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  1. Iglesia ni Cristo in a nutshell - Doctrines exposed sticky (152 replies) View Thread - Cultic Research on Aug 18, 2005, 9:54 PM
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  3. Old and New Testament - 11 View Thread - almario on Mar 28, 2017, 4:10 PM
    1. We have a different law in the New Covenant. - Tomas on Mar 29, 2017, 2:13 PM
      1. Re: We have a different law in the New Covenant. - almario on Mar 29, 2017, 2:37 PM
        1. Re: We have a different law in the New Covenant. - almario on Mar 29, 2017, 2:46 PM
          1. You are repeating the same post. - Tomas on Mar 29, 2017, 2:50 PM
            1. Re: You are repeating the same post. - almario on Mar 29, 2017, 6:00 PM
        2. Good words. Anyway, Heb. 7:19 says "For the law made nothing perfect, but - Tomas on Mar 29, 2017, 2:49 PM
    2. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Mar 31, 2017, 8:58 PM
      1. Sabbaths are not for today. - Tomas on Apr 1, 2017, 8:33 AM
      2. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 1, 2017, 6:53 PM
        1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 2, 2017, 7:35 PM
          1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 4, 2017, 1:44 AM
            1. Did the Father die? The Father was immortal, Is. 57:15, so he can't die. - Tomas on Apr 5, 2017, 12:54 PM
              1. Re: Did the Father die? The Father was immortal, Is. 57:15, so he can't die. - almario on Apr 5, 2017, 5:08 PM
                1. Deut. 33:27 says "The eternal God is thy refuge". Ps. 90:2 says "From everlasting - Tomas on Apr 6, 2017, 3:19 AM
                  1. Re: Deut. 33:27 says "The eternal God is thy refuge". Ps. 90:2 says "From everlastin - almario on Apr 7, 2017, 4:45 PM
                    1. Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - Tomas on Apr 8, 2017, 8:30 AM
                      1. Re: Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - almario on Apr 8, 2017, 3:59 PM
                        1. KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - Tomas on Apr 9, 2017, 5:13 AM
                          1. Re: KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - almario on Apr 9, 2017, 2:50 PM
                            1. Antiquity is veracity? So do you consider ancient Latin translations to be inspired? - Tomas on Apr 10, 2017, 5:14 AM
                              1. Re: Antiquity is veracity? So do you consider ancient Latin translations to be inspired? - almario on Apr 10, 2017, 4:55 PM
                                1. The KJV is just not very antique, it is only several centuries old. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2017, 10:06 AM
                                2. Re: The KJV is just not very antique, it is only several centuries old. - almario on Apr 14, 2017, 6:03 PM
                                3. For example the KJV has the pagan word Easter, in Acts 12:4, a mistranslation - Tomas on Apr 15, 2017, 3:03 PM
                                4. Re: For example the KJV has the pagan word Easter, in Acts 12:4, a mistranslation - almario on Apr 15, 2017, 3:37 PM
                                5. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, James 1:5. - Tomas on Apr 15, 2017, 4:41 PM
                                6. Re: If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, James 1:5. - almario on Apr 15, 2017, 5:50 PM
                                7. You think that whoever made that statement in the Library of Congress was inspired? - Tomas on Apr 16, 2017, 10:22 AM
                                8. Re: You think that whoever made that statement in the Library of Congress was inspired? - almario on Apr 16, 2017, 8:17 PM
                                9. It is that academe, scholastic, in depth scholar at the Library of Congress, who - Tomas on Apr 17, 2017, 4:37 AM
                                10. Re: It is that academe, scholastic, in depth scholar at the Library of Congress, who - almario on Apr 17, 2017, 2:55 PM
                                11. Just because someone at the Library of Congress had a theory about how the KJV came about, - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 9:23 AM
                                12. Re: Just because someone at the Library of Congress had a theory about how the KJV came about, - almario on Apr 19, 2017, 5:53 PM
                                13. It was the KJV that replaced Passover with the pagan name Easter in Acts. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 7:01 PM
                                14. Re: It was the KJV that replaced Passover with the pagan name Easter in Acts. - almario on Apr 19, 2017, 11:51 PM
                                15. Passover is of course usually translated well in KJV, but mistranslated in Acts 12:4. - Tomas on Apr 20, 2017, 3:08 AM
                                16. Re: Passover is of course usually translated well in KJV, but mistranslated in Acts 12:4. - almario on Apr 20, 2017, 6:05 AM
                                17. Of course Christ's resurrection is emphasized in the Bible, but Passover was - Tomas on Apr 21, 2017, 8:43 AM
                                18. Re: Of course Christ's resurrection is emphasized in the Bible, but Passover was - almario on Apr 21, 2017, 3:08 PM
                                19. With Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform Jews, Passover begins only on the 15th - Tomas on Apr 22, 2017, 10:01 PM
            2. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 9, 2017, 11:25 PM
              1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 14, 2017, 6:23 PM
                1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 23, 2017, 12:35 AM
                  1. There have indeed been people who have claimed "I am Christ". - Tomas on Apr 23, 2017, 1:48 AM
                  2. Old and New Testament - 20 - almario on Apr 23, 2017, 4:00 PM
                    1. Of course we should all reject Satan, but as far as the nature of Christ, he told us - Tomas on Apr 24, 2017, 4:15 AM
                    2. Re: Old and New Testament - 20 - almario on May 4, 2017, 7:05 PM
                      1. Old and New Testament - 22 - almario on Jun 20, 2017, 11:23 PM
                        1. Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:18 AM
                          1. Re: Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 6:33 PM
                        2. Re: Old and New Testament - 23 - almario on Jun 22, 2017, 1:44 AM
                          1. Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:45 AM
                            1. Re: Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 3:47 PM
                              1. Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? God was dwelling in Christ. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:02 PM
                          2. Old and New Testament - 24 - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:39 PM
                            1. What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:10 PM
                              1. Re: What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
                                1. Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
                                2. Re: Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
                                3. That is more correct, although Dynamic Monarchianism should not be confused with Arianism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 3:54 AM
                            2. Old and New Testament - 25 - almario on Jun 26, 2017, 2:03 PM
        2. Almario, Paul wrote in Rom. 7:6 "But now we are delivered from the Law". - Tomas on Apr 3, 2017, 4:17 AM
     
