And part two.
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<Sarah> He'd encourage it. He's like that.
<Robert> Or my cat. Kittens are all agents of chaos.
<@SLViehl> Sounds like my first husband. AKA the Pond Scum
<Gayle> No, cats think we have our world to organized...and sometimes I
agree...but I'm catless right now
<Robert> (ari has just chirped to let everyone know he's here, now he's
purring)
<@SLViehl> My cats have me organized. They're like drill sergeants.
<Robert> Aww, look upon your unchewed cords and remember...
<Sarah> X was perfectly willing to ruin his daughter's life because when
she's upset, she spreads chaos more than normal people.
<Sarah> I miss my cat...
<Robert> I was catless a long time and understand completely.
<@SLViehl> Rush is now purring and meowing in this little teeny voice -- he
didn't have one until a month ago, when his throat finally healed. I went
ten years without cats after Jenner died.
<Gayle> I had so many at one time that I was burnt out....won't happen again
until we live in a pets allowed enviorment
<Anon_59> Grrrr.
<@SLViehl> Sounds like Jen
<Anon_59> No, Anne.
<Anne_Marble> Greaet, now there's two of me!
<@SLViehl> IE still giving you grief?
<Anne_Marble> I clicked the Report button, and it froze. Had to restart the
whole bloody computer.
<@SLViehl> Shame the things that happen when the chainsaw is out in the
shed, right?
<Grr> Okay, I'm back.
<@SLViehl> There's our other Grrr.
<Anne_Marble> Right.
<Grr> Had to make lunch, get tea, put pizza away.
<Jenny> Does that mean you had pizza for breakfast?
<Grr> I never eat pizza for breakfast.
<Grr> That was supper.
<Anne_Marble> I do.
<Robert> Pizza makes a good breakfast! Eggs and toast for supper.
<Sarah> Mmmm, pizza. That was my coming-off-mono-diet reward.
<Gayle> cold pizza for breakfast is cool
<Anne_Marble> And I just had Lucky Chamrs for dinner.
<@SLViehl> The nutritionist in me is quietly fainting over here.
<Grr> It has to be the right kind of pizza, and Pizza Hut just doesn't cut
it.
<Grr> Quick, fan her with a pizza slice!
<Sarah> Spurred on by the fact that there was no other food in the house...
<Jenny> What's wrong with Pizza Hut?
<@SLViehl> No, no cheese, puleeze
<Gayle> Well, Sheila we all have our weak moments...don't we?
<Grr> It's a chain. <g>I make my own when I have the ingredients.
<@SLViehl> (hiding my raspberry cookies) I don't know what you're talking
about, Gayle. Snicker.
<Grr> Sarah--DG?
<Sarah> Yup.
<Jenny> Oh. I come from a Pizza Hut-addicted family.
<Grr> Oh! Well, then. <g> I trust you're feeling better?
<Sarah> Ditto on the chains. It's all about Naples pizza. (Semi-better.
Not half-dead, at any rate)
<Grr> Good to hear. Semi is better than half-dead by any means.
<Grr> Yeah. The best pizza I've ever tasted comes from Grammas in Bethel,
OH. <g>
<Sarah> all the rest tastes like cheese-covered cardboard
<Gayle> There is a couple of good local pizza shops here in Santa
Rosa...both are local chains
<Anne_Marble> I like that Buffalo Wing pizza I got, but the bones were so
crunchy... <Anne ducks and runs>
<@SLViehl> My thighs are getting bigger, just reading this screen.
<Sarah> Lol!
<Gayle> actually the best pizza I had was in the 80's when I lived in Motta
sicily...yum
<Grr> Gee, I hope not. Think of what happened to those of us who actually
ate some!
<Robert> I'll eat any pizza that has more meats on it than crust and lots of
bell peppers, mushrooms, olives.
<Grr> We should start talking about chocolate right about now...
<@SLViehl> Wave that pizza slice over me again, and you may lose some
fingers.
