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A SERIAL SPANKER ON THE LOOSE IN 1900 ST. LOUIS ?

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NEW YORK EVENING JOURNAL

August 6, 1900


ST LOUIS MAN SPANKS WOMAN

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She MAKES ASSAILANT FLEE BY STABBING HIM WITH HAT PIN


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Special Dispatch to the Evening Journal.

St. Louis, Mo., Aug. 6--Moses Gibbons had the audacity to take Mrs. Mattle Falkerson on his knee and soundly spank her. The spanking occurred in the front of her home, No. 317 South Third Street and attracted a big crowd.

Mrs. Falkerson was scrubbing the front steps when Mr. Gibbons whom she never saw before, came along and asked her to play "catcher" with him. When she refused, Gibbons threw her across his knee and spanked her severely.

While being spanked Mrs Falkerson grabbed a hat pin which she plunged into Gibbons back.

He dropped her and ran off pursued by a mob. He was arrested and after his wounds were dressed Judge Sidener fined him $10 and costs.

Gibbons had no excuse to offer for his peculiar action.

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Posted on Apr 3, 2002, 6:49 PM

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IS IT WRONG?

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NEW YORK EVENING WORLD

JUNE 14, 1894

LETTERS
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IS IT WRONG?


To the Editor:

I am a young girl nearly seventeen years old, engaged to be married next Spring. I have been engaged over six months and want to ask, If it is wrong to sit on a betrothed lover's lap?

My mother tells me strictly that it is very wrong until I am married. I have a true and honorable lover. He and his folks say it is all right. Is it wrong or not?..

ANXIOUS, Yonkers, N.Y.
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A June 23, 1894 Reply...


SAT ON HIS KNEE ONLY ONCE.


To the Editor:

Replying to the letter of "anxious", headed "Is It Wrong?", which appeared in your issue June 14th, inst., let me say, Yes; decidedly so: and if the mother of Miss Anxious had acted her part in a maternal manner such letters as hers would not appear in your interesting column.

At the age of nineten I became engaged to my present husband, whom I had known from childhood. Our engagement lasted two years. One evening my young man stayed so long (it was after 11:30) that my mother came down to send him home and to her surprise she found me sitting on his lap and fast asleep. She woke us up and sent me off to bed, and after giving him a good talking to sent him home.

She then came up to my room, and bidding me to hand her the hairbrush, she sat down on the side of the bed and, taking me across her knees, gave me the soundest spanking that I had ever received, and after giving me a scolding for the inpropriety of my actions she left me with the threat, that if she ever heard of my sitting on his lap again before I was his wife she would whip me again.

This was five years ago. I still remember it, and I know mother was right. If Miss Anxious's mother will adopt the same course with her daughter she will be doing something which her girl may thank her for in later years...

Mrs. A., Blythebourne, N.Y.
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Posted on Apr 2, 2002, 1:08 PM

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EXTRA..EXTRA..READ ALL ABOUT IT

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COMING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS...

-the 1894 Letter To The Editor, from a young married woman telling why she sat on her betrothed's lap only once..

-"stranger spanking" in 1900 St. Louis__the tale of a woman spanked by a stranger on her own porch..

-a 1901 Brooklyn mother's response to her daughter's proposed marriage..

-what happened in 1901 to a Akron, Ohio housewife when she stayed in bed and refused cook her husband's breakfast..

-a question of law in 1901 Wisconsin__ "Is spanking a wife grounds for divorce"..

-a 1903 Iowa father's reaction to finding his runaway teenage daughter performing in a circus side show...

Will

Posted on Apr 1, 2002, 4:37 PM

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your posts are great!!!!

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dear will, you are a posting god! I, for one, know the time and hard work you put in doing this research. I know that I appreciate it as do many, many others. Keep up the good work!

Jim

Posted on Apr 2, 2002, 8:50 AM

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Fringe Fun (+ TV Hanky Panky)