  4. I have stopped going. View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 13, 2017, 1:20 AM
    1. Re: I have stopped going. - John Snow on Jun 13, 2017, 1:52 AM
    2. Hope it all works out for you. - Hijo on Jun 13, 2017, 4:58 AM
    3. Please let us know - Deacon646 on Jun 13, 2017, 9:06 PM
      1. What did they say to your daughter? - Hoopdedoo on Jun 14, 2017, 10:53 AM
        1. They quoted some scripture - Deacon646 on Jun 14, 2017, 3:03 PM
      2. I will let you know what they say... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 19, 2017, 3:15 AM
    4. You can try some friendly church, like Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, - Tomas on Jun 14, 2017, 2:41 PM
      1. or give religion a miss altogether - hijo on Jun 14, 2017, 3:25 PM
        1. I was an agnostic before I joined - Deacon646 on Jun 14, 2017, 5:12 PM
          1. INC could actually win another Guinness world record - Hijo on Jun 15, 2017, 12:55 AM
        2. Hijo, the true God is very loving, so if someone is a decent person and just can't - Tomas on Jun 16, 2017, 7:13 AM
          1. Whereabouts in the bible confirms the 2Nd chance? - Hijo on Jun 16, 2017, 10:38 AM
            1. For example Is. 2:2-4 speaks of a time when Mt. Zion will be the highest mountain, - Tomas on Jun 17, 2017, 4:53 PM
        3. I am with you Hijo... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 19, 2017, 3:18 AM
          1. You are leaning very heavily on atheism? But there is no proof there is no God. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2017, 5:39 AM
            1. Shifting the burden of proof - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 20, 2017, 1:33 AM
              1. Well, certainly atheists have the burden of proof, to try and prove that God does not - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:27 AM
                1. Atheists aren't making a claim that God does not exist - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 24, 2017, 4:43 PM
                2. Watch this too... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 24, 2017, 6:44 PM
                  1. Agnostics should not call themselves atheists, that makes things too confusing. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 12:21 PM
                    1. Two things... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 25, 2017, 1:41 PM
                      1. I know he called himself an atheist, but he admitted he has no idea of the probability - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 4:13 AM
          2. I wish you luck, very brave to leave when I understand you were - Hijo on Jun 19, 2017, 7:49 AM
            1. Yes, if you become ultimately saved, then God loves you as you love your sons, - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:32 AM
     
  5. Almario, since that thread is locked, I agree that we can ask God for wisdom, but View Thread - Tomas on Jun 16, 2017, 7:17 AM
    1. Re: Almario, since that thread is locked, I agree that we can ask God for wisdom, but - almario on Jun 16, 2017, 8:26 PM
      1. The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - Tomas on Jun 17, 2017, 3:35 PM
        1. Re: The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - almario on Jun 18, 2017, 4:24 AM
          1. Re: The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - almario on Jun 18, 2017, 3:32 PM
            1. Re: The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - almario on Jun 18, 2017, 11:59 PM
              1. Some people think the Bible reveals everything about God. But it does not. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2017, 5:52 AM
                1. Re: Some people think the Bible reveals everything about God. But it does not. - almario on Jun 19, 2017, 2:30 PM
                  1. Of course I recognize who God is, that he is he, the Almighty, and I recognize - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:45 AM
                    1. Re: Of course I recognize who God is, that he is he, the Almighty, and I recognize - almario on Jun 22, 2017, 2:25 AM
                      1. Jesus spoke to unbelievers in parables, but that was because it was not time yet - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:35 AM
                        1. Re: Jesus spoke to unbelievers in parables, but that was because it was not time yet - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:06 PM
                          1. You are going beyond what is written when you call John of Revelation apostle John. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:26 PM
                            1. Re: You are going beyond what is written when you call John of Revelation apostle John. - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 7:31 PM
                              1. John the apostle wrote the gospel of John and 3 epistles of John. But the book of - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:19 AM
                                1. Re: John the apostle wrote the gospel of John and 3 epistles of John. But the book of - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 4:49 PM
                                2. Yes, Jesus was right in John 12:48, those who reject him and receive not his words, - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 4:05 AM
    2. What or who makes it locked? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 19, 2017, 3:15 AM
      1. I am not sure. I guess the forum is monitored for length of threads. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2017, 5:41 AM
     
  6. Nothing new under the sun (Son) View Thread - HiJo on Jun 26, 2017, 1:46 AM
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  8. COFFEEMAKER is the creator of this forum as I recall! View Thread - Eric on Jun 20, 2017, 12:40 AM
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  10. Did Iglesia ni Cristo throw away a WW2 Memorial? View Thread - John Snow on Jun 16, 2017, 4:30 AM
    1. Compare Manalo's war record - Hijo on Jun 16, 2017, 6:46 AM
      1. Gosh, replaced by a 1914 memorial - Coffeemaker on Jun 16, 2017, 2:43 PM
     
