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  1. Iglesia ni Cristo in a nutshell - Doctrines exposed sticky (149 replies) View Thread - Cultic Research on Aug 18, 2005, 9:54 PM
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  3. AE has emerged once again View Thread - iamonewithGod on Sep 19, 2016, 11:30 PM
    1. AE just needs to take the next step - HiJo on Sep 21, 2016, 9:55 AM
      1. Re: AE just needs to take the next step - John Snow on Sep 21, 2016, 7:22 PM
        1. The INC returning in its former glory? Nope, it won't happen - iamonewithGod on Sep 21, 2016, 10:05 PM
          1. WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT? I AM THE BEST LEADER IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE! - EVM on Sep 21, 2016, 10:59 PM
            1. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT MAN ON EARTH! - iamonewithGod on Sep 22, 2016, 5:26 AM
          2. Expelled members praying for this should face this fact... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Sep 22, 2016, 4:19 PM
            1. But the Catholic church has returned to some glory of the second century, after - Tomas on Sep 24, 2016, 4:54 AM
              1. So what's your point Tomas - Iam1plus1plus1 on Sep 26, 2016, 1:51 PM
        2. Let's hope it gets much worse - Hijo on Sep 22, 2016, 2:21 AM
          1. AE just as LOST as he says DEEDS or works get one SAVED.. WRONG! - Eric on Sep 22, 2016, 1:26 PM
            1. I LOVE YOU TOO ERIC! - EVM on Sep 22, 2016, 9:06 PM
            2. Maybe he says good works keep one saved. That, after all, would be more biblical. - Tomas on Sep 24, 2016, 5:01 AM
     
  4. Almario, do all know Yahweh today? Of course not. View Thread - Tomas on Sep 18, 2016, 2:52 AM
    1. Re: Almario, do all know Yahweh today? Of course not. - almario38 on Sep 19, 2016, 4:42 AM
      1. Is. 28:9 is good in KJV, after all babies that are not yet weaned, cannot be taught - Tomas on Sep 19, 2016, 8:16 AM
      2. Re: Almario, do all know Yahweh today? Of course not. - almario on Sep 21, 2016, 2:31 AM
        1. There sure has been a lot of divisiveness concerning different views of the nature - Tomas on Sep 24, 2016, 5:25 AM
    2. tomas when are going to stop studying the bible? - Coffeemaker on Sep 25, 2016, 6:04 AM
      1. It is sure better to keep studying. We should never claim we understand it all. - Tomas on Sep 25, 2016, 9:49 AM
        1. Re: It is sure better to keep studying. We should never claim we understand it all. - almario on Sep 25, 2016, 7:02 PM
          1. I agree. Good verses chosen for this topic. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2016, 8:38 AM
        2. Sounds like the INCs - Hijo on Sep 26, 2016, 1:36 AM
          1. Felix Manalo waiting there? He is dead, so he knows nothing. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2016, 8:46 AM
     
  5.   Why the INC member will be saved View Thread - HiJo on Aug 23, 2016, 9:08 AM
    1. Christian God is wonderful, he will save all repentant believers, regardless of - Tomas on Aug 24, 2016, 12:49 PM
      1. Re: Christian God is wonderful, he will save all repentant believers, regardless of - almario on Aug 24, 2016, 8:53 PM
        1. Heb. 9:27 is correct. We die once, and after this the judgement, but the judgement - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 7:34 AM
          1. Re: Heb. 9:27 is correct. We die once, and after this the judgement, but the judgement - almario on Aug 27, 2016, 10:06 PM
            1. You take the parable in Luke 16 literally? Do souls have tongues? Was Abraham a huge - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:27 PM
              1. Re: You take the parable in Luke 16 literally? Do souls have tongues? Was Abraham a huge - almario on Sep 2, 2016, 7:33 PM
                1. You are still taking too much in that parable literally. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 12:51 PM
                  1. Re: You are still taking too much in that parable literally. - almario on Sep 6, 2016, 8:41 PM
                    1. No, I don't believe in universal salvation. The Bible is clear, some will not repent even - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 1:01 PM
      2. Yeah Jesus is great indeed! How many of the INC clan will be saved Tomas? - Coffeemaker on Aug 27, 2016, 7:08 AM
        1. Who knows? Perhaps half the INC members are saved, maybe more, maybe less. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 7:36 AM
          1. Re: higher percentage than that of your Catholics - Coffeemaker on Aug 28, 2016, 6:49 AM
            1. Salvation is not an issue of God gambling. God saves repentant believers. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:30 PM
              1. Woe to the Catholics - Coffeemaker on Sep 1, 2016, 12:22 PM
                1. Plenty of Catholics have died saved. Those who died unsaved, they can get saved - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:04 PM
          2. Re: Who knows? Perhaps half the INC members are saved, maybe more, maybe less. - almario on Aug 28, 2016, 2:57 PM
            1. The blind leaders teach false gospels. INC is not teaching a false gospel - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:32 PM
              1. Re: The blind leaders teach false gospels. INC is not teaching a false gospel - almario on Aug 31, 2016, 9:40 PM
                1. No church is infallible, but in gospel doctrines, INC is correct. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 12:55 PM
                  1. Re: No church is infallible, but in gospel doctrines, INC is correct. - almario on Sep 6, 2016, 7:44 PM
                    1. James 2:10 is right, but INC is not trying to get saved by keeping the Law of Moses. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 8:45 PM
              2. Whose blind??? - Inc is teaching a false gospel - HiJo on Sep 1, 2016, 7:51 AM
                1. You are listing 4 things on which INC has wrong doctrines. But on gospel doctrines, - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:07 PM
                  1. Cuckoo land! what gospel doctrines are you talking about? - hijo on Sep 6, 2016, 1:37 PM
                    1. Gospel doctrines are doctrines that we need to know in order to be saved. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 1:06 PM
                      1. You talk a whole lot of nonsense on and on and on - HiJo on Sep 9, 2016, 5:38 AM
                        1. How is this nonsense? For example John 3:16 says those who believe in the Son - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 4:57 AM
                          1. Re: How is this nonsense? For example John 3:16 says those who believe in the Son - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 6:20 PM
                            1. We don't have to know or understand everything in the Bible, to be saved. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 7:56 PM
                              1. Re: We don't have to know or understand everything in the Bible, to be saved. - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 4:49 AM
                                1. If you want to keep the whole Law of Moses, then remember James 2:10. - Tomas on Sep 12, 2016, 6:48 AM
                                2. Re: If you want to keep the whole Law of Moses, then remember James 2:10. - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 2:30 PM
                                3. It is hard to understand what you wrote above. - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 5:58 PM
                                4. Re: It is hard to understand what you wrote above. - almario on Sep 14, 2016, 7:02 PM
                                5. The spiritual sin of losing salvation can be connected with physical iniquity. - Tomas on Sep 18, 2016, 2:26 AM
                                6. Re: The spiritual sin of losing salvation can be connected with physical iniquity. - almario on Sep 24, 2016, 11:53 PM
                                7. I am thinking that at first David refused to repent of his terrible sins of adultery and - Tomas on Sep 25, 2016, 3:47 AM
     
