School Name: Saba
Location: Netherlands Antilles
Basic Science Tuition:
$4,950.00/semester
Clinical Science Tuition:
$5,450.00/semester
USA Clinical Rotations: Yes
Time required for MD: 40 months
In the unlikely event that the U.S. would reinstitute a draft would medical students in the caribbean have an exemption like the stateside M.D. students would have?
Posted on Feb 1, 2003, 5:37 PM from IP address 67.225.150.53
I dont believe the question was will Saba support the draft but rather would Saba medical students be Exempt from the draft like other full time medical students would be here in the US.
Posted on Feb 4, 2003, 4:08 AM from IP address 205.188.200.53
According to Charlie Rangel no-one would receive any kind of deferment. That includes students in American
medical schools. Rangel is he one who is pushing for a new draft.
Posted on Feb 4, 2003, 7:10 AM from IP address 128.194.110.14
It would be highly unlikely that the United States would ever reinstitute the draft - but hypothetically speaking if the draft were to be in effect the law does not specifically state where one must be in attendance in school - simply that it is the responsibilty of the person who is drafted to prove they are currently a matriculated student - meaning a degree seeking student and you would be considered that at any medical school. I do not think that this is anything to worry about in the least - on another note it is nice to know that the administration is fully aware and supportive of service men and women who might potentially have to leave school temporarily to fight in a war.
Posted on Feb 2, 2003, 9:03 PM from IP address 200.50.77.47
I am a recently accepted student to Saba Med. I will be starting my studies on the island in May. I am trying to find out information regarding internet providers on the island... specifically type (dial-up, cable, dsl) and cost.
Is there anyone who can help me out with this one?
Posted on Jan 23, 2003, 9:24 AM from IP address 24.138.59.77
in info. about internet availability
and prices. Are there unlimited plans available?
Does the campus offer wireless internet access if you
have a wireless card?
Posted on Feb 3, 2003, 2:48 PM from IP address 67.209.128.119
I am currently an elementary school teacher strongly considering a career change. I will have to complete my science pre-req's so can't apply for a year or so. I have tons of questions. Most can wait 'til closer to my actual attendance time. However, I am also a single parent with 2 children. They will both be school-age by the time I am ready to matriculate. I am wondering what school options are available for the kids and the cost associated? Also, what other childcare options are available and cost? Are there any other single parents there, or who have gone there that could help me know what life will be like while I try to work through med school and manage the kids?? Thanks.
Posted on Jan 27, 2003, 9:29 PM from IP address 67.25.98.133
Hi Tara,
The best thing is to find out about the schools for your children directly from the schools themselves, but you can also get plenty of info from the Student Handbook (Saba Med School) or the school brochure. How old are your children? My only concern would be will you have enough time to study after they are home from school, help them with their homework, attend to them (if they are young)? Can someone come and live with you?
Posted on Feb 3, 2003, 10:37 AM from IP address 192.107.108.249
I've been accepted to Saba for next year. I think Saba is a great school but I can't figure which of the carribean schools is the best. Each of the schools have their different perks. By word of mouth from graduates and attendees of foreign medical schools I have heard many reasons to attend each school. Some say St. George, Ross and even Saba are the top schools. Those of you who know your stats tell me some things that set Saba apart from Ross. Right now I'm torn between the two and even leaning more towards Ross because of it's many graduates. In the end success is obviously up to the student but if stats say that more students attending a certain foreign school get their MD's I want to know about it. My condensed question is which school is better Saba or Ross and why?
Posted on Jan 27, 2003, 8:31 AM from IP address 67.225.122.190
As far as education is concerned, I'd say that they are probably pretty much equal. The good thing about Ross is that you can do residencies and fellowships in California and New York, which have alot of really good programs.
Posted on Jan 28, 2003, 10:16 PM from IP address 4.42.102.88
Living on dominica is the pitts. Students are not that happy at ross. True ross approved by calif. for licensure. Look into AUC which is approved by calif. and a much nicer island. SABA would be next choice over ross.
Posted on Jan 30, 2003, 2:06 PM from IP address 132.177.221.30
Hi, yes St. Martin or Marteen is a great island and really pretty. People are talking a lot about crime in Dominica, but what you guys really dont know is that crime rate in St. Marteen is greater. Actually in all small island, not includying Puerto Rico, St. Martteen is number one.
One good thing that SABA has is crimerate.
