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Completely corrupt MPs ahead in many electorates.

July 6 2012 at 12:00 PM
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Corrupt Peter O'Neill of the NPF fraud; Declared the winner (now I wonder who made the decision to count that fovte first?). Six times more votes than the runner up candidate.


Corrupt William Powi: Ahead! But only 2,000 votes ahead of the runner up at 12,000 votes.

Corrupt Isaac Joseph, the grand thief of SHP: Ahead but not by much - at 8,000 votes, only 1,000 votes ahead of the runnerup. Hope his vote buying campaign will end up working.

Corrupt Francis Potape: Ahead, but only 1,00o votes ahead of the runner up at 5,000 votes. Hope the brivery of electoral officials works as planned.

Corrupt James Marape whose various stealings of public fund were well documented on pngblogs.com over a year ago: Ahead, twice as many votes (at 10,000) to the runnerup.

Corrupt Don Polye, instant millionaire and bloated pig thanx to public stealing: Ahead! but more than twice as much as the runner up, but only 1,000 votes have been counted.


The only two certifiably corrupt candidates who are losing at the moment are the Utterly Corrupt and Most Dishonourable Anderson Agiru and the Completely Corrupt Drunkard Philemon Embel. Possibly Agiru has been outcorrupted in the vote count by opponents.... or at least so far. Our Agiru, however, is only behind 1,000 votes from the leader who currently has 18,000 votes. Embel, on the other hand is currently in 4th place but that's still only 2,000 votes behind the leader who has 4,500 votes.

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Nationalist

Re: Completely corrupt MPs ahead in many electorates.

July 6 2012, 12:13 PM 


Thanks very much reporter for your vital and timely information. We would prefer you cocntinue to update us on this forum.

Thanks and take care.


Nationalist

 
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png oreo for life

Re: Completely corrupt MPs ahead in many electorates.

July 7 2012, 9:37 PM 

Go Somare! Kick some o'neil trash! O'neil is a lowlife!

 
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Konfus Mangi

Re: Completely corrupt MPs ahead in many electorates.

July 7 2012, 10:56 PM 

How much more evidence will it take to convince you that both sides are equally corrupt and that most of Somare's former ministers are now part of the O'Neill government. I mean, its not like this is calculus or advanced physics to figure out. Why are people like you so unable to step back and see the big picture?

 
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png oreo for life

Re: Completely corrupt MPs ahead in many electorates.

July 7 2012, 11:18 PM 

Look! I don't care if its o'neil! We want somare back! Go somare! Things were better with the old guy, at least he didn't come up with unrealistic goals like free education- what a complete joke!

 
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Nationalist

Not free handout policy but should empower people to make money on their land

July 9 2012, 8:53 AM 


As I have said earlier. There is nothing free of charge on this planet. O'Neil-Nemah's free health or education policy is a political gymmicks to lure the attention of the voters of Papua New Guinea.

The truth hurts in such a time like now and in needs. Infact, O'Neil Nemah government is dictated by someone at the back........old cronies of the political games.

Infact, that two free hand out policy is a lazy man's policy and will never and ever work out well right.

The free health care, is really lovable because there is alot of costs involved according to the different processes and costs incurred in managing the health facility or the health system in the country. Peter Oneil and Nemah do not know how to manage and provide a quality health services in this country. They are unrealistic in introducing free health care services. "Displa kain policy bai bagarapim health services na system lo country lon bihain taim". Em policy blo ol self-claimed leaders nogat gutpla na longpla tintin.

Free education. It is also a poolish and lazy man's policy. It is unsustainable in the next 3 to 5 years or in the near future. " Displa kain policy tu em policy blo ol longlong leaders, ol no save gud lon consequences lon bihain" These leaders are foolish.

Free edcuation policy will spoil the future of our children and is unsustainable.

PNG need new government who has the vision to empower the people to tilt the land make money from the soil. Not free hands out coming from to be leaders on the streets. These are not attributes of good and wise leaders.

We need a government that will provide subsidies to rural farmers to cultivate their land and then sale their produce at market to earn money and pay school fees or for their own living.

What the new government need to do is to empower community to tap into agricultre and while people are busy with their land. The government has to secure markets overseas or within the country.

The government has to build effective road networks to all the districts so that the village farmers will access to better roads and transport their produce to the nearest markets.

The government has to establish local markets for the local community to sale their produce. Those farmers who produce crops at large scale need to be sold in bags and mass production to mining companies and oversease.

For instance, lets look at the GOROKA MARKET. The market need to be upgraded to a well organized and regulated market like the one in Western Highlands Province.

I see that the leaders in Goroka are bounce of fools. Even the Mal Smith, doesn't know the needs of the Goroka and Eastern highlands People of Papua New Guinea. He is here to exploit the resources and land of the EH People leaving nothing tangible for the people and the future generation.