  11. The day is coming - Good article View Thread - HiJo on Jun 15, 2017, 5:30 AM
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  13.   This fits the Trinitarians View Thread - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 11:43 AM
    1. Re: This fits the Trinitarians - John Snow on May 20, 2017, 1:47 PM
      1. Is the pronoun "I" one person or three persons? - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 2:05 PM
        1. How did the father SEND the son to earth if the SON did NOT exist yet? - Eric on May 22, 2017, 4:42 AM
          1. Tomas : waiting for your words of wisdom on this one - Eric on May 22, 2017, 4:02 PM
            1. The Son did exist already, INC is wrong about it. - Tomas on May 24, 2017, 4:00 PM
          2. Tell us - Wayne on May 26, 2017, 3:12 AM
            1. The Father sent the Son to the earth from heaven, where the Son had been before. - Tomas on May 26, 2017, 7:22 AM
              1. Joh 20:17 Christ said "I have not yet ascended to the Father" - Wayne on Jun 1, 2017, 3:05 AM
                1. When Christ said "I have not yet ascended to the Father", he was still on earth. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:25 AM
                2. CHRIST had not yet RETURNED to the FATHER. from where HE was SENT! - Eric on Jun 6, 2017, 11:39 AM
        2. Why does bible say when you lie to the HOLY SPIRIT. you have lied to GOD? - Eric on May 22, 2017, 4:43 AM
          1. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, so when you lie to God's spirit, you lie - Tomas on May 22, 2017, 5:20 AM
        3. If CHRIST a CREATION. why JESUS says " I am NOT of this world"? - Eric on May 22, 2017, 4:44 AM
          1. Christ is of heaven, even though he was created in the beginning, Rev. 3:14. - Tomas on May 22, 2017, 5:22 AM
            1. Tomas , you are like INC crowd. learned NOTHING from James White! - Eric on May 22, 2017, 4:14 PM
              1. John 1:1 does not say 'from eternity past'. It says instead 'in the beginning'. - Tomas on May 24, 2017, 4:03 PM
        4. Who is is the HIM in John 1:3 if CHRIST did not exist yet? - Eric on May 22, 2017, 4:46 AM
          1. It isn't "HIM" in this translation - Wayne on May 26, 2017, 3:30 AM
            1. BY "IT" Does the original Greek say it?? lol - Eric on May 26, 2017, 10:52 AM
              1. Logos is masculine in Greek. - Wayne on Jun 1, 2017, 3:09 AM
                1. Yes, but in verse 14, the Word became flesh and lived among us, so the Word is Christ. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:32 AM
                  1. Re: Yes, but in verse 14, the Word became flesh and lived among us, so the Word is Christ. - almario on Jun 6, 2017, 4:21 PM
                    1. So why do you say deceivingly, when you seem to agree with me? - Tomas on Jun 7, 2017, 6:13 PM
                      1. Re: So why do you say deceivingly, when you seem to agree with me? - almario on Jun 7, 2017, 6:51 PM
                        1. I always try to be in harmony with God's doctrines, though recognizing none of us - Tomas on Jun 9, 2017, 4:33 AM
                          1. Re: I always try to be in harmony with God's doctrines, though recognizing none of us - almario on Jun 9, 2017, 4:55 AM
                            1. Sure, we should be searching in the scriptures. Still, none of us can be infallible. - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 2:06 PM
                              1. Re: Sure, we should be searching in the scriptures. Still, none of us can be infallible. - almario on Jun 10, 2017, 8:02 PM
                                1. Do you acknowledge the Bible truth that you can't understand everything in the Bible, - Tomas on Jun 11, 2017, 6:02 AM
                                2. Re: Do you acknowledge the Bible truth that you can't understand everything in the Bible, - almario on Jun 11, 2017, 7:18 PM
                                3. I admit I am not infallible. You criticize my understanding, but you failed to admit - Tomas on Jun 12, 2017, 3:57 AM
                                4. Re: I admit I am not infallible. You criticize my understanding, but you failed to admit - almario on Jun 12, 2017, 8:53 PM
                                5. I am just asking if you accept the biblical truth that none of us, including you, - Tomas on Jun 14, 2017, 2:34 PM
                                6. Re: I am just asking if you accept the biblical truth that none of us, including you, - almario on Jun 14, 2017, 7:32 PM
                2. So when CHRIST said " I came down from heaven" I guess HE meant "IT".LOL - Eric on Jun 6, 2017, 11:41 AM
     
  14. What has the cult to fear? if indeed responsible for recent killings and View Thread - hiJo on Jun 12, 2017, 4:30 AM
    1. I have wondered the same thing - Deacon646 on Jun 12, 2017, 12:46 PM
      1. Revenge, yes might be associates of the two guys who got shot when the Evm stormtroopers - Hijo on Jun 12, 2017, 1:47 PM
        1. You misunderstood me - Deacon646 on Jun 13, 2017, 1:10 AM
          1. Nothing seems to shake the faith in Manalo - Hijo on Jun 14, 2017, 1:09 AM
     