by Jindabyne

Okay, 'take 2' on this message after the 'Network 54' maintenance folks sabotaged my earlier attempt. Can't be helped I suppose.
I recently attended some "Adelaide Fringe Festival" performances which runs parallel to our "Adelaide Festival of Arts". The Fringe offers many fun alternatives to the more pure arts performances.
Two acts touched on spanking, thank goodness. Nothing outstanding but they both spiced up my night. Any spanking promotion's better than nothing right!
One featured the 'out there' New Yorker, Karen Findlay. Her 'in your face' solo performance would not be for everyone. It was not too surprising to find her self spanking herself 3 times throughout her performance. Her DIY spanking style could only have served to arouse interest amongst her audiences in our favourate pursuit. Hey Karen, if you ever need a 'hand', (Cyn style pun), I'm your man! Such a shame when guys are so insipid a gal's got to spank herself!
A more fun moment came later when I attended, "Roulin Mouge", a send up of, "Moulin Rouge". It was a really entertaining performance full of great humour, song & some slick dance moves including some feisty young actresses.
The 1st. act set up the cast relations in anticipation of Act 2 which featured the 'on stage' performance. Just 2 songs into Act 2, out came our favourate anthem, their cheeky rendition of Madonna's "Hanky Panky". Charlotte Mudd, I think her name was, took the lead pleading for the leading man to, "Spank me", with brash confidence that may have left Madonna blushing! Throughout, Charlotte and her female chorus, (dressed in classic short Moulin Rouge style dresses), continued Karen's lead with much self spanking manouvres. Finally Charlotte thrust her tush repeatedly at her lead pleading for him to spank away. In accordance with their act, she eventually gave up in frustration & ran into the audience targetting men for them to spank her instead. Six guys got in at least 1 swat as she scurried from patron to patron. Charlotte stayed for as long as they wanted to spank! (Way to go, Charlotte! Oh, for an aisle seat!) Charlotte was great fun offering her backside up without inhibition to any man who would satify her plea during the song's instrumental break.
I couldn't help but think that Charlotte's energetic enthusiasm would have helped free any inhibitions individuals in the audience had towards their innate spanking interest. I'll bet many couples had (or will have) a go some time later as a consequence seeing how much great fun spanking is. (Especially with Charlotte over their knee. Whoa!)
As we left the performance, most of the cast lined the exit door to thank us for patronising their performance. I couldn't help but give Charlotte a nice hug & cheekily give her 'stunt bum' 3 bonus affectionate pats as I told her how much I enjoyed the whole show. My appreciation seemed to go down well. What an entertainer she was!
As I'd mentioned in the past, "Hanky Panky" has allowed 2 ultra-rare M/F spanking opportunities on Australian TV. One involved ballroom dancer, Paul Rufus, spanking long time partner, Karen Green, over his shoulder in a fun ending to their routine. Karen was having a great time flailing her arms & legs around to Paul's playful attempt.
Another featured commedienne, Julia Morris, flirtaciously chirped out "Hanky Panky" with acclaimed Aussie male strip review studs, "Manpower Australia", as her support dancers. The climax of Julia's rendition was when she voluntarily bent over the knee of one of the stud's lap so he could spank her in time with the music. (Jealous girls?!) What was great was the way Julia thust her butt into her spanker's hand in perfect synchronicity loving every swat. That's teamwork! The performance was on, "In Melbourne Tonight", a variety show. As they went to the add break, the band struck the song up again with spanking resuming until the 'fade out'. Bonus! (Not for devotees of punishment spankings but there is far more to spanking than strict discipline, believe me!)
Anyone else seen any fun moments resulting from Madonna's spanking 'battle cry', (Cyn style pun 2), you would like to share with us? She has done much for our cause & opened the door for actresses so inclined to finally get spanked on stage, albeit playfully.
And so, my life was a happier place!,
Spank On,
Jin.

Posted on Mar 25, 2002, 1:56 PM

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Re: TV Hanky Panky

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Right... You've got the whole throbbing funfest described to a fair-thee-well, Jin. It must have been very exciting and, er, arousing.

But it all brings me back to the same complaint as before. WHY, after all these decades, has there been NO video footage of female spankings produced in Australia? I don't doubt your story, but why can't these provocative programs be preserved on videotape for the rest of the world to enjoy?

's a conspiracy, that's what.

Cheers,
Dan



Posted on Mar 29, 2002, 7:22 AM

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If Only! Downunder's a Downright Let Down! (Sob!)