Therefore, we need good leadership in this country plus a good leader for estern highlands.

So when we discuss issues of national importance, we don't have to narrow our thinking within the confinements of our village or electorate or particular settings.

We must have open might and be able to argue on them and then provide our rationals or reasons why we say this and that. Finally, we have to make a good recommendation on our arguements.


Thank you.

nationalist

 
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moho

Corruption

July 9 2012, 10:15 AM 

Corruption is an accepted way of life amomg all Melanesians. In what context are we interpreting the misappripriation of public funds????? If we are viewing the giving of money here and there through Western eyes, then, that is corruption. However, if you view it through a Melanesain's eyes, that is quite acceptable.

Which way Melanesians?

 
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SP

Free Education

July 9 2012, 10:41 AM 


Folks - just one correction...Free Education can be seen as an election gimmick given the timing it was announced and delivered.
However, there are some countries that do have free education atleast. They do pride in their human resources development.

You never know, the small child with one parent who would not have afforded to access basic education would one day become someone. If you are looking at one side of the coin where you are from a family who can afford everything in this erra where living standards are forever increasing, then you can say Free Education promotes laziness.

If only you could feel the joy our subsistence based parents felt this year, then you would understand.
Look at Fiji for instance - all government schools have free education except for builidng (project fees) and uniforms which the mothers themselves sew or but cheaply from the flea markets.
Even the buses are free for school children, yet they do not have billion-dollar resources we boast so much of.

As a result, this tiny island nation produces quality human resources that go out of their country, work in foreign countries and send the money back to their country thus boosting their economy to some extent.

We always think of the negative side of things rather than exporing the positive results and build more from there. The more negative we become, the more stagnant or backward we remain...I am not a supporter of either Somare or O'Neill-Namah but I have seen some improvement in the current regime.
I do not think it would be wise for Somare to engage in national politics any more. As you can see his time is over. It would be fitting for him to return as ESP Governor and announce his resignation and rest for his remaining years.


 
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png oreo for life

Re: Free Education

July 9 2012, 12:50 PM 

Yeah, but in the bible it says a lazy man is a wicked man,, and it also says that man has to work to eat,,, so in that sense when we are using free education to fund some lazy scum we are putting the burden on the tax payers, the working class, upper middle class and the wealthy. In png's scenario let's be real,,, the low minimum income wage earners are NOT the ones footing the bill, that's why everytime I hear the settlement trashes complaining about everything, I say the hell with you,,, we pay huge tax to receive goods and services that was allegedly said to help us,,, you are not tax payers so go to hell you scum bags,,,

 
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SP

Re: Free Education

July 9 2012, 1:09 PM 

png oreo for life - you are correct especially the reference made to the Proverbs.
However, lets face the fact that 'everyone' pays taxes throught salary, GST on consumables etc. Either it be a settlement dweller, high well-to do class, middle and average wage earners, business people, ordinary subsistence farmers - you name it. So correction - you are note 'footing the bill' alone in this.

On the other side of the coin, see realitiy in life through a different perspective...poverty is for real. 85% of rural dwellers cannot afford the ever increasing secondary and tuition school fees. As mentioned above, it was a 'RELIEF' for the have-nots this year. It seemed as a heavy burden was lifted off the shoulders of the 85% of PNG citizens.

If you do have relatives living in the village, try discuss this with them and hear what they say...we have to face reality here. people are poor, semi or uneducated population is on the rise because they cannot afford school fees due to circumstances beyond their control. They could have gone to school and become the next top line doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers etc.
An educated population is what we need to move this nation forward. Peter Ipatas has realised that and atleast he is seeing some progress thus far.

If other countries can have a higher literacy rate than us, why cant we face teh fact and educate every child? Is that too hard an ask? I personally applaud O'Neill and Namah for taking this seriously and will support this all the way if it is to become a law in the new future if God willing.


 
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png oreo for life

Re: Free Education

July 10 2012, 7:54 AM 

Also note: our poverty is nothing compared to Africa, at least our citizens have an abundance in food to survive on, its only the financial aspects that is an issue

 
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Nationalist

NEW LEADERS SHOULD CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO

July 10 2012, 8:39 AM 

O'Neil-Nemah Government and those to be and aspiring leaders have poisoned the minds of our people through their free handout policy which dipicts the lazyman's policy.

There is nothing free of charge on this planet. O'Neil-Nemah's free health or education policy is a political gymmicks to lure the attention of the voters of Papua New Guinea.

Truly, the truth hurts because O’Neil-Nemah government is so cunning to introduce that unworkable policy in such a time when people are in dare need of financial assistance for their children’s education. Infact, O'Neil Nemah government is dictated by someone at the back....some very experienced old cronies of the common political games.

