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  1. Iglesia ni Cristo in a nutshell - Doctrines exposed sticky (150 replies) View Thread - Cultic Research on Aug 18, 2005, 9:54 PM
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  3. Tomas, here as written !! View Thread - almario on Dec 24, 2016, 7:10 PM
    1. So? These are good verses, and I obey them. - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:18 AM
      1. Re: So? These are good verses, and I obey them. - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:23 AM
        1. Why would you think I am not obeying them? - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:25 AM
          1. Re: Why would you think I am not obeying them? - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:46 AM
            1. Scripture says functional titles cannot be put before names? What verse? - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:34 PM
              1. Re: Scripture says functional titles cannot be put before names? What verse? - almario on Dec 29, 2016, 5:47 AM
                1. See my comments below. - Tomas on Dec 31, 2016, 11:09 AM
            2. Matt. 23:7-10 does not prohibit titles like pastor, minister, bishop, elder, - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:56 PM
              1. Re: Matt. 23:7-10 does not prohibit titles like pastor, minister, bishop, elder, - almario on Dec 29, 2016, 6:34 AM
                1. So Mt. 23:7-12 prohibits calling a Christian preacher, rabbi, father, or master. But - Tomas on Dec 31, 2016, 11:14 AM
                  1. Re: So Mt. 23:7-12 prohibits calling a Christian preacher, rabbi, father, or master. But - almario on Dec 31, 2016, 10:21 PM
                    1. Sure, all we are brethren, but some of the brethren are bishops (elders), - Tomas on Jan 1, 2017, 7:15 AM
                      1. Re: Sure, all we are brethren, but some of the brethren are bishops (elders), - almario on Jan 1, 2017, 1:30 PM
                        1. I totally agree with Mt. 23:8. So I would not call a Christian minister a rabbi. - Tomas on Jan 2, 2017, 6:05 AM
                          1. Re: I totally agree with Mt. 23:8. So I would not call a Christian minister a rabbi. - almario on Jan 2, 2017, 3:27 PM
                            1. I know all of us are brethren. But some of the brethren are elders, and some - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:53 PM
                              1. Re: I know all of us are brethren. But some of the brethren are elders, and some - almario on Jan 5, 2017, 9:53 AM
                                1. But I agree that we are all brethren. Ministers are our brethren too. - Tomas on Jan 6, 2017, 5:21 AM
                                2. Re: But I agree that we are all brethren. Ministers are our brethren too. - almario on Jan 6, 2017, 1:24 PM
                                3. So when some brethren are ministers, then why do you ban prefixing the title - Tomas on Jan 7, 2017, 9:47 AM
                                4. Re: So when some brethren are ministers, then why do you ban prefixing the title - almario on Jan 7, 2017, 11:18 AM
                                5. All ye are brethren, is in no way a ban on prefixing titles before names. - Tomas on Jan 8, 2017, 9:10 AM
                                6. Re: All ye are brethren, is in no way a ban on prefixing titles before names. - almario on Jan 8, 2017, 2:33 PM
                                7. I know we are all brethren. But you should not add a commandment not to put - Tomas on Jan 9, 2017, 5:28 AM
                                8. Re: I know we are all brethren. But you should not add a commandment not to put - almario on Jan 9, 2017, 11:53 AM
                                9. You say 'stop blaming me', yet you don't want to admit blame for adding - Tomas on Jan 11, 2017, 6:39 AM
                                10. Re: I know we are all brethren. But you should not add a commandment not to put - almario on Jan 11, 2017, 1:57 PM
                                11. Yes, Col. 2:8 is justly critical of the tradition of men. And your added commandment - Tomas on Jan 12, 2017, 2:27 AM
                                12. Re: Yes, Col. 2:8 is justly critical of the tradition of men. And your added commandment - almario on Jan 12, 2017, 6:06 PM
                                13. I believe in following the commandments stated in the Bible, rather than added - Tomas on Jan 13, 2017, 6:15 AM
                                14. Re: I believe in following the commandments stated in the Bible, rather than added - almario on Jan 13, 2017, 2:15 PM
                                15. Mt. 23:8 is not added, but you are adding a commandment not to use prefixes - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 3:30 AM
                                16. Re: Mt. 23:8 is not added, but you are adding a commandment not to use prefixes - almario on Jan 14, 2017, 2:13 PM
                                17. If you take the verse non-literally, then all kinds of interpretations are possible. - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 10:01 PM
                                18. Re: If you take the verse non-literally, then all kinds of interpretations are possible. - almario on Jan 15, 2017, 12:57 AM
                                19. Re: If you take the verse non-literally, then all kinds of interpretations are possible. - almario on Jan 15, 2017, 1:53 AM
                                20. Yes, the Bible explains itself, but it takes a lot of work, and we will still not - Tomas on Jan 16, 2017, 3:26 AM
                                21. Re: Yes, the Bible explains itself, but it takes a lot of work, and we will still not - almario on Jan 16, 2017, 3:26 PM
                                22. James 2:1,9 do not prohibit us from addressing a pastor as pastor, or minister - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 10:16 AM
                                23. Re: Yes, the Bible explains itself, but it takes a lot of work, and we will still not - almario on Jan 18, 2017, 2:02 PM
                                24. Remember, unbliblical commandments are traditions of men. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 3:13 PM
                                25. Re: Remember, unbliblical commandments are traditions of men. - almario on Jan 18, 2017, 9:01 PM
     
