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  1. Iglesia ni Cristo in a nutshell - Doctrines exposed sticky (152 replies) View Thread - Cultic Research on Aug 18, 2005, 9:54 PM
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  3. Infidel View Thread - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 26, 2017, 11:23 PM
    1. We are of the same thought... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 27, 2017, 12:10 AM
      1. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 27, 2017, 2:32 AM
        1. The Bible is perfectly compatible with scientific discoveries. You need to realize - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 4:48 AM
          1. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 28, 2017, 11:10 PM
            1. The Bible is not intended for scientific information, but for doctrinal information. - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 2:29 PM
        2. What made you stop believing? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 27, 2017, 4:55 PM
          1. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 27, 2017, 5:52 PM
            1. Wow, Holy Warrior. That is extreme. INC sure has deteriorated. - Tomas on Jul 28, 2017, 4:50 AM
    2. I am not quite a non believer - Deacon646 on Jul 27, 2017, 2:19 AM
      1. Yes, INC has made a big mistake by believing in the literal Noah's flood. - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:07 AM
        1. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 27, 2017, 6:56 AM
          1. I'm going to check out that movie... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 27, 2017, 2:08 PM
          2. Those Christians who believe the universe is just a few thousand years old are guilty - Tomas on Jul 28, 2017, 4:56 AM
            1. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 28, 2017, 10:31 PM
              1. I want to say that Muslims do not have a dogma about how old is the universe. - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 3:02 PM
        2. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 27, 2017, 6:23 PM
          1. Regardless of the reasons for false religions, God has revealed to us the true religion - Tomas on Jul 28, 2017, 5:01 AM
            1. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 28, 2017, 6:18 PM
              1. It is sad that many Christians have misinterpreted the Bible, claiming it does not teach - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 3:27 PM
                1. Infidel - Pag-IbigSaWika on Jul 31, 2017, 6:27 PM
                  1. I guess the average Protestant or Evangelical would not view me as one of them, - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 7:43 AM
                    1. Manmade Fiction - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 5, 2017, 8:11 PM
                      1. You have no scientific proof that the Bible is just man-made and not the word of God. - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 2:58 AM
                        1. Wow... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 7, 2017, 11:47 AM
                          1. OK, the pages of the book are man-made, but the words of the Bible are inspired - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 7:20 PM
                            1. It's easy to write about something after the fact... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 9, 2017, 9:01 PM
                              1. What can you expect? When Jesus was going around preaching, he just had a - Tomas on Aug 10, 2017, 8:11 AM
                        2. Manmade Fiction - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 11, 2017, 4:29 AM
                          1. The Bible predicted in the Old Testament the coming of the Messiah. - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:32 AM
                            1. Genocide & Ethnic Cleansing - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 11, 2017, 5:50 PM
                              1. The Bible does not teach anything like sex slaves, it is not like in the Qur'an, - Tomas on Aug 12, 2017, 6:56 PM
                        3. Scientific Proof - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 16, 2017, 1:39 AM
                          1. The oldest game of telephone... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 16, 2017, 6:48 PM
                          2. Some archaeologists do believe in the exodus. They found for example the destruction of - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 12:06 AM
                            1. Battle of Jericho - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 18, 2017, 5:53 PM
                              1. You know about Caesar's Messiah? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 18, 2017, 7:12 PM
                              2. Most legends have some basis in fact - Deacon646 on Aug 18, 2017, 8:08 PM
                                1. The Israelites - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 18, 2017, 10:12 PM
      2. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Jul 27, 2017, 6:29 AM
        1. I don't think its necessarily more palatable - Deacon646 on Jul 27, 2017, 2:43 PM
          1. It's so convenient that God is invisible... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 27, 2017, 3:01 PM
            1. I am not sure about the ancient aliens theory - Deacon646 on Jul 27, 2017, 5:17 PM
              1. They interacted what they THOUGHT was God.... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 27, 2017, 8:37 PM
                1. Aliens - deacon646 on Jul 28, 2017, 3:29 AM
                  1. Yes... those types of gods - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 28, 2017, 11:55 AM
                    1. Stories about what gods did were often passed from tribe to tribe, due to contact, - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 3:52 PM
                      1. I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 29, 2017, 4:25 PM
                        1. I don't want to waste time watching some show Ancient Aliens. I don't even know - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 4:44 PM
                          1. Oh, now your an expert in translating ancient Sumerian? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 29, 2017, 10:31 PM
                            1. I am not an expert in translating Sumerian, but I can rely on the consensus of experts. - Tomas on Jul 31, 2017, 2:57 AM
                          2. Just watch clips on youtube... you'll get the idea. - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 29, 2017, 10:32 PM
        2. Atheist Definition - Deacon646 on Jul 27, 2017, 2:58 PM
          1. Re: Atheist Definition - almario on Jul 28, 2017, 4:30 AM
            1. Re: Atheist Definition - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 2:51 PM
              1. When hell is used to translate the Greek word hades, then all who die go to hell. - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:31 PM
                1. Strange the concept of Hell is never mentioned in the old testament.. - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 5, 2017, 3:44 PM
                  1. In some Bible translations, for example KJV, hell is often used in the Old Testament - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:58 PM
     
  4. Almario, since that thread on Jesus' resurrection is locked now, I urge you to learn View Thread - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 4:19 AM
    1. Re: Almario, since that thread on Jesus' resurrection is locked now, I urge you to learn - almario on Aug 14, 2017, 4:28 PM
      1. God resurrected Jesus Christ, Rom. 10:9. Do you believe it truly happened? - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 12:43 AM
        1. Re: God resurrected Jesus Christ, Rom. 10:9. Do you believe it truly happened? - almario on Aug 17, 2017, 3:28 AM
          1. God has not two gods, but millions of gods, see John 10:35, true gods are those - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:39 AM
            1. Re: God has not two gods, but millions of gods, see John 10:35, true gods are those - almario on Aug 18, 2017, 4:55 PM
     
