I gotta agree with Helen on this one. However "right" M/M spankings may be in a PC world, they are a turnoff to me.
But the main point, I think, has been lost. In his original post, Jinders was saying that we could possibly "justify" an M/F spanking on screen, if only we could offer up, as a sacrifice to the feminists, a counterbalancing male-humiliation scene at the same time. He points to the closing scene of "Young Ideas," in which both Susan Peters and the actor playing her brother are spanked.
I fail to see why any justification is necessary, for scenes of a male spanking a female. Those scenes were box-office winners for more than half a century, if you count from the early silent years to 1963's "McLintock!" True, the feminist revolution sprung up right about the time John Wayne was letting Maureen O'Hara off his knee... and yes, that protest scared Hollywood away from this tried and true formula for several years thereafter.
But in 1980, there was again an M/F spanking in "Cattle Annie and Little Britches." In 1984, there was another in the Steve Martin comedy "All of Me." Then there was "Dunston Checks in" (1994), "Live Nude Girls" (1995) and Canada's "Strictly Spanking," also in 1995. This year (2002)we have the century's first major spankscene in Lion's Gate feature "Secretary," with James Spader delivering a stupendous spanking to the pretty seat of Betty Boop lookalike Maggie Gyllenhaal.
My point is that the formula seems to be making a strong comeback. Hollywood is not so dumb, after all. The studio execs know full well that after they tossed M/F spanking scenes onto the pyre, a new industry arose from the ashes: Independent 8mm films and later videotapes, and now DVDs, all featuring M/F spankings for those who craved what Hollywood no longer cared to offer them.
But in this Brave New World of the 21st century, there are perversions enough for every distaste. Today you can see movies display gratuitous sex and nudity, not to mention plenty of homoerotic action. You can see slasher movies with more gore in one week than the entire decade of the 1940s let us see. The gloves are off, and Hollywood keeps casting about to see what new perversions they can corral, to keep us buying tickets (and, later, DVDs of the same films). Inevitably, they have returned to M/F spankings. And why not?
Tell you the truth, I think "Secretary" may be the bravest movie of them all. Not only because of the excellent spanking scene, but also because of the big poster that advertised the film at the theater where I saw it. That poster -- I'm sure we've all seen pictures of it -- actually depicts a young woman from the back, bent over and ready to receive her swats, and the tagline is "Assume the Position."
Those who remember the 1950s and '60s know that in those days, it was perfectly normal to look up and see a poster advertising "Kiss Me Kate" (1953) and showing a beaming Howard Keel spanking a repentant Kathryn Grayson. Ten years later, the phenomenon repeated itself, with huge posters everywhere depicting the gigantic spanking in "McLintock!" We've stopped seeing those posters now, and can't even see them on the VHS and DVD boxes for those films (oops -- KMK isn't out on DVD yet; they are getting ready for the 50th anniversary release, next year).
But the format, I think, is back. We probably won't be seeing a spanking a week, as we'd like; but it sure won't take another ten years to get us to the next good scene.
And Jinders, don't worry about the future of this genre. It's tested, it's been tried, and it's true. M/F spanking is what makes the world go around. Didn't you know?