by Jindabyne

Not just a conspiracy, Dan, but downright frustrating if you let it get to you! However, over the years I've learned to expect very little lest you be living in perpetual disappointment. Consquently, any hint of spanking becomes such a huge bonus.
The only other example I can recall was the Fiona Tonkin ballet scene we've laboured over previously which you know was relatively mild. (Mind due, I really enjoyed it!)
But that's the problem, we're so starved over here, I get carried away with any OTK M/F, no matter how tame. Excuse me making a big deal of such playful moments but they were a big breakthrough, especially knowing the ladies in question. After 4 decades of vigilant viewing, this is the best I could come up with. As we say here, 'bugger all'! As I said elsewhere, our ladies have to travel to America if they want their spankings preserved on celluloid or silver nitrate. Part of the problem is in Aussie culture, girls are rarely spanked, never mind women, & OTK is uncommon also!
Rebecca Smart copped the odd spanking, but that was M/f, not M/F. Mind you, Beck grew up very nicely. Oh, for a repeat performance, (like with England's Holly Aird when she came of age!)
Let's face it, my herisphere's letting the team down. But what to do about it? Perhaps if there's ever a "Babe III", I can arrange for Mrs. Hoggett to get spanked? (Then again, perhaps not!) "Muriel's Wedding" with Tony Collette & Rachel Griffiths, now that film screamed out for some sound, solid spanking! Could a sequel deliver? Claudia Karvan copped a nice 1-whacker from Hugh Jackman in "Paperback Hero". When Claudia stars in the next "Star Wars" sequel, perhaps an aggitated Wookie could take Claudia the next step over his hairy thigh? Maybe Kylie Minogue's next film clip might be the 'dam breaker'? She could spank little sis, Dannii? (Yeh!) Please, fellow Aussies, rise up & be counted. Come on, cobbers, sacrifice your derrieres! Your country needs you to redress this national disgrace!
If I stumble over footage of anything of substance, you can rely on me, Dan. I'm sure we'd all love something fresh & the world awaits "Cinema Swats 6" once the volume of material reaches 'critical mass',
Spank on U.S.A. No wonder they call America, 'The Land of Opportunity'!,
Best Regards,
Jin.

Posted on Mar 29, 2002, 11:58 AM

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Pro Wrestling Video

by Frost


I was just curious if anyone ordered and received the Pro Wrestling Video that was advertised on this forum last year for the price of $20?

Or were you like me and threw away your 20 bucks for nothing, other than the honor of having your inquiries ignored?

Posted on Mar 23, 2002, 9:23 AM

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i order it/got nothing

by Mike

like you i think i threw it away 20 dollar i don't care cause it was only 20 dollar but i figure it was a scam but wanted to try any how.not only that he probalby never had these wrestling spanking on tape. just wanted to screw people.

Posted on Mar 23, 2002, 1:02 PM

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Xpw wrestling

by Mike

does anyobdy know about the spanking match between Lizzy borden and sadyst that happen back in january lizzy spanked sadyst with a paddle otk in the ring. any picture of it anywhere.

Posted on Mar 20, 2002, 1:26 PM

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Re: Xpw wrestling

by MVB

First I heard of it. You have anymore info.

Posted on Mar 20, 2002, 7:24 PM

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No I don't

by Mike

I read it on a web site some where forget it talk about xpw wrestling. went to the offical xpw wrestling web site and found nothing about.

Posted on Mar 21, 2002, 1:22 PM

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Only Reference I found...

by Hyland

http://server48.hypermart.net/krazyjuggalo/cards/3.html

Posted on Mar 22, 2002, 1:39 PM

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Its a fake.

by Malachi

The link you provided is to Evolution wrestling which is an internet fantasy wrestling group. I.E., The match in your link is someones fantasy, not reality. Too bad, but at least the real xpw wrestling federation has had some good spankings.

Posted on Mar 24, 2002, 8:04 AM

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Letter to the Editor, June 14, 1898-Final

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Ok folks, this is it, the last and I think the best of the letters from 1898 issues of the New York Evening Journal about spanking that I was able to find. I checked at three library's.

It will also be the last posting here from me for a few weeks unless I'm able to install and operate the new computer equipment I've ordered before I leave again to hunt for new material the middle of next week.

So what do you think about these letters?

Anyone got old letters or articles to fill the void while I learn how to operate my new computer equipment and hunt down new material.

Will
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New York Evening Journal

June 14, 1898


"A WOMAN, A DOG AND A WALNUT TREE", HER MOTTO

To the Editor: I have read with much interest several letters as to whether grown girls should be spanked, and I venture to tell my own experience as a guide to Perplexed Mother. I have always been punished in the good old fashioned way and as I am the oldest child, I have seen with what loving yet none the less firm and vigorous manner a spanking may be inflicted. My sisters aged seventeen and fifteen agree with this nineteen year old writer that there is something in being place across Papa's knee and having a stout strap or hand applied to the slightly covered breech which will make any girl or young woman dutiful and manageable. EDITH HINES

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Posted on Mar 13, 2002, 7:09 PM

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Letter to the Editor #9, April 27, 1898

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Ah "Mr. Musical Talent", now here was a reader who was hoping a Letter to the Editor would lift his boat.

I also thought you would enjoy reading a letter from a married man who "Wants a Book". It was among the dozen or so letters published in the Evening Journal on April 27, 1898.