  15. Tomas says: "his (Christ's) non-deity can't be proven through the Bible View Thread - Wayne on May 2, 2017, 1:40 AM
    1. Re: Tomas says: "his (Christ's) non-deity can't be proven through the Bible - John Snow on May 2, 2017, 6:04 AM
    2. Wayne, Hosea 11:9 does not say that God will not be a man in the future. - Tomas on May 3, 2017, 5:11 PM
      1. God was stating a fact that He is not man - Wayne on May 12, 2017, 3:40 AM
        1. At that time God was not a man. God is a spirit but he could have a human body - Tomas on May 12, 2017, 5:00 AM
    3. Thomas is classic troll - Jose Rizal Fan on May 12, 2017, 4:40 PM
      1. Re: Thomas is classic troll - John Snow on May 12, 2017, 5:19 PM
        1. Good argument, God is omnipotent, so he can become a man if he wants to. - Tomas on May 14, 2017, 6:33 AM
        2. Mal 3:6 GW: "I, the LORD, never change. - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 11:35 AM
          1. The LORD is Yahweh, the Father. But he created his Son in the beginning, and - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 3:56 PM
            1. "the Son became a man" from what? - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 4:24 PM
              1. The Son was a spirit, but near 1 BC he became a fertilized egg in Mary, - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 4:31 PM
                1. Is that a tranformation from spirit to man or - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 4:53 PM
                  1. He remained a spirit but became a man. See 2 Cor. 3:17 "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 5:02 PM
      2. Not true, I do provide scriptural evidence why I believe I am right and some are wrong. - Tomas on May 14, 2017, 6:31 AM
      3. Re: Thomas is classic troll - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 11:03 AM
        1. God is a spirit, but in addition could have had flesh and bones. Look at 1 Cor. 15:45, - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 4:07 PM
    4. Another proof of Christ's non-deity - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 11:17 AM
      1. Re: Another proof of Christ's non-deity - John Snow on May 20, 2017, 1:48 PM
        1. I have no faith in the false Trinity doctrine - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 2:08 PM
      2. Wayne, 74 elders "beheld the God of Israel", Ex. 24:10. So they saw God, but - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 4:12 PM
        1. Are you saying the Bible is wrong when it say "no one has ever seen God" - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 4:17 PM
          1. It is correct, when we understand it as no one has seen God in his full glory. - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 4:20 PM
            1. Still no one has seen God's "Self" - Wayne on May 26, 2017, 3:25 AM
            2. Tell us what was seen in God not what was not seen in God - Wayne on May 26, 2017, 3:27 AM
              1. I would think that in Ex. 24:20 God appeared as an old man, just like in Dan. 7:9, - Tomas on May 26, 2017, 7:48 AM
                1. Through a vision just like a "dream" - Wayne on Jun 1, 2017, 3:18 AM
                  1. As if those Protestant theologians were infallible. They sure are not. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:22 AM
                    1. Being infallible does not mean every commentary they wrote are untrue - Wayne on Jun 9, 2017, 1:36 AM
                      1. Being infallible would mean they always wrote truth. But since they are not infallible, - Tomas on Jun 9, 2017, 4:28 AM
     
  16. The debate - You cant argue with a sick mind View Thread - HiJo on Apr 24, 2017, 4:21 AM
    1. INC has problems, it is run like a dictatorship, but that does not mean they are insane, - Tomas on Apr 24, 2017, 5:16 AM
      1. Re: INC has problems, it is run like a dictatorship, but that does not mean they are insane, - John Snow on Apr 24, 2017, 7:19 AM
        1. Legally, in American law, insanity means committing crimes and not being aware - Tomas on Apr 24, 2017, 9:58 AM
          1. You are confused. - Deacon646 on Apr 24, 2017, 11:47 AM
            1. It is not an issue of not understanding the consequences. Somebody might - Tomas on Apr 26, 2017, 2:57 PM
              1. Re: It is not an issue of not understanding the consequences. Somebody might - John Snow on Apr 26, 2017, 7:45 PM
    2. As a dog returns to his own vomit, So a fool repeats his folly. - Coffeemaker on Apr 24, 2017, 11:41 AM
      1. Those who are bound by desire see only that which can be held in their hands. - Iam1plus1plus1 on Apr 24, 2017, 11:47 AM
    3. Obsession is a kind of mental disorder - Wayne on May 20, 2017, 11:50 AM
      1. I'm sure Wayne would love to shoot us INC critics to honor the administration. - Tacloban on May 26, 2017, 8:13 PM
        1. You're suffering from paranoia, a mental illness worse than obsession - Wayne on Jun 3, 2017, 1:15 AM
      2. Are you one with EVM? - Iglesia ni Diniguian on Jun 3, 2017, 3:16 AM
        1. It is not an obsessive mental disorder, it is just blind faith that if you are not one - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 3:30 PM
          1. what do those Muslims and Hindus have to do with INC - Iglesia ni diniguan on Jun 4, 2017, 4:32 PM
            1. It is still blind faith in all these cases. - Tomas on Jun 5, 2017, 8:41 AM
        2. You're hallucinating. - Wayne on Jun 9, 2017, 1:33 AM
     
  17. INC 's English grammar lessons 101 View Thread - Eric on Jun 7, 2017, 2:24 PM
    1. "All things made 'THROUGH' Christ" BUT CHRIST did NOT exist? - Eric on Jun 7, 2017, 2:25 PM
    2. " I came DOWN from heaven . SENT by the FATHER" INC says CHRIST was THOUGHT or PLAN? - Eric on Jun 7, 2017, 2:28 PM
    3. "We don't OWN an airbus." - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 9, 2017, 12:55 AM
    4. How about "sugo ng Diyos sa huling araw?" - iamonewithGod on Jun 9, 2017, 1:11 AM
     
