^^

All scouts I spoke to this past season contradict your assertion. The draft was very deep, save for high-end defencemen.

As with all of these things, we will only really know in a few years with the NHL draft and then a few years after that in terms of how many of these kids actually turn pro.

95 was very weak. How many non O players made that team?

97 according to various scouting circles is being referred to as a powderpuff year ... I assume they mean the 97s lack size and any toughness to go anywhere beyond Midget hockey.

Try the MBHL

1 last year.

there are usually 1 or 2 non-O players selected depending on how many have elected an NCAA path.

here's some U-17 stats I posted when this discussion came up before.

Year ..... # of non-OHL players ..... # of 1st rnd players (on the 22 man roster)
2012 ..... 1 ..... 18
2011 ..... 2 ..... 15
2010 ..... 2 ..... 18
2009 ..... 0 ..... 16
2008 ..... 2 ..... 13
2007 ..... 2 ..... 11
2006 ..... 3 ..... 12

the camps are important, however the rubber will really meet the road with exhibition games beginning Aug 31, then the reg season on Sep 20. so there's 10 critical weeks before the team is announced in mid November.

Assuming all the non-OHL kids were playing Tier 2 and no midget players selected. Can't imagine that.

you can't imagine what exactly?

That a midget level player made the U17 team in the past.

I created the 10:37 list.

all the "non-O" kids were either playing in the OPJHL, CCJHL or GOJHL.

no midget kids as the late bloomers are still developing their game and/or developing physically.

Thanks, thought so.

Great to see some non drafted players make it through to the final camp.A couple played pretty well.

So far my Ontario team Would look like this:

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Jeremiah Addison
Damian Bourne Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo
Jared McCann

Michael Cramarossa and Keegan Blasby have looked strong as well.

Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Matthew Watson
Jacob Middleton Kyle Locke
Travis Dermott

Agree with most. Thought Addison looked a little tired at times, and/or uninterested. Mckeown showed great patience with the puck. Locke was good in D end, not so good with the puck outside his end. Others looked good from what I saw.

Were all of the above players drafted? I think so.

yep

Your D better be good in its own end because you do not have any goaltenders you dolt.

Why don't you bless us with your choices between the pipes then dickwad?

Which non drafted players did well?

Jake Evans, Petti, Amadio, Macdonald, Wood, Salituro all looked good also, better then some names above.

problem with your names above, 75% of them are not team players, too many individuals, all top players in draft will not be taken.

coaching staff will have role players before individual players.

Your list above will be 50% correct, mark it

bottom line is you need to show hockey ontario you are a team player

I thought names was against the rules?

Not at this level besides its all over the web and in the newpapers. Are you going to cry to them too?

Anyone know the top 35 players to watch? I know there's a list.. Just not realesed to the public

8:16 a.m. Took me a while to figure out who R.H. was. Other initials are obvious to everyone. Is this the same R.H. that was in Boston last week and couldn't win a game (in fact lost the last one that was a tie when he went in ). Putting him in the same category as L.H. , DADDY, is a little ridiculous. Let's get real !! Not even close. I understand he was not even the number one on midget team past season. Just because you know someone on Sting that does you a favour, I would keep my mouth shut so I didn't end up with egg on my face, like last week's results. Just a little advice. A little too cocky I would say !!!

8:16 a.m. Took me a while to figure out who R.H. was. Other initials are obvious to everyone. Is this the same R.H. that was in Boston last week and couldn't win a game (in fact lost the last one that was a tie when he went in ). Putting him in the same category as L.H. , DADDY, is a little ridiculous. Let's get real !! Not even close. I understand he was not even the number one on midget team past season. Just because you know someone on Sting that does you a favour, I would keep my mouth shut so I didn't end up with egg on my face, like last week's results. Just a little advice. A little too cocky I would say !!!

3:05 top forward missing BH ;

I think the list is bang on. and yes the D are good enough.

How did Wolves first rounder CC look?

a few comments here.

I believe RH is the best goalie in the Alliance, he was screwed at the Alliance camp, RH will be in sarnia next season as the #2 goalie.

RH was the #1 goalie in Kitchener last year.