  4. Can they get a refund of all the money stolen under false pretences View Thread - HiJo on Dec 19, 2016, 1:54 AM
    1. A corrupt tree or evil church always bring forth evil fruit - Sis Lori on Jan 2, 2017, 11:18 AM
      1. Only part of INC is corrupt. There are saved INC members who are part of the - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:56 PM
        1. SAVED? The GOSPEL is NOT HEARD in any INC worship service!! - Eric on Jan 4, 2017, 5:16 PM
          1. Maybe it is no longer heard in worship services, from what I have read, but - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 11:16 PM
            1. GOSPEL was NEVER heard in any INC worship service.. EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! - Eric on Jan 6, 2017, 11:04 AM
              1. When I was there, in INC worship services, I heard gospel doctrines. - Tomas on Jan 7, 2017, 9:48 AM
            2. Re: Maybe it is no longer heard in worship services, from what I have read, but - almario on Jan 6, 2017, 1:18 PM
              1. Of course congregations should pre-determine when to meet. - Tomas on Jan 7, 2017, 9:56 AM
                1. Re: Of course congregations should pre-determine when to meet. - almario on Jan 7, 2017, 11:11 AM
                  1. You say incdoctrinating pre-determined times. So what do you mean then, - Tomas on Jan 8, 2017, 9:15 AM
                    1. Re: You say incdoctrinating pre-determined times. So what do you mean then, - almario on Jan 8, 2017, 2:40 PM
                      1. You still did not explain what you meant by incdoctrinating pre-determined times, - Tomas on Jan 9, 2017, 5:26 AM
                        1. Re: You still did not explain what you meant by incdoctrinating pre-determined times, - almario on Jan 9, 2017, 12:10 PM
                          1. Brainwashing? Then how come I was not brainwashed? - Tomas on Jan 11, 2017, 6:37 AM
                            1. Re: Brainwashing? Then how come I was not brainwashed? - almario on Jan 11, 2017, 2:01 PM
                              1. Of course they have human formulated doctrines, but so do all of us. We try - Tomas on Jan 12, 2017, 2:00 AM
                            2. Re: Brainwashing? Then how come I was not brainwashed? - John Snow on Jan 11, 2017, 2:18 PM
                              1. I am partially brainwashed? Just because I agree with them on some of the doctrines? - Tomas on Jan 12, 2017, 2:14 AM
                            3. Of course you won't. As if they will make it obvious. - iamonewithGod on Jan 11, 2017, 10:50 PM
                              1. Mind conditioning? But I was not persuaded to believe in all their doctrines. - Tomas on Jan 12, 2017, 2:19 AM
                                1. I think it's because they realized that you have the ability to think for yourself. - iamonewithGod on Jan 12, 2017, 3:57 AM
                                2. I don't believe the minister was twisting the Bible, I believe he sincerely believed - Tomas on Jan 13, 2017, 6:05 AM
                                3. The minister will not realize that he is twisting the verses. - iamonewithGod on Jan 15, 2017, 4:19 AM
                                4. Neither will ministers in other denominations realize they are twisting the verses. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 10:03 AM
                            4. Re: Brainwashing? Then how come I was not brainwashed? - almario on Jan 12, 2017, 1:20 AM
                              1. That's more like a real brainwashing, like in a communist prison. - Tomas on Jan 12, 2017, 2:22 AM
                                1. Re: That's more like a real brainwashing, like in a communist prison. - John Snow on Jan 12, 2017, 6:11 AM
                                2. Re: That's more like a real brainwashing, like in a communist prison. - almario on Jan 12, 2017, 9:14 PM
                                3. Sure, the Bible presents us with questions. So it is good to study it carefully, - Tomas on Jan 13, 2017, 6:10 AM
                                4. Re: Sure, the Bible presents us with questions. So it is good to study it carefully, - almario on Jan 13, 2017, 2:17 PM
                                5. You don't want to study the Bible? To try to figure out the doctrines in it? - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 3:28 AM
                                6. Re: You don't want to study the Bible? To try to figure out the doctrines in it? - almario on Jan 14, 2017, 3:02 PM
                                7. So KJV says in John 5:39, "Search the scriptures". And sure we should search - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 9:51 PM
                                8. Re: So KJV says in John 5:39, "Search the scriptures". And sure we should search - almario on Jan 15, 2017, 1:13 AM
                                9. Yes, I have been converted. I hope you have been. - Tomasq on Jan 16, 2017, 3:22 AM
                                10. Re: Yes, I have been converted. I hope you have been. - almario on Jan 16, 2017, 5:09 PM
                                11. You may be converted, but you sure are terribly divisive against most other Christians. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 10:07 AM
                                12. Re: You may be converted, but you sure are terribly divisive against most other Christians. - almario on Jan 18, 2017, 2:20 PM
                                13. I am deceiving human beings? You are deceiving them into divisiveness. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 3:11 PM
                                14. Re: I am deceiving human beings? You are deceiving them into divisiveness. - almario on Jan 18, 2017, 8:48 PM
     
  5. Tomas defending INC in ANY way is REALLY NOT the way to begin 2017! View Thread - Eric on Jan 4, 2017, 5:19 PM
    1. I am defending Bible truth about various denominations preaching the gospel, - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 11:00 PM
      1. Re: I am defending Bible truth about various denominations preaching the gospel, - almario on Jan 7, 2017, 11:54 AM
        1. INC doctrine divided the one and only God? They teach God is one, undivided. - Tomas on Jan 8, 2017, 7:53 AM
          1. Re: INC doctrine divided the one and only God? They teach God is one, undivided. - almario on Jan 8, 2017, 2:58 PM
            1. INC do not divide the One and Only God, and they believe that Christ manifested - Tomasq on Jan 9, 2017, 5:18 AM
              1. Re: INC do not divide the One and Only God, and they believe that Christ manifested - John Snow on Jan 9, 2017, 5:35 AM
                1. OK, so INC became too dogmatic that Christ is not God. - Tomas on Jan 11, 2017, 6:44 AM
              2. Re: INC do not divide the One and Only God, and they believe that Christ manifested - almario on Jan 9, 2017, 11:49 AM
                1. It is their doctrine. I studied enough to know that what I wrote is their doctrine. - Tomas on Jan 11, 2017, 6:49 AM
                  1. Re: It is their doctrine. I studied enough to know that what I wrote is their doctrine. - almario on Jan 11, 2017, 1:38 PM
                    1. Yes, INC believes in all these verses. Though of course they would use 1 Tim. 3:16 - Tomas on Jan 12, 2017, 2:42 AM
                      1. Re: Yes, INC believes in all these verses. Though of course they would use 1 Tim. 3:16 - John Snow on Jan 12, 2017, 6:12 AM
                        1. Yes, our Lord is good. Though I realize you meant it only as an exclamation. - Tomas on Jan 13, 2017, 6:16 AM
                      2. Re: Yes, INC believes in all these verses. Though of course they would use 1 Tim. 3:16 - almario on Jan 12, 2017, 3:11 PM
                        1. Look at the inspired Greek of John 20:28. The words Lord and God are in the nominative - Tomas on Jan 13, 2017, 6:19 AM
                          1. Re: Look at the inspired Greek of John 20:28. The words Lord and God are in the nominative - almario on Jan 13, 2017, 2:05 PM
                            1. INC does not seem to be familiar with that fact, they don't use it in their argument. - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 3:36 AM
                              1. Re: INC does not seem to be familiar with that fact, they don't use it in their argument. - almario on Jan 14, 2017, 2:18 PM
                                1. That's your opinion. Then try to explain why the Greek text has the nominative - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 9:53 PM
                                2. Re: INC does not seem to be familiar with that fact, they don't use it in their argument. - almario on Jan 15, 2017, 1:08 AM
                                3. Looks like you have not even studied the Greek language. Clearly you can't - Tomas on Jan 16, 2017, 3:29 AM
                                4. Re: Looks like you have not even studied the Greek language. Clearly you can't - almario on Jan 16, 2017, 2:52 PM
                                5. I studied ancient Greek already in college. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 11:09 AM
                                6. Re: I studied ancient Greek already in college. - almario on Jan 18, 2017, 1:55 PM
                                7. I didn't say John 20:28 is translated wrongly in KJV. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 3:23 PM
                                8. Re: I didn't say John 20:28 is translated wrongly in KJV. - almario on Jan 18, 2017, 7:49 PM
     