<@SLViehl> No. No chocolate. Absolutely not.
<Sarah> Still can't handle the real thing, chocolate-wise.
<BlairB> i just had 2 chocolate brownies
<Gayle> chocolate like godiva?
<@SLViehl> That would stray into the realm of torturing the host.
<Robert> Chocolate is one ingredient that like pineapple doesn't go on
pizzas.
<Grr> Oh, that would be bad, Sarah!
<Jenny> I bet you've never tried it.
<Grr> Sure it can, Robert. Haven't you ever had a dessert pizza?
<Grr> Uh-oh. I've crashed again.
<Gayle> Especially their milk chocolate with almonds
<Grr> Oh, maybe not!
<Anne_Marble> My gummy worms are gonna feel jealous.
<Sarah> I love pineapple on pizza.
<Robert> Nope, never have - the tomato would ruin the sweets wouldn't it?
<Grr> No tomato.
<Jenny> Probably. I like fruit and chocolate, though.
<Robert> Oh now that would be good if it's all sweets and cheeses that go
with sweets.
<Gayle> haven't had chocolate in such a long time...think I'll treat myself
when the check arrives in Dec.
<Grr> Yup.
<@SLViehl> Folks, I'm having some power flutters here, so if I disappear,
hang on, I'll be back if possible.
<Anne_Marble> Ulp
<Grr> Ok!
<Jenny> (You're really just heading for the corner store to get Hershey's,
right?)
<Grr> Lol, Jenny.
<Gayle> okay
<@SLViehl> I'd better move on while I'm still here (and womanfully resisting
the temptations of chocolate.)
<Grr> Cocoa sounds so good right now...
<Grr> Yes, let's move on.
<Robert> I don't quite understand the appeal of chocolate and women but
accept it and write about it.
<Anne_Marble> <Anne covers her ears>
<BlairB> <happily muching on rice cakes>
<Gayle> actually chocolate dessert pizza IS good
<Grr> It sure is.
<Gayle> Robert it's mainly a woman thing...
<Grr> I like apple dessert pizza too.
<@SLViehl> Just one more comment on naming things -- with places, you need
to be consistent. If you've got a city named Niceville, you don't want it
parked next to Byzantiuminum.
<Grr> My hubby is allergic to chocolate, so I ahve to eat it all.
<Robert> Cool - then it's believable when I make woman characters crazy
about chocolate, female readers empathize?
<Grr> Unless that's the tone of the whole book.
<Anne_Marble> Good point. I once ended up with a Machiavellian place called
Havenworld! Had to change that.
<Gayle> how sad...;-)
<Grr> I think it's a generalization, Robert.
<Grr> stereotype.
<Jenny> My (female) cousin hates chocolate.
<Robert> It's an individual character thing I throw in sometimes.
<@SLViehl> My brothers love chocolate more than I do.
<Anne_Marble> Romance readers often complain about heroines who stop eating
when they're under stress. It's too unrealistic.
<Robert> Coffee though? Coffee means manhood, is Daddy's black coffee. I
don't drink it black except under real stress.
<Grr> I much prefer (if I had a choice) orange sherbert or sunflower seeds
as my snack of choice.
<@SLViehl> True. I like food when I'm stressed -- comfort foods
<BlairB> i think i'm going to have to create a character named Rolo.
<Grr> Olor, maybe...
<@SLViehl> Olor sounds like a badass, Jen.
<Jenny> Coming from Seattle, I don't think coffee is gender-specific.
<Grr> Yeah. Reminds me of Odor, though.
<Robert> It's a personal thing, Dad loved it, mom disapproved.
<@SLViehl> Does anyone have any problems to bring up with naming stuff
before we slide on to titles?
<Anne_Marble> There was a toy robot named Tobor.
<Jenny> What if you can't decide between names?
<Anne_Marble> What do you do if you name a character and then realize the
name sucks, but it has sort of stuck?