  6. So whats the checklist look like for salvation View Thread - HiJo on Sep 12, 2016, 8:26 AM
    1. Yes, INC expects too much of people, But achieving salvation is much simpler. - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 7:45 PM
      1. Inc only real interest is to relieve the member of as much cash as possible - Hijo on Sep 15, 2016, 2:33 AM
        1. When a denomination is led by greedy unsaved leaders, then that it their motivation. - Tomas on Sep 18, 2016, 2:01 AM
     
  7.   First-Century Church of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo ng Unang Siglo) View Thread - INCquisitor on Jul 16, 2016, 3:13 PM
    1. Mt. 23:8 does not say that the words of Christ take precedence over words of apostles. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2016, 5:20 PM
      1. Tell me Tomas, whose words PREVAIL over the other: the teacher's or the pupil's? - INCquisitor on Jul 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
        1. The apostles are our teachers. Jesus told them about the Holy Spirit, that he will teach - Tomas on Jul 27, 2016, 1:10 PM
          1. Apostle Paul teaches: "The church is SUBJECT to Christ." - INCquisitor on Jul 30, 2016, 12:13 AM
            1. Yes, we are subject to Christ. And Christ is one with God. - Tomas on Jul 30, 2016, 7:26 AM
              1. Apostle Paul trsches that the church is SUBJECT to Christ - NOT to God. - INCquisitor on Jul 31, 2016, 2:49 PM
                1. But Christ is subject to God. So don't ignore God. Fear God. - Tomas on Aug 1, 2016, 2:44 AM
                  1. God commands us to LISTEN to His son (Mt. 17:5). - INCquisitor on Aug 2, 2016, 11:25 PM
                    1. We listen to His Son. But we listen to the whole word of God. - Tomas on Aug 3, 2016, 5:37 AM
                      1. You don't know what "rightly dividing the truth" means, don't you? - INCquisitor on Aug 28, 2016, 5:08 PM
                        1. Rightly dividing the truth is done by studying the Bible to figure out the right - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:09 PM
                      2. Re: We listen to His Son. But we listen to the whole word of God. - almario on Aug 29, 2016, 5:56 PM
                        1. Yes, INCquisitor should study these verses, so he can repent of his fables, - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:12 PM
                          1. Re: Yes, INCquisitor should study these verses, so he can repent of his fables, - almario on Aug 31, 2016, 9:15 PM
                            1. I don't go by any vain philosophies, I go by the Bible. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 2:02 PM
                              1. Re: I don't go by any vain philosophies, I go by the Bible. - almario on Sep 3, 2016, 5:33 PM
                                1. I don't cherry pick verses, I go by the whole Bible. - Tomas on Sep 4, 2016, 7:55 AM
                                2. Re: I don't cherry pick verses, I go by the whole Bible. - almario on Sep 4, 2016, 2:49 PM
                                3. I believe in 1 John 5:8. And I believe in 5:7 the way it is in old Greek manuscripts. - Tomas on Sep 5, 2016, 5:07 AM
                                4. Re: I believe in 1 John 5:8. And I believe in 5:7 the way it is in old Greek manuscripts. - almario on Sep 5, 2016, 4:29 PM
                                5. I believe in every word in the Old Testament in Hebrew, or Aramaic in those sections - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 1:32 PM
                                6. Re: I believe in every word in the Old Testament in Hebrew, or Aramaic in those sections - almario on Sep 7, 2016, 2:19 PM
                                7. Of course Christ manifested in the flesh. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 8:30 PM
                                8. Re: Of course Christ manifested in the flesh. - almarioi on Sep 8, 2016, 4:48 PM
                                9. 1 Tim. 3:16 in original Greek did not say God. It is about Christ. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 5:09 AM
                                10. Re: 1 Tim. 3:16 in original Greek did not say God. It is about Christ. - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 5:41 PM
                                11. Do you actually think every word in the Bible is necessary to be known for our salvation? - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 8:01 PM
                                12. Re: Do you actually think every word in the Bible is necessary to be known for our salvation? - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 11:57 PM
                                13. I believe the whole Bible, but none of us know everything in the Bible, - Tomas on Sep 11, 2016, 7:36 AM
                                14. Re: I believe the whole Bible, but none of us know everything in the Bible, - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 5:02 AM
                                15. We need to know the gospel, in order to become saved. Knowing everything about God - Tomas on Sep 12, 2016, 6:34 AM
                                16. Re: We need to know the gospel, in order to become saved. Knowing everything about God - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 2:35 PM
                                17. Of course those who know the gospel and have loving faith in Christ and in God,q - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 5:46 PM
                                18. Re: Of course those who know the gospel and have loving faith in Christ and in God,q - almario on Sep 14, 2016, 6:29 PM
                                19. Even more specific? You want me to write long essays about it? - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 7:12 PM
                                20. Re: Even more specific? You want me to write long essays about it? - almario on Sep 14, 2016, 7:59 PM
                                21. You write: must be discerned in God's written Words within the realm of His revelations - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 8:52 PM
                                22. Re: You write: must be discerned in God's written Words within the realm of His revelations - almario38 on Sep 14, 2016, 11:27 PM
     