  6. Does anyone know if INC takes has an opinion about mental health prescriptions? View Thread - JoJo on Jan 29, 2014, 12:22 AM
    1. I havent heard that one. They forbid joining unions and dancing at marriage ceremonies.. - Eric on Jan 29, 2014, 9:39 PM
      1. BS Psychology at New Era University (Iglesia ni Cristo) - INC member on Jan 16, 2017, 12:49 PM
        1. Farah Iman Deogracias (Top 10 Psychometrician Licensure Examination) - INC member on Jan 16, 2017, 12:56 PM
      2. IGLESIA NI CRISTO on MENTAL HEALTH / DISORDER / BS Psychology - INC member on Jan 16, 2017, 1:06 PM
    2. it might shed some light if you find out who converted your husband - just a suggestion - ASP on Jan 29, 2014, 11:25 PM
      1. Re: it might shed some light if you find out who converted your husband - just a suggestion - JoJo on Jan 30, 2014, 5:45 PM
        1. INC is a weird realm in this world, but there are still nice people in high ranks - ASP on Jan 30, 2014, 6:20 PM
          1. what I mean is although he is in INC payroll, he can still relate to people as normal guy - ASP on Jan 30, 2014, 6:31 PM
          2. BS Psychology at New Era University - INC member on Jan 16, 2017, 12:48 PM
        2. Iglesia ni Cristo Views on Mental Health / Disorder - INC Member on Jan 16, 2017, 10:50 AM
          1. IGLESIA NI CRISTO on MENTAL HEALTH / DISORDER - INC Member on Jan 16, 2017, 11:15 AM
            1. The Greek word for overseer is episkopos, from which English gets the word bishop. - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 11:17 AM
    3. I think it has to do with faith and trusting in God - mateo on Jan 30, 2014, 4:17 AM
      1. INCers look at the definition of narcissist and see how it applies to your leader - James on Jan 30, 2014, 3:54 PM
    4. Iglesia ni Cristo View on Mental Health / Disorder - INC Member on Jan 16, 2017, 11:15 AM
    5. Anxiety / MENTAL HEALTH - IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST) - INC member on Jan 16, 2017, 1:04 PM
    6. this could be locale / minister specific. please do a research on this throughly. - mzlplck on Jan 18, 2017, 2:21 PM
     
  7. Reply to the link below View Thread - Wayne on Jan 17, 2017, 5:01 AM
    1. Re: Reply to the link below - almario on Jan 17, 2017, 2:46 PM
    2. Wayne, even if you take verse 12 to have objective genitive, then you can't - Tomas on Jan 18, 2017, 9:56 AM
     
  8. Falacies of INC Doctrine # 3 View Thread - INC Minister EdMars on Jan 16, 2017, 2:18 AM
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  10. Gospel of Manalo Doctrine Lesson #4 View Thread - INC Minister EdMars on Jan 13, 2017, 9:19 PM
    1. This INC lesson is very biblical. But of course we should realize that the true church of - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 3:47 AM
    2. Also we should realize that those burned in the lake of fire will be burned up, - Tomas on Jan 14, 2017, 3:54 AM
     
  11. Gospel of Manalo Doctrine Lesson #3 View Thread - INC Minister EdMars on Jan 12, 2017, 1:14 PM
    1. A good lesson by INC, though occasionally wrong conclusions are arrived at. - Tomas on Jan 13, 2017, 6:35 AM
     
  12. Day 5 - My destruction in the only true church View Thread - hijo on Jan 7, 2017, 5:29 AM
    1. Re: Day 5 - My destruction in the only true church - John Snow on Jan 7, 2017, 5:36 AM
      1. Thanks for that John Snow - hijo on Jan 7, 2017, 6:06 AM
    2. the evil INC - hoopdedoo on Jan 7, 2017, 2:03 PM
      1. I would doubt that would work with a US court. After all, INC can say they have - Tomas on Jan 8, 2017, 7:08 AM
    3. It's that bad? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jan 7, 2017, 11:00 PM
    4. Claim your right given by 1 Cor. 11:3 - Sis Lori on Jan 9, 2017, 1:18 PM
      1. So I guess his wife will say she will obey God rather than her husband. - Tomas on Jan 11, 2017, 6:32 AM
     
  13. Experiment- The bible reading View Thread - hijo on Jan 3, 2017, 3:17 PM
    1. "The Bible is hidden in mystery.It is only revealed to FYM, EGM, EVM, and their ministers" - iamonewithGod on Jan 3, 2017, 8:57 PM
      1. Parts of the Bible are clear to almost anyone, parts are clear only to some, parts - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:21 PM
    2. Begin with " the thief" and ask her how he was SAVED? if NOT in the CHURCH? - Eric on Jan 4, 2017, 11:57 AM
    3. ASk her " Can God save ANYONE HE so desires? what about homeless woman? - Eric on Jan 4, 2017, 12:39 PM
    4. Failure - 2Nd night - Hijo on Jan 4, 2017, 2:54 PM
      1. I am praying you two can be reconciled and read the Bible together. - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:32 PM
      2. That is SAD! Your children's Spiritual well-being is the TOP PRIORITY! - Eric on Jan 4, 2017, 5:17 PM
    5. family - hoopdedoo on Jan 4, 2017, 4:39 PM
    6. Religion is a drug. Your wife might be going through withdrawal. - straight-outta-gehenna on Jan 4, 2017, 11:39 PM
      1. Don't take the creation stories in Genesis so literally. That would not make sense. - Tomas on Jan 5, 2017, 3:16 AM
        1. Keyword: inconsistency. Specifically, INTERNAL inconsistency. - straight-outta-gehenna on Jan 5, 2017, 12:19 PM
          1. Re: Keyword: inconsistency. Specifically, INTERNAL inconsistency. - straight-outta-gehenna on Jan 5, 2017, 12:45 PM
            1. straight-outta-gehenna makes a good point. balls in your court tomas.. - mzlplck on Jan 5, 2017, 2:19 PM
            2. God is almighty, so he can do miracles. - Tomas on Jan 6, 2017, 4:51 AM
              1. Re: God is almighty, so he can do miracles. - almario on Jan 10, 2017, 5:50 PM
                1. Good post. - Tomas on Jan 11, 2017, 6:29 AM
        2. Actually there's something to the flood story... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jan 5, 2017, 6:31 PM
          1. The ancient Egyptian myths did not have anything really similar to that. - Tomas on Jan 6, 2017, 5:03 AM
    7. Re: Experiment- The bible reading - John Snow on Jan 5, 2017, 7:08 PM
     
