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  1. Iglesia ni Cristo in a nutshell - Doctrines exposed sticky (149 replies) View Thread - Cultic Research on Aug 18, 2005, 9:54 PM
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  3. Does High and Mighty EVM attend buklod meetings like everyone else supposed to??? View Thread - chandra on May 26, 2016, 6:37 PM
    1. Didn't they tell you that gods are exempted in their own rules? - iamonewithGod on May 26, 2016, 9:56 PM
     
  4. Let's guess tonight's lesson... View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 25, 2016, 9:14 PM
    1. I observed that lately they've been recycling the lessons written in the FBINC - iamonewithGod on May 25, 2016, 10:32 PM
    2. last WS was about what not to eat, who not to marry, BUT... - ASP on May 25, 2016, 11:25 PM
      1. don't drink the kool-aid! - chandra on May 26, 2016, 1:33 AM
      2. Go to the Buklod meeting to learn how to brush your teeth - HiJo on May 26, 2016, 1:41 AM
        1. Does EVM go to buklod meetings? Isn't he married? - chandra on May 26, 2016, 5:19 PM
    3. Only true church + monetary offerings - HiJo on May 26, 2016, 1:42 AM
     
  5. Face off - Apollo Quibaloy Vs Eduardo V Manalo View Thread - HiJo on May 24, 2016, 8:50 AM
    1. Lesser of two evils is Quiboloy - Sis Lori on May 24, 2016, 2:55 PM
      1. Quiboloy is worse, since his sect is a false gospel. - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
        1. INC is NOT a FALSE GOSPEL? Are you insane or naive or BOTH? - Eric on May 25, 2016, 12:19 PM
          1. OK, give me biblical evidence that INC is a false gospel. - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 3:50 PM
            1. How about INCs mainstay verse - Angel from the east - HiJo on May 26, 2016, 2:01 AM
    2. I never heard of Apollo Quibaloy - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 24, 2016, 3:48 PM
      1. Virtually unknown - Hijo on May 24, 2016, 4:06 PM
      2. 4 million followers? Does he have branches in other parts of PH and abroad? - iamonewithGod on May 24, 2016, 10:02 PM
        1. He sure claims to have. But it is hard to know really. - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 12:09 PM
      3. What about "Apostle" Renato Carillo of Jesus Is Our Shield? - iamonewithGod on May 25, 2016, 10:35 PM
    3. as far as I can remember, INC does not bash Quibuloy in worship service - ASP on May 24, 2016, 6:47 PM
      1. EVM is scared to bash Quiboloy - Sis Lori on May 25, 2016, 4:00 AM
        1. More likely reason - HiJo on May 25, 2016, 4:06 AM
        2. It is funny, to be actually scared of a curse of a false gospel leader. But I have - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 12:17 PM
    4. Both Quiboloy's and Manalo's churches have false gospels - Sis Lori on May 25, 2016, 2:48 PM
      1. No, INC does not teach that their church is the Christ. - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 4:10 PM
        1. Re: No, INC does not teach that their church is the Christ. - John Snow on May 25, 2016, 4:43 PM
        2. INC does not teach their church is Christ? Really? - Sis Lori on May 26, 2016, 2:28 AM
     
  6. What the INC preaches is not Christ, but, FYM's FBINC View Thread - Sis Lori on May 22, 2016, 2:14 AM
    1. If that were true, it would be quite a deterioration. It was not like this when I was - Tomas on May 22, 2016, 7:23 AM
      1. Tomas, FYM's FBINC comprise the faith of INC - Sis Lori on May 22, 2016, 3:53 PM
        1. My experience is that they have lots of other doctrines that are not in the FB book. - Tomas on May 23, 2016, 3:14 AM
          1. Tomas, can you name one doctrine not covered by FBINC? - Sis Lori on May 24, 2016, 3:20 PM
            1. All of INC's doctrines are in the FB book - iamonewithGod on May 24, 2016, 10:12 PM
              1. For example their doctrine against evolution, is that in the FB book? It was not taught - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 11:54 AM
                1. Tomas, I excuse you for being ignorant of Manalo's FB - Sis Lori on May 25, 2016, 3:18 PM
                  1. So of course the FB gives authority to FYM and the Administration, but I was talking - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 3:49 PM
                    1. I'd rather be kind to somebody who is remorseful than to a stupid fella - Sis Lori on May 25, 2016, 5:59 PM
     