  5. Need questions... can you answer this question Tomas? Give me questions... View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 17, 2017, 9:00 PM
    1. You could have a little fun with him - Deacon646 on Aug 17, 2017, 10:51 PM
      1. When I discussed doctrines with that INC minister about ten years ago, he told - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 5:37 AM
        1. At least you made sense in this post... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 18, 2017, 2:11 PM
    2. Iam1plus1plus1, I think that 10,000 years ago, Adam was not yet created. - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 5:50 AM
      1. So you believe Adam was created 6000 years ago... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 18, 2017, 2:10 PM
     
  6. Why wont common sense prevail View Thread - HiJo on Aug 17, 2017, 1:49 AM
    1. There will be an angel from the east, so it is not absurd. But it won't be a Manalo. - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:41 AM
      1. wrong...isaiah 43 refers to ISRAEL!!!!!! - james on Aug 18, 2017, 1:56 PM
        1. angel from the east Rev 7.2 is not MANALO! - james on Aug 18, 2017, 2:00 PM
     
  7. Idiomatic translation John 1:1-14 View Thread - Wayne on Jun 29, 2017, 4:09 AM
    1. I guess when a more literal translation would not give the right result, then let's resort - Tomas on Jun 29, 2017, 4:42 AM
      1. "SEARCHING THE SCRIPTURES" - almario on Jul 2, 2017, 9:33 PM
        1. Re: "SEARCHING THE SCRIPTURES"- with correction - almario on Jul 2, 2017, 9:42 PM
          1. Yes, we can ask God for wisdom, but we can't ask him for revelation, - Tomas on Jul 3, 2017, 6:21 AM
            1. Re: Yes, we can ask God for wisdom, but we can't ask him for revelation, - almario on Jul 3, 2017, 2:22 PM
              1. No revelation today, since the Bible is finished. So the revelation of God for totay - Tomas on Jul 5, 2017, 1:30 PM
                1. Re: No revelation today, since the Bible is finished. So the revelation of God for totay - almario on Jul 5, 2017, 4:47 PM
                  1. Of course when Jesus spoke in Mt. 11:25 and similarly in Lk. 10:21, the Bible was not yet - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 7:25 AM
                    1. Re: Of course when Jesus spoke in Mt. 11:25 and similarly in Lk. 10:21, the Bible was not yet - almario on Jul 7, 2017, 5:30 PM
                      1. When these verses were written, the Bible was not yet finished, so revelation was still - Tomas on Jul 8, 2017, 2:13 PM
                        1. Re: When these verses were written, the Bible was not yet finished, so revelation was still - almario on Jul 8, 2017, 6:47 PM
                          1. Yes, good, so we should retain God in our knowledge, so that God would not give us - Tomas on Jul 10, 2017, 2:37 AM
                            1. Re: Yes, good, so we should retain God in our knowledge, so that God would not give us - almario on Jul 12, 2017, 2:04 PM
                              1. Don't worry, I'm not abrogating Thomas's absolute acceptance of his Lord and God - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 4:05 PM
                                1. Re: Don't worry, I'm not abrogating Thomas's absolute acceptance of his Lord and God - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 7:53 PM
                                2. So where do you think I was wrong? I believe I was right in all I said. - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:29 PM
                                3. Re: So where do you think I was wrong? I believe I was right in all I said. - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 4:07 PM
                                4. Yes, I do believe that the one and only God Savior, our Father, manifested in - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 4:38 PM
                                5. Re: Yes, I do believe that the one and only God Savior, our Father, manifested in - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 10:17 PM
                                6. In John 8:24 Jesus was not referring to being God, but to what he had said before, - Tomas on Jul 16, 2017, 10:21 AM
                                7. Re: In John 8:24 Jesus was not referring to being God, but to what he had said before, - almario on Jul 16, 2017, 4:14 PM
                                8. There are many males who say correctly "I am he", as Jesus said. - Tomas on Jul 17, 2017, 3:53 AM
                                9. Re: There are many males who say correctly "I am he", as Jesus said. - almario on Jul 17, 2017, 6:29 PM
                                10. There is no verse saying that no two can say "I am he". - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 8:07 PM
                                11. Re: There is no verse saying that no two can say "I am he". - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 9:07 PM
                                12. Yes, there is one God Savior that manifested in the flesh of Jesus Christ. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 6:08 AM
                                13. Re: Yes, there is one God Savior that manifested in the flesh of Jesus Christ. - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 8:07 PM
                                14. Of course the formerly blind man said, I am he, meaning he was the man who used to - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:12 AM
                                15. Re: Of course the formerly blind man said, I am he, meaning he was the man who used to - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:13 PM
                                16. I will probably still be saved when I die, unless maybe I get such severe dementia - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 1:57 PM
                                17. Re: I will probably still be saved when I die, unless maybe I get such severe dementia - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 4:33 PM
                                18. How could 1 John 4:1-3 judge me negatively? I certainly believe and confess that - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:48 AM
                                19. Re: How could 1 John 4:1-3 judge me negatively? I certainly believe and confess that - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 1:56 PM
                                20. The Father manifested in the flesh as he was dwelling in the flesh of Jesus Christ. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:29 PM
                                21. Re: The Father manifested in the flesh as he was dwelling in the flesh of Jesus Christ. - almario on Jul 26, 2017, 7:29 PM
                                22. God did not die on the cross, God cannot die, he is immortal and always was - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:22 AM
                                23. Re: God did not die on the cross, God cannot die, he is immortal and always was - almario on Jul 27, 2017, 6:51 PM
                                24. The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, which mandated - Tomas on Jul 28, 2017, 5:19 AM
                                25. Re: The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, which mandated - almario on Jul 28, 2017, 3:52 PM
                                26. OK, so this printing did not italicize 'of God' in 1 John 3:16. That was very bad, - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 4:34 PM
                                27. Re: OK, so this printing did not italicize 'of God' in 1 John 3:16. That was very bad, - almario on Jul 29, 2017, 8:11 PM
                                28. Biased KJV? They just put in italics what should have been put in italics originally. - Tomas on Jul 31, 2017, 2:50 AM
                                29. Re: OK, so this printing did not italicize 'of God' in 1 John 3:16. That was very bad, - almario on Jul 30, 2017, 4:23 PM
                                30. Yes, what is in KJV is sometimes lost in translation. It is good to check the - Tomas on Jul 31, 2017, 2:52 AM
                                31. Re: Yes, what is in KJV is sometimes lost in translation. It is good to check the - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 8:20 AM
                                32. I did study ancient Greek at Queens College. So I know understand some of it, - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 8:02 AM
                                33. Re: Yes, what is in KJV is sometimes lost in translation. It is good to check the - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 3:50 PM
                                34. Translations to Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic? Books like Mark, Luke, John etc. - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 8:06 AM
                                35. Re: Translations to Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic? Books like Mark, Luke, John etc. - almario on Aug 3, 2017, 6:32 PM
                                36. So do not follow human philosophies, such as the philosophical idea that Christ - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:21 AM
                                37. Re: So do not follow human philosophies, such as the philosophical idea that Christ - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 6:44 PM
                                38. God is in Jesus, so this way God manifested in the flesh. But the Bible does not - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:39 PM
                                39. Re: God is in Jesus, so this way God manifested in the flesh. But the Bible does not - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 7:20 PM
                                40. The Bible teaches soul sleep, it teaches that souls die and are asleep. - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 3:03 AM
                                41. Re: The Bible teaches soul sleep, it teaches that souls die and are asleep. - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 5:20 PM
                                42. ? I certainly do not believe that the souls of the unsaved dead are suffering in hell. - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:26 PM
                                43. Re: ? I certainly do not believe that the souls of the unsaved dead are suffering in hell. - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 4:41 AM
                                44. Good verses, but what do they have to do with the topic at hand? - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:34 AM
                                45. Re: Good verses, but what do they have to do with the topic at hand? - almario on Aug 12, 2017, 5:15 AM
                                46. You misinterpret Heb. 9:27 similarly as many other Christians, including INC. - Tomas on Aug 12, 2017, 6:34 PM
                                47. Re: You misinterpret Heb. 9:27 similarly as many other Christians, including INC. - almario on Aug 13, 2017, 3:14 AM
                                48. Of course I do my best to learn God's doctrine, and so should you. - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 4:15 AM
                                49. Re: Of course I do my best to learn God's doctrine, and so should you. - almario on Aug 14, 2017, 6:51 PM
                                50. You still do not accept God's doctrine about Heb. 9:7, about this judgment. - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 12:39 AM
                                51. Re: You still do not accept God's doctrine about Heb. 9:7, about this judgment. - almario on Aug 17, 2017, 3:40 AM
                                52. Re: You still do not accept God's doctrine about Heb. 9:7, about this judgment. - almario on Aug 17, 2017, 4:50 AM
                                53. OK, Heb. 9:27, I mistyped it. Anyway, the judgment in Heb. 9:27 will last 1000 - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:34 AM
     