  14.   Almario, since that thread below is locked now, Mt. 7:22-23 does not say who was View Thread - Tomas on Dec 3, 2016, 5:45 AM
    1. Re: Almario, since that thread below is locked now, Mt. 7:22-23 does not say who was - almario on Dec 3, 2016, 9:45 PM
      1. In your Patropassian Oneness theology, how can the Father God die, - Tomas on Dec 4, 2016, 5:46 AM
        1. Re: In your Patropassian Oneness theology, how can the Father God die, - almario on Dec 4, 2016, 3:55 PM
          1. Being Patropassian, means that the Father went through the passion and died. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 5:57 AM
            1. Re: Being Patropassian, means that the Father went through the passion and died. - almario on Dec 5, 2016, 2:54 PM
              1. It can be a simple answer. Do you believe God was mortal before he died? Yes or no. - Tomas on Dec 7, 2016, 11:02 AM
                1. Re: It can be a simple answer. Do you believe God was mortal before he died? Yes or no. - almario on Dec 8, 2016, 6:15 AM
                  1. Somehow you are refusing to answer. Is it too hard for you? - Tomas on Dec 9, 2016, 6:31 AM
                    1. Re: Somehow you are refusing to answer. Is it too hard for you? - almario on Dec 9, 2016, 10:43 AM
                      1. So I guess then you believe God was mortal, since his body died, while his soul - Tomas on Dec 10, 2016, 1:17 PM
                        1. Re: So I guess then you believe God was mortal, since his body died, while his soul - almario on Dec 10, 2016, 9:29 PM
                          1. Maybe you have failed to see that in John 20:28, My Lord and my God is in the nominative - Tomas on Dec 12, 2016, 8:37 AM
                            1. Re: Maybe you have failed to see that in John 20:28, My Lord and my God is in the nominative - almario on Dec 12, 2016, 5:28 PM
                            2. Re: Maybe you have failed to see that in John 20:28, My Lord and my God is in the nominative - almario on Dec 12, 2016, 11:08 PM
                              1. I am not saying Jesus Christ is just a man. - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:31 PM
                                1. Re: I am not saying Jesus Christ is just a man. - almario on Dec 14, 2016, 9:25 PM
                                2. The identity of the Father is God. - Tomas on Dec 16, 2016, 6:16 AM
                                3. Re: The identity of the Father is God. - almario on Dec 17, 2016, 11:25 AM
                                4. So unless some kind of Oneness doctrine is true, then otherwise both the Father - Tomas on Dec 18, 2016, 4:29 AM
                                5. Re: So unless some kind of Oneness doctrine is true, then otherwise both the Father - almario on Dec 18, 2016, 2:43 PM
                                6. Of course we should not isolate the Old and New Testaments. - Tomas on Dec 19, 2016, 5:30 AM
                                7. Re: Of course we should not isolate the Old and New Testaments. - almario on Dec 19, 2016, 2:52 PM
                                8. The Bible reveals to us some things about God. But other things are not revealed. - Tomas on Dec 21, 2016, 3:31 PM
                                9. Re: The Bible reveals to us some things about God. But other things are not revealed. - almario on Dec 25, 2016, 5:26 PM
                                10. God has revealed enough about himself, in the Bible, for our needs. - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:02 AM
                                11. Re: God has revealed enough about himself, in the Bible, for our needs. - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:13 AM
                                12. Why do you think I am not saved? - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:17 AM
                                13. Re: Why do you think I am not saved? - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:30 AM
                                14. I am not a member of the Southern Baptist Convention. But I give money to one - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:48 PM
                                15. Re: I am not a member of the Southern Baptist Convention. But I give money to one - almario on Dec 29, 2016, 6:14 AM
                                16. Of course we are redeemed without money. - Tomas on Dec 31, 2016, 11:28 AM
                                17. Re: Of course we are redeemed without money. - almario on Dec 31, 2016, 10:03 PM
                                18. You were saying fellowship assembly in the cyberspace. But of course, - Tomas on Jan 1, 2017, 7:23 AM
                                19. Re: You were saying fellowship assembly in the cyberspace. But of course, - almario on Jan 1, 2017, 1:24 PM
                                20. No, I am not preaching the prosperity gospel. We should not pray to become rich. - Tomas on Jan 2, 2017, 6:09 AM
                                21. Re: No, I am not preaching the prosperity gospel. We should not pray to become rich. - almario on Jan 2, 2017, 4:40 PM
                                22. Jesus' words are spirit, but some need to be understood literally, in order to - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:49 PM
                                23. Re: Jesus' words are spirit, but some need to be understood literally, in order to - almario on Jan 5, 2017, 10:02 AM
                                24. If you interpret nothing literally, then you can have all kinds of fanciful - Tomas on Jan 6, 2017, 5:19 AM
                                25. Re: If you interpret nothing literally, then you can have all kinds of fanciful - almario on Jan 6, 2017, 1:44 PM
                                26. I would say that 'the letter killeth' means we should not just mechanically obey the - Tomas on Jan 7, 2017, 9:35 AM
                                27. Re: I would say that 'the letter killeth' means we should not just mechanically obey the - almario on Jan 7, 2017, 11:28 AM
                                28. Concerning John 6:63, that is a deep verse. The words of Jesus are spirit, - Tomas on Jan 8, 2017, 7:20 AM
      2. Easier to read English - Wayne on Dec 25, 2016, 2:51 PM
      3. 1Tim 3:16 & 1John 3:16 are just two of KJV's - Wayne on Dec 25, 2016, 5:34 PM
    2. Gal 1:12, if by revelation from Jesus Christ - Wayne on Dec 25, 2016, 5:28 PM
      1. Christ revealed the gospel to Paul. - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:06 AM
        1. Whoever receives religious teachings from Tomas - Wayne on Dec 31, 2016, 3:04 PM
          1. Yes, I am a man. But you should not change verse 12. Revelation of Jesus - Tomas on Jan 1, 2017, 7:27 AM
            1. Re: Yes, I am a man. But you should not change verse 12. Revelation of Jesus - almario on Jan 7, 2017, 11:57 AM
              1. It is certainly possible that Jesus Christ is the One and only God. - Tomas on Jan 8, 2017, 7:29 AM
                1. Re: It is certainly possible that Jesus Christ is the One and only God. - almario on Jan 8, 2017, 2:49 PM
                  1. God identified himself, but did not say everything about himself. - Tomas on Jan 9, 2017, 5:20 AM
                    1. Re: God identified himself, but did not say everything about himself. - almario on Jan 9, 2017, 12:18 PM
     
  15. My destruction - In the only true church View Thread - hijo on Jan 1, 2017, 12:09 PM
    1. Re: My destruction - In the only true church - almario on Jan 1, 2017, 1:40 PM
    2. PARAMOUNT in importance is to FREE your kids of this CULT - Eric on Jan 1, 2017, 2:17 PM
    3. I didn't know that about your wife and kids... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jan 1, 2017, 8:39 PM
    4. We all feel the same way. - iamonewithGod on Jan 1, 2017, 8:57 PM
    5. thanks for those words of support and hope - hijo on Jan 2, 2017, 12:10 AM
      1. You're not alone, there are a lot of us, though majority are still in the dark - iamonewithGod on Jan 2, 2017, 2:25 AM
      2. Ease your sadness with the BIBLE. and for inspiration and GUIDANCE - Eric on Jan 2, 2017, 12:43 PM
        1. That is so good to hear - Hijo on Jan 2, 2017, 12:55 PM
          1. Well dont be so sure! Now my wife got ANOTHER friend to leave!! - Eric on Jan 2, 2017, 12:56 PM
            1. How so? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jan 3, 2017, 1:40 PM
      3. do not give up on love - hoopdedoo on Jan 3, 2017, 4:23 PM
    6. Day 3 - I didnt attend the cumpulsory worship service tonight - hijo on Jan 5, 2017, 2:56 PM
      1. Yup, you didn't miss anything... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Jan 5, 2017, 3:29 PM
        1. Yeah, the ministerial student was boring. If not for the deacon besides me. - iamonewithGod on Jan 6, 2017, 4:24 AM
      2. youre not alone hijo. keep thinking positive - mzlplck on Jan 5, 2017, 3:30 PM
    7. Day 4 - Fellow sufferers thanks - hijo on Jan 6, 2017, 1:48 AM
      1. I am hopeful - hoopdedoo on Jan 7, 2017, 2:12 PM
        1. hope so - hijo on Jan 8, 2017, 11:08 AM
     