As for defense I did not like M Watson or the last guy mentioned. You need to add guys like peters and Wood to the mix, both played very well, both could be in the OHL in Sept.

Oh and yes BH and his mother looked good in Cornwall...

Yeah OK but who cares. Nor RH or LH performed well enough to be in Cornwall so why not talk about the goalies that made the cut and how they did. Them the breaks man.

I know it's a steep uphill climb, but how did CM from Ham Bulldogs look???

So far my Ontario team Would look like this:

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Brook Hiddink
Jared McCann Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo



Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna
Jacob Middleton Kyle Locke
Travis Dermott

So far my Ontario team Would look like this:

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Brook Hiddink
Jared McCann Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo



Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna
Jacob Middleton Kyle Locke
Travis Dermott


Take out Locke, insert Duchesne.
Take out Lindo, insert MacDonald
Book it.

As stated numerous times previously, the first two months of the season will dictate much!

Response to 9:56
Murphy looked really good all weekend and scored a couple of nice goals. He showed good speed and was more physical than I saw him play last year. A Little small for what I like as a player but fun too watch . May be a good AP player for team but won't crack the line up with the talent that is there .

Apparently family is talking to Harvard re NCAA, even money he never plays in the OHL anyway.

Given his size and academic standing, perfect fit!

He needs to really work on his strength and shot, other than that he outplayed a lot of 2nd and 3rd rounders.
When he starts putting on weight he will be a very good player.

Longer development curve that's all. Like many players.

too many individuals on your list

would not surprise me one bit that JHS will not make the team.

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Brook Hiddink
Jared McCann Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo

So who is the checking line?
But most important who goes in the corner and gets the puck??????????????????

Good teams are build from the net out something you genuises are forgetting when taking stabs at your dream teams. Based on what I saw, I take Taylor and Singh. No two goalies compete more. That's what you want. Then roll the dice on the rest of the selections as the talent level is that good.

BM had a good week but then blew a big lead in the gold medal game.
MM on White was solid but not tested as much as MS. MS was good

At the end of the day, I'd take MS and CH

What happened to the top goalie pick from the Rebels. Was he not there?

Let's not forget about LH, although he has knee problems
Missed this week due to injury

LH is overrated imo
Should be between CH, BM and MS...maybe RB

Hackett, Singh and Moran are my top 3
Mancina and Brown should not be overlooked though

11:50am Exactly! All the hockey geniuses have no freaking clue.

I will ask again

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Brook Hiddink
Jared McCann Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo

So who is the checking line?
But most important who goes in the corner and gets the puck at both ends of the ice????

Please ask once more. Maybe 3x lucky.

JHS Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Brook Hiddink MDC Eric Cornel
Checking Line:
Owen McDonald Dante Salituro Amadio


Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Travis Dermott
Jacob Middleton John Duchesne

Likely add Cummins as the 7th D man

Jared McCann is 4 x the player than more than a few on that list.

It takes 4 lines (13 forwards), 8 D-men and 3 goalies to make a full team for the U17's!

Thanks for that.

JHS Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Brook Hiddink MDC Eric Cornel
Checking Line:
Owen McDonald Dante Salituro Amadio
13th: McCann


Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Travis Dermott
Jacob Middleton John Duchesne
Cummins Sanvido

Ok, are we in agreement now? McCann a very skilled player, but didnt seem to have a great camp in my opinion.

Hackett, Singh and Taylor in net

JHS Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Brook Hiddink MDC Eric Cornel
Checking Line:
Owen McDonald Dante Salituro Amadio
13th: McCann


Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Travis Dermott
Jacob Middleton John Duchesne
Cummins Sanvido

Ok, are we in agreement now? McCann a very skilled player, but didnt seem to have a great camp in my opinion.

Hackett, Singh and Taylor in net

Will they offer a spot to Herbst if he is healthy? Is that fair to the goalies who have been healthy?

Hackett, Taylor and Singh. Moran too inconsistent.

Hackett and Singh agreed
It's a wash between Taylor and Moran

The only goalie picked in the 1st round was Herbst. Assuming he is healthy, he'll be one of them just like Spencer Martin was last year playing minimum minutes for St.Mikes.

Bank on it.

Was LH injured or did not make it past the GTHL camp?

Knee injury.