<Grr> And the Mirror of Erised in HP.
<@SLViehl> Ask the pickiest person you know, Jenny, to choose.
<Robert> Titles! Yes, titles are a cool thing, Sheila! What in native
language in fantasy world is Mister and Miz, noble and more noble, landed
and unlanded, et cetera...
<@SLViehl> Dump it. Even if it hurts, Anne. Sucky names are sucky names
even when you get used to them.
<Sarah> <ashamed of how long it took her to figure out Erised>
<Grr> The summer of mirror-language paid off. I knew it from the start. <g>
<Robert> I got inspired by Julian May's descriptive titles in Pliocene Exile
and decided Piarrans didn't worry about what the title was, that was sort of
nickname or occupational, but how MANY for status up to nine.
<Anne_Marble> You know you're in trouble when someone reads your first
chapter and makes fun of the name. Hey, Nohan looks great until you
pronounce it...
<Grr> What's wrong with it?
<@SLViehl> No hand. That's my immediate take.
<Robert> Nohan was here. Nohan was responsible. Nohan poked the eye out on
that Cyclops...
<Anne_Marble> He asked, "Is he an amputee?"
<Grr> I'd pronounce it like Johann.
<Sarah> That's what I was thinking
<Grr> But use it backwards... Nahon.
<Robert> I wound up pronouncing it like noone
<Anne_Marble> He eventually became Merik. Maybe I'll call him Laraec.
<Grr> There you go.
<@SLViehl> I like Merik. Laraec, too.
<Anne_Marble> Machiavellian warrior type. Laraec suits him better, I guess.
But Merik is more ruthless.
<@SLViehl> My latest hero is named Drefan. I love that name 'cause I get to
call him "Dre", and it means "trouble"
<Robert> I need to do other titling systems though and not always derive 'em
from 'pick a nationality' or worse, mix common Euro titles in same fairy
kingdom English and French
<Robert> Oh Drefan sounds cool! So does 'it means trouble.'
<Grr> Cool, Sheila.
<@SLViehl> Anglo Saxon. Any man with a name that means trouble is okay by
me.
<@SLViehl> But we should push on to titles, before we turn into pumpkins.
<Grr> Yes
<@SLViehl> On titles -- and I am a radically, pushy, opinionated title
person -- I think it should absolutely define the book.
<@SLViehl> or story or whatever
<Sarah> My stories usually end up being called whatever they're saved as
because I can't think of anything else.
<Grr> I agree!
<Grr> Or have a large part in the story, at least.
<@SLViehl> I boil it down -- what's the story about? A doctor who travels
the stars. Then I start trimming words.
<Robert> Sometime late in series I have to do a fantasy novel with Untitled
Mixed Media as the title.
<@SLViehl> You want a punchy title to sell it to the readers.
<Robert> They find out he's an artwork who became sapient.
<Grr> One of my next WIPs is titled "Absolutely Nothing".
<@SLViehl> Grubby and mercenary as that sounds, people are going to remember
StarDoc a lot easier than they'd remember the working title of the book --
Border FreeClinic.
<Anne_Marble> My first novel was called "Trail of the Bullet." zzz zzz zzz
<Grr> That's okay, Anne. One of mine was "Wizards of Despair". I think mine
is worse.
<Anne_Marble> I
like that one.
<@SLViehl> That one, Anne, I'd call "Impact" or "Heart Shot", something like
that.
<@SLViehl> (thinking contemporary suspense here.)
<Anne_Marble> Or Horny Spies in Love
<Sarah> roflmao!
<@SLViehl> I really like one-word titles.
<Robert> Horny Spies in Love sounds like a good comedy though.
<@SLViehl> lol, Anne
<Grr> One of my favorite titles was "Island of the Sequined Love Nuns". That
was fun to order at B&N.
<@SLViehl> A title for a book about art forgery -- "Masterpiece"
<@SLViehl> A book about telepaths -- "Mindlink"
<Anne_Marble> One-word titles make it easier for the art dept. to design the
cover.