In AUC most likely you will be sent to England for clinicals too.
bye
Posted on Feb 1, 2003, 10:36 AM from IP address 166.72.138.226
Unless you are a 3.7, scored a 30 on your MCAT and can basically study and supplement on your own, go to Ross. But consider this a friendly warning about what the school and life on the island of Dominica will be like. Please don't be surprised or hurt if you fail later on in your basic sciences, it will not mean that you're a bad student, it will mean that Ross let too many students in from the beginning and they just don't have enough spots for clinicals in Miami....so some poor souls have to be held back. Best of luck! As for my medical education, I'm choosing Saba (after months of research). If I were you I would go to Saba or MUA. Save yourself thousands of $$$ on St. George, you will still be a FMSG, no matter what. I hope this helps. I like to be very straight forward, and not sugar coat anything.
Posted on Feb 3, 2003, 10:30 AM from IP address 192.107.108.249
i am a chiropractor physician and am seriously considering saba for my medical education. i wanted to know if any one is aware of the fifth pathway program?
ali d.c
Posted on Jan 20, 2003, 5:21 PM from IP address 172.154.233.221
what do you want to know about the fifth pathway program? some states have it some don't - but really would not apply to students from saba anyway- the fifth pathway is set up for students who come from schools that require a year of internship before they will give the student a diploma. the fifth pathway is so that the student can do a year of internship in a residency program in the US and therefore not actually 'receive' their medical school diploma - the US will then recognize the 'fifth pathway' as completion of their degree. look on the ecfmg for a more eloquent explaination - but it would not really be for saba students.
Posted on Jan 30, 2003, 8:09 AM from IP address 200.50.77.147
This is for Mexico.. Especially UAG.. Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara. Is a great school and really old. And of the first IMG school ever. To get you diploma in Mexico you have to do one year of practice in the goverment to get your diploma.
So student with the US have made the program called FifthPathWay, so if you go to mexico guadalajara or xochicalco and a few more you will do 4 years of medical school and a fifth in the goverment so is really 5 right. This is why is FifthPathWay you do the Fifth year in the USA and not in Mexico and this Fifth year is part of you residency. This way you don't loose a year in Mexico working for mexican goverment.
Now there are only a few state that you can do FifthPathWay, NY, NJ and Puerto Rico, I think that are more but don't know for sure.
This doesn't mean you cant practice in other places, only that you first year of residency has to be in this states. Guadalajara is fully accredited and all 50 states including Puerto Rico, No caribean school, AUC, Ross, SABA, SGU are accredited in Puerto Rico.
Guadaljara is accredited in Florida and California. But in SABA you dont have to worry about Fifthpathway since your clinicals are made in the USA. this is for complete medical schools were you make your clinicals in the schools hospital.
Posted on Feb 1, 2003, 10:52 AM from IP address 166.72.138.226
this is not a program just for mexican medical schools - but you are correct in that saba does not have to worry about this- BUT, it does NOT count towards residency and it is used to substitute the year of 'internship' that some schools require in order to receive a degree - look at the ECFMG site if you want more information - there are many more states that recognize fifth pathway programs too.
Posted on Feb 2, 2003, 9:07 PM from IP address 200.50.77.47
I completely agree with that reply. The fifthpathway is really for schools like the ones in Mexico, and what it actually means is that 5th year following the four years of med school where one is required to become an intern in order to obtain The MD degree.
With Saba things happen rather quickly. One would be out of the country for just two somewhat years and be integrated in the system automatically provided that one succeeds in passing step One...The next two years would be invested in finishing the clinical aspect of the program (rotations per se). With a passing score on step Two one is ready for the matching...
To me Saba(St George, too, I must admit) is the next best thing if one is not fortunate enough to get in a US school.
C. Lozandier,MDA.
Posted on Feb 2, 2003, 4:03 PM from IP address 66.176.69.248
does saba accept transfers directly into 3rd year?
(assume the applicant has completed the 2 years of basic sciences, taken the USMLE Step 1, and is good standing from another caribbean school.(auc, ross, or st george's))
Posted on Jan 26, 2003, 3:03 AM from IP address 205.188.209.103
Due to a parent's death from a chronic illness (myasthenia gravis)I was unable to finish my degree at Penn in Philadelphia. Had solid grades, and now considering foreign med schools. Does anyone who hasn't completed their undergrad actually get in to SABA?