  7. website of PHIL ARENA finally updated, however... View Thread - ASP on May 18, 2016, 4:38 PM
    1. I am a VVIP. THAT AREA IS FOR ME! NOT ANY OF YOU PEONS! - EVM on May 18, 2016, 11:15 PM
    2. sexy girls in INC's Philippine Arena gallery - see Motoring 2015 event - ASP on May 20, 2016, 5:37 PM
      1. At last something worthwhile at the arena - Hijo on May 21, 2016, 12:15 AM
        1. if INC pamphlets were handed out by girls in similar clothing, well... - ASP on May 23, 2016, 7:54 PM
          1. There are no other INC doctrines other than the FBINC - Sis Lori on May 24, 2016, 3:08 PM
            1. For example their doctrine against evolution, is that in the FB book? It was not taught - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 11:49 AM
              1. Tomas, you need to repeat Lessons 1, 4, 11, 21, & 24. - Sis Lori on May 25, 2016, 5:11 PM
     
  8. Sorry but I don't feel sorry for "silent defenders" and their troubles View Thread - chandra on May 23, 2016, 7:56 PM
    1. Enough is enough. Be a minion of EVM or leave the INC and BE WITH GOD! - chandra on May 23, 2016, 7:56 PM
    2. Did you leave INC? Where you a member? - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 23, 2016, 8:02 PM
      1. I understand the family/friend pressure, but being "silent" is NOT being a defender of God - chandra on May 23, 2016, 9:36 PM
        1. Being silent is allowing evil men to dominate your lives. That's the bottom line. - chandra on May 23, 2016, 9:37 PM
        2. Fine I'm not a Defender - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 24, 2016, 6:20 PM
      2. and yes in answer to your question I was a member. Thankfully not anymore! - chandra on May 23, 2016, 11:26 PM
        1. If one gets saved in INC, that is better than never being saved. - Tomas on May 24, 2016, 4:48 AM
          1. Re: If one gets saved in INC, that is better than never being saved. - John Snow on May 24, 2016, 6:43 AM
            1. Of course some don't lose salvation, but I am just judging from comments of some people - Tomas on May 25, 2016, 11:37 AM
     
  9. Duterte's spiritual adviser is Apollo Quiboloy View Thread - HiJo on May 23, 2016, 8:37 AM
    1. The Wikipedia article about Duterte says Duterte is now a Deist. - Tomas on May 24, 2016, 4:43 AM
     
  10. EVM EVM EVM EVM EVM EVM View Thread - Hijo on May 23, 2016, 1:54 AM
    1. He is the God of INC - iamonewithGod on May 23, 2016, 3:26 AM
    2. Hijo, you have been doing this for so many years, a more than a decade now.. - ShiningTruth on May 23, 2016, 4:42 PM
      1. You're one of the members that don't think and blind follower, right? - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 23, 2016, 5:54 PM
      2. Shining beacon of stupidity - Hijo on May 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
      3. How about some healthy rebuttal about the mountain of evidence being presented? - iamonewithGod on May 24, 2016, 12:05 AM
     
  11. Bet your looking forward to Manalo and his screeching View Thread - Hijo on May 21, 2016, 12:21 AM
    1. Re: Bet your looking forward to Manalo and his screeching - John Snow on May 22, 2016, 7:47 AM
      1. Re: Bet your looking forward to Manalo and his screeching - John Snow on May 22, 2016, 2:43 PM
        1. Re: Bet your looking forward to Manalo and his screeching - John Snow on May 22, 2016, 8:04 PM
     
  12. They left out the talking snake, biblical nonsense View Thread - Hijo on May 22, 2016, 12:58 AM
    1. I guess the most common interpretation in Christian churches is that the talking - Tomas on May 22, 2016, 7:30 AM
      1. Re: I guess the most common interpretation in Christian churches is that the talking - John Snow on May 22, 2016, 7:45 AM
     
  13. Go into all the Iglesia chapels and preach the INC View Thread - Sis Lori on May 21, 2016, 2:35 PM
    1. Who in their right mind or with a choice would join the rubbish - Hijo on May 21, 2016, 4:19 PM
      1. Re: Who in their right mind or with a choice would join the rubbish - John Snow on May 21, 2016, 7:27 PM
     