Perhaps when "Berkshire" read the letter from "Musical Talent" he decided to purchase a hair brush instead since "action is worth a thousand words" or maybe a helpful reader in a subsequent letter advised him to purchase the recently published book on the "Many Uses of a Hair Brush" might be more helpful.

Do you think "Berlshire's" letter was a set up by the editor or a reader to provke a discussion about the eperience and various acceptable methods good husbands found had been helpful in solving a similar problem.

Perhaps some readers might even
even give testimony that a spanking in the "good old fashion way" might be in order here, that it work for them.

What do you think Holly. Was the Berkshire a "set up" piece ?
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New York Evening Journal

April 27, 1898


MAKES HIS BOW TO SPANKING

To the Editor: The expressions of A Mother I consider of great importance to those raising families. Spanking is preferable to cruel words administered to any member of the family. As a reader of your valuable paper, which benefits the masses, I would like the name and address of every "spanking Mother" who has a daughter she would like educated in music, free of cost. Address with particulars, MUSICAL TANLENT.

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WANTS A BOOK ON THE SUBJECT

To the Editor: I am a married man with a nice little girl of five years old and own a good home, but my wife is not content. She spends her evenings away from home and if I say anythink about it she tells me she has no love for me and only stays for what she can get out of me and her living. What I want to know is if there is any book on the above subject of married women of acting in the like manner. I would like to get one. BERKSHIRE
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Posted on Mar 12, 2002, 1:57 PM

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Letter to the Editor #8, April 23, 1898

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New York Evening Journal.

April 23, 1898

Back to the letters again, but thought the issue raised by Holly in her message deserved a full exploration.

Obviously nothing is ever black and white, wasn't in 1898 and certainly not today, but these old letters do "float my boat" and I hope they do yours.

Have two more letters to post in this series.

Will
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FOUND SPANKING EFFECTUAL

To the Editor: "To spank or not to spank". This is indeed an important matter and I trust you will give space each day for the opinions and results of parents and it would also be well to allow girls to state through your valuable column there experience and opinion on the subject. I have been compelled to spank two daughters age fourteen and seventeen and find it makes them obedient and more careful. Trust you will give the suject space, as I would like to know the results from parents. EL.

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Posted on Mar 11, 2002, 1:51 PM

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AUTHENTICITY-Early Newspaper Letters to the Editor about Spanking

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Holly, raises a good question when she asks the question; Are the Letters to the Editor from the 1898 New York Evening Journal that I have been posting real.

It is a question that has troubled me too.

They are real in that the letters were actually printed in the Evening Journal on the dates I showed. In posting I could have made some typing or other errors. I have sent by snail mail, actual copies of these letters as they appeared to 1898 readers to a few people I know personally who post here from time. I hope soon to have the proper equipment for posting the letters as they appeared in the 1898 issues of the Evening Journal. Still others may have on their own, or even before I did, gone to the library and found these letters and articles.

In order to research the whole year I had to view microfilms, at the US Library of Congress, the New York Public Library and the Hatcher Library at the University of Michigan. Each library had different months and some had certain pages and that others didn't. I may not have viewed all the pages originally issued. The newspaper can also be found at other library's.

Now as to whether the Letters the original 1898 readers and I and subsequently you read were written by a person correspeonding to the likeness of the person who signed it, I just don't know. Your guess is as good as mine.

Yes as Holly underscored 1898, was the peak of what is generally refer to as "Yellow Journalism" , and yes, William Randolph Hearst was the "King" of "Yellow Jornalism" and the Evening Journal was his flag ship, but I don't think these letters were written by the newspaper staff. Editored yes more than likely.

Some no doubt may have been bogus, but I don't believe they're all bogus. I also believe the bogus letters if any were more than likely written by one of our predecessor's.

Frankly, I couldn't imagine a newspaper with a circulation of a million and a half not attracting at least a few readers to respond honestly from the heart. Surely in an era when women were finally beginning to achieve equality, it would not be surprising to find a smart literate young woman in her late teens feeling oppressed by being subjected to frequent over the knee spankings and given the chance express her indignation, just as the girl with the English stepmother argued in one of the earliest letters. Likewise one would expect, mothers who practised spanking to defend it.

Additionally, I think the Evening Journal opened and maintained a discusion on the pro's an con's of spanking older girls and young women because it was a subject of interest and debate, to many of it readers, escpecially women.

The Evening Journal stated clearly in each issue that it was the newspaper for women and also for the working class. It wasn't a stuffy old newspaper for stuffy (hey Princess, just like this page?) old men and submissive, to be seen and not heard women.