  18. How's White's Alpha & Omega Ministry after the debate? View Thread - Wayne on Jun 1, 2017, 3:48 AM
    1. Living the millionaire lifestyle - HiJo on Jun 1, 2017, 4:32 AM
      1. Had a lovely room at the Hyatt Taipei only $USD 20,000.00 - Gemma Manalo on Jun 2, 2017, 1:25 AM
    2. They're not mentioned in the article you posted? But Mr. White did destroy Ventilcion - I.N.D. on Jun 1, 2017, 11:49 AM
      1. Mr. White utterly failed to win the debate. Ventilacion also performed very poorly. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 4:58 AM
        1. How did White "utterly" lose the debate? Be specific in your INC defense - Eric on Jun 2, 2017, 11:46 AM
          1. I don't see how anyone looking at the Debate objectively - Deacon646 on Jun 2, 2017, 7:11 PM
            1. I understand your point, however White also sometimes failed to answer Ventilacion's - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 3:08 PM
              1. White had WEAK arguments? JESUS is NOT ETERNAL? you think that? - Eric on Jun 4, 2017, 12:18 AM
                1. Jesus is now eternal. He is not mortal any more. Anyway, White had weak arguments - Tomas on Jun 5, 2017, 8:47 AM
                  1. The SON was NOT created! FIRSTBORN doesn't mean CREATED!! - Eric on Jun 5, 2017, 5:03 PM
                    1. Rev. 3:14, the Son is 'the beginning of the creation of God'. - Tomas on Jun 7, 2017, 6:23 PM
          2. Eric, I am not here to defend INC. Mr. Ventilacion also performed poorly. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 2:54 PM
            1. Does the bible teach JESUS is the CREATOR? yes or NO? - Eric on Jun 4, 2017, 12:19 AM
              1. Jesus and the Father are both creators, the Bible is clear about it. - Tomas on Jun 5, 2017, 8:48 AM
                1. Did CHRIST always exist as the SON? Yes or NO? - Eric on Jun 5, 2017, 5:00 PM
                  1. He was indeed created as the Son. - Tomas on Jun 7, 2017, 6:24 PM
    3. Still doing better than the INC - Deacon646 on Jun 1, 2017, 11:57 AM
      1. His website has a "donation" button in there, a cheap way - Wayne on Jun 3, 2017, 1:16 AM
        1. So what? - Deacon646 on Jun 3, 2017, 2:19 AM
        2. Voluntary donations are a foreign concept to INC members - Iglesia ni Diniguian on Jun 3, 2017, 3:07 AM
          1. Voluntary contributions - Deacon646 on Jun 3, 2017, 1:25 PM
            1. Re: Voluntary contributions - almario on Jun 4, 2017, 5:09 AM
              1. Re: Voluntary contributions: !??!!??? - almario on Jun 4, 2017, 1:51 PM
    4. Of course it would be impossible to know if the INC was losing members - Deacon646 on Jun 1, 2017, 12:08 PM
      1. If you break it down by numbers - I.N.D. on Jun 1, 2017, 1:09 PM
    5. Also should point out that - Deacon646 on Jun 1, 2017, 6:30 PM
      1. Re: Also should point out that - John Snow on Jun 1, 2017, 10:52 PM
        1. I am only speaking from personal experience - Deacon646 on Jun 1, 2017, 11:15 PM
          1. I have never been homesick for the former Czechoslovakia. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:05 AM
        2. By the way - Deacon646 on Jun 2, 2017, 2:37 AM
          1. Re: By the way - John Snow on Jun 2, 2017, 3:38 AM
            1. Same here - Deacon646 on Jun 2, 2017, 7:12 PM
    6. Millions flocking to join the only true church - Hijo on Jun 2, 2017, 1:05 AM
      1. Spot on - Hoopdedoo on Jun 2, 2017, 10:59 AM
      2. Yup, Acts 20:28 original greek was wrong... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 3, 2017, 1:52 PM
        1. Some ancient Greek texts say here 'the church of God', others say instead 'the church of - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 3:18 PM
    7. Mainline Protestant churches are declining, but more traditional Protestant churches - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:09 AM
     
  19. Hijo and others: A recap of my history with INC. God bless JESUS. GOD in flesh View Thread - Eric on May 27, 2017, 11:35 AM
    1. If I stop going its splitsville for sure - hijo on May 28, 2017, 3:08 PM
      1. Re: If I stop going its splitsville for sure - John Snow on May 28, 2017, 7:14 PM
        1. Cannot speak for Hijo, but - deacon646 on May 28, 2017, 8:43 PM
        2. Don't know 20 years gone by - HiJo on May 29, 2017, 2:21 AM
          1. Yes, I tried a Pentecostal church once, and I did not like it either. - Tomas on May 29, 2017, 3:20 AM
          2. If I could talk my wife into leaving the Manalo church - Deacon646 on May 30, 2017, 2:13 PM
            1. Not all Lutherans are the same. Some don't believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, - Tomas on May 31, 2017, 4:28 PM
              1. Yet another reason to be a Lutheran. - deacon646 on May 31, 2017, 9:00 PM
                1. Some are saved, but some are unsaved, attending false gospel Lutheran churches. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:34 AM
      2. How about just daydreaming during worship service and not listen to all that adoration of - Tomas on May 29, 2017, 3:33 AM
        1. Thanks Tomas - Hijo on May 29, 2017, 4:03 AM
          1. Wow, disillusioned with INC for already 20 years? It was quite normal under Erano, - Tomas on May 29, 2017, 8:07 AM
            1. Always was bad and always will be - HiJo on May 29, 2017, 10:39 AM
              1. HIJO: My wife and I read the bible daily. You dont NEED to be in any RELIGION - Eric on May 29, 2017, 8:59 PM
                1. Agree I think nature is where God can be found for me in such things as - Hijo on May 30, 2017, 10:51 AM
                  1. Bible - Hoopdedoo on May 30, 2017, 11:00 AM
                    1. Yes, I started with Matthew. I read the New Testament long before I read all of - Tomas on May 31, 2017, 4:37 PM
                2. Re: HIJO: My wife and I read the bible daily. You dont NEED to be in any RELIGION - john 5:39 on May 30, 2017, 4:30 PM
              2. HiJo, then why did you join if you thought from the beginning it was a scam? - Tomas on May 31, 2017, 4:30 PM
                1. He loved her that much. - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 1, 2017, 1:55 AM
                  1. I did leave after about 3 months - Hijo on Jun 5, 2017, 3:18 AM
                2. Why do you incessantly say INC has many TRUE doctrines? - Eric on Jun 5, 2017, 5:02 PM
                  1. Tomas admires the curtains of a house built on rotten foundations - Hijo on Jun 6, 2017, 6:23 AM
                    1. I guess the foundations need to be strengthened. - Tomas on Jun 7, 2017, 6:17 PM
                  2. Eric, don't you agree that it's true doctrine that Mary is not our mediatrix? - Tomas on Jun 7, 2017, 6:16 PM
     