<@SLViehl> And the print is way larger.
<Robert> Chazho
<Robert> How is using a coined alien term for it if that fits?
<@SLViehl> No one knows what it means but you.
<Anne_Marble> Unless that word is antidisestablishmentarianism...
<Robert> And whoever reads the blurb, it would need the definitiion in the
blurb. But I've seen it on SF things.
<Anne_Marble> Chton
<Sarah> Kichani.... <g>
<Grr> Mine usually run either really long (So You Want to be a Vampire) or
two words or so (Heart's Desire, Second Coming)
<@SLViehl> SF Authors try so hard to be literary with their titles.
<Grr> Yeah, Sarah.
<Sarah> (yet another 'this is what it's saved as title)
<@SLViehl> Well, let's work on it -- what's the story about, Sarah?
<Grr> I have "Untitled (Misty)" open right now, but it has a title, really.
<Sarah> Girl commits treason by releasing captured griffin, griffin rescues
her from execution, they spend the rest of the book trying to find a place
where people aren't trying to kill one or the other.
<Robert> Griffin's Peace
<@SLViehl> Runaways
<Sarah> (Kichani is what he calls her for the remainder of the book)
<@SLViehl> Outcasts
<@SLViehl> Fugitives
<@SLViehl> I'm just throwing words out. The key to the story is the
diversity between the characters and them being on the run
<Anne_Marble> My werewolf novel has a fugitive. If Sarah doesn't use one of
those titles, I might borrow...
<Robert> Isn't there a problem using titles with such common words? I was
going to do a novel titled Lockdown and that's what it's about - and you did
a short story with that title, Sheila.
<@SLViehl> Actually, Robert, I thought I coined the term Shockball, and just
found out someone else is using it.
<@SLViehl> Coincidences happen. Lockdown is a generic term, but I bet our
stories are really different
<Robert> The devil turns off the power in a jail and spooky supernatural
things happen while no electronic locks work, guards are prisoners too,
black magic horror novel.
<@SLViehl> While mine is about a ship of escaped prisoners taking hostages
on the moon.
<Robert> With the most nondenominational exorcism in fiction as all the
believers and good people have to pull together to solve it. Cool! Very
different stories - would it hurt that they have same title?
<Anne_Marble> For either story, the title fits. Short and you know there's a
prison in it.
<@SLViehl> Exactly, Anne. But you can also modify the common words and come
up with new ones. Like DomeBreak instead of Prison Break
<Anne_Marble> The working title of my werewolf novel is "All's Fair" because
it takes place at a fair, and there's conflict and her former lover is
chasing her.
<@SLViehl> I like using provocative titles -- I was really disappointed when
my editor killed SD3's original title -- Skin Games -- because she thought
it sounded pornographic
<Robert> I wouldn't assume that in SF...
<@SLViehl> Is she the wolf, or is he?
<Anne_Marble> Well look at what happened to "Harsh Mistress" magazine. it
kept getting misshelved.
<Anne_Marble> She is the wolf. She's the fugitive, he's like Lieutenant
Gerard in Th Fugitive.
<Robert> Gahh... I can see that if no one knew anything about SF.
<@SLViehl> Irish slang for "friend" is skin, hence skin games. I never
thought about the porno angle.
<@SLViehl> That one I'd probably title "Hunted"
<Anne_Marble> OOoh, that would work.
<Robert> She-Wolf
<@SLViehl> or something to invoke the image of desire and chase, if you know
what I mean.
<Robert> Heat of the Chase
<@SLViehl> Titles should be exciting, they should convey something of your
story to the reader, draw them in, get them interested in buying the book.
<Anne_Marble> Heart Quest.... No, that sounds like something about a witch
who's pursued by the Inquisition. Heart Chase?
<@SLViehl> Night Chase. Night Hunt.