As for sameness, almost all spanking stories have a sameness to them. The heavy sense of sameness in these letters sameness may be more to the way they are being delivered, one every day. An 1898 reader may have not seen it that way. The spanked older girls were reaching out to other spanked older girls and anyone who would help stop the practise. Spanking mothers were reasurring each other that spanking what the best method for punihing older daughters.

Assuming the indignant older girl who got a morning slapping from her English stepmother for coming home late the night before, was who she said she was and actually got spanked, when she wrote the letter, she didn't have any idea if it would be published or what the response would be. She obviously didn't get much support from Evening Journal readers. Maybe her stepmother, recognized who the writer and gave her another spanking.

As for the articles that I have or will post soon they are more proveable since most of them were learned about during litigation of one kind or another and appeared in several newspapers,including the most respectable.

Then again one might get suspicious, as I did last month when I discovered two articles in the National Police Gazette (accompanied by delightful sketches) that were very similar to articles that appeared later in several mainstream newspapers.

In 1890 the NPG reported that a Newark, NJ bride of several months had petitioned for a divorce on the grounds that her husband regularly turns her over his knee and spanks her. In 1901 several NY area newspapers reported that a Jersey City bride was suing her husband for divorce because he spanked her. Newark and Jesey City are less than ten miles apart. In 1894 the NPG reported that an 18 year old farmers daughter living in Northport, NY (Long Island) ran away from home and got married because she disliked getting spankings from her father in the "old fashion" way. In 1902 several newspapers in the NY area told about a 19 year old farmers daughter in Wading River (Long Island) who ran away from home because she was frequently spanked by her father over the knee like a ten year old. Northport and Wading River are both on the nothshore of long Island and less than ten miles apart.

Perhaps we might have a very energetic journalist of kindred spirits to our own or what ever the reason the spanking of older children and young
adults was newsworthy in the late 1890's and early 1900's, even in such high class jornals s the NY Times and Tribune. These stories weren't just confined to females, articles about hsuband spanking etc. also appeared regularly.

It is my deduction stories about the spanking of adults or near adults in the "old fashion way" was considered humorous during that era, and frankly well into the 1950's

It also may have provided editors of sensationalist newspapers like the Evening Journal a golden opportunity to push the sensual evelope a bit, as was done by several newspapers in reporting of the "Jamaica Public Spanking". The Evening Journal, the New York Press and the New York World all reported in detail how Mrs Scholl removed Edith Thompson clothing to improve the effectiveness of the spanking.

How many times in 1898 did a newspaper editor get an opportunity to whet the male libido, describing how an attractive and slim twenty four year old girl had her dress and petticoats pushed up to her waist in public and then in that near naked state kick and squirm face down over anothers lap.

Yes, even if you weren't a 1898 spanko, it was story to read and imagine.

The newspaper couldn't be openly accuseed of publishing an immoral story, after all isn't that the way an "old fashion" spanking is administered.

Thank you again Holly for your nicely worded question about the letters that I've had all along and I'm sure other members of the forum as well.


Will














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Authentic news stories

by bellshill

I can remember two stories from the 1960s.in U.K.
newspapers which told of a woman in her thirties getting a bare bottom spanking from her husband,in
front of her children.Another,39years old,was spanked,
not by her husband,but by a man of 26years,after she swore at him.It happened on a train,where she was put across his knee and her skirt was raised.In addition,
schoolgirls of 17&18 years were spanked,on the bare bottom,by one male and one female teacher.
In the 1970s,an actor spanked his actress wife on the bare bottom,when she admitted to having an affair.
There was a fun spanking reported about a school performance of"The Taming of the Shrew".The schoolgirl
who was supposed to be Katherine,had to call off because of illness or injury and the Teacher took over her role.The newspaper treated us to a picture of Teacher over schoolboy's knee.
This contrasts greatly with today,when you never read these stories.In my opinion,this is because they are suppressed.At the same time,there was a British T.V.
Show which was dumped,shortly after a woman was hired
to come on the show and claim,untruthfully,that she
was a battered wife.I am all in favour of jailing men
who beat up their wife,but the same should happen to women who are violent.I have heard of a Female
Politician in the U.K.boast that she had thrown a frying pan at her husband/boyfriend with the bacon etc.
still in it.There are stories in the media which are
genuine,and those which are bogus.You sometimes get the bogus stories in Agony Aunt columns,because they cannot be identified.So,if one of your neighbours was
at the kidding,you cannot expose them as liars.


Posted on Mar 11, 2002, 1:42 AM

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Missing the point!

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Dear will,
>Once again, thanks for all your hard work and insight.
>I know I owe you some info, just haven't had time to
>dig it out yet. I will soon!