No doubt all the bleeding hearts will jump in that that's not fair. Hey, get used to it....from here on in it is all about who the powers that be believe is the best at each position at the time.

Lots of eventual superstars were passed over for the U20 team and they have done alright. See Tyler Seguin.

"Was LH injured or did not make it past the GTHL camp?"


LH didn't make it out of the GTHL camp. He wasn't injured at that point,...beyond the third degree burns on his neck. He was, to be kind, less than average in Toronto.
Would be amazed to see him get even minimal minutes with the Knights. His style will get exposed at the next level.

Says you.

That's why smart junior hockey operators like the Hunter's took him with their 1st pick in the opening round.

Isn't it time the jealousy ends already?

All due respect but I would still take the other three ahead of him were it my team. Problem is it isn't and it might just boil down to playing time in the O which he is likely to have more of than the other three.

With all these kids, time will tell.

My bet is on the braintrust with the reighning OHL London Knights management group, ahead of all the N54 geniuses! LOL

Are the scouts only going to watch the kids who are in the OHL?

I'd like to know where you team pickers are getting your information. Were you at the camp?

When was the last time a 9th rd pick made this team? What about some d-men who could skate?

To all players - if you attended the camp and were not a 1st or 2nd round pick, drop out! According to some, a 9th round pick could never make this team. What a complete idiot.

To all players - if you attended the camp and were not a 1st or 2nd round pick, drop out! According to some, a 9th round pick could never make this team. What a complete idiot.

July 13 2012, 4:11 PM
Ok Mrs Herbst.

Here is last years U17 team...

All played in the OHL... Camp means dick, if the player makes his OHL team he will be considered.
1 Jordan Dekort L 6'4 185 08/08/1995 Markham, Ont. LaSalle (GOJHL)
31 Spencer Martin L 6'2 190 09/06/1995 Oakville, Ont. Mississauga St. Michael's (OHL)
Defense
2 Darnell Nurse L 6'4 180 04/02/1995 Hamilton, Ont. Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
3 Chris Bigras L 6'0 176 22/02/1995 Elmvale, Ont. Owen Sound (OHL)
4 Jordan Subban R 5'9 170 03/03/1995 Toronto, Ont. Belleville (OHL)
5 Aaron Ekblad R 6'3 207 07/02/1996 Belle River, Ont. Barrie (OHL)
6 Trevor Murphy L 5'10 156 17/07/1995 Windsor, Ont. Peterborough (OHL)
7 Alex Yuill L 5'8 160 27/05/1995 Wellington, Ont. Barrie (OHL)
8 Adam Bateman R 5'10 180 05/01/1995 Caledon, Ont. Windsor (OHL)
Forwards
9 Brandon Robinson L 6'2 195 13/10/1995 Pickering, Ont. Brampton (OHL)
10 Stephen Harper L 6'1 195 25/03/1995 Burlington, Ont. Erie (OHL)
11 Bo Horvat L 6'0 198 05/04/1995 Rodney, Ont. London (OHL)
12 Hunter Garlent R 5'8 142 04/02/1995 Grimsby, Ont. Guelph (OHL)
14 Nick Baptiste R 6'2 190 04/08/1995 Ottawa, Ont. Sudbury (OHL)
15 Jordan Maletta R 6'3 201 30/04/1995 St. Catharines, Ont. Windsor (OHL)
16 Max Domi L 5'10 184 02/03/1995 Toronto, Ont. London (OHL)
17 Ryan Kujawinski L 6'2 195 30/03/1995 Iroquois Falls, Ont. Sarnia (OHL)
18 Brent Pedersen L 6'1 197 05/07/1995 Arthur, Ont. Kitchener (OHL)
19 Cole Cassels R 6'0 165 04/05/1995 Columbus, OH Oshawa (OHL)
20 Nicholas Ritchie L 6'2 207 05/12/1995 Orangeville, Ont. Peterborough (OHL)
21 Stephen Nosad R 5'11 173 25/01/1995 Markham, Ont. Peterborough (OHL)
22 Mitchell Dempsey L 6'3 210 27/02/1995 Cambridge, Ont. Plymouth (OHL)

Goaltender Dekort played Jr. B ("GOJHL")

If u know the London Knights they have usually 10 goalies on hand and LH will be lucky to see any minutes he will be shuffled around jr B and jr D unless he proves himself. The Knights just said last week they'll be looking to trade for a #1 goalie ... So obviously none in the stable are ready and LH is also having injury issues just from practice time.