  14. Tomas: What does it mean to be TRULY "BAPTIZED" ? View Thread - Eric on May 12, 2016, 12:09 PM
    1. The saving baptism is baptism with the Holy Spirit, which already John the Baptist - Tomas on May 13, 2016, 7:39 AM
      1. NO where does the bible say that WATER baptism SHOULD follow SALVATION - Eric on May 13, 2016, 11:24 AM
        1. It is what Jesus commanded, in Mt. 28:19, to make disciples and then baptizing - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 7:06 AM
          1. WATER baptism is a CEREMONY. IT is a WORK and NO work can aid you in being SAVED - Eric on May 15, 2016, 7:17 AM
            1. It is not necessary for salvation. But if you can get baptized in water, but you rebel - Tomas on May 16, 2016, 5:32 AM
              1. IF you are SAVED..that is a FINISHED product. You cant become UNSAVED! - Eric on May 16, 2016, 12:08 PM
                1. So how do you deal with all the verses I gave you that prove salvation can be lost? - Tomas on May 18, 2016, 7:49 AM
                  1. Those verses dont say that., You read into it what you think - Eric on May 18, 2016, 1:45 PM
                    1. So how do you interpret those verses? - Tomas on May 19, 2016, 9:22 AM
                      1. You can lose your own FAITH. but if you are of the ELECT you dont LOSE SALVATION - Eric on May 19, 2016, 10:18 AM
                        1. So if you are elect, you can lose your faith but you are still saved? - Tomas on May 20, 2016, 8:45 AM
     
  15. Tomas: What is the FAITH that saves a person? View Thread - Eric on May 12, 2016, 12:11 PM
    1. Faith in doctrines necessary for salvation. For example faith that Jesus is the Christ, - Tomas on May 13, 2016, 7:43 AM
      1. WRONG! The FAITH that SAVES is the FAITH "OF" JESUS - Eric on May 13, 2016, 11:23 AM
        1. The faith of Jesus is faith in Jesus. Of course Jesus had faith in God and himself, but - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 6:59 AM
          1. FAITH is a TITLE for CHRIST! It is a GIFT to have JESUS as your SAVIOUR - Eric on May 15, 2016, 7:21 AM
            1. What verse says Faith is a title of Christ? I haven't seen it. - Tomas on May 16, 2016, 5:27 AM
              1. Try reading REVELATIONS. JESUS has the title FAITHFUL - Eric on May 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
                1. Jesus has the title Faithful. But not Faith. - Tomas on May 18, 2016, 7:47 AM
                  1. READ Galatians 2:16 KJV The FAITH "OF" CHRIST - Eric on May 18, 2016, 1:48 PM
                    1. That is like saying 'the roof of the house' means that the title of the house is roof. - Tomas on May 19, 2016, 9:19 AM
                      1. Are you for REAL? JESUS is FAITH. FAITHFUL is a TITLE for CHRIST - Eric on May 19, 2016, 10:19 AM
                        1. Faithful is a title for Christ, but the Bible does not say that Faith is a title for - Tomas on May 20, 2016, 8:37 AM
                      2. WORD is a TITLE for CHRIST - Eric on May 19, 2016, 10:20 AM
                      3. FIRST AND LAST is a TITLE for CHRIST - Eric on May 19, 2016, 10:21 AM
     
  16. The sermon yesterday was SO HYPOCRITICAL!! View Thread - iamonewithGod on May 19, 2016, 12:22 AM
    1. Remember, it was Mr. Angel and Mrs. Tenny who was calling EVM to talk with them!! - iamonewithGod on May 19, 2016, 12:23 AM
    2. Yeah, I couldn't believe it... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 19, 2016, 4:40 PM
    3. "once they are expelled, you may sue them if they owe you money" - ASP on May 19, 2016, 5:08 PM
    4. BUT YOU ARE STILL MY SLAVES! YOU CAN'T LEAVE! HA HA HA! - EVM on May 19, 2016, 9:22 PM
     
  17. When were those glory days Antonio? View Thread - HiJo on May 19, 2016, 1:57 AM
    1. This hits me in the gut.. - iamonewithGod on May 19, 2016, 2:59 AM
      1. Re: This hits me in the gut.. - John Snow on May 19, 2016, 7:42 AM
        1. Maybe God used this controversy to open my heart to research more about this cult. - iamonewithGod on May 19, 2016, 10:13 AM
      2. You can leave INC, but please don't let it affect your view of Christianity. - Tomas on May 19, 2016, 9:11 AM
     
  18. Some insight into the number of members in California? View Thread - John Snow on May 5, 2016, 7:12 AM
    1. San Pedro is not a joke. He is my favorite arse kisser next to wayne!!!!!!! - EVM on May 9, 2016, 7:42 PM
    2. my guess is that entire California, plus Mexico and nearby small areas - 7000 members - ASP on May 10, 2016, 4:38 PM
    3. LOL no. - VoiceOfJustice on May 10, 2016, 6:43 PM
      1. any thoughts on INC progress (or lack thereof) in towns near along Cal-Nevada border? - ASP on May 10, 2016, 7:00 PM
      2. 4000? there over a million Filipinos living in California - DavidB on May 10, 2016, 7:06 PM
        1. your point? - TX2k15 on May 18, 2016, 4:10 PM
      3. Re: LOL no. - John Snow on May 11, 2016, 5:43 AM
        1. LOLOLOLOLOL - TX2k15 on May 18, 2016, 4:45 PM
          1. Re: LOLOLOLOLOL - John Snow on May 19, 2016, 7:39 AM
     