<Gayle> that sounds interesting..heart chase that is
<@SLViehl> Dark. I think werewolf, I think night, full moon, disembowelling
people
<@SLViehl> but then, I'm a ghoul
<BlairB> heart seeker
<Gayle> heart hunter
<Anne_Marble> She turns into a wolf whenever she wants, which is cool.
Furry Love. Uck, no. heart Seeker, yeah, that's cool.
<Anne_Marble> Or I could name it after the events in that book, which is
about a murderer on the loose in a village. The Fitch Slasher or something.
(Gotta rename that village.)
<@SLViehl> Night Slasher
<Anne_Marble> Yeah, that would work!
<Anne_Marble> BTW Marylanders and ex-Marylanders would be interested to know
that the name of the hero is... Jessup!!! originally, he was a jailor, and I
thought that was the perfect name for a jailor.
<@SLViehl> It's a good point -- place titles work, too. I've got Paradise
Island, Dream Mountain, and Sun Valley
<Jenny> I like it.
<@SLViehl> Good name
<Robert> Utopia - it's not but people get that idea real fast.
<@SLViehl> Or the aim of the heroine or hero in the book -- Melting the
Iceman, for example.
<Anne_Marble> I was driving to work one day, and there was his name, right
in front of my eyes.
(On the Route 175 exit sign.)
<@SLViehl> Sometimes it's as simple as that. I had no idea what to call
StarDoc. I played with the words. I switched them around. One night, I'm
standing in the shower, and boom. Title hits me out of nowhere.
<@SLViehl> I was so excited I ran out of the shower, dripping wet, and
nearly broke my neck.
<Grr> I've done that before. Almost.
<Sarah> That happened to me with "Jory's Song" (aside from the neck
breakage)
<@SLViehl> It's as if the title for any book waits inside us, and when it's
right, it can hit you like a freight train out of nowhere.
<Robert> When I was three quarters done with book 3 I realized "Timeweed"
was the perfect title and it was fantastic, fortunately I wasn't moving at
the time.
<Anne_Marble> I titled my romantic suspense novel after a type of rose. I
was looking for a suitable rose to use as a symbol of something mysterious,
and when I found Deep Secret, I realized I had my title, too.
<@SLViehl> Oooo, nice one, Anne
<@SLViehl> (and she says she's having trouble naming stuff. Yeah, right.)
<Grr> I got the title for The Tenth Ghost in chat.
<Sarah> I think my favourite title is still "She Who Treads on Velvet Paws"
<Robert> Sometimes the good titles come fast. Blood Junkie did because too
many nurses were taking blood so I had to write a vampire novel.
<Anne_Marble> Yeah, but I still have to work on... Laurel and Talia and
Lara. (My heroines need work.)
<Robert> Sarah, that is a good title. I love cats, I'm hooked.
<Sarah> I got "To Soothe the Savage Beast" and "With a Dying Fall" out of
Bartlett's...
<Grr> Second Coming was Second Coming from the beginning, but I changed it
halfway through, then changed it back.
<Grr> And the cover art really tells you what it's about.
<@SLViehl> Sarah, you've got that lyrical tone to your titles, that's
something I can't do.
<Robert> Book 4 was Death and Paths and Paths of the Dead and finally became
Riftrunner three volumes later.
<@SLViehl> I love them, but I'm just not lyrical.
<Anne_Marble> When I hit Bartlett's, I usually end up with titles like "Wild
Justice" (great but very common) and obscure stuff.
<Sarah> It's only those three. The others are things like "The Mural"
<@SLViehl> Don't rush yourself on a title. Have a working title, and let it
percolate in your head. Talk to people in chat, they can really help.
<Sarah> and "Mirror, Mirror"
<@SLViehl> I wrote one a ways back titled "Mirror Talk" that I never did
anything with.
<Grr> My Brother, Bigfoot...
<@SLViehl> Loved the title. The story was lame, but the title.
<Anne_Marble> I have a paperback called "Naked Came the Sasquatch."