Even the Hunters dont know who will be starting in September. LH might get an exh game or backup duty, but if he doesnt step up he will be stepped out. That's just the reality in the OHL.

You just hit the nail on the head.

Also, my picks for goalie:

Hackett
Singh

thats because only one 95 goalie played in the O last season. They had to take 2.
I think that list says alot about the process, and what parents think little jonhnies chances are, especially if he isn't on his OHL squad next season.

10:30pm Your jealousy is sad, especially now that the kids are moving on from minor hockey.

11:57. The writer at 10:20 is not jealous. They are a realist.

Talking about goalies (and players too), if anyone thinks they will take a non drafted goalie over any of the drafted goalies for the u17 final team, they are living in a dreamers world.

Enjoy the ride as in December, it will end.

The three best skating d man there were rm, mw, mh. You would have to think two of the three would be there in the end regardless of if they are in the o or not.

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Keegan Blasby

Checking line: Jared McCann Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo
13th Forward: Jeremiah Addison

Also Liked: Trent Mallette, Dante Salituro, Michael Cramarossa, Owen Macdonald, James Mense-Dietrich

Roland Mckeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Matthew Watson
Jacob Middleton Jon Duchesne
Patrick Sanvido Travis Dermott

Cameron Hackett
Mark Singh
Brent Moran

All my picks are based on what i saw at camp and not what i saw all year. These are the guys that i thought performed the best at this particular camp not who i thought would be better players down the road. That is what the draft is for. I want ontario to be comprised of the best 96's with McDavid '95 in the momement and not picked on potential. THat is what some people don't seem to be getting. Draft looks at potential and u17 scouts look for where there at in the moment.

Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion.

Sam Bennett Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Josh Ho-Sang Michael Dal Colle Keegan Blasby

Checking line: Jared McCann Eric Cornel Jaden Lindo
13th Forward: Jeremiah Addison

Also Liked: Trent Mallette, Dante Salituro, Michael Cramarossa, Owen Macdonald, James Mense-Dietrich

Roland Mckeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Matthew Watson
Jacob Middleton Jon Duchesne
Patrick Sanvido Travis Dermott

Cameron Hackett
Mark Singh
Brent Moran


List looks good. Some players may have been injured last season limiting time on the ice. Some players played on a line which enabled them to look better than they actually were. Whether a kid is drafted in the 9th round, 14th round or not drafted doesnt matter. Best of luck to all including the kids drafted late. I am sure that with politics in hockey, the only players on the team will be the ohl players--for the most part. It was a great few games of hockey.

Checking line: Jared McCann Eric Cornel
MAAHHHAAAAAA

JHS Connor McDavid Spencer Watson
Brendan Perlini Robert Fabbri Andrew Abou-Assaly
Brook Hiddink MDC Eric Cornel
Checking Line:
Owen McDonald Dante Salituro Amadio
13th: McCann


Roland McKeown Kevin Spinozzi
Dylan Diperna Travis Dermott
Jacob Middleton John Duchesne
Cummins Sanvido

Nothing is guaranteed outside of minor hockey ... Money and friends will never get u a spot in the O or U17. Even the team owner's kids dont get a spot given to them. Being drafted gets you an opportunity and nothing more. These kids are young men now and are only a product or commodity. How these young men deal with pressure, adversity and change is what decides who sticks in the world of junior hockey at any level.

If a non drafted player or goalie is liked for the above reasons and performs well in the team setting they will get picked. If not they just have take the next opportunity that presents itself. A drafted player that shows any signs of entitlement will be dropped faster a ton of bricks.

Then remove 80% of the picks..probably 50% of GTHL kids

McCann will be on one of the top 2 lines for U17 ... That is fact and any of the G daddies making these mock lists that think otherwise are not thinking reality.

8:35 based on year and potential he is top two lines. Based on u 17 camp he was behind top centres and could not find anyone to gel with on u17 top team, based on that and in the moment he will have to take a checking roll if team were picked at camp and not in november.