  19. Another phoney event View Thread - Hijo on May 18, 2016, 1:36 AM
    1. Re: Another phoney event - John Snow on May 18, 2016, 5:57 AM
      1. And then if they are being criticized, they'll be like: - iamonewithGod on May 19, 2016, 12:53 AM
     
  20. Offerings X 400 View Thread - Hijo on May 12, 2016, 3:08 PM
    1. I felt like walking out - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 12, 2016, 3:54 PM
      1. How good would life be without inc - Hijo on May 13, 2016, 3:37 PM
        1. How long can we keep this up? - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 13, 2016, 9:13 PM
          1. A day at a time- INC is doomed - Hijo on May 13, 2016, 9:51 PM
            1. Maybe when EVM dies, the next executive minister will improve things. - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 7:10 AM
              1. HEY! ARE YOU SUGGESTING I SHOULD DIE!???????? - EVM on May 14, 2016, 2:53 PM
                1. What do you think, you are immortal? - Tomas on May 15, 2016, 7:08 AM
                  1. I don't think. I KNOW I AM! - EVM on May 16, 2016, 1:54 PM
                  2. I don't think. I KNOW I AM! - EVM on May 16, 2016, 1:54 PM
              2. Children of God do not sin (1 Jn 3:9) - Sis Lori on May 16, 2016, 2:58 PM
                1. That is about not living in sin. But any child of God can fall into sin sometimes. - Tomas on May 18, 2016, 7:45 AM
    2. $1 is $46 pesos, Filipinos need to work 46x more to earn equal to US - ASP on May 12, 2016, 4:39 PM
    3. $$$$$ - hoopdedoo on May 13, 2016, 6:27 PM
     
  21. Iglesia ni Cristo hits a new low View Thread - John Snow on May 14, 2016, 5:17 PM
    1. Yeah.Everyone should go to her wake and WAKE UP! This cult will not save anyone! - chandra on May 14, 2016, 8:16 PM
    2. I would think the idea is they think she lost her salvation before she died, even - Tomas on May 15, 2016, 7:07 AM
      1. Re: I would think the idea is they think she lost her salvation before she died, even - John Snow on May 15, 2016, 4:05 PM
        1. Well, the way you wrote it, it made it look like they thought she lost salvation after - Tomas on May 16, 2016, 5:18 AM
    3. If she already in heaven, evm going to get her tossed out? - Chandra on May 15, 2016, 9:20 PM
      1. The only human now in heaven is Christ himself. The dead are totally dead. - Tomas on May 16, 2016, 5:21 AM
    4. Is evm going to fly up to heaven to kick her out of there? - chandra on May 15, 2016, 10:27 PM
    5. Or if she isn't in heaven, what's the point of expelling her from the earthly church? - chandra on May 15, 2016, 10:28 PM
      1. Re: Or if she isn't in heaven, what's the point of expelling her from the earthly church? - John Snow on May 16, 2016, 3:21 AM
    6. What is worse is secret INC expulsion at death - Sis Lori on May 16, 2016, 12:10 PM
      1. Re: What is worse is secret INC expulsion at death - John Snow on May 16, 2016, 5:28 PM
      2. on delistment - ASP on May 16, 2016, 6:03 PM
     
  22. events in Phil Arena advertised in Skyscrapercity, but not in Maligaya Dev Co web - why? View Thread - ASP on May 10, 2016, 7:29 PM
    1. MDC is a shell company openly pretending not to exist. - Walter on May 10, 2016, 9:37 PM
      1. If I say it exists, it exists! NO ONE can question what I say! - EVM on May 11, 2016, 5:15 PM
        1. Obey or I will sic Glycerin Suppository Santos on you! - EVM on May 11, 2016, 5:16 PM
      2. Walter, watch this video. Try it and you'll have a good time - Markus on May 12, 2016, 7:39 PM
    2. INC and defunct PTL club - ASP on May 13, 2016, 10:53 PM
     
  23. Tomas: What does it mean to be of the CHURCH that is the BODY of CHRIST? View Thread - Eric on May 12, 2016, 12:10 PM
    1. The church that is the body of Christ is all the saved people in the world, regardless - Tomas on May 13, 2016, 7:41 AM
     