  8. Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 26-A View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 12, 2017, 7:07 PM
    1. Hurry, copy this INC expose before EVM order it erased - Sis Lori on Aug 13, 2017, 3:33 AM
      1. INC does not teach a false Christ. It is a twisting of their statements to claim - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 4:12 AM
        1. Tomas, looks you didnt digest the CR piece - Sis Lori on Aug 15, 2017, 5:13 PM
          1. We enter Jesus Christ by being added to the church, when we believe and repent, - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 12:11 AM
            1. Your faith also is EVM's INC - Sis Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 11:01 AM
              1. No, biblically, when we enter Christ, we are added to the church, sometimes called - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:29 AM
     
  9. Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 26-B View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 12, 2017, 7:11 PM
    1. Hurry, copy this conclusion of Part 26 - Sis Lori on Aug 13, 2017, 3:39 AM
      1. You are unwittingly defaming God like INC does, when you teach eternal suffering - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 3:52 AM
        1. Hey Tomas, I'm only reprinting CR's piece - Sis Lori on Aug 15, 2017, 4:54 PM
          1. 1 Peter 3:19 does not teach preaching for possible conversion. It teaches Christ - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 12:30 AM
            1. What's Jesus' purpose in preaching to spirits in prison? - Sis Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 11:14 AM
              1. The Bible does not say, but we can guess Jesus preached to them about the judgment - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:21 AM
     
  10. Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 25-A View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 16, 2017, 6:01 AM
    1. Quick, get your flash drive and capture this series! - Sis Lori on Aug 16, 2017, 8:39 PM
      1. Each Christian is not a church. The word church translates Greek ekklesia, which means - Tomas on Aug 16, 2017, 11:49 PM
        1. Every Christian is a church or temple or building of God; two or more Christians - Sis Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 12:12 PM
          1. Every Christian is a temple of God, sure, but not God's ekklesia, church. - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:15 AM
     
  11. Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 25-B View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 16, 2017, 6:06 AM
    1. Quick, get you flash drive and capture this series! - Sis Lori on Aug 16, 2017, 8:42 PM
      1. Water baptism in the name of the 3 is not necessary for salvation. - Tomas on Aug 16, 2017, 11:55 PM
        1. Words of Jesus are living water (Jn. 4:10) - Sis Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 12:42 PM
          1. Water baptism is called a burial, so it needs to be done by immersion, not sprinkling. - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 7:03 AM
     
  12. Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 24-B View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 2:49 PM
    1. Left out Quiz for CR Series Part 24-B - Sis Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 2:53 PM
    2. Lori, not believing the Holy Spirit is a member of a Trinity can't be blasphemy - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 6:33 AM
     