Based on watching almost every U17 Cornwall game (except when Orange lost to White and the team was ripped by the U17 coach in the dressing room) I would say these players will be looked at seriously;

McDavid Fabbri Perlini
Ho-Sang Dal Colle Hiddink
McCann Cornel Lindo
Abou-Assaly Bennett Watson

O MacDonald Bourne Murphy MacIntyre


McKeown DeSousa
Middleton DiPerna
Locke Spinozzi

Dermott Cummins Peters

Not every player is a superstar and time in the O will tell but tired of seeing someone post their list 15 times with the same names.

camp means nothing....you may see kids get picked not at the camp. Too many superstars don't make a winning team. Role players will be picked....so time will tell. No need for anymore lists they are useless.

The ONLY reason anyone comes on these sites is to see lists. Why bother otherwise. These kids are on every hockey website, forum, blog, local newspaper and TV station. This aint' minor hockey no more!!

Adding to the above list; Rancine, Renaud, Salituro, Addison (Petti who wasn't there)
Duschene, Garcia

Hackett, Taylor, Mancino were consistently good

Should be close to a top 40.

Murphy would fit into the checking role really well , great team player/leader and would have no probllem or attitude accepting this role. Agreed though that he would have to play in the "O" this year to get any kind of consideration and I don't really see that happening.

Agree to the above post but all players at this level would be accepting of an y role on the team and most are team leaders.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the add on players as injuries and year play become a role at the selection time. Good lucck to all.

were any of you dads at the camp? some of these are way off..

No offense but 5'9 155 on a checking line????
Just a reminder its not minor midget anymore

you dumb a$$ dads get your heads out of your a$$. How your kid did at camp means nothing. Like someone pointed out earlier if your son doesn't make his O team and wasn't a first rounder he ain't making it. Thanks for coming out and hoped you enjoyed Cornwall.

yeee dats my nigga tellin it like it is.. talkin' bout 9th rounders makin it n sheit... smh. wake up bud.

I'd like to see things from yalls 'point of view' but I can't seem to get my head that far up my sons ass.

Whether its late blooming players, poor scouting, or sense of entitlement to earlier drafted players, whether 9th or 10th round pick, nice to see some picks are done without pre-conceived notion.
They likley wont make the u17 team, but they are good players.

8:01pm You mean like Marchand on Boston?!? LOL Dumbass!

U17 is a long way from Boston NHL idiot

yes

many players look good in the camps whether drafted or not however once the threat of violence comes along ie OHL hockey that
is what will seporate which is the reason why they do not pick out of U17 campes.
it really is a "different" game in the O

ok

8:54 Hey moron if a shrimp like Marchand can play a grinding game in the best league in the world against men, then a player like Murphy or any other smaller player can play a fourth line role against other U17's at the Games.

Fucking idiot.

you last comment puts under the 6' mark sorry for that but do not be angry HGH still makes it possible.

what about gianta from new jersey

10:39. From what I heard from people who were there, your list will probably be close to right-on. Virtually all the boys are 1st + 2nd rounders.
Don't forget another thing, this is a cash grab for the OHL. You need the 50-60 extras to build the pot. Remember they start with over 300 whose moms + dads pay several hundred $$$ to attend the first camps. 9th rounders have to make and play on their OHL teams before they have any chance of playing on this team.

Who was the last boy to do this?

Re: U-17 Cornwall July.4-9/12 July 16 2012, 11:48 AM


what about gianta from new jersey


out of the 600 plus players in the NHL how many are his size AND successful?

less than 1%?

all your list are about 75% correct

you will have role players, PP players, PK players, shut down players etc

good luck and yes you do not have to be drafted or playing in the O, some players get missed, some players have huge summers and will open some eyes

If you look at last years OHL draft check out how many 1st rounders didn't make the team.

How did OMHA players Coric and McIntyre look? Both very skilled players of average size.

Scared.

1:10- i believe 3 did not make the team( only 1 goalie in first rnd and next goalie chosen in draft made team)better is all first rnders then 2- 2nd rnders, 1 third rnd player.. but all played in the O
So as pointed out before----