  20. The thought of Possible Divorce View Thread - RileyElizalde on Jun 7, 2017, 4:14 PM
  21.  
  22. Missappropriation of church funds???? Remind me of the time View Thread - hijo on Jun 7, 2017, 3:26 PM
  23.  
  24. INC Defenders vs One With EVM View Thread - I.N.D. on May 29, 2017, 5:23 PM
    1. Re: INC Defenders vs One With EVM - John Snow on May 30, 2017, 2:01 AM
      1. Maybe not smarter - Hijo on May 30, 2017, 3:03 AM
      2. Agreed - Deacon646 on May 30, 2017, 2:09 PM
      3. Do you mean the leadership of INC was already corrupt under Erano? - Tomas on May 31, 2017, 4:41 PM
        1. It's been corrupt since Felix. - I.N.D. on May 31, 2017, 6:42 PM
          1. Was Felix personally corrupt? - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:41 AM
            1. Only a bad character if you count - HiJo on Jun 2, 2017, 7:56 AM
              1. He was a wife beater? That is sad. I hope he repented of that sin. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 5:49 PM
        2. Re: Do you mean the leadership of INC was already corrupt under Erano? - John Snow on Jun 1, 2017, 12:19 AM
          1. I never saw that article. So sad to hear Erano also became rich from leading the INC. - Tomas on Jun 2, 2017, 5:40 AM
            1. Depends how big the needle is... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 3, 2017, 6:46 PM
              1. Thanks for the article. It is sad. Clearly another greedy preacher. At least some - Tomas on Jun 5, 2017, 8:58 AM
     
  25. reporting to US customs View Thread - James on Jun 1, 2017, 3:58 AM
    1. If the PI government grants him a diplomatic passport - Deacon646 on Jun 1, 2017, 12:27 PM
      1. I may have to agree with Deacon. I mean, who the heck EVM is to Donald Trump? - iamonewithGod on Jun 1, 2017, 10:06 PM
    2. not necessarily a domestic issue rather IRS and ICE. - james on Jun 2, 2017, 4:51 PM
      1. ICE would rather spend the time on easier stuff, like deporting aliens who just want to - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 5:29 PM
        1. great another antiTrumper tomas spewing the mainstream media rubbish - james on Jun 4, 2017, 5:53 PM
          1. Foreign government occupation of the US? What kind of white papers are you - Tomas on Jun 5, 2017, 8:39 AM
     
  26. our beloved EVM-NOT! View Thread - hoopdedoo on Jun 1, 2017, 12:43 PM
    1. I wonder who the latest embodiment of EVM will be? Probably Jesus Christ himself. - iamonewithGod on Jun 1, 2017, 10:08 PM
      1. antichrist - inc slayer on Jun 2, 2017, 7:04 PM
        1. INC can be transformed into a normal denominations, as has happened to some cults. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 4:14 PM
    2. Donations....instead of offerings.... - underarmour on Jun 2, 2017, 5:34 AM
      1. Donations - Hoopdedoo on Jun 2, 2017, 10:47 AM
        1. Re: Donations - almario on Jun 2, 2017, 1:51 PM
          1. glad im not the only one that noticed they now need donations in addition to offerin - james on Jun 2, 2017, 4:36 PM
            1. Reminds of the old PTL club - Deacon646 on Jun 2, 2017, 7:51 PM
              1. Yes, they too led many Christians to give and give, many millions to a greedy leader. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 4:20 PM
          2. Re: Donations - almario on Jun 4, 2017, 2:08 PM
     
  27. Another more of the same brainwashing rubbish tonight View Thread - hijo on Jun 3, 2017, 4:27 PM
    1. ohcrap! - hoopdedoo on Jun 3, 2017, 7:52 PM
      1. lets hope - hijo on Jun 4, 2017, 1:00 AM
     
  28. Should a few Manalo's now dier? View Thread - Hijo on Jun 3, 2017, 12:46 AM
    1. Then watch the rejoicing - Hijo on Jun 3, 2017, 12:48 AM
      1. If you mean die, rather than dier, then we should not rejoice over anyone's death. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 3:42 PM
        1. why not its off to heaven for you! you should be looking forward to dying - hijo on Jun 3, 2017, 4:15 PM
          1. I can be better off dying, but my beloved sister and other relatives would be in deep - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 5:09 PM
     