>As to whether the stories are true or just stories, is
>kind of missing the point. The reality is that these
>stories were either newsworthy and suitable for >publishing and they were read by the masses as truth.
>If the mood of the times had a problem with the
>veracity of the stories, there would have been more
>outrage or argument.

>The reality is that even today, if you cared to read
>the boring accounts of today's divorce courts, there
>are still husbands spanking wives against their
>sensitive wills.

>Even today, there are young ladies getting well >deserved thrashings, on their bare hind-ends by loving
>parents, and still today, are too mortified to let on
>that it happens.

>Similar stories, friends of a friend, it happened.
>Perhaps not that particlar time or place, but it
>happened. What is more distressing is that we are
>probably only seeing the tip of a real iceberg of
>stories that shame and pride probably buried away.

>I recently saw a talkshow that had a panel to decide
>the right and wrong of an argument. The show was about
>meddling mother-in-laws. One mother-in-law admitted
>that her daughter was subject to spankings and the
>belt from her young husband, thus her meddling. The
>revelation totally destroyed the show, the theme was
>lost to all, and the remainder of the show was about
>the spanking couple, and the spanking.

>This was a hot topic to the Victorian man. Young
>female criminals were subject to bare-bottomed
>birchings in reform schools. In countries like South
>Africa and Australia as late as the late 1800's, the
>cane was a common penal tool.

>Yet, here we are, a hundred years later arguing about
>whether a first-generation Italian mother walloped her
>grown daughter in 1903. Get real, she'd do it now!!!

>By writing an account of a spanking to the papers, one
>was only tweaking the consciousness of the people. You
>may notice from the replies, it didn't raise their >ire. Which for me, at least speaks volumes!!

>Just my take on it all!

>fatherjim

Posted on Mar 11, 2002, 3:16 AM

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Letter to the Editor #7, April 21, 1898

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Here's a quick and short and to the point letter from a pro spanking mother.

Has anyone else researched this era and found additonal articles or letters? Any hot leads?

Do you agree with my observations, most recently passed onto Princess?
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April 21, 1898


A CHAMPION SPANKER

To the Editor: I saw a letter in your paper from a young gal who complained because she is spanked. If girls disobey how are they to be punished if they are not whipped and spanking is the best mode of whipping. A good hair brush or slipper applied to the right place will do more good than a dozen scoldings. The woman who was spanked in the streets of Greater New York got what she deserved, although I would have done it in private. If girls were given a good old fashion over the knee spanking a few times they would be the better for it. A MOTHER

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Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 1:59 PM

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Letters

by Holly

Will,
What interests me most is whether all of these letters are really legit. There's something about them that sounds bogus to me, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's just that a lot of the writers sound alike. What with the yellow journalism of that era, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that maybe some of them were written by the paper itself. I suppose there's no way to know, unless there's research about journalistic practices of the time that discusses the topic.

Interestingly, I read an article recently in Slate about how many of today's women's magazines invent a lot of the "statistics" and first person accounts that make up their stories about sexuality. They invent quotations, incidents, etc. And, of course, there are the "letters" in magazines like Penthouse - I know someone who was paid for a letter she wrote about an experience that she never actually had. So, if it goes on today, I wouldn't be surprised if the practice was rampant then.

Because there is a subtext of sexuality when the subject is spanking and adult women (and men) it seems reasonable to me to be suspicious of the letters' origins. Not that that takes away from their pleasure if that's what floats your boat.

Thanks for all of your work.

Posted on Mar 10, 2002, 2:32 PM

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Authenticity Question

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Good Morning Holly,

As I sit here this beautiful but cold morning in the midwest US, I was wondering if you had read my someshat long response to the issues you raised.

Any comments?

Interestingly this morning as I prepared to post Letter to the Editor #9, as I reviewed my copy of the Evening Journal my eye was caught by another letter titled "Wants a Book....".

If 1890's jounalism in the US was somewhat jaded and self serving as you suggested, and btw I tend to agree with, the "Wants a Book..." letter is definately a spankers "set up piece'.

After all, could any person be so innocent, naive!! Then again.... maybe, books like "Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus" have sold in the millions and made fortunes for there authors and publishers.

What is perhaps most intriguing here is who wrote the letter and why.

Was it from one of our predecessors hoping to generate real life tales of "wife spanking".

Was it a very shrewd understnading of "wants" by the editor to sell newpapers, could you hear him or her (writing these columns at the turn of the 20th century was among the first journalism jobs opened to women) saying "there must be a million frustrated/angry married men out there, married to a shrew and not knowing what to do...or to decent to kick them out of the house or wallop their bottom the next time they went out on the town".