<@SLViehl> The title sang to me.
<Robert> Explorers (WIP) is a working title, the guys are really clones bred
by aliens, they escape a terrarium and I don't know where they're going so I
don't yet know where they'll wind up. Love that one, Anne.
<Grr> Like "Naked Came the Manatee"?
<@SLViehl> I don't think Sasquatch come clothesd, do they?
<Anne_Marble> Not sure if I still have it, the book might have ended up
being shipped off to the troops.
<@SLViehl> Anyone have any last questions on titling? We're running low on
the clock.
<Anne_Marble> "Naked Came the Stranger" was the original to use that format.
That book was a sort of in-joke in itself, written by several reporters as a
sort of send-up of popular sexy novels.
<Grr> I'm still here!
<Gayle> Not really, came up with some ideas while you guys were talking for
a couple of the short stories I think need re-titling...among other things
<@SLViehl> Round of applause for Jen, please. YAAAAAAY, she stuck with us!
<Sarah> Yay Jen!
<Grr> I think I'll stick with Grr.
<Anne_Marble> Is there anything we should avoid in titles? (Besides obvious
things such as pornography and 25-letter words...)
<Robert> Yeah! Yay Jen!
<@SLViehl> Large unpronounceable words.
<Robert> Naked Pussy would get misfiled even if the cat was on the cover.
<@SLViehl> Anything that indicates gratuitous sex in romance novels
<Robert> And even if the cat was a sphinx
<@SLViehl> Silly comic book type titles. The Avenging Knight.
<Anne_Marble> Oh, yeah, I heard of a mystery called "She Let Him Continue"
that had low sales because mystery fans thought it was a sexy novel.
<@SLViehl> The Heartless Widow
<Sarah> The Sword of Arak-thal
<@SLViehl> Obscure titles
<@SLViehl> Primordial and the Purple Supernova
<Anne_Marble> Like the one I was outlining in freshman high school... What
Thy Quest, Fair Rover?
<Anne_Marble> :f
<Grr> Shouldn't that be "Wot", Anne? <g>
<@SLViehl> You put fair rover in a title, people are going to think it's
about gay men
<Grr> ROTFL.
<Anne_Marble> Or a blond dog.
<BlairB> <groan>
<Robert> Then again if it's a fantasy about a gay bard's quest to find his
lost blond dog...
<@SLViehl> No curse words, obviously. The Stainless Steel Bitch may suit
your story, but it won't pass the editor.
<@SLViehl> And for romance, I think we've pretty much exhausted variations
of The Flame and The Flower in titles.
<Anne_Marble> Just think, "Gone with the Wind" was almost called "Tomorrow
Is Another Day."
<@SLViehl> Or heroine name titles, like "Shanna"
<Anne_Marble> Yeah, I read The Flower and the Shield, or was that the Flower
and the Sword, or was that the Sword and the Flower?...
<Grr> Or The Sword Through the Flower...
<Sarah> Ewww...
<Robert> But "The Hammer and the Cross" by Ken whatsisname the historical
novelist stuck in my head so well.
<Anne_Marble> That was more like it, Jen.
<@SLViehl> Please, no more Flowers, no more Wind
<@SLViehl> I liked Pillars of the Earth. Very cool title.
<Grr> Yeah, that's a good title.
<Sarah> I like the Thief of Always.
<Robert> Yeah, I read it and that DID describe it perfectly. So did Jack of
Shadows by Zelazny for that fantasy novel.
<@SLViehl> That's another good one.
<Grr> I like Gun, With Occasional Music, but I didn't like the book.
<@SLViehl> Occupational titles are good.
<Anne_Marble> Gothic titles were often great, even the bad ones. Brooding
Manor... House of the Closing Doors. (Shrieking Shadows of Penforth Island
was too much, though. But that was Zebra...)
<@SLViehl> Zebra's titles, I find, often match the quality of the prose.
<Grr> Barbara Michaels has some good 'gothic' titles...