Thanks,
Posted on Jan 31, 2003, 2:14 AM from IP address 12.249.244.140
Check the residency list at Saba.edu. From what I have heard Radiology is almost impossible right now. Anesthesiology is quite possible with good board scores. Plus you might start out in Surgery or Internal med and transfer to Anesthesiology. I don't think PM&R is hard to get at all.
Of course the popularities change every year. Believe it or not Radiology used to be easy to get and Anesthesiology used to be really easy to get.
Posted on Jan 28, 2003, 8:52 AM from IP address 158.121.102.108
I am currently interviewing for anesthesiology residency. It is VERY competitive this year, even tougher than last. The ASA reports that last year (2002 Match), 95% of positions filled, with 81% going to US grads. Of course, these things fluctuate, but from what I have heard first hand on the interview trail is that anesthesia is even more competetive this year. Watch what happens this March for a better idea of what happens.
As for other residencies, unless you have awesome board scores, GPA, and contacts somewhere radiology, ophtho, ortho, and emergency med are virtually impossible. Not completely out of the question, but almost. Again, watch this years Match to see what happens.
As to PM&R, it has been fairly easy to get into, primarily, in my opinion, because few people know about it. If you have not even started med school yet, there are 4 years for these things to change.
Good luck
Mike
Posted on Jan 29, 2003, 6:38 PM from IP address 64.154.126.25
I'm excited to be starting at Saba in May, and I just have a couple of questions about living on the island.
1) How is the internet access at the library? Can you hook up your laptop to get access in the library? I seem to remember hearing about plans for wireless internet on campus, any word on that progress?
2) Has anyone tried or heard anything about the company that offers a P.O. Box in Miami for Saba students? I've heard that for a fee they will then deliver any mail you get to Saba from Miami, so any friends or relatives only have to pay for shipping to Miami. Any positive or negative experiences with this service?
Thanks for your time!
Shawn
Posted on Jan 5, 2003, 7:01 PM from IP address 64.231.101.34
Saba,Ross,or Spartan? If accepted by these three,which would you choose? Saba appears to have good placement and new facilities.Ross is larger in student population,and also has good facilities and placement.Spartan's price is good, it seems to have been around for awhile, and the class sizes are smaller.I know that the ultimate decision is mine, but your input would be appreciated.
Posted on Jan 24, 2003, 4:08 AM from IP address 65.174.184.193
Refer to post #42, response #4 by Seven Jeans Girl. Others posts with info you seek are undoubtedly contained in the forum but I just read this and thought that you might find it of interest.
Posted on Jan 26, 2003, 8:32 PM from IP address 67.234.91.11
Hi Gail....:)
I can't comment on Spartan, however I know that Ross is not a good choice, due to many factors: classes are larger (too many students are accepted), the island of Dominica is not safe (according to Ross students and the problems they encounter), low passing rate on USMLE I, and finally many students fail later in their basic sciences due to a large number of students and not enough clinical spots in the US. Do your research, talk to actual former and current students. I am considering Saba for many reasons: USMLE passing rate (reflects on quality of education), the class size, the size and safety of the island, how helpful the administration is, and of course the placement rate. So, Good Luck, research as much as you can, talk to alumni in your area and I am sure you'll make the right choice.
Posted on Jan 29, 2003, 8:29 AM from IP address 130.156.1.168
I saw on the Saba website that Patch Adams visited the University last week. Would someone who heard his lecture describe his visit? I would have loved to have been there for that!
Thanks,
Mike
Posted on Jan 28, 2003, 6:19 PM from IP address 64.154.127.113
I am just curious. I understand that with the shortened med school program (shortened in that you complete 3 terms per year rather than 2, you are able to finish in less time, but I am curious about how this affects you at residency time... If you finish at a time significantly different from US schools, don't you have to wait for the Match anyway? What is the benefit?
Also, I don't understand the timing of the whole process...you finish basic sciences but have to take and pass Step I before clinicals, so how long does it take to get test scores back? Are you assigned to clinicals prior to taking step I, or do you have to wait 'til you know you've passed? How much lag time is there between each step -- basic sciences to clinicals, clinicals to residency, etc.?
I am trying to decide the best plan, the best way term to enter in so my time in school can flow as continuously and quickly as possible. Any information would be helpful. Thanks.
Posted on Jan 27, 2003, 9:28 PM from IP address 67.25.98.133
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