Infact, that two different free hand out policies are a lazy man's policy and will never and ever work out well right in our country. Both policies are unmanageable because there are mammoth tasks involved in providing and sustaining the two different public services.

The free health care service is really lovable. Implementing and monitoring an effective health care is not that easy. It is very easy to make announcement of such and such but the turth is that there are a alot of costs involved in ensuring that cost-effective and quality basic health care is provided to the population.

There are a different processes and stages involved in managing a health particular health facility and to manage the entire health services of the nation is s mammoth task. Financial support is always expected to be made available on time to ensure that delivery and provision of health services flow smoothly.

And having the different stages in the health services delivery, there are high costs in each of the stage. For instance, if funds are not made available on time, then the processes come to a stand still that would affect the service delivery. Bear in mind that we are dealing with the lives of people and with a stoppage in the processes means we expecting to loose lives.

When we are still facing complication in providing the basic health care to the rural population who are with run down health facilities or even most with dysfunctional facilities, then it would be impracticable in managing the one particular health facility and the entire health care delivery system in the country would be more complex.

Peter Oneil and Nemah do not know how to manage and provide a quality health services in this country. They politicized the most two important public services becaue they show the opportunity to use as a poltical gymmick.

The two leaders are unrealistic in introducing free health care services. "Displa kain policy bai bagarapim health services na system lo country lon bihain taim". Em policy blo ol self-claimed leaders nogat gutpla na longpla tintin.

Free education. It is also a poolish and lazy man's policy. It is unsustainable in the next 3 to 5 years or even in the near future. " Displa kain policy tu em policy blo ol longlong leaders, ol no save gud lon consequences lon bihain" These leaders are foolish.

Free edcuation policy will give false assumption to the parents and children that the government will provide education free of such. That is not true. The policy will spoil the study of our children because the government funds are not deposited on quarterly basis and that will create hiccups thus disturbing the study period of our children.

PNG need new government who has the vision firstly to empower the people to tilt the land to make money. The lazy man’s policy will demean the creative power of people to become creative and fend for themselves. The people will expect the government to provide them free hand outs and will move away from their land to create wealth.

We need a government that will provide subsidies to assist rural farmers to cultivate their land for farming. Agriculture is the backbone of most of the rural population in the country. And even those living in urban areas and towns still rely their livlihood on garden produce.

The new government should develop effective road networls connecting the rural places to the nearby markets at districts and urban areas. This will ensure the rural producers to transport their produce to the nearest markets to sale.

Next the government has to look at establishing local markets where the rural farmers can sale their produce. The leaders have to develop propper and well regulated local markets in each of the districts. Now the people will have the avenue to continue earn revenue from the sales of agricultural produce. In that way, the people will have money to pay for their children’s school fees and improve their living standards.

And thirdly, the government need to provide more funds into the financial institutions like Micro-finance, NDB to facilitate small scheme business loans to support the rural people to access financial assistance when needed.

These are the three most critical government services that will help and empower community to tap into agricultre to sustain their livelihood.

For instance, lets look at the Goroka Local Market. The market is full of many garden produce food. All these garden produce food need to be stored and well regulated by a committee and thus markets be upraded to a standard like one at Mt. Hagen in Western Highlands Province.

I see that the leaders of Eastern Highlands are blind or just ignorant. Even our current governor Mal Smith, doesn't know the needs of the Goroka and Eastern Highlands People of Papua New Guinea. He seems to be preying and exploring the resources and land of the EH People doing nothing tangible for the people and the future generation.

Therefore, we critically need a change in leadership not only in Eastern Highlands Province but for the entire country as a whole.

It is then important to have open mind when discussing issues of national importance, rahter than thinking within the confinements of our understanding in our small world.

In our arguments, we need to substantiate our points with ationals or reasons why we say this or that. Or why we disagree with this or that.

Finally, we have to make set of appropriate recommendations on our observations and arguements.


Thank you.

nationalist


 
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Underlying Truth

Re: NEW LEADERS SHOULD CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO

July 10 2012, 8:50 AM 

Most thinking people (of which most who post on pngscape various politics boards are NOT) would agree with you. All these 'free' things are political gimmicks that in the end will cost us dearly. But the majority of people are sheep who can't think for themselves and can't figure this out.

Let's not worry about the sheep. All they do is follow the leaders and the leaders are NOT our politicians but the supposedly (but probably not) educated elites of our population who fill the top positions in our country and are supposedly (but probably not) well informed.

The problem is that the thinking people never realise that you can't have change without action, and you can't have action without sufficient motivation.

The 'elite' of this country have virtually no motivation at all to take any kind of action other than whinge or groan. Neither action to change the leadership (apart from voting and campaigning which we now see from this election is basically meaningless because of incredible voting fraud) nor action to speak up against free education nor action against corruption. etc.