<@SLViehl> Look at titles out there all the time. See what's going on the
covers, because that's your best barometer.
<Robert> Then there's the long but good ones like Delany's "Time considered
as a helix of semiprecious stones" - almost longer than the story but it
fit.
<@SLViehl> SF titles tend to be a little weird. Fantasy titles are very
poetic. Romance titles are romantic.
<Grr> The Thread that Binds the Bones is one of my favorite titles.
<Anne_Marble> I think looking at titles (esp. in other genres) can help
create ideas. I've seen some young adult titles that would make great
SF/fantasy novels. The Light in the Forest, etc.
<@SLViehl> I don't think long titles cut it on the mass market anymore.
Those are for magazine stories.
<Robert> I like that one, Grr
<Robert> Wow, insight - you're right, the memorable long titles are on short
stories and good short titles on novels...
<Anne_Marble> 'The Hill of Dreams' by Arthur Machen -- cool except it makes
me think of Hill of Beans.
<@SLViehl> Think brief, think descriptive, think punchy. That's my best
advice.
<@SLViehl> If someone was going to make a movie out of your book, imagine
the title on a marquee.
<@SLViehl> STAR WARS is exciting
<@SLViehl> The Clash of The Empire and The Jedi is not.
<Sarah> Attack of the Clones <shudders>
<@SLViehl> Remember, the average attention span gets shorter every year.
<Grr>
snicker yeah.
<Anne_Marble> 'The Man Whom the Trees Loved' by Algernon Blackwood; 'At the
Mountains of Madness' by H. P. Lovecraft; would not work on a novel this
year!
<@SLViehl> Clone Wars, on the other hand, would work for me, Sarah
<Grr> I don't see why the second one wouldn't work.
<Sarah> Are you listening, George Lucas???
<@SLViehl> I'd make it Madness Mountain.
<Robert> So I could retitle Explorers to Escape and let it go at that and
they can read it to find out what they're escaping.
<Anne_Marble> The second one would be too long.
<Anne_Marble> 'The Ducks of Doom' by Robert Arthur Smith -- I think we can
tell that he's marketing his own work.
<Grr> Of course, then we have "Nibbled to Death By Ducks"
<Robert> Duck!
<@SLViehl> Sure, Robert. Or a variation of Escape.
<@SLViehl> A Quandry of Quackers.
<june> My Romance is
<june> Escape Me Never
<june> Which I found out was
<june> a movie in the 40s or something
<june> but I've never seen it
<Robert> I'd use that for a stalker horror thing.
<@SLViehl> Why not Never Escape Me?
<june> I like it better the other way
<june> Shrug
<@SLViehl> then that's what you go with. What feels right to you.
<june> anyway
<@SLViehl> Editors will change it. Inevitably.
<Robert> I can see Escape Me Never having the last beat on Never as more
menacing.
<Anne_Marble> Looks like June is having
<Anne_Marble> problems with the computer
<Anne_Marble> again
<june> always have problems Anne
<june> can't type more than a few words
<Grr> So do I, usually.
<june> unless I want to crash
<Grr> So
<@SLViehl> Well, folks, I'm going to call it a night. Any last questions?
<Grr> You
<Anne_Marble> That could be an idea for a character in an SF novel...
<Anne_Marble> Not that I can think of.
<Gayle> no, thank you Sheila
<Grr> Nope.
<BlairB> nothing here.
<Grr> Glad I got to stick around!
<Robert> Thanks for a great class, Sheila!
<Anne_Marble> Yay!!! <Applause Sign Blinks>
<Sarah> Thanks Sheila!
<june> Thanks Sheila, interesting
<@SLViehl> I'm going to post some name resources on the Discussion Board
thread, stuff I found over the years.
<Jenny> Thanks for the class.
<@SLViehl> and thanks for getting together with me, this was fun.
<Anne_Marble> Cool!
<@SLViehl> Take care -- bye!
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