  16. Could my relationship with an INC member put him in jeopardy? View Thread - INCgoersGF on Feb 23, 2014, 10:14 PM
    1. keep us updated as there will be lots of Crying. you know Filipinos are into Overacting OA - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 23, 2014, 11:30 PM
    2. dating outside of the INC will cause problems if people gossip (which they do) - WormJacob on Feb 24, 2014, 1:50 AM
    3. The parents are fanatics - HiJo on Feb 24, 2014, 2:50 AM
    4. JEOPARDY will be for YOU by getting involved with INC - Eric on Feb 24, 2014, 1:06 PM
    5. I don't know this boy, but.... - jhenry69 on Feb 24, 2014, 5:34 PM
    6. To all of the above commentors - INCgoersGF on Feb 25, 2014, 12:46 AM
      1. I didn't read any of the other comments. But please don't give up that easy on your love . - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 25, 2014, 4:01 PM
        1. Herr Guenter, you remember 1 Tim 1-5 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 25, 2014, 4:27 PM
          1. Marriage to me was forbidden? How so? If you mean forbidden by INC, that's right. But - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 25, 2014, 4:34 PM
            1. you got it correct, Herr Oberst - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 25, 2014, 4:43 PM
              1. Herr Oberst? You make me smile. I never was in any military service ... - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 25, 2014, 11:12 PM
                1. Yes Sir, I call you Colonel as a sign of respect, Herr Guenter - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 27, 2014, 12:21 AM
                  1. I'm flattered. Oberst Ozzy. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 27, 2014, 12:23 AM
        2. Praise God - INCgoersGF on Feb 25, 2014, 6:35 PM
          1. The blue print for success is.. - Eric on Feb 25, 2014, 7:47 PM
            1. Amen - INCgoersGF on Feb 26, 2014, 11:17 PM
              1. Yes she was born in it. That's all she knew when I met her - Eric on Feb 27, 2014, 1:10 AM
          2. One of the first things I did, I had her read the parable that Jesus told about the - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 25, 2014, 11:43 PM
            1. Thank you! - INCgoersGF on Feb 26, 2014, 11:12 PM
              1. The good thing is, he still talks with you although he seemed to have realized, that you - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 27, 2014, 12:22 AM
                1. I think you misunderstand my use of "confrontation" - INCgoersGF on Feb 28, 2014, 4:52 PM
              2. Col Madam INCgoersGF - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 27, 2014, 2:10 AM
                1. Structured is a very mild expression for the way INC in the Philippines is organized. I'd - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 27, 2014, 3:19 AM
                  1. US Airforce Bob Pellien did threats that went beyond declaring internal condemnation - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Mar 1, 2014, 3:38 AM
                2. I will keep this in mind - INCgoersGF on Feb 28, 2014, 4:43 PM
        3. Re: I didn't read any of the other comments. But please don't give up that easy on your love . - Princess on Feb 10, 2015, 12:17 PM
          1. Princess, its simple really. NON negotiable. You convert or wall away. - mzlplck on Feb 10, 2015, 12:35 PM
            1. I meant "walk away" - mzlplck on Feb 10, 2015, 12:35 PM
            2. mzlpick, I have to disagree based on personal experience. I know quite a few ex INC - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 25, 2015, 7:55 PM
              1. or, its worth the booty call :p LOL! - mzlplck on Feb 25, 2015, 9:55 PM
          2. I'd love to send you my list of INC contradictions. I would need your email address. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 25, 2015, 6:24 AM
        4. i read your reply i need someone to talk to that i know that it will help me a lot - ekay on Jan 5, 2017, 2:17 PM
          1. You can attend INC indoctrination lessons, but if in the end you are not convinced, - Tomas on Jan 6, 2017, 5:16 AM
    7. I did a special post to help you out - Capt. Seabird on Feb 27, 2014, 3:02 AM
      1. Yes Sir! - INCgoersGF on Feb 28, 2014, 4:41 PM
    8. I went through a similar situation. - I.N.D. on Feb 12, 2015, 3:32 PM
     
  17. What does it mean to "ADD to the WORD of GOD" ? View Thread - Eric on Dec 29, 2016, 4:51 PM
    1. INC believes in the 66 books of the Bible, no other inspired book that would be - Tomas on Dec 31, 2016, 11:02 AM
      1. That is NOT what it means to "ADD to the BIBLE" - Eric on Dec 31, 2016, 10:11 PM
        1. So what do you think it means? - Tomas on Jan 1, 2017, 6:49 AM
      2. Re: INC believes in the 66 books of the Bible, no other inspired book that would be - John Snow on Jan 1, 2017, 6:35 AM
        1. So INC misinterprets some verses, like applying some verses to FYM. - Tomas on Jan 1, 2017, 7:00 AM
          1. Re: So INC misinterprets some verses, like applying some verses to FYM. - John Snow on Jan 1, 2017, 5:05 PM
            1. Not adding, just a misinterpretation. - Tomas on Jan 2, 2017, 5:58 AM
              1. Re: Not adding, just a misinterpretation. - John Snow on Jan 2, 2017, 6:55 AM
                1. I don't believe Felix Manalo's claims about himself. That is why I said that INC is - Tomas on Jan 2, 2017, 7:01 AM
                  1. Re: I don't believe Felix Manalo's claims about himself. That is why I said that INC is - almario on Jan 2, 2017, 4:47 PM
                    1. Their leaders are not blind. They just need to follow what they teach. - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:37 PM
                      1. What WHO teaches? Why this CONSTANT defense of INC? - Eric on Jan 4, 2017, 5:18 PM
                        1. I am also frequently criticizing INC, for their wrong doctrines. Like no salvation after - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 11:09 PM
     