  8.   Almario, since that thread is now locked, the baptism that remits sins is the one View Thread - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 8:29 AM
    1. Re: Almario, since that thread is now locked, the baptism that remits sins is the one - almario on Aug 27, 2016, 1:31 PM
      1. WATER baptism is a CEREMONY. IT is a WORK and NO work can aid you in being SAVED - Eric on Aug 29, 2016, 6:47 AM
        1. Re: WATER baptism is a CEREMONY. IT is a WORK and NO work can aid you in being SAVED - almario on Aug 29, 2016, 5:48 PM
          1. By the WORD! the GOSPEL. BAPTISM by JESUS with HIS blood - Eric on Aug 30, 2016, 8:03 AM
            1. Re: By the WORD! the GOSPEL. BAPTISM by JESUS with HIS blood - almario on Aug 30, 2016, 6:26 PM
              1. In John 3:5 it is not literal water. Look at the next chapter, see John 4:14, the water - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 7:59 PM
                1. Re: In John 3:5 it is not literal water. Look at the next chapter, see John 4:14, the water - almario on Aug 31, 2016, 9:35 PM
                  1. I am not discarding anything, I believe the whole Bible. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:36 PM
                    1. Re: I am not discarding anything, I believe the whole Bible. - almario38 on Sep 3, 2016, 9:35 PM
                      1. Yes, we are converted as spiritual little children, not literal, - Tomas on Sep 4, 2016, 7:39 AM
                        1. Re: Yes, we are converted as spiritual little children, not literal, - almario on Sep 4, 2016, 2:57 PM
        2. Ain't baptism a sacrament? - Coffeemaker on Aug 30, 2016, 11:02 AM
          1. The Bible does not call it a sacrament. That is a term invented in the 3rd century. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 7:45 PM
            1. Who invented the term 'invisible baptism' Tomas? - Coffeemaker on Sep 1, 2016, 6:43 AM
              1. When Jesus baptized you, I hope, with the Holy Spirit, did you see Jesus? - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:42 PM
                1. Dunno, worship what you do not know Tomas.... - Coffeemaker on Sep 3, 2016, 3:21 PM
                  1. I know about Jesus Christ, but of course none of us can know everything about him. - Tomas on Sep 4, 2016, 7:44 AM
      2. Almario, look at for example Mt. 3:11, John said he baptized with water, but Jesus - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 7:40 PM
        1. Re: Almario, look at for example Mt. 3:11, John said he baptized with water, but Jesus - almario on Aug 31, 2016, 10:41 PM
          1. I don't diminish anything, I go by the whole Bible. The Bible makes it clear, - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:55 PM
            1. Re: I don't diminish anything, I go by the whole Bible. The Bible makes it clear, - almario on Sep 3, 2016, 5:51 PM
              1. God commanded the apostles to be observed by them as one of the preludes - Tomas on Sep 4, 2016, 7:50 AM
                1. Re: God commanded the apostles to be observed by them as one of the preludes - almario on Sep 4, 2016, 3:25 PM
                  1. How is it muddled? What word do you disagree with? And I agree with all the verses - Tomas on Sep 5, 2016, 4:51 AM
                    1. Re: How is it muddled? What word do you disagree with? And I agree with all the verses - almario on Sep 5, 2016, 4:35 PM
                      1. How many gods I believe in? - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 1:20 PM
                        1. Re: How many gods I believe in? - almario on Sep 7, 2016, 2:24 PM
                          1. The older manuscripts don't say God manifested in flesh. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 8:32 PM
                            1. Re: The older manuscripts don't say God manifested in flesh. - almarioi on Sep 8, 2016, 4:41 PM
                              1. Soul salvation is not at stake concerning 1 Tim. 3:16. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 5:19 AM
                                1. Re: Soul salvation is not at stake concerning 1 Tim. 3:16. - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 5:26 PM
                                2. Of the verses you quoted, only John 8:24-25 gives a requirement for salvation. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 8:09 PM
                                3. Re: Of the verses you quoted, only John 8:24-25 gives a requirement for salvation. - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 10:41 PM
                                4. Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? Everywhere. - Tomas on Sep 11, 2016, 7:39 AM
                                5. Re: Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? Everywhere. - almario on Sep 11, 2016, 8:56 PM
                                6. You don't believe in the second coming of Christ. But look for example at Rev. 22:20, - Tomas on Sep 12, 2016, 7:10 AM
                                7. Re: You don't believe in the second coming of Christ. But look for example at Rev. 22:20, - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 2:21 PM
                                8. What? I quoted from the Bible. So of course I am sure. - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 6:48 PM
                                9. Re: What? I quoted from the Bible. So of course I am sure. - almario on Sep 14, 2016, 7:37 PM
                                10. You again accuse me of taking everything in the Bible literally? - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 9:07 PM
                                11. Re: You again accuse me of taking everything in the Bible literally? - almario38 on Sep 14, 2016, 10:58 PM
     