  13. Tom'sOwnDocs View Thread - almario on Aug 13, 2017, 5:11 PM
    1. Of course all churches that use the Bible are right about some doctrines, but - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 3:23 AM
      1. Re: Of course all churches that use the Bible are right about some doctrines, but - almario on Aug 15, 2017, 1:11 AM
        1. God expects us to have our own doctrines, as none of us can understand the Bible perfectly - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 12:34 AM
          1. Re: God expects us to have our own doctrines, as none of us can understand the Bible perfectly - almario on Aug 17, 2017, 5:03 AM
            1. Don't worry, I did heed God's words to be converted to become as a little child - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 5:53 AM
          2. Re: God expects us to have our own doctrines, as none of us can understand the Bible perfectly - almario on Aug 17, 2017, 5:56 PM
            1. I abide in the doctrine of Christ, the whole gospel, so I am saved. - Tomas on Aug 18, 2017, 5:56 AM
     
  14. Count Down of Cultic Research Series Part 24-A View Thread - Lori on Aug 17, 2017, 2:22 PM
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  16. Question: Why did JOSE argue about the thief and JESUS being in paradise? View Thread - Eric on Jul 19, 2017, 5:52 PM
    1. Re: Question: Why did JOSE argue about the thief and JESUS being in paradise? - John Snow on Jul 20, 2017, 3:33 AM
      1. Jesus was not in paradise immediately after death, he was in the tomb. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:47 AM
        1. Re: Jesus was not in paradise immediately after death, he was in the tomb. - Jezz on Aug 7, 2017, 4:48 PM
          1. Greek manuscripts in the first century did not use commas. So then we have to insert - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:35 PM
            1. Re: Greek manuscripts in the first century did not use commas. So then we have to insert - John Snow on Aug 13, 2017, 7:43 PM
              1. I believe the paradise Jesus was talking about to the repentant thief is the kingdom - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 3:14 AM
                1. Re: I believe the paradise Jesus was talking about to the repentant thief is the kingdom - John Snow on Aug 14, 2017, 5:11 AM
                  1. 1 Peter 3:18 says Jesus was raised in the Spirit. The next verse says he preached - Tomas on Aug 17, 2017, 1:13 AM
     
  17. Isn't the Church against being gay? View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 14, 2017, 4:08 PM
    1. Re: Isn't the Church against being gay? - John Snow on Aug 15, 2017, 5:51 AM
     
  18. EVM's INC Vs NVM's INC View Thread - Sis Lori on Aug 12, 2017, 6:58 PM
    1. The Nathaniel Angel V. Manalo you mention sure does not have any power to - Tomas on Aug 12, 2017, 7:06 PM
      1. Thousands of young INCs leaving Cain's INC - Sis Lori on Aug 13, 2017, 3:18 AM
        1. Young people - Hijo on Aug 14, 2017, 7:23 AM
    2. Historically, this is fairly typical - Deacon646 on Aug 12, 2017, 9:53 PM
      1. I remember when EVM's minions on social media rejoiced when Fruto and Villocino died. - iamonewithGod on Aug 13, 2017, 10:49 PM
        1. Any Christian - Deacon646 on Aug 14, 2017, 12:17 AM
          1. Of course we should wish even evil people to be converted, but still it is a historical - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 2:00 AM
     
  19. Pope as Anti-Christ View Thread - Wayne on Jun 29, 2017, 4:01 AM
    1. That is ingenious thinking. I guess some antichrists would want to substitute - Tomas on Jun 29, 2017, 5:00 AM
    2. Worship Defintion - Deacon646 on Jun 29, 2017, 11:51 AM
    3. Trust an INC to come up with that - Hijo on Jun 30, 2017, 4:13 AM
    4. Related link - Wayne on Jul 7, 2017, 3:41 AM
      1. Quite many biblical scholars are agreed that John meant the number 666 to represent - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 6:16 AM
        1. Now considered spurious - Wayne on Aug 4, 2017, 4:18 AM
          1. Whether or not Nero blamed the Christians for the fire, he was responsible for - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 5:05 AM
          2. Persecution of Christians in Rome - Deacon646 on Aug 13, 2017, 7:04 PM
            1. Good comment, except that Nero was not hated by Christians, Jesus teaches us - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 3:17 AM
              1. Jesus may teach that - Deacon646 on Aug 14, 2017, 3:24 AM
                1. They called him a beast, but still loved him and prayed for him. But he was beastly. - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 3:53 AM
    5. They could not buy or sell anything unless - Wayne on Jul 27, 2017, 4:17 AM
      1. Well, the mark on the right hand OR the forehead was not the sign of the cross. - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 4:34 AM
        1. Did you read fully my post? - Wayne on Aug 4, 2017, 4:20 AM
          1. Yes, I did read it fully. But that INC minister taught me it represents the sign of the - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 5:25 AM
            1. Mark of the Beast - Deacon646 on Aug 12, 2017, 10:26 PM
              1. Exactly. I think the mark of the beast was allegiance to Nero. - Tomas on Aug 14, 2017, 3:20 AM
     
