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The problem with Christianity

December 16 2008 at 9:46 PM
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  (Login Angus_Arbroath)

 
Before I continue, I will tell you that I do believe the Bible and have submitted to the only authority I consider trustworthy: Jesus Christ. That being said...

The problem with "Christianity is that the "Church" got a hold of it.

An example: In the time of Copernicus, the Church threatened anyone with excommunication who would consider the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun. We all know now that Copernicus was right.

Science tells us that the rocks which make up the Terra Firma we call earth, are millions of years old. The "Church" says this is not so and point to the chronology of one Bishop Usher who calculated that the earth was created in or around 4004 b.c. These calculations were taken from the point in creation where God said "Let there be light". (Genesis 1:3)

What the good bishop did not consider (and most "Christians" along with him) is that we are not told what amount of time had transpired between the events of Genesis 1:3 and the events of the previous two verses.

It is highly possible that not only had earth been created long before our present day sun, but that there may have been other generations of humanoids prior to our own. This would account for such discoveries as the Neanderthal man, dinosaurs and other items know as the fossil record.

The problem is that the "Church" demands submission to their self perceived authority. They cannot state the obvious that they (like we all) do not know everything. Instead of being honest, contrite and humble, they simply make it up as they go along.

When the secular world examines the record of organized Christianity and compares it to what is written in the Bible, it is apparent that Christians are not willing to question their "authorities" and instead, accept the most ludicrous doctrines without so much as a single question or doubt. Jesus Christ did not come to send us to church, he came to save us from it.

To any who seek the truth, I recommend the following broadcast:


The hard truth about Christianity



and the following book:


The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse Chronicled


 




In Truth,

Angus

 
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Friday
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Are you Just Angus or have

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December 17 2008, 9:36 AM 

you gone by the name Laird Angus?

Did you know we have been on this forum and the one before it for about 11 years and have heard it all?

Good Morning, BTW.

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(Login Angus_Arbroath)

No...

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December 17 2008, 1:50 PM 

I am a different Angus. My given name is Preston.

Good morning right back to you.

BTW, I doubt you have heard it ALL yet!

 
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Friday
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On here i have...;o)

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December 17 2008, 4:22 PM 



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QUITTNER
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The problem with "Christianity"

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December 17 2008, 1:01 PM 

The problem with "Christianity" is that it isn't Christianity. There are now very many unauthorized versions/denominations of what quite wrongly is called "Christianity". The only valid Christianity is the total of the teachings by Jesus, not including at all the many changes and additions and omissions that were made after Jesus was crucified. Only those people are Christians who at all times follow Jesus and his lifestyle. Jesus insisted that only GOOD persons, now called "Saints", be members of "The Kingdom of God" whose community, an artificial "family", is partly described in Acts 2 and Acts 4. It seems that (some? many? most?) belief systems are only money-collecting businesses with their sales literature whose contents cannot be proven to be true. Too bad that so many gullible people fall/fell for them!

 
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I would like to correct you...

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December 17 2008, 1:52 PM 

...but I cannot.

Your observations are on point. I do wish it were not so.

 
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Christopher Blackwell
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The people problem

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December 17 2008, 10:00 PM 

Angus,

The problem in any religion will be the people in it, far more
than anyone outside of the religion.

Power and wealth develop over time and then become more
important than whatever the original goal was and this is hardly
only a Christian problem. It is the most common problem of the
larger religions and it is the danger waiting for the smaller religions
if they follow the same route.

Now there is another option to connect with the god/dess direct.
Make it a personal search to find what is wanted of you and what
you can do to get closer to the deity. Certainly you can connect
without going through human leaders or priests/ministers if you
chose.

In the case of religions with holy books, you can study them yourself
and apply what you learn to your own life. In my case I study nature
as did my ancestors. the natural rules and laws were created by the
creator and were our original holy books.

I am not sure we can find that all people can fit in one religion, one
denomination. I think there is a personal lesson to be learned. So one
size cannot fit all as we have different strengths and different weakness
to work with and this will give us slightly different lessons to learn.

As Christianity is not my religion, I think I have more important things
to do rather than decide what is right or wrong with Christians or their
religion. That is their job and their responsibility and I will not interfere
with them or their religion. I will leave each religion to its own believers
and followers and concentrate on my religion and more importantly my
practice and belief. let each religion clean up its own act and show by
example what they can be.

Blessed Be,

Christopher


Wisdom is what is left after you have done all the dumb stuff.

 
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Keltoi
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Okay, here's what I don't get about Protestants

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December 22 2008, 8:41 AM 

Nice people and all, for the most part, but there's this glaring logical fallacy.

To accept the Bible as divinely revealed truth (or even literal truth) as opposed to the church (tradtion). That's the position, right?

Except that the Church edited the Bible and put it together. The Bible was never meant to stand alone as one truth, but as a kind of "textbook" in the tradition of church teachings.

It's a bit like someone taking a chemistry course and standing up in the lecture hall and telling the professor he's wrong, because the textbook says differently.

Huh?

Keltoi

 
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Friday
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Off topic....keltoi

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December 22 2008, 2:32 PM 

have you heard anything from Zepher?

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Good News!

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February 12 2009, 1:33 AM 

It is against the teachings of God, and of the Holy Scripture, that other churches is built in other places, let's say in the US, or in England, or in Germany, or in Rome. They also claim that another church had also been founded in the Philippines. The truth is, God did not give any right to anybody to build his own church. It is indeed disgusting that today, a lot of ministers build churches of their own. They deliberately oppose and defy what the Bible said - that, the Gentiles, like us, must join or make ourselves a part of the body, or the Church, for us to be saved.

And what is the reason why we must abide by it? It is because, as far as God is concerned, He did not give anybody His consent to build a church right now in our time. This is what Psalms 127:1 says-

"Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that built it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."

The verse mentioned of a "house," which becomes useless if it is not built by the Lord. Let us now ask the Bible. What is being referred to as the "house," which only God has the right to build? In I Timothy 3:15, it says-

"But if I tarry long , that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth."

If you have noticed, in the New Testament, the word house refers to the Church of God. This is, truly, the house of God because it was built by God, Himself. That is why, if, in our time, you come across churches, whose founders are also their ministers, you can be sure that they are NOT REAL!

By: http://sword44.blogspot.com

 
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question about the Christian God....

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February 12 2009, 5:31 PM 

why would a God make so many stars? They are still being born...why?

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Why would people make so many gods?

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February 18 2009, 2:00 PM 

In historical times very many gods have been described by very many people all over this planet - believers took it all in, and apparently paid money plus free goods and services for that "knowledge".

 
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Each people may have made only one or a few pf them

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February 18 2009, 9:09 PM 

QUITTNER,

Actually each group probably made their own god
and, then when the groups came together, none of
them wanted to give up their god. So the larger group
recognized all of them. This does not mean that most
people worshiped all of them or all of the time.

Blessed Be,

Christopher

Wisdom is what is left after you have done all the dumb stuff.

 
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Yes, you're probably quite right!

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February 24 2009, 1:51 PM 

Maybe "the bottom line" was a major consideration; how for clergy to get as much money as possible out of gullible believers' pockets.

 
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another question

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February 12 2009, 5:33 PM 

why are you spamming this forum?

I counted this "Good news" 3 times...is there more?

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