  9. get over it butthurt. you can't beat the INC, you can't join either beause ... View Thread - nosliw on Aug 4, 2016, 8:47 PM
    1. LOL no one wants to join you butthead wilson. - chandra on Aug 4, 2016, 10:18 PM
    2. enjoy worshiping EVM while trying to determine which members hate EVM - Squirm INC on Aug 7, 2016, 2:46 PM
      1. Re: enjoy worshiping EVM while trying to determine which members hate EVM - John Snow on Aug 7, 2016, 3:43 PM
        1. Agreed, INC does not survive this - Squirm INC on Aug 7, 2016, 4:12 PM
          1. If they manage to kick EVM out and if the new leadership is better, - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 7:59 PM
        2. No way INC would recover, the billions of debts say so.. - iamonewithGod on Aug 8, 2016, 1:33 AM
          1. When the former Worldwide Church of God got a new leader who started changing doctrines, - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 8:12 PM
      2. There will still be blind followers no matter what... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Sep 12, 2016, 1:47 PM
        1. Well, it is a Christian cult, some are saved, but blind to the problems in INC. - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 8:34 PM
     
  10.   Untitled View Thread - almario38 on Sep 3, 2016, 9:34 PM
    1. spiritual little children, spiritually rich - almario on Sep 4, 2016, 11:11 PM
      1. Well said. - Tomas on Sep 5, 2016, 4:48 AM
      2. Re: spiritual little children, spiritually rich - almario on Sep 5, 2016, 10:53 PM
        1. Re: spiritual little children, spiritually rich - almario on Sep 6, 2016, 6:31 PM
          1. It is not true that we should not ask God for food. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 12:37 PM
            1. Re: It is not true that we should not ask God for food. - almario on Sep 7, 2016, 5:05 PM
              1. Bread in the Bible is normally literal bread, unless the context shows otherwise. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 8:34 PM
                1. Re: Bread in the Bible is normally literal bread, unless the context shows otherwise. - almario on Sep 7, 2016, 11:18 PM
                  1. Different recognitions about Jesus? No, the verse is about another Jesus. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 5:35 AM
                    1. Re: Different recognitions about Jesus? No, the verse is about another Jesus. - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 3:52 PM
                      1. So? Those are good verses. But none of them refer to the issue of another Jesus. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 8:16 PM
                        1. Re: So? Those are good verses. But none of them refer to the issue of another Jesus. - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 10:21 PM
                          1. Many who believe in another Jesus, believe at least similarly as you do that Jesus is God. - Tomas on Sep 11, 2016, 7:52 AM
                            1. Re: Many who believe in another Jesus, believe at least similarly as you do that Jesus is God. - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 5:11 AM
                              1. Do you believe Jesus is God? So do most Christians. - Tomas on Sep 12, 2016, 6:23 AM
                                1. Re: Do you believe Jesus is God? So do most Christians. - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 3:44 PM
                                2. Iniquity is evil behavior and failing to repent of it. It has nothing to do with not - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 5:13 PM
                                3. Re: Iniquity is evil behavior and failing to repent of it. It has nothing to do with not - almario on Sep 14, 2016, 6:06 PM
    2. Re: Untitled - almario on Sep 7, 2016, 4:32 AM
      1. What is the point of this??? - Hijo on Sep 7, 2016, 7:00 AM
        1. You are going against the Bible when you say Christians believe Christ was God in the - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 12:45 PM
          1. Re: You are going against the Bible when you say Christians believe Christ was God in the - almario on Sep 7, 2016, 2:38 PM
            1. In Luke 10:22 Jesus himself declared "No one knows who the Son is, except the Father". - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 8:38 PM
              1. Re: In Luke 10:22 Jesus himself declared "No one knows who the Son is, except the Father&am - almario on Sep 8, 2016, 12:49 AM
                1. Doubting Thomas as explained by an INC - Two versions - Hijo on Sep 8, 2016, 2:22 AM
                  1. So you can read the Bible for yourself and be saved, regardless if you are in INC - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 5:56 AM
                2. Almario, apostle Thomas believed, since he saw Jesus resurrected, so he said - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 5:42 AM
                  1. Re: Almario, apostle Thomas believed, since he saw Jesus resurrected, so he said - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 3:55 PM
                    1. I am not following INC interpretations on this. I am saying instead that Thomas - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 8:30 PM
                      1. Re: I am not following INC interpretations on this. I am saying instead that Thomas - almario on Sep 10, 2016, 10:32 PM
                        1. You accuse INC of blasphemy for not believing Jesus is God?! That is so unbiblical. - Tomas on Sep 11, 2016, 7:57 AM
                          1. Re: You accuse INC of blasphemy for not believing Jesus is God?! That is so unbiblical. - almario on Sep 11, 2016, 3:29 PM
                            1. Are you actually accusing most Christians of having blasphemed against the Holy Spirit? - Tomas on Sep 12, 2016, 6:32 AM
                              1. Re: Are you actually accusing most Christians of having blasphemed against the Holy Spirit? - almario on Sep 12, 2016, 3:25 PM
                                1. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is defaming the Holy Spirit, like calling him evil. - Tomas on Sep 14, 2016, 5:29 PM
                                2. Re: Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is defaming the Holy Spirit, like calling him evil. - almario on Sep 14, 2016, 6:17 PM
     