  18. For those called at this point in time .. - 01 View Thread - almario on Nov 24, 2016, 6:33 PM
    1. Ultimately, all will be called, but few chosen, less than half. - Tomas on Nov 25, 2016, 4:55 AM
    2. For those called at this point in time ..02 - almario on Nov 25, 2016, 3:50 PM
      1. Most will not repent even after their resurrection. - Tomas on Nov 26, 2016, 6:44 AM
      2. Re: For those called at this point in time ..03 - almario on Nov 26, 2016, 5:30 PM
        1. Yes, true Christians are the saved little children, literal little children are unsaved. - Tomas on Nov 28, 2016, 5:51 AM
        2. For those called at this point in time ..04 - almario on Nov 28, 2016, 8:24 PM
          1. I basically agree with this post. See my comments above, - Tomas on Nov 30, 2016, 10:57 AM
          2. Re: For those called at this point in time ..04 - almario38 on Nov 30, 2016, 1:46 PM
            1. I think that most Christians are aware that most people are unsaved. - Tomas on Nov 30, 2016, 9:55 PM
            2. For those called at this point in time ..05 - almario on Dec 4, 2016, 12:52 AM
              1. Jer. 31:34 will become fulfilled in the millennium. So now we still can teach neighbors - Tomas on Dec 4, 2016, 5:30 AM
                1. Re: Jer. 31:34 will become fulfilled in the millennium. So now we still can teach neighbors - almario on Dec 4, 2016, 3:57 PM
                  1. I agree. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 5:44 AM
              2. For those called at this point in time ..06 - almario on Dec 4, 2016, 4:35 PM
                1. Preaching another Jesus, has nothing in common with the arguments between Arius - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 5:53 AM
                  1. Re: Preaching another Jesus, has nothing in common with the arguments between Arius - almario on Dec 5, 2016, 3:01 PM
                    1. No one can know everything about God. At least none of us. Of course God knows - Tomas on Dec 7, 2016, 11:00 AM
                      1. Re: No one can know everything about God. At least none of us. Of course God knows - almario on Dec 8, 2016, 6:31 AM
                        1. Do you believe you know everything about God? - Tomas on Dec 9, 2016, 6:28 AM
                          1. Re: Do you believe you know everything about God? - almario on Dec 9, 2016, 10:58 AM
                            1. So you won't tell me if you think you know everything about God? - Tomas on Dec 10, 2016, 12:47 PM
                              1. Re: So you won't tell me if you think you know everything about God? - almario on Dec 10, 2016, 10:04 PM
                                1. You now claim you absolutely know everything about God. - Tomas on Dec 12, 2016, 8:30 AM
                                2. Re: You now claim you absolutely know everything about God. - almario on Dec 12, 2016, 5:55 PM
                                3. Of course God does not reveal himself to the unsaved. - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:52 PM
                                4. Re: Of course God does not reveal himself to the unsaved. - almario on Dec 19, 2016, 4:11 PM
                                5. prov 27:5 - almario on Dec 19, 2016, 4:23 PM
                                6. Yes, we need to rebuke the unsaved with love. They need the gospel, and repent. - Tomas on Dec 21, 2016, 3:01 PM
                                7. Re: Yes, we need to rebuke the unsaved with love. They need the gospel, and repent. - almario on Dec 25, 2016, 5:41 PM
                                8. You are trying to rebuke me with some philosophical analysis of my stand, - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 3:59 AM
                                9. Re: You are trying to rebuke me with some philosophical analysis of my stand, - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:58 AM
                                10. Philosophies are wrong, we need to depend on the Bible alone. - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:23 PM
                                11. Re: Philosophies are wrong, we need to depend on the Bible alone. - almario on Dec 29, 2016, 6:39 AM
                                12. In the beginning the Holy Bible was not divided into books? - Tomas on Dec 31, 2016, 11:08 AM
                                13. Re: In the beginning the Holy Bible was not divided into books? - almario on Dec 31, 2016, 10:59 PM
                                14. Invention of the printing press in the mid 20th century? You got the wrong - Tomas on Jan 1, 2017, 7:09 AM
                                15. Re: Invention of the printing press in the mid 20th century? You got the wrong - almario on Jan 1, 2017, 4:52 PM
                                16. You got mid 20th century in two places. The first one about the printing press, - Tomas on Jan 2, 2017, 6:00 AM
                                17. Re: You got mid 20th century in two places. The first one about the printing press, - almario on Jan 2, 2017, 4:43 PM
                                18. So you corrected the second occurrence of the mid 20th century, but - Tomas on Jan 4, 2017, 3:46 PM
     
  19. ANG NAPAKARAMING ABULUYAN NG INC? View Thread - poly cracker on Jan 4, 2006, 7:33 PM
    1. Hoy Ver, Sagutin mo rin ito! - Tata Tacio on Jan 7, 2006, 8:40 PM
    2. WALANG BATAYAN ANG ARGUMENTO MO - VER on Jan 7, 2006, 11:11 PM
    3. ITO ANG TUNAY NA SANDAMUKAL NA ABULUYAN .HEHE - VER on Jan 7, 2006, 11:52 PM
      1. Nagpapaligsahan po pala ang INC at ADD sa abuluyan. - Joe Ventilador on Jan 8, 2006, 2:00 AM
        1. Marami sa Katol-Liko - Katoks on Jan 2, 2017, 6:12 PM
          1. I have no problems with Soriano having massive debts, it was already proven - iamonewithGod on Jan 2, 2017, 9:03 PM
     
  20. MY GOOD NEWS for 2017: 3year anniversary of my wife leaving INC View Thread - Eric on Jan 1, 2017, 2:28 PM
    1. happy for you and your family - hijo on Jan 1, 2017, 2:39 PM
     
  21. Series 12 - Salvation Frauds of the Iglesia ni Cristo View Thread - Sis Lori on Dec 9, 2016, 2:09 AM
    1. We can't expect any denomination to be infallible, but still, INC is part of the church of - Tomas on Dec 9, 2016, 6:26 AM
      1. Tomas, infallibility can't be used as an excuse - Sis Lori on Dec 10, 2016, 1:05 PM
        1. Just because the leader EVM is corrupt, that does not mean the whole tree is corrupt. - Tomas on Dec 10, 2016, 1:36 PM
          1. Re: Just because the leader EVM is corrupt, that does not mean the whole tree is corrupt. - almario on Dec 11, 2016, 3:41 PM
            1. with corrections - almario on Dec 11, 2016, 3:43 PM
              1. sorry, again with corrections - almario on Dec 11, 2016, 3:53 PM
                1. They have some bad doctrines. But then no church can be infallible. - Tomas on Dec 12, 2016, 8:06 AM
                  1. Re: They have some bad doctrines. But then no church can be infallible. - almario on Dec 12, 2016, 11:12 PM
                    1. We should not add or subtract from the Bible, but that does not mean we should not - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:11 PM
                      1. Re: We should not add or subtract from the Bible, but that does not mean we should not - almario on Dec 15, 2016, 1:24 PM
                        1. Are you saying you are not interpreting verses? - Tomas on Dec 16, 2016, 6:00 AM
                          1. Re: Are you saying you are not interpreting verses? - almario on Dec 19, 2016, 3:02 AM
                          2. Again!! GOD's written Words rebutting so-called literally inspired preachers - almario38 on Dec 19, 2016, 3:40 AM
                            1. No preacher is inspired by God, the only word of God we have today is the Bible. - Tomas on Dec 19, 2016, 4:53 AM
                              1. Re: No preacher is inspired by God, the only word of God we have today is the Bible. - almario on Dec 30, 2016, 7:32 AM
                                1. So do you think the comments by your cyberspace fellowship assembly - Tomas on Dec 31, 2016, 11:00 AM
      2. We can't expect any denomination to be infallible, but still, INC is part of the church of - HiJo on Dec 12, 2016, 6:30 AM
        1. I would say too much control in INC. Some bad doctrines. Too bad. But as long - Tomas on Dec 12, 2016, 8:03 AM
          1. Does INC preach the gospel? - HiJo on Dec 14, 2016, 12:25 AM
            1. They have errors in doctrines, sure. But they do not disagree with any of the gospel - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:06 PM
              1. Your a bright fellow have I got a deal for you - HiJo on Dec 15, 2016, 1:35 AM
                1. Silly. You are not being serious. - Tomas on Dec 16, 2016, 6:03 AM
                  1. Yes your constant "INC preaching the gospel" mantra - HiJo on Dec 19, 2016, 1:49 AM
                    1. I am just trying to follow the Bible. If you disagree with me, and say that in something - Tomas on Dec 19, 2016, 4:55 AM
     