  29. murder of lito View Thread - inc slayer on May 31, 2017, 6:35 PM
    1. I've seen a lot of OWEs rejoicing upon his death. - iamonewithGod on Jun 1, 2017, 1:00 AM
      1. Did anyone ever get convicted for the murder of Mataro at bust stop - Hijo on Jun 1, 2017, 1:48 AM
        1. No one was convicted, but everyone was sure that they were INC's hitmen. - iamonewithGod on Jun 1, 2017, 2:34 AM
          1. Duturd is Manalo's puppet - Hijo on Jun 1, 2017, 6:39 AM
          2. inc hitmen - inc slayer on Jun 2, 2017, 7:01 PM
      2. I couldn't believe what they said to me... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 3, 2017, 12:24 AM
        1. I can imagine someone justifying the murder of a murderer. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 4:06 PM
    2. The black propaganda is active again. They never rest. - Wayne on Jun 1, 2017, 3:10 AM
      1. "black propaganda" - inc slayer on Jun 2, 2017, 7:02 PM
        1. It is a racist term for evil propaganda. - Tomas on Jun 3, 2017, 3:45 PM
     
  30. Will the Internet Slay the Dirty Cult of Manalo? - Is this coming to pass now? View Thread - rosito-ora on Jun 1, 2017, 4:24 PM
    1. Re: Will the Internet Slay the Dirty Cult of Manalo? - Is this coming to pass now? - almario on Jun 2, 2017, 2:35 PM
      1. Edifice of lies - Hijo on Jun 2, 2017, 3:03 PM
      2. Yes I see this happening right in front of my eyes - rosita-ora on Jun 2, 2017, 9:46 PM
     
  31. Had a lovely room at the Hyatt Taipei on $USD 20,000.00 View Thread - Gemma Manalo on Jun 2, 2017, 1:50 AM
    1. Re: Had a lovely room at the Hyatt Taipei on $USD 20,000.00 - John Snow on Jun 2, 2017, 3:39 AM
      1. I wanna stay on top - Gemma manalo on Jun 2, 2017, 7:58 AM
        1. Hey Wayne what ya reckon? Money well spent? - Hijo on Jun 2, 2017, 3:10 PM
     
  32. Oh she's a convert!. Thought she's INC handog. View Thread - Wayne on Jun 1, 2017, 4:10 AM
    1. One wonders how she could even win a prize in a lucky dip - HiJo on Jun 1, 2017, 5:45 AM
      1. If the INC tries really hard - Deacon646 on Jun 1, 2017, 12:13 PM
     
  33. Pocket money- The kids credit cards View Thread - HiJo on May 29, 2017, 2:23 AM
    1. Diplomatic passports?????? - HiJo on May 31, 2017, 3:44 AM
      1. What are the benefits - Kim Jong Il on May 31, 2017, 8:16 AM
      2. Bro, it's the Philippines! EVM is the real government here! - iamonewithGod on Jun 1, 2017, 1:02 AM
        1. Diplomatic makes sense for those big bags of cash - Hijo on Jun 1, 2017, 1:34 AM
     
  34. Confirmed, via TV Patrol View Thread - Capt. Seabird on May 24, 2017, 9:10 AM
    1. Been a while. What I'm trying to say is: Yes, Lito Fruto is indeed dead. - Capt. Seabird on May 24, 2017, 9:10 AM
      1. I don't remember hearing of Lito Fruto. However, murder is a major sin. - Tomas on May 24, 2017, 3:29 PM
        1. Are you going to keep sticking up for the Iglesia after this? - Tacloban on May 26, 2017, 7:45 PM
          1. I don't stick up for the corrupt leadership of INC. - Tomas on May 27, 2017, 6:20 AM
      2. You sure you saw it on TV Patrol? - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 24, 2017, 7:33 PM
        1. Sher Lock had the clip on his FB page. - Capt. Seabird on May 25, 2017, 12:32 AM
          1. That video was from a while ago.. - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 25, 2017, 12:40 PM
    2. This is what EVM has foretold during one of his PPVs. - iamonewithGod on May 24, 2017, 3:26 PM
      1. If EVM really sent out hit men, that would be so disgusting. We need to pray for him, - Tomas on May 24, 2017, 3:33 PM
        1. How about this prayer - HiJo on May 25, 2017, 2:05 AM
          1. EVM might be a psychopath, in which case prayers for him would be almost certainly - Tomas on May 25, 2017, 5:21 AM
            1. EVM - hoopdedoo on May 25, 2017, 11:28 PM
              1. Oaths are allowed in special occasions, Paul made oaths, see 2 Cor. 1:23, - Tomas on May 26, 2017, 7:38 AM
    3. Total news black out - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 25, 2017, 2:52 PM
      1. not even rappler - hijo on May 25, 2017, 3:16 PM
        1. Its now in rappler - Deacon646 on May 31, 2017, 2:36 AM
          1. The article does not say anything was stolen from the car, so it looks like assassination. - Tomas on May 31, 2017, 4:03 PM
      2. ABS CBN / Phil Daily Inquirer are not INC friendly - Wayne on May 26, 2017, 3:09 AM
        1. No legitimate new organization - Deacon646 on May 26, 2017, 12:06 PM
      3. its a total disgrace for filipinos as a whole - inc slayer on May 31, 2017, 6:41 PM
    4. Unconfirmed you mean??? - Wayne on May 26, 2017, 3:28 AM
      1. Evidence Posted - Kim Jong Il on May 26, 2017, 8:41 AM
        1. Hmmm....dude was a US Citizen..... - underarmour on May 26, 2017, 2:49 PM
        2. Hmmm...if this is the same dude..... - underarmour on May 26, 2017, 2:57 PM
          1. That was him.. BUT.. - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 26, 2017, 3:26 PM
    5. one of his last interviews - inc slayer on May 31, 2017, 6:40 PM
     