  11. How insecure is evm? Demanding respect and obedience. .his dick must be TINY! LOL! View Thread - Chandra on Aug 31, 2016, 5:52 PM
    1. Neutral response - Anonymous on Sep 2, 2016, 12:47 AM
      1. Let's be civil - Anonymous on Sep 2, 2016, 12:49 AM
        1. I personally want to be always civil. Anyway, God does not like dictatorships. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:19 PM
      2. Long story short: we should follow blindly even if their atrocities are too obvious,right? - iamonewithGod on Sep 2, 2016, 1:35 AM
    2. EVM - rapid rise now equal to God - truly a miracle - Hijo on Sep 2, 2016, 8:59 AM
      1. that's what happens in a cult. it rises quickly like an yeast infection. - chandra on Sep 4, 2016, 9:03 PM
        1. Do cults follow the same patterns - Absolutely INC is doomed - Hijo on Sep 5, 2016, 2:12 AM
          1. Some cults can evolve into average denominations. - Tomas on Sep 5, 2016, 4:45 AM
          2. Another, even more famous example is the Catholic Church. It was a Christian cult - Tomas on Sep 5, 2016, 5:14 AM
            1. average denomination? The Church is not a thing like the Athenaeum Club Tomas - Coffeemaker on Sep 5, 2016, 3:01 PM
              1. Well, I said almost average denomination. I know you love your church. - Tomas on Sep 7, 2016, 1:56 PM
     
  12. Louiecayayab.com What is this website all about? Secret INC? View Thread - Eric on Sep 6, 2016, 7:50 PM
    1. Sorry Louiecayayab.com - Eric on Sep 6, 2016, 7:55 PM
      1. wow bad day!! LOUIECAYABYAB.com My bad!! lol - Eric on Sep 6, 2016, 7:56 PM
     
  13. Sounds familiar View Thread - HiJo on Jul 27, 2015, 4:39 AM
    1. Sounds accurate - White guy former member on Jul 27, 2015, 4:50 AM
      1. Iglesia Ni Cristo is revolting - HiJo on Jul 27, 2015, 5:55 AM
    2. Disturbing accurate, and here's why it could all end - Aeneas on Jul 27, 2015, 6:31 AM
      1. Good list - White guy former member on Jul 27, 2015, 6:44 AM
      2. up - Ed is not here on Jul 27, 2015, 10:55 PM
    3. Do cults follow the same patterns - Hijo on Sep 5, 2016, 2:16 AM
      1. Christian cults, heretical cults, and cults that have no connection with the Bible, all - Tomas on Sep 5, 2016, 4:33 AM
     
  14.   Almario, since that thread about KJV is now locked, do you believe in unicorns? View Thread - Tomas on Aug 6, 2016, 8:52 AM
    1. Re: Almario, since that thread about KJV is now locked, do you believe in unicorns? - almario on Aug 6, 2016, 5:28 PM
      1. I think they lock threads when they decide the thread is too long. - Tomas on Aug 7, 2016, 4:33 AM
        1. Re: I think they lock threads when they decide the thread is too long. - almario on Aug 7, 2016, 12:51 PM
          1. You are just repeating yourself instead of answering my new post. - Tomas on Aug 8, 2016, 6:58 AM
            1. Re: You are just repeating yourself instead of answering my new post. - almario on Aug 8, 2016, 8:13 AM
              1. Of course the horn of our salvation is not literal. But unicorn is a bad translation. - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 10:21 AM
                1. Re: Of course the horn of our salvation is not literal. But unicorn is a bad translation. - almario on Aug 10, 2016, 6:15 PM
                  1. Why would you think the KJV is inspired? The Bible does not say so. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 5:51 AM
                    1. Re: Why would you think the KJV is inspired? The Bible does not say so. - almarioi on Aug 13, 2016, 2:52 PM
                      1. You think you are wise, but you have been fooled by the KJV only foolishness. - Tomas on Aug 15, 2016, 3:37 AM
                        1. Re: You think you are wise, but you have been fooled by the KJV only foolishness. - almario on Aug 15, 2016, 4:05 AM
                          1. I am certainly not proud, pride is a sin. The KJV is not foolish, but it has errors, - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 1:56 PM
                            1. Re: I am certainly not proud, pride is a sin. The KJV is not foolish, but it has errors, - almario on Aug 17, 2016, 4:06 PM
                              1. Do you think you are infallible? - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 5:43 AM
                                1. Re: Do you think you are infallible? - almario on Aug 20, 2016, 4:12 PM
                                2. Who are you calling a dictator? I am not dictating to anyone, I am debating here. - Tomas on Aug 24, 2016, 1:02 PM
                                3. Re: Who are you calling a dictator? I am not dictating to anyone, I am debating here. - almario on Aug 24, 2016, 5:50 PM
                                4. Surely all translations of the Bible show some bias, after all they are made by - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 7:51 AM
                                5. Re: Surely all translations of the Bible show some bias, after all they are made by - almario on Aug 27, 2016, 1:45 PM
                                6. So do you believe in KJV 1 John 5:7 about the 3 witnesses in heaven? - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:40 PM
                                7. Re: So do you believe in KJV 1 John 5:7 about the 3 witnesses in heaven? - almario on Sep 1, 2016, 2:46 AM
                                8. I mentioned 1 John 5:7 because of the way it is written in KJV. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 2:00 PM
    2. What's this discussion got to do with INC? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 15, 2016, 9:00 PM
      1. Re: What's this discussion got to do with INC? - almario on Aug 16, 2016, 2:07 AM
      2. Iam1plus1plus1, the INC correctly rejects the inerrancy of the KJV translation. - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 2:01 PM
        1. Re: Iam1plus1plus1, the INC correctly rejects the inerrancy of the KJV translation. - almario on Aug 17, 2016, 5:15 PM
          1. Of course I receive Jesus' words, so then why quote John 12:48 to me? - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 5:53 AM
            1. Re: Of course I receive Jesus' words, so then why quote John 12:48 to me? - almario on Aug 20, 2016, 3:48 PM
              1. Antiquity is veracity? The Bible does not say that. - Tomas on Aug 24, 2016, 1:21 PM
                1. Re: Antiquity is veracity? The Bible does not say that. - almario on Aug 24, 2016, 5:56 PM
                  1. So just because somebody at the Library of Congress, who understands a little Spanish, - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 8:07 AM
                    1. Re: So just because somebody at the Library of Congress, who understands a little Spanish, - almario on Aug 27, 2016, 6:17 PM
                      1. I am not doubting the integrity of those translators, but that did not make them - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:49 PM
                        1. Re: I am not doubting the integrity of those translators, but that did not make them - almario on Sep 1, 2016, 2:58 AM
                          1. That Wikipedia article confuses the Text Receptus with the Majority Text in Greek. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 2:32 PM
     