Thus, the real question here - to your issue and so many other issues put on these boards - is WHY NO MOTIVATION and WHAT MECHANISMS WOULD ACTUALLY INSPIRE THE ELITE TO TAKE ACTION?

Until those fundamental issues are addressed, even postings such as your own, full of fact and logic, will result in ZERO change.

Think about it.

 
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Anonymous

Re: NEW LEADERS SHOULD CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO

July 10 2012, 9:57 AM 

Hi Underlying Truth,

you are correct. I agree with you as well.

Change! Not just ordinary change but the long term change of the mindset of people. The way in which people think about situations, move and do things, perceve and value leadership and development in our families, LLGs, districts, province and country is what change is all about in PNG context. That is the real change that will redirect the course of the nation.

Many in Papua New Guinea are talking about change everyway. And some scholars and well educated people are pursuing more and mores studies to bring about change. Others like religious leaders are imaging and visualizing about change to be in the future.

However, despite all the hype of good leadership and change that many spell out and talk about, the opposite results are on the other side of the scenerio.

To be true, theres no leader in PNG. Meaning, a leader would be someone who would quickly capture the visions, aspirations and dreams of the rural communities, the middle class people, the elites and the well off people. Simply, a leader is a solution to the problems we are facing in our communities, districts, towns and cities.

Theres no one as I see, who could change the mindset and behavior of the young men and women whom we termed them as drunkard bodies on the streets of POM, Hagen, Lae, etc.

A leader could have the right word to give to these young men and women involved in illegal activities to change their behaviour for the better. There is no leader who could change them. These young people who are unemployed and resort to all kinds of activities tell us that there is a problem.

A single word from a leader could be sure enough to touch their hearts to change their lives from drugs, humbrew and other illegal activities and turn into meaningful and life changing lives.

There is no leader who can capture the dreams and visions of all the intellectuals we train them from the different universities we have in PNG. They have used resources, time and effort to study and are now equiped with the knowledge and skills to contribute meaningfully in nation building. They are being used as second class degree holders by foreigners.

Because there is no leaders at the university and tertiary institutions to empower and motivate the university students to become good leaders and solution to their community, districts, province and the nation as a whole.

Theres no leader who could put himself or herself in the shoe of the poor and disadvantaged mothers and young pregnant women who die every year in geographically isolated places like the Mt. Bosave in the Hela Province, The Akahaves in the Madang province and others due to the lack of basic health services.

There is no leader who could be as a solution by the way he talks and approach the people, the foreigners, developers, by the way he treat the people, by the way he handle challenging issues should shed lights and hope into the hearts and minds of the most disadvanged population in the country.

I see most leaders of today are duplicates,simply fake leaders, photocopied ones, theres no substance and value in them. Theres heardly none.

Anyway, theres alot of things that make up good leaders which we should continue to talk about but we have limited time to do so. What I am touching is just the tip of the ice berg.

Finally, I just want to leave a statement as the title of this posting summaries all.

"PNG is indeed the island of gold and silver floating on the sea of oil powered by gas. Given this fact, the people,community, district are poverty striken and the country PNG still remain poor and dry because there is no leader who knows his people, land and resources. They are all fake leaders so could hardly see the reality of our nation, people and resources".

To sum up, I beleive that PNG doesn't need all the 109 members or more or less to be the agent for change. The change that PNG rightfull needs.

One particular person, whether be an aspiring leader, an MP, or a scholar, or an ordinary person can be the change agent.

That particular person can be born at the right time, with the right mindse, who could do the right thing for the right reasons and for the right people, district, province and theright nation.

My opinions may not be practicable in today's situation but history reveals that one person can be change agent to redirect the course of a nation.

And I am optimistic that someone like Joseph in Egypt and Someone like Daniel in Babilon may emerge in PNG.

I welcome rational comments. Some of my statements may not be relevant to what PNG is observing today but they are all my personal opinions. Therefore, you can feel free to provide your own suggestions and recommendations.


Thank you.

Nationalist

 
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skelim pastaim

Re: Corruption

July 22 2012, 12:10 AM 

So long as we have decided to become a nation of tribes rather than tribal mini-nations, we either have to accept the western definition of corruption or find our leaders selling out and destroying the country for the sake of their electorates.

We only have the melanesian choice if we remain all living in small village communities.

 
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lol

Re: Completely corrupt MPs ahead in many electorates.

July 18 2012, 5:07 PM 

"things were better" What a short short memory you have, mate!

 
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Lad

PNG Oreo for Life

July 17 2012, 8:47 PM 

You sound like a ill psychopath. Why tainting people's images. Can you say something critical and constructive that should benefit society than your slow irrational comments. What a waste of your time. Better do something productive than netting unwarranted comments.



cheers Lad

 
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