  24. What INC and TOMAS have in common: WORKS!! But they are MEANINGLESS View Thread - Eric on May 4, 2016, 6:41 PM
    1. Works are meaningless? You mean you can steal, murder, fornicate etc., not repent - Tomas on May 6, 2016, 7:34 AM
      1. The FAITH that doesn't produce WORK is a "DEAD" FAITH - Eric on May 6, 2016, 11:22 AM
        1. I agree with that, and I believe that we are saved by faith, but - Tomas on May 7, 2016, 5:11 AM
          1. So CHRIST paid for ones sins.. and then its a WASTED EFFORT as some lose that? - Eric on May 7, 2016, 11:08 AM
            1. Not a wasted effort, he was saved indeed, but then lost his salvation, see - Tomas on May 8, 2016, 8:44 AM
              1. Why did CHRIST say: DEpart from me for I NEVER knew you" if he paid fo ALL sins? - Eric on May 9, 2016, 12:18 PM
                1. He paid for the sins of those who would ever become saved, but if they lose salvation, - Tomas on May 11, 2016, 8:42 AM
                  1. SO JESUS. who is ALL-KNOWING. paid for sins of those HE KNEW would NOT be saved? - Eric on May 11, 2016, 11:07 AM
                    1. Jesus paid for the sins of all who would ever be saved, even if later they lose salvation. - Tomas on May 12, 2016, 9:16 AM
                      1. The "BIBLICAL" doctrine is the ELECT. the CHOSEN. JESUS paid for THEIR SINS - Eric on May 12, 2016, 12:03 PM
                        1. Jesus also temporarily paid for the sins of the non-elect who would become saved but - Tomas on May 13, 2016, 7:36 AM
     
  25. Let's be real - Is INC REALLY in unity? View Thread - John Snow on May 12, 2016, 7:20 PM
    1. go ahead, wack your brains out and over analyze - Markus on May 12, 2016, 7:36 PM
      1. Re: go ahead, wack your brains out and over analyze - John Snow on May 13, 2016, 6:01 AM
     
  26. mar mar markus can't even spell your own name out? stop taking drugs dude! View Thread - chandpru on May 12, 2016, 9:53 PM
    1. oh and mar markus no one wants to watch a video of you picking your nose. - chandpru on May 12, 2016, 9:54 PM
     
  27. Hello Walter and ASP View Thread - Mar on May 12, 2016, 7:20 PM
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  29. Let the good times roll!!! View Thread - Hello Walter and ASP on May 12, 2016, 7:17 PM
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  31. Is mothers day allowed to be celebrated this year by inc? View Thread - Billybob on May 6, 2016, 3:53 PM
    1. It is no longer PUBLICLY celebrated - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 6, 2016, 4:59 PM
      1. Just wondering cause - Billybob on May 6, 2016, 5:38 PM
        1. Re: Just wondering cause - John Snow on May 6, 2016, 5:46 PM
        2. Re: Just wondering cause - John Snow on May 6, 2016, 5:48 PM
          1. The other reason I was asking - Billybob on May 6, 2016, 6:43 PM
            1. I don't think it's like openly against... - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 6, 2016, 6:51 PM
              1. Re: I don't think it's like openly against... - John Snow on May 7, 2016, 8:21 PM
                1. Re: I don't think it's like openly against... - John Snow on May 11, 2016, 7:12 PM
                  1. Please post a link - underarmour on May 11, 2016, 8:46 PM
                    1. Re: Please post a link - John Snow on May 12, 2016, 7:00 PM
                  2. Looked like just a text message - Iam1plus1plus1 on May 11, 2016, 9:35 PM
     
  32. Where did Angel and Tennis go? View Thread - Hijo on May 12, 2016, 2:58 PM
    1. Anyone know what happened with court case? - Billybob on May 12, 2016, 6:22 PM
      1. Re: Anyone know what happened with court case? - John Snow on May 12, 2016, 6:54 PM
     
  33. True to form: Creeps of INC endorse creeps Duterte and Marcos View Thread - HiJo on May 9, 2016, 1:27 AM
    1. The $10bn question: what happened to the Marcos millions? - underarmour on May 9, 2016, 5:40 AM
    2. They usually just vote for candidates polling the best - Forgot my screen name on May 9, 2016, 6:09 AM
    3. Wow. I was going to ask who they endorsed. It figures though. EVM is a dictator, so - Tomas on May 11, 2016, 8:47 AM
    4. Hey, DICTATOR is my middle name! I dictate, you all kneel and obey! - EVM on May 11, 2016, 5:14 PM
     
 
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