  15. Believe Manalo or the bible -Try and read John 1:1-18 View Thread - HiJo on Aug 26, 2016, 4:38 AM
    1. The NIV is a trinitarian Protestant translation. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 7:45 AM
      1. so which translation has "and the word was a god" - hijo on Aug 27, 2016, 9:39 AM
        1. Among translations of the whole Bible, there is the NWT that has it. - Tomas on Aug 31, 2016, 8:59 PM
          1. New world translation - Jehovas Witnesses - HiJo on Sep 1, 2016, 8:00 AM
            1. NWT was published by Jehovah's Witnesses, and is used also at least by True - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 1:32 PM
     
  16. Series 10 - Salvation Frauds of the Iglesia ni Cristo View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 30, 2016, 2:15 PM
  17.  
  18. Series 9 - Salvation Frauds of the Iglesia Ni Cristo View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 28, 2016, 7:11 PM
  19.  
  20. LIES!!! View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 18, 2016, 4:02 PM
    1. It's quite amusing how some ministers have the guts to do this while holding the Bible. - iamonewithGod on Aug 19, 2016, 1:44 AM
      1. if it's lamsa, it might as well be charmin. - chandra on Aug 19, 2016, 2:13 PM
        1. Re: if it's lamsa, it might as well be charmin. - John Snow on Aug 19, 2016, 7:08 PM
      2. IamonewithGod, maybe most of the ministers are not informed that INC borrows money - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 4:52 AM
        1. Yeah right. Only if they ate blind, stupid, and living in a hole in the ground. - Chandra on Aug 20, 2016, 4:37 PM
        2. Like you. - Chandra on Aug 20, 2016, 4:38 PM
          1. I have been informed on this forum that INC borrows money. Surely most INC ministers - Tomas on Aug 24, 2016, 12:52 PM
            1. But they all know about AE, the one who started this mess. - iamonewithGod on Aug 24, 2016, 5:14 PM
              1. Have they all read what AE is writing? Surely not. They are not supposed to read - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 8:11 AM
     