  22. whats up! been a long time! View Thread - mzlplck on Dec 21, 2016, 7:38 PM
    1. INC is more of a cult nowadays. But still a Christian cult. So surely some in INC are - Tomas on Dec 23, 2016, 8:35 AM
      1. Re: INC is more of a cult nowadays. But still a Christian cult. So surely some in INC are - almario on Dec 25, 2016, 5:07 AM
        1. Blind leaders, when they preach the gospel? So hardly blind. - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:13 AM
          1. Re: Blind leaders, when they preach the gospel? So hardly blind. - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:51 AM
            1. Of course blind leaders will lead their followers into the ditch. But leaders of INC, SDA, - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:30 PM
              1. based on your criteria tomas.. - mzlplck on Dec 28, 2016, 2:24 PM
                1. Not quite accurate. Churches that preach the gospel are those that believe - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 3:03 PM
                  1. based on your criteria tomas.. (revised) - mzlplck on Dec 28, 2016, 3:22 PM
                    1. Yes, that is correct, according to the Bible. - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 6:43 PM
     
  23. IS TOMAS the last standing INC DEFENDER? View Thread - Eric on Dec 24, 2016, 2:26 PM
    1. Re: IS TOMAS the last standing INC DEFENDER? - almario on Dec 24, 2016, 7:13 PM
    2. I defend them when they preach the gospel, but I criticize some of their doctrines. - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:14 AM
    3. I also criticize the corruption that seems to be happening at the top of INC now. - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:59 PM
     
  24. 2016 INC DEFENDER of the YEAR? MY vote is for TOMAS! lol View Thread - Eric on Dec 21, 2016, 8:33 AM
    1. I am both defender and critic of INC. - Tomas on Dec 21, 2016, 2:31 PM
      1. Defending a CULT that adds to the bible is why you are the 2016 WINNER - Eric on Dec 22, 2016, 2:15 AM
        1. A worthy winner - Mostly because hi is the only one left - Hijo on Dec 22, 2016, 5:31 AM
        2. How are they adding? Twisting, yes... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Dec 22, 2016, 1:52 PM
        3. Eric, so they are adding interpretations. Aren't all Christians doing that? - Tomas on Dec 23, 2016, 8:26 AM
          1. How does INC add to the WORD of GOD? Let me ENLIGHTEN you - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:18 PM
            1. Teaching ONE BAPTISM refers to ONLY a WATER baptism in their CHURCH! - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:19 PM
            2. teaching CHURCH being the BODY of CHRIST is ONLY INC - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:20 PM
            3. Teaching not one person for 1900 years TAUGHT the WORD of GOD - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:21 PM
            4. Teaching in that 1900 years people paid for their own sins by whats on their HEARTS..lo - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:22 PM
            5. Teaching TRINITY began with the coining of that by TERTULIAN ..lol - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:23 PM
            6. Eric, so they have some wrong interpretations of the Bible. But don't all Christians - Tomas on Dec 24, 2016, 10:57 AM
              1. saying no one was saved for 1900 years is ADDING to the bible! - Eric on Dec 24, 2016, 2:20 PM
                1. It is a wrong interpretation. Harold Camping had quite a similar claim, when - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:24 AM
                  1. NOTHING in scripture about NO ONE being saved for 1900 YEARS - Eric on Dec 26, 2016, 11:50 AM
                    1. I know that. I said it is a wrong interpretation of the Bible. In reality, - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:21 PM
     
  25. Check this guy's latest video about INC... View Thread - Iam1plus1plus1 on Dec 19, 2016, 3:48 PM
    1. I think he had a lot of videos exposing cults, INC, JW, Mormons - iamonewithGod on Dec 20, 2016, 12:23 AM
    2. Re: Check this guy's latest video about INC... - John Snow on Dec 20, 2016, 5:50 AM
    3. He's got some good points, but also some bad information. - Tomas on Dec 21, 2016, 2:56 PM
      1. He is CORRECT. where you think Felix got the 1914 from? - Eric on Dec 23, 2016, 12:29 PM
        1. From the fact that he registered his church in 1914 and then WWI started. - Tomas on Dec 24, 2016, 10:48 AM
          1. he took the 1914 concept from OTHER prior CULTS!! - Eric on Dec 24, 2016, 2:21 PM
            1. You have no evidence for that claim. - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:20 AM
              1. 1914 happened to him by mere COINCIDENCE?? - Eric on Dec 27, 2016, 4:33 AM
                1. Well, he started preaching his church in 1913, then registered it in 1914, - Tomas on Dec 28, 2016, 1:13 PM
     
  26. "The Philippine Arena is world-class" View Thread - iamonewithGod on Dec 25, 2016, 11:15 AM
    1. Christmas Clasico match in INC Philippine Arena? - Tomas on Dec 26, 2016, 4:11 AM
      1. Re: Christmas Clasico match in INC Philippine Arena? - almario on Dec 26, 2016, 4:17 AM
    2. Seems Empty. ... - underarmour on Dec 26, 2016, 7:48 AM
      1. And to think that they allowed a Christmas game at the Philippine Arena? - iamonewithGod on Dec 26, 2016, 5:05 PM
        1. Re: And to think that they allowed a Christmas game at the Philippine Arena? - John Snow on Dec 26, 2016, 7:04 PM
          1. Maybe to preserve the INC culture? But who cares? - iamonewithGod on Dec 28, 2016, 8:31 AM
     