And yes along the way it might sell a few more newspapes to those men and women who find spanking something special, but I don't think that kind of knowledge was widely known and accepted until the 1920's

Your thoughts ?....in this forum or direct.

Will



Posted on Mar 12, 2002, 2:44 PM

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by Holly

Hi, Will,
Sorry not to answer before now. I was away last week on business. I stay away from "fun" sites when I'm using the company laptop and just saw your posting now.

I tend to think that the letters are probably a mixture of letters written by the newspaper and "genuine" letters from readers. As you suggested, it seems likely that a letter might be planted in order to get a discussion going.

You have really piqued my interest in journalism of that era and now I'm going to search for a good history of it.

Thanks for your hard work digging these up. I really enjoy reading them.

Holly

Posted on Mar 18, 2002, 10:43 AM

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Hi Holly,

Thanks for the reply.

Please keep me posted on your efforts to learn more about the history of journalism. I would especially find helpful if you would pass on to me the titles of books you found particularly interesting or helpful and any other bits and pieces of knowledge.

May I suggest you take a look at "Jazz Age Journalism" which discusses the rise of "Picture Newspapers" (sometimes called "Tabloid") in the 1920's.

Posted on Mar 18, 2002, 1:02 PM

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Letter to editor # whatever . . Man's Lights Punched Out

by Princess

Here is an interesting letter to the editor from the "Berkley Barb" on April 2, 1988.

"Mr. Robert Truesdale, an accountant from Springfield, Missouri, appeared in Berkely Municipal Court last week to respond to a complaint from his daughter, Roberta, on a count of assault and abuse. Mr. Truesdale had spanked his daughter in public for smoking pot on the UC Campus. Mr. Truesdale had come to California to encourage his daughter to enter the University of Missouri where he believed she would be better influenced by the 'right people'. Once she rejected him, he spanked her in what the court determined was beyond the father/daughter disciplinary punishment relationship. Mr. Trusedale is now spending 20 days in the County Jail."

(Sorry, Will . . . I just been watching you post this stuff for an eternity and had do pull your leg a bit.)

Please take it in the fun way I intended it . .

Princess

Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 3:32 AM

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Hello Princess,

Welcome back, you give pep and spice to these pages, and thanks for your contribution.

I found nothing to take offense to in your post. In fact it underscored an interesting characteristic of these early articles and letters.

In nearly all the letters and articles about spanking grow-up girls, (as they called women in their late teens in those days), a women is the spanker; a mother or aunt. I can think of only three that I've come across recently from that period were a father spanks his grown up daughter. Though the father doesn't get jailed in these incidents, the newspaper articles are somewhat negative about the practise, whereas the spanking of grown-up girls by aunts and mothers on the other hand was was approved and even encouraged.

Men are obviousily the spankers in articles about wife spanking. In one (which I have not yet posted), an 1892 article, the husband does get a short jail term for spanking his wife. I think that was because he went beyond spanking.

I might note that I've gotten the impression that the newspapers of this era, printed articles about wife spanking for its humor and cover for being a bit risque.

They also seemed to have made a very sharp distinction between a hsuband spanking his wife and a husband beating his wife. Wife beating was widely reported as wrong and reports of jail sentences highlighted. Not infrequently there were reports of policemen clubbing wife beaters.

Over-the-knee spanking of grown-up girls and wife's was not considered a heavy thing in the US in that era.

As always Cynthia, your observations are thought provoking, it must be your youth.

Thanks again and welcome back again.

With warmest regards,

Will

Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 1:38 PM

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Public Campus Spanking:- Real life Style.

by Jin

Interestingly, going with your theme, Cyn, of recent Father / daughter public spankings on Uni campuses, I did read of 1 real-life encounter somewhere on the net. (Heaven knows where or if I will ever refind it?)
It occurred when a new cheerleader's Dad ventured onto his daughter's uni campus. To his dismay, he spotted his daughter @ cheerleader training. (I wonder what she was wearing?) He was apalled as he had forbad her from such extracurricular activity insisting she channel all her efforts into her studies. Enfuriated she had defied his orders & concealed it from him, he marched into their training, confronted her, hoisted her over his knee there & then & wailed into her with 1 almighty spanking. Ouch! (As Smack says, in this posture those short skirts make good access!) Witnesses claimed the spanking was to their assessment a little accessive to suitable parental discipline but they would have, of course, been supportive of their beseiged squad member. The embarrassment factor must have been enormous.
Names were supplied in the article of both spanker, spankee & American Uni. Anyone else seen it or recall the incident in their local media? Anyone remember which Uni, etc, or where I read it on the web? It seemed authentic. Was it?,
Jinsing.

Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 2:52 PM

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Thanks Will and Jin . . What a Relief!!

by Princess


You guys are great . . .

Maybe it is youth as you say but my folks never spanked me or my sisters ever. I talked to my mother about this not long ago and it was interesting. If they had boys I think they would view it differently but having so many girls sort of gave them other ways to teach us than physical punishment. In our culture boys may be spanked but girls seldom. And never in public for either boys or girls.

I always wonder whether letters to the editor like this are real or not. Because they are so old and have no current issues that are similar I often wonder about that. The problem I have is that I even take everything on the web as 'serious' which can be a problem as you all know.

Thanks for letting me in this discussion. It is interesting and maybe we can make it fun.

P.

Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 3:17 PM

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My Old Uni. 'Spanking 101'

by Jindabyne

Following on the real-life uni theme, round my old uni campus of the 1980's, I saw & heard of a few playful M/F spankings. Despite a distortion in the Australian media promoting those hideous black leathered F/M spankings, I delighted that so many of my friends of both genders genuinely loved flirting about M/F spanking. Despite the media push, the natural order seemed as we find it on our groups, M/F, & everyone delighted in joking around about it. The occasional playful M/F spanking occurred & I pulled a few tame ones off myself with some wonderful ladies. One female friend even loved telling of the more serious spankings her current & previous boyfriends had 'handed' her. (Cyn's back & so is this style of pun!) All good stuff!
In the past I've mentioned where 2 old aquaintences of mine, M & PW, were published in a Uni club newsletter endulging in our favourate past-time. M spanked her slightly seriously whilst coolly holding his cigarette in his mouth. PW was reacting very nicely in the great action still. She was obviously feeling a little sting but it was all in good fun. I tried to find this pic recently in the old uni library but the publication in which it was published was not on the shelf. I haven't given up just yet, though. Who knows, with a little persistance I may 'come up trumps'? When back @ A.U. with free time, I'll 'have a go'!
Oh, I also meant to mention, Will, this stuff you've found is brilliant. Those letters give a great insight to a bi-gone era. With us, it will never die! Some letters I've read seemed feigned but these come over as the 'real McCoy'. Thanks so much. In great appreciation,
Jin.
P.S. In the previous item, I meant 'excessive', not 'accessive' re the cheerleader's spanking severity! Mind you, with normal cheerleader attire, 'accessive' may not have been far off the mark!

Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 3:27 PM

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Letter to the Editor #6, April 1,1898

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Here's a plea from a young woman who think's two and three spanking a day are to much.

I posted this letter on January 7th and doing it again because it is part of the 1898 series.
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April 2, 1898

ANOTHER GIRL IS SPANKED

To the Editor: I am a young girl of seventeen years, and I live with my aunt, who has taken care of me since I was seven years old. She is just as good as can be, and loves me dearly, I know, but she is awful strict and spanks me very often when I don't do just as she says, and though I try real hard to please her, I get spanked two and three times some days except Sunday. She just catches me anywhere and pulls me down on her knee and slaps me good with anything that comes handy. Now, I tell her it is not right to spank such a big girl, but she says I will never be to big for her to spank when I don't do what she says. Won't some of your readers write a letter with real good reasons why she ought to stop spanking me, so that when I see it, I can show it to her, so she will stop. A GOOD GIRL

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Posted on Mar 9, 2002, 2:24 AM

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Letter to the Editor #5, March 16, 1898

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Here is the fifth letter in the series. For the record I want to not that on March 16, 1898 the Evening Journal printed two spanking related letters. I've excluded the other letter because I did not think it appropriate.
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March 16, 1898

ADVOCATES SPANKING.

To the Editor: I noted in a recent letter in regard to the punishment of large children or grown up girls that in the opinion of the writer spanking is degrading to the morals and intellect of the one spanked. This might be the case if it was done in public as in the Jamaica spanking affair, but why should corporal punishment by spanking administered by a mother to her daughter be immodest. If it is proper to spank a girl ten years old, why is it improper to spank one sixteen years old, provided she behaves in such a manner as to require punishment? I do not believe a wife should be spanked by her husband:
but I believe a mother would often reproach herself less in after years if she were more firm with her girls when they were between sixteen and twenty. A good sound spanking administered in private will have more good effect than cross words and scoldings, be longer remembered and is not half as apt to cause a sour temper. It is said English young ladies are often spanked by their mothers; but I do not believe American girls suffer much from this sort of punishment. A MOTHER.

Posted on Mar 7, 2002, 6:09 PM

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