  21.   EVM's INC is World's Widest Door To Destruction View Thread - Sis Lori on Jul 29, 2016, 5:06 PM
    1. You are being so negative. - Tomas on Jul 30, 2016, 6:04 AM
      1. Tomas, give examples of things profited from INC - Sis Lori on Jul 30, 2016, 11:35 AM
        1. I got to know the Bible better. - Tomas on Jul 30, 2016, 12:27 PM
          1. Wait... you got convincing evidence that celebrating Mother's Day is not a sin from INC? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 1, 2016, 5:17 PM
            1. They're contradicting themselves - iamonewithGod on Aug 1, 2016, 10:15 PM
            2. I got that evidence from INC years ago. I stopped attending INC worship before - Tomas on Aug 3, 2016, 7:44 AM
    2. Tomas, You were defrauded by INC - Sis Lori on Jul 30, 2016, 5:25 PM
      1. I was not defrauded. I accepted what looks biblical, and rejected what looks unbiblical. - Tomas on Jul 31, 2016, 5:37 AM
        1. Re: Catholic church has much more incorrect doctrines than the INC - Coffeemaker on Jul 31, 2016, 7:37 AM
          1. Yes, really. Like that Mary the mother of Jesus was sinless, even though - Tomas on Aug 1, 2016, 2:59 AM
            1. I find no fault whatever in Mary - Coffeemaker on Aug 1, 2016, 2:56 PM
              1. She was born without faith. So she was born sinful and unsaved. - Tomas on Aug 3, 2016, 7:48 AM
                1. Born without faith? - Coffeemaker on Aug 4, 2016, 7:52 PM
                  1. Yes, like all babies except Jesus, she was born knowing nothing about God, - Tomas on Aug 6, 2016, 8:16 AM
                    1. Mary born agnostic? Try the jews and muslim on this Tomas! - Coffeemaker on Aug 8, 2016, 9:43 AM
                      1. I don't care if Jews think Mary was born Jewish, and Muslims think she was born Muslim. - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 9:24 AM
                    2. What about John the Baptist? Also born knowing nothing about God? - Coffeemaker on Aug 10, 2016, 1:36 PM
                      1. You are surely referring to the fact that he jumped for joy as a fetus. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 5:08 AM
          2. Re: Catholic church has much more incorrect doctrines than the INC - John Snow on Aug 1, 2016, 6:22 PM
            1. You got 2 error doctrines of INC. I agree, the Bible does not mention Felix Manalo - Tomas on Aug 3, 2016, 7:58 AM
              1. Re: You got 2 error doctrines of INC. I agree, the Bible does not mention Felix Manalo - almario on Aug 6, 2016, 5:46 PM
                1. But INC members are not led by blind Pharisees, but by knowing preachers - Tomas on Aug 7, 2016, 4:21 AM
                  1. Re: But INC members are not led by blind Pharisees, but by knowing preachers - almario on Aug 7, 2016, 1:14 PM
                    1. It is not like in a false gospel, where the leaders are blind. - Tomas on Aug 8, 2016, 6:37 AM
                      1. Re: It is not like in a false gospel, where the leaders are blind. - almario on Aug 8, 2016, 8:22 AM
                        1. The Christian gospel is true. - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 9:28 AM
                          1. Re: The Christian gospel is true. - almario on Aug 10, 2016, 6:29 PM
                            1. You are repeating yourself. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 5:10 AM
                      2. Re: It is not like in a false gospel, where the leaders are blind. - almario on Aug 8, 2016, 6:28 PM
                        1. No church can be infallible in all its teachings. But God loves all churches which preach - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 9:37 AM
                          1. Re: No church can be infallible in all its teachings. But God loves all churches which preach - almario on Aug 10, 2016, 6:08 PM
                            1. You are totally wrong when you claim I have two Gods aside from the Savior - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 5:32 AM
                              1. Re: You are totally wrong when you claim I have two Gods aside from the Savior - almario on Aug 13, 2016, 3:06 PM
                                1. I did not say that INC water baptism remits sins. Only the baptism with the Holy Spirit - Tomas on Aug 15, 2016, 3:29 AM
                                2. Re: I did not say that INC water baptism remits sins. Only the baptism with the Holy Spirit - almario on Aug 15, 2016, 3:55 AM
                                3. Mt. 28:19 is about water baptism, because it is about baptism Christians do to each - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 2:48 PM
                                4. Re: Mt. 28:19 is about water baptism, because it is about baptism Christians do to each - almario on Aug 17, 2016, 4:50 PM
                                5. When the apostles baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the HS, they - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 6:08 AM
                                6. Re: When the apostles baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the HS, they - almario on Aug 20, 2016, 3:35 PM
                                7. I am running around the bush? I am saying very clearly that water baptism does not remit - Tomas on Aug 24, 2016, 1:27 PM
                                8. Re: I am running around the bush? I am saying very clearly that water baptism does not remit - almario on Aug 24, 2016, 4:32 PM
     
  22. Lord of the Dims View Thread - HiJo on Aug 24, 2016, 2:17 AM
    1. Ooooh we hates it - Gollum on Aug 24, 2016, 2:19 AM
     
  23. Series 8 - Salvation Frauds of the Iglesia ni Cristo View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 23, 2016, 3:36 PM
    1. Cyrus! - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 23, 2016, 5:49 PM
     
  24. The one true church are so wonderful View Thread - Jenny Manalo on Aug 22, 2016, 10:12 AM
    1. EVM's INC Bearing Bad Fruit - Sis Lori on Aug 23, 2016, 12:52 PM
     
  25. Uplifting sermon - Cremation View Thread - Hijo on Aug 22, 2016, 7:11 AM
    1. Minister messed up - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 22, 2016, 4:53 PM
      1. Unquestioning obedience of the well trained cult members - HiJo on Aug 23, 2016, 3:43 AM
     
  26. Series 7 - Salvation Frauds of the Iglesia ni Cristo View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 14, 2016, 1:46 AM
    1. Yes fraud after fraud and method - Hijo on Aug 14, 2016, 2:27 PM
    2. You are being so picky. The main thing is that INC is preaching the gospel. - Tomas on Aug 15, 2016, 3:24 AM
      1. Re: You are being so picky. The main thing is that INC is preaching the gospel. - John Snow on Aug 15, 2016, 6:06 AM
        1. Good question but dont hold you breath waiting for an INC - hijo on Aug 15, 2016, 11:44 AM
        2. Re: You are being so picky. The main thing is that INC is preaching the gospel. - John Snow on Aug 16, 2016, 5:54 PM
          1. The gospel is the doctrines which have to be known in order to be saved, like - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 1:01 PM
            1. Re: The gospel is the doctrines which have to be known in order to be saved, like - John Snow on Aug 17, 2016, 2:01 PM
              1. I do not pick and choose, I go by the verses that say by this or that doctrine we are - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 2:31 PM
                1. Re: I do not pick and choose, I go by the verses that say by this or that doctrine we are - John Snow on Aug 19, 2016, 7:15 PM
                  1. I believe in the entire Bible. But I don't remember everything in the Bible. - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 5:27 AM
      2. Are you sure about the main thing? - hijo on Aug 15, 2016, 11:37 AM
        1. Of course they do have a fault that they are, like a few other churches, totally - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 1:20 PM
      3. Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much - Coffeemaker on Aug 15, 2016, 3:28 PM
        1. God trusts and loves all saved Christians. So if a Christian falls into sin, he better - Tomas on Aug 17, 2016, 1:24 PM
     
  27. Joel San Foolisho (Pedro) View Thread - John Snow on Aug 16, 2016, 6:25 PM
    1. Re: Joel San Foolisho (Pedro) - John Snow on Aug 16, 2016, 6:40 PM
    2. They are like annoying kids who like to whine/complain/b*tch to their moms. - iamonewithGod on Aug 16, 2016, 10:37 PM
      1. Guilty as Charged - Kim Jong I on Aug 17, 2016, 8:50 AM
     