  27. Untitled View Thread - almario on Dec 25, 2016, 4:52 AM
  28.  
  29.   "Why I am NOT an Iglesia ni Cristo; A Systematic Refutation of One of the Most Juvenile... View Thread - John Snow on Nov 19, 2016, 8:49 AM
    1. Want this one. Maybe it is available online for free? - iamonewithGod on Nov 20, 2016, 3:52 AM
      1. Re: Want this one. Maybe it is available online for free? - John Snow on Nov 20, 2016, 5:05 AM
        1. So it's not free? EVM also handles Amazon, perhaps? LOL - iamonewithGod on Nov 20, 2016, 3:12 PM
    2. Seems like a Catholic response to the INC... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Nov 21, 2016, 12:11 AM
      1. Re: Seems like a Catholic response to the INC... - John Snow on Nov 21, 2016, 3:46 AM
        1. Re: Seems like a Catholic response to the INC... - John Snow on Nov 21, 2016, 3:49 AM
          1. And let me clarify... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Nov 21, 2016, 5:12 AM
            1. Re: And let me clarify... - John Snow on Nov 21, 2016, 7:12 AM
              1. Yes, we should love the Catholic church, it is one of the true gospel churches, - Tomas on Nov 24, 2016, 12:48 AM
                1. STOP the INSANITY TOMAS - Eric on Nov 29, 2016, 10:39 AM
                  1. You objected to INCquisitor when he wrote that the church became dormant. - Tomas on Nov 30, 2016, 10:46 AM
                    1. Do some HISTORY! People were BURNED for having PRIVATE bible studies - Eric on Nov 30, 2016, 11:57 AM
                      1. Yes, people were burned. Many were killed, some were converted to Catholicism. - Tomas on Nov 30, 2016, 10:04 PM
                2. Re: Yes, we should love the Catholic church, it is one of the true gospel churches, - almario on Dec 4, 2016, 5:08 PM
                  1. The true gospel is the doctrines needed for salvation, which are the good news - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 5:38 AM
                    1. Re: The true gospel is the doctrines needed for salvation, which are the good news - almario on Dec 5, 2016, 10:00 PM
                      1. Hybrid ecumenism? I am simply going by the verses that say what is needed - Tomas on Dec 7, 2016, 10:54 AM
                        1. Re: Hybrid ecumenism? I am simply going by the verses that say what is needed - almario on Dec 9, 2016, 11:08 AM
                          1. I am not isolating scriptures from other scriptures. - Tomas on Dec 10, 2016, 11:59 AM
                            1. Re: I am not isolating scriptures from other scriptures. - almario on Dec 11, 2016, 3:12 PM
                              1. I am not adding to the written sacred words of God. - Tomas on Dec 12, 2016, 8:20 AM
                                1. Re: I am not adding to the written sacred words of God. - almario on Dec 12, 2016, 6:00 PM
                                2. I am not adding or diminishing from God's real and absolute identity. - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:39 PM
                                3. Re: I am not adding or diminishing from God's real and absolute identity. - almario on Dec 15, 2016, 1:42 PM
                                4. Yes, I am sure. - Tomas on Dec 16, 2016, 5:53 AM
                                5. Re: Yes, I am sure. - almario on Dec 17, 2016, 11:39 AM
                                6. I am sorry to say that you are so contemptuous of doctrines of Christians who - Tomas on Dec 18, 2016, 3:59 AM
                                7. Re: I am sorry to say that you are so contemptuous of doctrines of Christians who - almario on Dec 18, 2016, 3:17 PM
                                8. Of course INC is wrong in being so exclusivist. - Tomas on Dec 19, 2016, 5:16 AM
                                9. Re: Of course INC is wrong in being so exclusivist. - almario on Dec 19, 2016, 3:17 PM
                                10. There is good division, we need to be divided from false gospels. But there is bad - Tomas on Dec 21, 2016, 3:15 PM
                                11. Re: There is good division, we need to be divided from false gospels. But there is bad - almario on Dec 22, 2016, 4:12 AM
                                12. Many are called but few are chosen, but those few include already millions. - Tomas on Dec 23, 2016, 8:30 AM
                                13. Re: Many are called but few are chosen, but those few include already millions. - almario on Dec 23, 2016, 3:17 PM
        2. I stand corrected... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Nov 22, 2016, 5:41 PM
          1. Well, God loves non-denominational saved Christians too, even when they are hostile - Tomas on Nov 24, 2016, 12:51 AM
            1. Re: Well, God loves non-denominational saved Christians too, even when they are hostile - almario on Nov 30, 2016, 12:22 PM
              1. I do search the scriptures. So what problems do you see? Just the fact that - Tomas on Nov 30, 2016, 10:07 PM
                1. Re: I do search the scriptures. So what problems do you see? Just the fact that - almario on Dec 1, 2016, 1:45 AM
                  1. Of course I agree that only God's written words are infallible. - Tomas on Dec 1, 2016, 3:43 AM
                    1. Re: Of course I agree that only God's written words are infallible. - almario on Dec 1, 2016, 11:37 AM
                      1. I am not a minister. - Tomas on Dec 2, 2016, 6:52 AM
                        1. Re: I am not a minister. - almario on Dec 2, 2016, 12:36 PM
                          1. Sure, no problem, I ask God for wisdom, in faith, and he gives me more wisdom. - Tomas on Dec 3, 2016, 5:50 AM
                            1. Re: Sure, no problem, I ask God for wisdom, in faith, and he gives me more wisdom. - almario on Dec 3, 2016, 8:47 PM
                              1. Mt. 7:22-23 should be clear, they were unsaved, so Jesus never knew them, - Tomas on Dec 4, 2016, 5:53 AM
                                1. Re: Mt. 7:22-23 should be clear, they were unsaved, so Jesus never knew them, - almario on Dec 4, 2016, 3:44 PM
                                2. No, I do not agree with INC on some of the salvation issues. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 5:43 AM
                                3. Re: No, I do not agree with INC on some of the salvation issues. - almario on Dec 5, 2016, 3:12 PM
                                4. I agree. - Tomas on Dec 7, 2016, 10:56 AM
                                5. Re: I agree. - almario on Dec 9, 2016, 11:23 AM
                                6. The true gospel is not the whole Bible, but it is the good news doctrines that we - Tomas on Dec 10, 2016, 12:42 PM
                                7. Re: The true gospel is not the whole Bible, but it is the good news doctrines that we - almario on Dec 11, 2016, 2:11 AM
                                8. I do not follow false apostles, there can be no one who qualifies to be an apostle - Tomas on Dec 12, 2016, 8:24 AM
                                9. Re: I do not follow false apostles, there can be no one who qualifies to be an apostle - almario on Dec 12, 2016, 10:43 PM
                                10. The Household of God was built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:48 PM
                                11. Re: The Household of God was built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, - almario on Dec 15, 2016, 1:58 PM
                                12. The chief Cornerstone in that verse is Christ. - Tomas on Dec 16, 2016, 5:58 AM
                                13. Re: The chief Cornerstone in that verse is Christ. - almario on Dec 17, 2016, 12:08 PM
                                14. Wow, what does it matter whether someone calls himself apostle Frank, or just - Tomas on Dec 18, 2016, 4:17 AM
                                15. Re: Wow, what does it matter whether someone calls himself apostle Frank, or just - almario on Dec 18, 2016, 1:45 PM
                                16. Must we? Of course not. It is not required to put titles before names. - Tomas on Dec 19, 2016, 5:22 AM
                                17. Re: Must we? Of course not. It is not required to put titles before names. - almario on Dec 19, 2016, 3:42 PM
                                18. You did not provide any verse saying titles cannot be put before names, - Tomas on Dec 21, 2016, 3:25 PM
                                19. Re: You did not provide any verse saying titles cannot be put before names, - almario on Dec 22, 2016, 3:51 AM
                                20. Of course if there were a verse that forbade such functional prefixes, then I would - Tomas on Dec 23, 2016, 8:32 AM
     
  30. THE END View Thread - hoopdedoo on Dec 22, 2016, 4:24 PM
    1. It's really only a matter of time.. - iamonewithGod on Dec 22, 2016, 8:37 PM
     
  31. Wonder what happened to the Thanksgiving offerings? View Thread - iamonewithGod on Dec 20, 2016, 12:25 AM
    1. Re: Wonder what happened to the Thanksgiving offerings? - John Snow on Dec 20, 2016, 5:48 AM
      1. Didn't tell me, but about 70k was the loss of the CWS offerings. - iamonewithGod on Dec 20, 2016, 4:09 PM
        1. Regress in amount offerred - Kim Jong Il on Dec 21, 2016, 1:39 AM
          1. An hour long? - Iam1plus1plus1 on Dec 21, 2016, 2:53 PM
            1. I stopped attending the weekly meetings of locale officers. - iamonewithGod on Dec 22, 2016, 12:03 AM
     
  32. the INC scam theology View Thread - hoopdedoo on Dec 12, 2016, 4:36 PM
    1. Greedy leaders who love money are not saved. - Tomas on Dec 14, 2016, 7:57 PM
    2. Manalo xmas bonus and - hijo on Dec 17, 2016, 10:21 PM
      1. the letter. - hoopdedoo on Dec 19, 2016, 4:15 PM
     
  33. Your in a cult, stupid! Family expelled as wife refused to be fingerprinted View Thread - HiJo on Dec 12, 2016, 1:59 AM
    1. Don't call them stupid... - Iam1plus1plus1 on Dec 12, 2016, 2:42 AM
      1. Just cant stand it anymore but I have too - HiJo on Dec 12, 2016, 3:20 AM
     
 
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