  20.   Almario, since that thread is locked, I agree that we can ask God for wisdom, but View Thread - Tomas on Jun 16, 2017, 7:17 AM
    1. Re: Almario, since that thread is locked, I agree that we can ask God for wisdom, but - almario on Jun 16, 2017, 8:26 PM
      1. The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - Tomas on Jun 17, 2017, 3:35 PM
        1. Re: The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - almario on Jun 18, 2017, 4:24 AM
          1. Re: The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - almario on Jun 18, 2017, 3:32 PM
            1. Re: The Bible is clear that there will come a time when we will be instructed by God, - almario on Jun 18, 2017, 11:59 PM
              1. Some people think the Bible reveals everything about God. But it does not. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2017, 5:52 AM
                1. Re: Some people think the Bible reveals everything about God. But it does not. - almario on Jun 19, 2017, 2:30 PM
                  1. Of course I recognize who God is, that he is he, the Almighty, and I recognize - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:45 AM
                    1. Re: Of course I recognize who God is, that he is he, the Almighty, and I recognize - almario on Jun 22, 2017, 2:25 AM
                      1. Jesus spoke to unbelievers in parables, but that was because it was not time yet - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:35 AM
                        1. Re: Jesus spoke to unbelievers in parables, but that was because it was not time yet - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:06 PM
                          1. You are going beyond what is written when you call John of Revelation apostle John. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:26 PM
                            1. Re: You are going beyond what is written when you call John of Revelation apostle John. - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 7:31 PM
                              1. John the apostle wrote the gospel of John and 3 epistles of John. But the book of - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:19 AM
                                1. Re: John the apostle wrote the gospel of John and 3 epistles of John. But the book of - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 4:49 PM
                                2. Yes, Jesus was right in John 12:48, those who reject him and receive not his words, - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 4:05 AM
                                3. Re: Yes, Jesus was right in John 12:48, those who reject him and receive not his words, - almario on Jul 6, 2017, 6:39 PM
                                4. Athanasius was too divisive at the council of Nicea. He wanted the Catholic church - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 6:51 AM
                                5. Re: Athanasius was too divisive at the council of Nicea. He wanted the Catholic church - almario on Jul 7, 2017, 8:31 PM
                                6. Good verses. Heed them. - Tomas on Jul 8, 2017, 2:08 PM
                                7. Re: Good verses. Heed them. - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:29 PM
                                8. God owns his doctrines, we don't. I never claimed I own God's doctrines. - Tomas on Jul 14, 2017, 5:23 AM
                                9. Re: God owns his doctrines, we don't. I never claimed I own God's doctrines. - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 8:59 PM
                                10. Each Christian has his own doctrines, which is the best he can do in grasping - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:19 PM
                                11. Re: Each Christian has his own doctrines, which is the best he can do in grasping - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:57 PM
                                12. Yes, we have to search the scriptures, and try to understand them the best we can. - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 4:03 PM
                                13. Re: Yes, we have to search the scriptures, and try to understand them the best we can. - almario on Jul 18, 2017, 1:32 AM
                                14. Of course we can understand some doctrine, but not all the Bible. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 8:05 PM
                                15. Re: Of course we can understand some doctrine, but not all the Bible. - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 9:25 PM
                                16. The first of all the commandments is in Mark 12:29-30: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:59 AM
                                17. Re: The first of all the commandments is in Mark 12:29-30: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 8:54 PM
                                18. I do my best to obey all the commandments, as best as I can understand them. - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:07 AM
                                19. Re: I do my best to obey all the commandments, as best as I can understand them. - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:18 PM
                                20. OK, for instance it has happened even since I got saved, that a few times - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 1:53 PM
                                21. Re: OK, for instance it has happened even since I got saved, that a few times - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 5:49 PM
                                22. Yes, when we sin, we must repent, or else we lose salvation, see - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:33 AM
                                23. Re: Yes, when we sin, we must repent, or else we lose salvation, see - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 2:46 PM
                                24. Of course remission of sins is necessary. And it happens when we believe and repent - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:20 PM
                                25. Re: Of course remission of sins is necessary. And it happens when we believe and repent - almario on Jul 26, 2017, 7:49 PM
                                26. For example in 9th grade I beat up terribly a classmate who was supposed to be - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:15 AM
                                27. Re: For example in 9th grade I beat up terribly a classmate who was supposed to be - almario on Jul 27, 2017, 7:12 PM
                                28. Only the gospel doctrines are necessary for salvation. - Tomas on Jul 28, 2017, 5:15 AM
                                29. Re: Only the gospel doctrines are necessary for salvation. - almario on Jul 28, 2017, 4:40 PM
                                30. You did not display 1 John 3, so I don't see whether that printing had italics in - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 4:20 PM
                                31. Re: You did not display 1 John 3, so I don't see whether that printing had italics in - almario on Jul 29, 2017, 11:18 PM
                                32. I know our God is one Lord and one God. And I love him. So no problem. - Tomas on Jul 31, 2017, 2:55 AM
                                33. Re: I know our God is one Lord and one God. And I love him. So no problem. - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 4:42 AM
                                34. Of course God's infallible words are the only judge if a person is saved. But - Tomas on Jul 31, 2017, 6:45 AM
                                35. Re: Of course God's infallible words are the only judge if a person is saved. But - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 8:30 AM
                                36. Don't worry, I was converted to become as a little child. I hope you were too. - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 8:07 AM
                                37. Re: Don't worry, I was converted to become as a little child. I hope you were too. - almario on Aug 3, 2017, 2:55 PM
                                38. I did not covet God's doctrines, to the contrary, I have tried to figure out God's - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:25 AM
                                39. Re: I did not covet God's doctrines, to the contrary, I have tried to figure out God's - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 4:13 PM
                                40. I search the scriptures, and as a result, I try to figure out God's doctrines, - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:43 PM
                                41. I sent this too soon. So I search the scriptures, and as a result, I try to figure out - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:46 PM
                                42. Re: I sent this too soon. So I search the scriptures, and as a result, I try to figure out - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 4:10 PM
                                43. God's doctrines are infallible. My and your doctrines are not infallible, we can all - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 3:06 AM
                                44. Re: God's doctrines are infallible. My and your doctrines are not infallible, we can all - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 4:23 AM
                                45. Of course you have your doctrines, as much as you deny it. And some of - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 6:13 AM
                                46. Re: Of course you have your doctrines, as much as you deny it. And some of - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 3:35 PM
                                47. We have God's words in our hearts, even though we don't remember them all. - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:45 PM
                                48. Re: We have God's words in our hearts, even though we don't remember them all. - almario on Aug 9, 2017, 11:55 PM
                                49. Of course the heart is deceitful above all things, so people of various religions - Tomas on Aug 10, 2017, 7:09 AM
                                50. Re: Of course the heart is deceitful above all things, so people of various religions - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 4:31 AM
                                51. So please don't preach any other gospel, such as that Jesus was not actually resurrected. - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:36 AM
                                52. Re: So please don't preach any other gospel, such as that Jesus was not actually resurrected. - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 3:49 PM
                                53. So please read the Bible, pray for wisdom, and realize that Jesus was really resurrected. - Tomas on Aug 12, 2017, 7:00 PM
                                54. Re: So please read the Bible, pray for wisdom, and realize that Jesus was really resurrected. - almario on Aug 12, 2017, 8:29 PM
    2. What or who makes it locked? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jun 19, 2017, 3:15 AM
      1. I am not sure. I guess the forum is monitored for length of threads. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2017, 5:41 AM
     