  28. Sydney was great! I loved the food at the 5 star restaurants and oh the shopping! View Thread - EVM on Aug 14, 2016, 4:59 PM
    1. Thanks to all you minions for all that money you give me to fly around being fat! - EVM on Aug 14, 2016, 6:38 PM
      1. I'm still afraid of polar vortexes you know. THANK GOD for my airbus! - EVM on Aug 14, 2016, 6:39 PM
        1. Although I don't know why I should be afraid. I'm the MOST IMPORTANT MAN in the world! - EVM on Aug 14, 2016, 6:40 PM
          1. GOD SHOULD PROTECT ME from polar vortexes, shouldn't he? And bees, and bad bananas..... - EVM on Aug 14, 2016, 6:40 PM
     
  29. crack head! worst case of sour grape I've even seen. View Thread - sonwil! on Aug 2, 2016, 2:37 PM
    1. You arent referring to my wife or her sis! They love JESUS God in the FLESH - Eric on Aug 3, 2016, 12:31 AM
      1. It's great that they love Jesus, but it's wrong to be dogmatic that he is God. - Tomas on Aug 3, 2016, 5:13 AM
        1. Not for us to know? Where u learn that? - Eric on Aug 3, 2016, 12:40 PM
          1. Luke 10:22, Jesus said "No one knows who the Son is, except the Father". - Tomas on Aug 6, 2016, 9:00 AM
            1. Re: Luke 10:22, Jesus said "No one knows who the Son is, except the Father". - almario on Aug 6, 2016, 5:32 PM
              1. The verses you quote are right, but I suspect you are misinterpreting them. - Tomas on Aug 7, 2016, 4:27 AM
                1. Re: The verses you quote are right, but I suspect you are misinterpreting them. - almario on Aug 7, 2016, 1:09 PM
                  1. It is not written in the Bible that God manifested himself in the flesh. - Tomas on Aug 8, 2016, 6:51 AM
                    1. Re: It is not written in the Bible that God manifested himself in the flesh. - almario on Aug 8, 2016, 8:18 AM
                      1. Yes, I am sure about it, - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 9:44 AM
                        1. Re: Yes, I am sure about it, - almario on Aug 10, 2016, 8:44 PM
                          1. The husband and wife don't know everything about each other, but they should still - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 5:01 AM
                    2. Re: It is not written in the Bible that God manifested himself in the flesh. - John Snow on Aug 8, 2016, 6:19 PM
                      1. What do you mean by saying face palm? - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 9:45 AM
     
  30. Series 6 - Salvation Frauds of the Iglesia ni Cristo View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 7, 2016, 1:02 PM
    1. At least the INC is teaching the true gospel, unlike the JW, who violate Rev. 22:18-19. - Tomas on Aug 8, 2016, 7:32 AM
      1. Re: At least the INC is teaching the true gospel, unlike the JW, who violate Rev. 22:18-19. - almario on Aug 8, 2016, 1:17 PM
        1. So INC is wrong that those out of INC will burn in hell. If they are saved, - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 10:05 AM
      2. True gospel? Like.. - iamonewithGod on Aug 8, 2016, 4:08 PM
        1. Re: True gospel? Like.. - John Snow on Aug 8, 2016, 6:18 PM
          1. Yes, they do some bad sins. But when saved people do sins out of ignorance, - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 10:16 AM
        2. IamonewithGod, of course such acts are bad, but they have nothing to do with the gospel. - Tomas on Aug 10, 2016, 10:08 AM
     
  31. What's frustrating to butthurts? INC uses the Opera House while they can only dream lolz View Thread - will on Aug 9, 2016, 4:56 AM
    1. Don't Boast About the Opera House - Kim Jong Il on Aug 9, 2016, 7:50 AM
      1. Or maybe another Airbus, perhaps? - iamonewithGod on Aug 9, 2016, 4:12 PM
     
  32. Wilson's butt still hurts from being used by evm. LOL! View Thread - Chandra on Aug 9, 2016, 6:48 AM
  33.  
  34. Manalos pick - Duterte View Thread - Hijo on Aug 2, 2016, 11:34 PM
    1. This my theory why INC chose Duterte - iamonewithGod on Aug 3, 2016, 5:04 AM
      1. More likely - HiJo on Aug 3, 2016, 11:06 AM
        1. Yeah, but still, with a glimmer of hope.. - iamonewithGod on Aug 3, 2016, 10:19 PM
          1. Maybe but looks more like the same old - HiJo on Aug 4, 2016, 4:37 AM
        2. INC follows the polls - FormerINCRegularWorker on Aug 8, 2016, 5:48 AM
    2. Body Count Rises - Coffeemaker on Aug 3, 2016, 11:59 AM
    3. EVM Backs Donald Trump - Kim Jong Il on Aug 4, 2016, 12:02 AM
      1. I would love to see evm try to support Trump with bloc voting. And lose! - chandra on Aug 4, 2016, 12:03 AM
      2. Donald Trump to EVM: "Who the heck are you?" - iamonewithGod on Aug 4, 2016, 12:11 AM
        1. He would probably "build a WALL" around all the locales. - chandra on Aug 4, 2016, 12:23 AM
        2. Donald Trump no time for Manalo and his kind - HiJo on Aug 4, 2016, 4:41 AM
          1. Re: Donald Trump no time for Manalo and his kind - John Snow on Aug 4, 2016, 6:35 AM
        3. As soon as Donald Trump finds out that EVM is not white, he won't like him. - Tomas on Aug 6, 2016, 8:31 AM
      3. INC doesn't endorse candidates anymore in US - FormerINCRegularWorker on Aug 8, 2016, 5:45 AM
     
 
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