  35. Evm and the lions den View Thread - Hoopdedoo on May 29, 2017, 8:50 PM
    1. Re: Evm and the lions den - John Snow on May 30, 2017, 1:58 AM
      1. Inc panic - Hoopdedoo on May 30, 2017, 10:56 AM
        1. There is growth in the US - Deacon646 on May 30, 2017, 2:06 PM
      2. Good - Hoopdedoo on May 30, 2017, 11:03 AM
        1. Dr. White was just repeating the usual trinitarian arguments, nothing really original. - Tomas on May 31, 2017, 4:11 PM
    2. I hope you are right but - Deacon646 on May 30, 2017, 1:59 PM
      1. debate effect - hoopdedoo on May 30, 2017, 4:35 PM
        1. Guess I should start listening to what they say. - Deacon646 on May 30, 2017, 6:44 PM
          1. de temple - hoopdedoo on May 30, 2017, 7:15 PM
     
  36. Hey INC Minister - Acts 20;28 doesn't say Church of Christ View Thread - Hijo on May 12, 2017, 2:04 AM
    1. Sometimes its all I can do to keep from laughing out loud - Deacon646 on May 12, 2017, 2:58 AM
      1. Yes, FYM taught some errors. But then nobody is infallible. The main thing is - Tomas on May 12, 2017, 5:07 AM
        1. How would you know? - HiJo on May 12, 2017, 9:24 AM
          1. What they teach - Deacon646 on May 12, 2017, 11:50 AM
            1. Manalo/God/Christ - Deacon646 on May 12, 2017, 1:49 PM
              1. Interesting... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 12, 2017, 2:28 PM
                1. I did not count the prayers and songs - Deacon646 on May 12, 2017, 5:24 PM
                  1. the manalos - hoopdedoo on May 12, 2017, 7:31 PM
                    1. You did better than I did. - deacon646 on May 13, 2017, 3:45 AM
                      1. Today's nothing new - Hijo on May 13, 2017, 12:02 PM
                    2. Why stay? - Jose Rizal Fan on May 13, 2017, 6:02 PM
                      1. They are afraid their family members who are in INC will reject them, never talk to - Tomas on May 14, 2017, 6:22 AM
                        1. Imagine no religion - Hijo on May 14, 2017, 2:17 PM
                          1. With no religion, there would be no eternal life. We would suffer, finally die and that - Tomas on May 15, 2017, 2:13 AM
                            1. HOW DO YOU KNOW!!???? - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 16, 2017, 12:28 PM
                              1. So if you don't like the Bible as proof, then tell me who started the Big Bang? - Tomas on May 17, 2017, 9:50 AM
                                1. I have an answer to that... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 22, 2017, 3:37 PM
                                2. I don't see how science is going to find out the origin. But we monotheists can know - Tomas on May 24, 2017, 3:55 PM
                                3. The same way I know that unicorns exist. - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 27, 2017, 12:39 AM
                                4. There is no proof of unicorns existing. But there is proof that the universe exists. - Tomas on May 27, 2017, 6:14 AM
                                5. Same proof that God exists.. - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 28, 2017, 10:35 PM
                                6. People who believe in unicorns typically don't believe they have the power to create - Tomas on May 29, 2017, 3:41 AM
                            2. And no hell either - Hijo on May 17, 2017, 3:18 PM
                              1. Hell in the Bible translates two Greek words, one is hades, which is the death - Tomas on May 17, 2017, 3:47 PM
                              2. Christian's are practically Atheists... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 23, 2017, 11:21 AM
                                1. Of course Roman pagans accused us of being atheist. Sure we were atheist about their gods, - Tomas on May 24, 2017, 3:59 PM
                                2. Just as much proof for fairies as there is for Jesus - HiJo on May 25, 2017, 2:12 AM
                                3. No martyrs got killed for testifying about witnessing miracles that fairies did, - Tomas on May 25, 2017, 4:21 AM
                                4. One killed himself in Manchester for his fairy - HiJo on May 25, 2017, 8:51 AM
                                5. He did not witness Muhammad being involved in miracles. In fact the Qur'an - Tomas on May 26, 2017, 8:11 AM
                                6. *sigh* again... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 25, 2017, 12:17 PM
                                7. The proof is that the men who saw Jesus performing miracles, then appear alive again - Tomas on May 26, 2017, 8:17 AM
                                8. Thor is real - Deacon646 on May 26, 2017, 12:12 AM
                                9. In a fiction movie. - Tomas on May 26, 2017, 8:18 AM
                                10. Set aside the movie... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 27, 2017, 1:22 PM
                                11. God does not appear any more. Good angels don't appear any more. So if some Vikings - Tomas on May 27, 2017, 2:05 PM
                                12. Wow... you have an answer to everything don't you.. - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 27, 2017, 6:58 PM
                                13. Re: Wow... you have an answer to everything don't you.. - John Snow on May 27, 2017, 10:34 PM
                                14. No, I don't know who is saved. All I know is those who don't believe the gospel - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 10:26 AM
                                15. Not everything of course. But the Bible is clear that when someone sees anyone - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 10:31 AM
                                16. The above is a response to Iam1and1and1. - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 10:35 AM
                          2. Religion has some positives - deacon646 on May 15, 2017, 4:55 AM
                            1. Yes, as long as they don't force themselves on others. What is happening in Thailand, - Tomas on May 15, 2017, 5:54 AM
          2. It is not EVM. I stopped going to INC before Erano died and EVM took over. - Tomas on May 14, 2017, 6:14 AM
            1. love - hoopdedoo on May 19, 2017, 4:31 PM
              1. So keep telling them that Christ said we are to love everyone, even our enemies. - Tomas on May 20, 2017, 5:25 PM
     
 
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