  21.   Old and New Testament - 11 View Thread - almario on Mar 28, 2017, 4:10 PM
    1. We have a different law in the New Covenant. - Tomas on Mar 29, 2017, 2:13 PM
      1. Re: We have a different law in the New Covenant. - almario on Mar 29, 2017, 2:37 PM
        1. Re: We have a different law in the New Covenant. - almario on Mar 29, 2017, 2:46 PM
          1. You are repeating the same post. - Tomas on Mar 29, 2017, 2:50 PM
            1. Re: You are repeating the same post. - almario on Mar 29, 2017, 6:00 PM
        2. Good words. Anyway, Heb. 7:19 says "For the law made nothing perfect, but - Tomas on Mar 29, 2017, 2:49 PM
      2. the new law - inc slayer on Jul 19, 2017, 4:02 PM
        1. Yes, one jot or tittle shall not pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. And it has been - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:27 PM
          1. Re: Yes, one jot or tittle shall not pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. And it has been - inc slayer on Jul 20, 2017, 6:36 PM
            1. Of course we have to obey the New Testament commandments, so no lying, - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:31 AM
    2. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Mar 31, 2017, 8:58 PM
      1. Sabbaths are not for today. - Tomas on Apr 1, 2017, 8:33 AM
      2. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 1, 2017, 6:53 PM
        1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 2, 2017, 7:35 PM
          1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 4, 2017, 1:44 AM
            1. Did the Father die? The Father was immortal, Is. 57:15, so he can't die. - Tomas on Apr 5, 2017, 12:54 PM
              1. Re: Did the Father die? The Father was immortal, Is. 57:15, so he can't die. - almario on Apr 5, 2017, 5:08 PM
                1. Deut. 33:27 says "The eternal God is thy refuge". Ps. 90:2 says "From everlasting - Tomas on Apr 6, 2017, 3:19 AM
                  1. Re: Deut. 33:27 says "The eternal God is thy refuge". Ps. 90:2 says "From everlastin - almario on Apr 7, 2017, 4:45 PM
                    1. Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - Tomas on Apr 8, 2017, 8:30 AM
                      1. Re: Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - almario on Apr 8, 2017, 3:59 PM
                        1. KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - Tomas on Apr 9, 2017, 5:13 AM
                          1. Re: KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - almario on Apr 9, 2017, 2:50 PM
                            1. Antiquity is veracity? So do you consider ancient Latin translations to be inspired? - Tomas on Apr 10, 2017, 5:14 AM
                              1. Re: Antiquity is veracity? So do you consider ancient Latin translations to be inspired? - almario on Apr 10, 2017, 4:55 PM
                                1. The KJV is just not very antique, it is only several centuries old. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2017, 10:06 AM
                                2. Re: The KJV is just not very antique, it is only several centuries old. - almario on Apr 14, 2017, 6:03 PM
                                3. For example the KJV has the pagan word Easter, in Acts 12:4, a mistranslation - Tomas on Apr 15, 2017, 3:03 PM
                                4. Re: For example the KJV has the pagan word Easter, in Acts 12:4, a mistranslation - almario on Apr 15, 2017, 3:37 PM
                                5. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, James 1:5. - Tomas on Apr 15, 2017, 4:41 PM
                                6. Re: If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, James 1:5. - almario on Apr 15, 2017, 5:50 PM
                                7. You think that whoever made that statement in the Library of Congress was inspired? - Tomas on Apr 16, 2017, 10:22 AM
                                8. Re: You think that whoever made that statement in the Library of Congress was inspired? - almario on Apr 16, 2017, 8:17 PM
                                9. It is that academe, scholastic, in depth scholar at the Library of Congress, who - Tomas on Apr 17, 2017, 4:37 AM
                                10. Re: It is that academe, scholastic, in depth scholar at the Library of Congress, who - almario on Apr 17, 2017, 2:55 PM
                                11. Just because someone at the Library of Congress had a theory about how the KJV came about, - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 9:23 AM
                                12. Re: Just because someone at the Library of Congress had a theory about how the KJV came about, - almario on Apr 19, 2017, 5:53 PM
                                13. It was the KJV that replaced Passover with the pagan name Easter in Acts. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 7:01 PM
                                14. Re: It was the KJV that replaced Passover with the pagan name Easter in Acts. - almario on Apr 19, 2017, 11:51 PM
                                15. Passover is of course usually translated well in KJV, but mistranslated in Acts 12:4. - Tomas on Apr 20, 2017, 3:08 AM
                                16. Re: Passover is of course usually translated well in KJV, but mistranslated in Acts 12:4. - almario on Apr 20, 2017, 6:05 AM
                                17. Of course Christ's resurrection is emphasized in the Bible, but Passover was - Tomas on Apr 21, 2017, 8:43 AM
                                18. Re: Of course Christ's resurrection is emphasized in the Bible, but Passover was - almario on Apr 21, 2017, 3:08 PM
                                19. With Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform Jews, Passover begins only on the 15th - Tomas on Apr 22, 2017, 10:01 PM
                          2. Re: KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - inc slayer on Jul 19, 2017, 4:08 PM
                            1. I have two KJV Bibles, they both put 'of God' in italics in 1 John 3:16. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:24 PM
                              1. Re: I have two KJV Bibles, they both put 'of God' in italics in 1 John 3:16. - inc slayer on Jul 20, 2017, 6:38 PM
                                1. It is faulty in that verse, because it forgot to put 'of God' in italics. - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:15 AM
                      2. Re: Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - inc slayer on Jul 19, 2017, 4:06 PM
                        1. Of course God dwelt in Jesus Christ, when he died. But God did not die. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:29 PM
                          1. Re: Of course God dwelt in Jesus Christ, when he died. But God did not die. - inc slayer on Jul 20, 2017, 6:38 PM
                            1. Some are saying God died, for example Catholics. In previous centuries many were - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:43 AM
            2. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 9, 2017, 11:25 PM
              1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 14, 2017, 6:23 PM
                1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 23, 2017, 12:35 AM
                  1. There have indeed been people who have claimed "I am Christ". - Tomas on Apr 23, 2017, 1:48 AM
                  2. Old and New Testament - 20 - almario on Apr 23, 2017, 4:00 PM
                    1. Of course we should all reject Satan, but as far as the nature of Christ, he told us - Tomas on Apr 24, 2017, 4:15 AM
                    2. Re: Old and New Testament - 20 - almario on May 4, 2017, 7:05 PM
                      1. Old and New Testament - 22 - almario on Jun 20, 2017, 11:23 PM
                        1. Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:18 AM
                          1. Re: Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 6:33 PM
                            1. Christianity continued to survive the medieval era in trinitarian churches. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:34 PM
                        2. Re: Old and New Testament - 23 - almario on Jun 22, 2017, 1:44 AM
                          1. Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:45 AM
                            1. Re: Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 3:47 PM
                              1. Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? God was dwelling in Christ. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:02 PM
                          2. Old and New Testament - 24 - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:39 PM
                            1. What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:10 PM
                              1. Re: What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
                                1. Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
                                2. Re: Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
                                3. That is more correct, although Dynamic Monarchianism should not be confused with Arianism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 3:54 AM
                            2. Old and New Testament - 25 - almario on Jun 26, 2017, 2:03 PM
                              1. Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 3, 2017, 7:09 PM
                                1. Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - Tomas on Jul 5, 2017, 1:19 PM
                                2. Re: Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - almario on Jul 6, 2017, 3:34 PM
                                3. 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 7:18 AM
                                4. Re: 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - almario on Jul 7, 2017, 6:25 PM
                                5. You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - Tomas on Jul 8, 2017, 2:11 PM
                                6. Re: You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - almario on Jul 8, 2017, 6:05 PM
                                7. The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - Tomas on Jul 10, 2017, 2:46 AM
                                8. Re: The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - almario on Jul 10, 2017, 8:11 PM
                                9. I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 6:05 PM
                                10. Re: I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - almario on Jul 12, 2017, 8:36 PM
                                11. The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 10:34 PM
                                12. Re: The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:10 AM
                                13. I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - Tomas on Jul 13, 2017, 3:58 AM
                                14. Re: I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:45 PM
                                15. We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - Tomas on Jul 14, 2017, 5:20 AM
                                16. Re: We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 9:43 PM
                                17. I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:09 PM
                                18. Re: I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - almario on Jul 16, 2017, 4:48 PM
                                19. Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - Tomas on Jul 17, 2017, 3:51 AM
                                20. Re: Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - almario on Jul 17, 2017, 10:11 PM
                                21. It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:56 PM
                                22. Re: It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 11:47 PM
                                23. So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:51 AM
                                24. Re: So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 3:27 PM
                                25. Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:49 AM
                                26. Re: Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:09 PM
                                27. Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 2:00 PM
                                28. Re: Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 4:10 PM
                                29. You misunderstand that verse, Eccl. 12:7. - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 3:57 AM
                                30. Re: Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:47 AM
                                31. Old and New Testament - w/correction - 27 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:52 AM
                                32. Old and New Testament - 28 - almario on Jul 23, 2017, 3:40 PM
                                33. The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:05 AM
                                34. Re: The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 2:49 PM
                                35. So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:16 PM
                                36. Re: So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - almario on Jul 26, 2017, 7:59 PM
                                37. Yes, some Christians believe the devil and his fallen angels will suffer forever - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:09 AM
                                38. Old and New Testament - 29 - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 8:27 PM
                                39. Old and New Testament - 30 - almario on Jul 29, 2017, 4:06 PM
                                40. Old and New Testament - 31 - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 6:50 PM
                                41. Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 6:17 AM
                                42. Re: Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - almario on Aug 3, 2017, 9:04 PM
                                43. Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:16 AM
                                44. Re: Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 7:07 PM
                                45. You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:35 PM
                                46. Re: You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 9:23 PM
                                47. OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 2:38 AM
                                48. Re: OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 6:11 PM
                                49. OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:10 PM
                                50. Re: OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - almario on Aug 9, 2017, 9:15 PM
                                51. Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - Tomas on Aug 10, 2017, 7:24 AM
                                52. Re: Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 1:56 AM
                                53. 2 Cor. 3:6 can't be used to spiritualize away the resurrection of Christ, it is a warning - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:52 AM
        2. Almario, Paul wrote in Rom. 7:6 "But now we are delivered from the Law". - Tomas on Apr 3, 2017, 4:17 AM
     
  22. THE FULFILLMENT OF BIBLE PROPHECIES View Thread - james on Jul 24, 2005, 1:07 PM
    1. Worship God! So why do you worship man? That's idolatry! - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 24, 2005, 2:24 PM
      1. God commanded to worship Lord Jesus Christ - Big Brother on Aug 9, 2017, 6:34 PM
    2. The message brought to you by - Deacon646 on Aug 11, 2017, 4:13 AM
     
  23. INCs interpretation of John 20:28 View Thread - TaichiPanda on Aug 1, 2017, 12:59 AM
    1. The INC doctrinal experts have not studied Greek. Had they done so, they would have seen - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 6:14 AM
      1. Doctrinal experts?????? What an expert - hijo on Aug 3, 2017, 8:59 PM
        1. Re: Doctrinal experts?????? What an expert - John Snow on Aug 4, 2017, 3:55 AM
          1. To the contrary, I do believe in the incarnation of the Son, named Jesus after - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:13 AM
            1. Re: To the contrary, I do believe in the incarnation of the Son, named Jesus after - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 9:49 PM
              1. Do you believe in the incarnation of the Son, who preexisted? - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 2:19 PM
        2. Yes, INC experts in their doctrine do not know Greek, so they have erred, - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:00 AM
          1. Experts at leading a flock of gooses - hijo on Aug 4, 2017, 11:03 PM
            1. According to a dictionary I have, the plural of goose is gooses only in case of - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:21 PM
              1. I prefer Gooses - its more descriptive - Hijo on Aug 9, 2017, 3:12 AM
      2. Re: The INC doctrinal experts have not studied Greek. Had they done so, they would have seen - Jezz on Aug 7, 2017, 6:01 PM
        1. The words were addressed to Jesus, but were describing the Father. - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:07 PM
     
  24. 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them View Thread - Eric on Jul 27, 2017, 9:07 PM
    1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Jul 27, 2017, 10:42 PM
      1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Jul 30, 2017, 1:32 AM
        1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Jul 30, 2017, 4:22 PM
          1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Jul 30, 2017, 4:37 PM
            1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Aug 6, 2017, 3:59 PM
              1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 9:14 PM
                1. Re: 103rd anniversary!! Another year.. another year closer to WRATH of GOD upon them - almario on Aug 9, 2017, 5:35 PM
     
  25. Sher Lock and others keep up the good work View Thread - Hijo on Aug 9, 2017, 3:32 PM
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  27. Both INC and the "Defenders" love twisting what other Christians believe View Thread - John Snow on Aug 4, 2017, 4:05 AM
    1. The quote says 'those who preach that Christ is also the Father', so it is a reference - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 5:56 AM
      1. Re: The quote says 'those who preach that Christ is also the Father', so it is a reference - John Snow on Aug 6, 2017, 2:50 AM
        1. Well, I hope Sher Lock is knowledgeable enough to realize that those who preach that - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 2:34 AM
     
  28. relgious trauma syndrome. very helpful link. INC fanatics strongly advised to read. View Thread - james on Jul 28, 2017, 2:03 PM
    1. Good article. Clearly even within Christianity, many groups can cause real damage. - Tomas on Jul 29, 2017, 5:41 PM
    2. Infidel - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 1, 2017, 4:22 PM
      1. Why do you always put the topic Infidel? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 1, 2017, 9:16 PM
        1. Title - PuksainAngTaglish on Aug 1, 2017, 10:52 PM
          1. No worries.. - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 2, 2017, 2:13 AM
            1. 4 practices repeated constantly - we are all infidels in the eyes of the Manalo on Aug 2, 2017, 12:42 PM
              1. Gaslighting - James on Aug 3, 2017, 11:11 AM
     
  29. Bishop??? View Thread - Kim Jong Il on Jul 31, 2017, 8:26 AM
    1. EVM's Bishops - hoopdedoo on Jul 31, 2017, 4:30 PM
    2. What's going on? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Aug 1, 2017, 9:36 PM
      1. EVM Bishops - Kim Jong Il on Aug 2, 2017, 12:59 AM
     
  30. Beiber cancels rest of his concerts including Philippine Arena... View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 25, 2017, 9:57 PM
    1. Re: Beiber cancels rest of his concerts including Philippine Arena... - John Snow on Jul 25, 2017, 10:13 PM
    2. Seemed like a big shindig - underarmour on Jul 26, 2017, 4:29 AM
    3. Making a profit - Deacon646 on Jul 26, 2017, 5:47 PM
      1. Re: Making a profit - almario on Jul 30, 2017, 4:42 PM
     
  31. I asked Matt Slick on his livestream a question View Thread - Eric on Jul 27, 2017, 9:02 PM
    1. Matt: What message u have for INC on their 103rd anniversary? - Eric on Jul 27, 2017, 9:04 PM
      1. helpful info to aid in deprogramming your loved ones trapped in the INc. - james on Jul 28, 2017, 1:43 PM
        1. Never ever - hijo on Jul 28, 2017, 2:17 PM
     
  32. EVM Airbus Landing in Melbourne July 2017 View Thread - Kim Jong Il on Jul 19, 2017, 12:29 AM
    1. Re: EVM Airbus Landing in Melbourne July 2017 - John Snow on Jul 19, 2017, 1:35 AM
      1. Oh yeah thanksgiving time again I think? Finance Officers get that cash changed into - HiJo on Jul 19, 2017, 9:28 AM
    2. Do we have a corresponding visitation? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 19, 2017, 2:20 PM
    3. How do you know - Deacon646 on Jul 19, 2017, 2:39 PM
      1. because its registered under skytrooper ltd. out of the Cayman Islands... - James on Jul 19, 2017, 2:50 PM
        1. He didn't technically lie... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 20, 2017, 1:42 PM
          1. it is not leased. purchased and registered under skytrooper ltd. sits at Clark when not... - James on Jul 20, 2017, 7:29 PM
            1. Skytrooper ltd is another name for Iglesia Ni Cristo? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jul 21, 2017, 1:12 AM
      2. EVM Private Airbus - Kim Jong Il on Jul 20, 2017, 6:01 AM
        1. I have learned to have a healthy skepticism about everything i read on - Deacon646 on Jul 24, 2017, 3:23 AM
    4. Melbourne cancelled no permit apparently - Hijo on Jul 22, 2017, 2:42 AM
      1. Wasted Time & Money - Kim Jong Il on Jul 24, 2017, 2:22 AM
        1. You can't expect perfection from any denomination. The main problem of the INC leadership - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 3:40 AM
          1. Better off without religion especially of the cult kind - HiJo on Jul 24, 2017, 3:59 AM
            1. Yes, Christian cults are a problem for Christianity, they make us look bad, - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:13 AM
              1. Can't turn a sows ear into a silver purse - HiJo on Jul 24, 2017, 5:59 AM
                1. For example the Worldwide Church of God improved in recent years, became - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 9:03 AM
                  1. Your right, when religions gain power - HiJo on Jul 24, 2017, 9:41 AM
                    1. That is why good doctrine is needed, so that we have freedom of religion. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:24 PM
                2. Certainly the INC could improve over time` - Deacon646 on Jul 24, 2017, 2:09 PM
        2. No all gone quiet now, hip hip hooray for the cult - HiJo on Jul 24, 2017, 4:01 AM
     
  33. Where is Villocino's car? View Thread - HiJo on Jul 24, 2017, 10:03 AM
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