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  1. What's the difference between an adopted son and begotten Son of God? View Thread - Michael on Jun 30, 7:20 PM
    1. trick question? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 30, 10:37 PM
      1. It's not OZZY. - Michael on Jul 2, 5:30 AM
    2. The begotten son has authority over adopted sons - INCquisitor on Jul 1, 12:44 AM
      1. Is that the difference between one begotten and one adopted? - Michael on Jul 2, 5:28 AM
        1. Jesus was the only man created by God through the Holy Spirit. - emmanuel on Jul 3, 10:47 AM
          1. So EMMAN, what is the difference between one begotten and one adopted? - Michael on Jul 3, 6:59 PM
            1. Haven't just answered that? - emmanuel on Jul 3, 7:30 PM
              1. Did you? Go nback to your post and see for yourself - Michael on Jul 3, 7:41 PM
                1. Thew difference, the Son was created through the Holy Spirit... - emmanuel on Jul 3, 7:49 PM
                  1. That does not tell the difference between a begotten and an adopted son EMMAN. - Michael on Jul 3, 9:19 PM
                  2. at some point, Eduardo Manalo will have to take a position in a sermon - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 4, 9:59 PM
              2. And perhaps you can also answer - Michael on Jul 3, 7:45 PM
        2. UP for INCQUISITOR. What is the difference between a begotten and an adopted son? - Michael on Jul 4, 8:24 PM
    3. We are not begotten by a begetting, by God fertilizing - Tomas on Jul 5, 12:57 PM
      1. I'm sorry to say, that does not answer the question Tomas. - Michael on Jul 6, 9:03 AM
        1. But that is what I mean, like I was begotten by my father - Tomas on Jul 12, 2:00 PM
          1. What you say is clear and right Tomas, about one begotten and one adopted. And so, - Michael on Jul 12, 10:51 PM
            1. Yes, God begot His Son in Mary quite similarly like - Tomas on Jul 19, 1:14 PM
              1. Re: Yes, God begot His Son in Mary quite similarly like - Michael on Jul 22, 5:16 AM
                1. God did not beget a human? - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:35 PM
                  1. Of course God didn't, Tomas. - Michael on Jul 29, 1:07 AM
      2. Re: We are not begotten by a begetting, by God fertilizing - Michael on Jul 14, 3:21 AM
        1. Yes, even these would be considered begotten. - Tomas on Jul 19, 1:17 PM
          1. So Tomas, - Michael on Jul 22, 5:29 AM
            1. Not necessarily a sperm, I can imagine God could have - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:40 PM
              1. You need not have to guess and imagine Tomas. - Michael on Jul 30, 12:36 AM
      3. Tom admits God fertilized an egg of Mary, but he is too impaired to realize that the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 14, 10:16 PM
        1. Where do you see in the Bible that God is unable to beget - Tomas on Jul 19, 1:19 PM
          1. Where do you see in the Bible that God fertilized an egg? But John testified that Jesus - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 4:18 PM
            1. How else did Mary's egg become an embryo? - Tomas on Jul 19, 11:11 PM
              1. Again, where does the Bible say Mary's egg was fertilized? Doesn't God have other means to - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 5:45 PM
                1. Maybe not by sperm, God could have fertilized the egg by inserting - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:47 PM
                  1. You misunderstood and it seems you misunderstood on purpose. Yes, Jesus' human nature was - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 3:53 PM
                    1. I have told here repeatedly that we can't know if Jesus - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:30 PM
                      1. You're language impaired like INCquisitor. Nowhere does John say the Jews "claimed". - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 3:44 PM
                        1. John wrote the unbelievers thought Jesus is God-but read also John 8:40 - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:56 PM
                          1. Where do you see the word "thought" or "claimed" or "believed" in John - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 9:51 PM
                            1. You didn't understand john 8:40 and you understand john 1:1? lol - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:57 PM
                              1. Please take some English lessons. Thank you. I will pray for you. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 30, 3:27 PM
                          2. see what Abraham did when he saw the Lord... Genesis 18 - |Judie_84 on Jul 31, 8:15 AM
                          3. That's why Jesus is both God and man. He was the Word who was with God in the beginning - |Judie_84 on Jul 31, 8:19 AM
                    2. Guenter, whose immaculate conception do you refer to in your post? - Michael on Jul 30, 12:43 AM
                      1. I'm a little bit puzzled. Is there any other than Mary's? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 30, 3:30 PM
                        1. Thanks for the clarification Guenter. I thought you were still referring to Jesus. - Michael on Jul 30, 11:26 PM
                          1. The relevance is that God is the Father of the the baby Jesus. We just don't know in what - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 31, 5:20 AM
                            1. I understand what you're saying Guenter regarding monogenes. - Michael on Jul 31, 7:24 AM
    4. LOL..and there is one more: The appointed Son of God. Also in the Philippines, like the - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 25, 2:26 PM
     
  2. Fine, you again testify your horrendous lack of knowledge when it comes to Greek grammar. View Thread - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 7:17 PM
    1. GREEK STUDIES - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 19, 7:35 PM
      1. Good questions. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 8:02 PM
        1. That professor was surely a trinitarian Christian. - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:17 PM
          1. The guy is not even Christian...nice try, Tomas. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 8:22 PM
            1. OK, so he was influenced in his analysis of John 1:1 by trinitarian - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:38 PM
              1. Nice try again, Tomas. This man knows Greek grammar!!! You're just guessing. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 8:43 PM
                1. Of course he knows Greek grammar, but he could have been - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:53 PM
                  1. Tom, here comes another nail for your coffin. I just read this on one of the websites I - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 9:05 PM
                    1. The Bible translators of course did not dare to write that, - Tomas on Jul 19, 9:14 PM
                      1. Arius WAS a heretic. It's good you're citing him for your defense. That tells us finally - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 9:36 PM
                        1. It is wrong to call a Christian a heretic, just because you disagree - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:26 PM
                          1. If you'd know the definition of heretic, you wouldn't even THINK of saying what you said - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 6:07 PM
                            1. The four canonical gospels? I have not seen even a hint - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:32 PM
                              1. What the Apostles preach are not weak hints. They were inspired by God to clearly say on - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 4:55 PM
                                1. Well, for example John 3:16 is a hint that Jesus might not be God, - Tomas on Jul 26, 5:13 PM
                                2. Here is where your confusion is, again. John 3:16 gives a hint that Jesus might not be - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 7:18 PM
                                3. The genes of God that fertilized Mary's egg might not - Tomas on Jul 26, 7:29 PM
                                4. You're going again by what is NOT and not, by what is. You're again adding to the Bible by - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 6:15 PM
                          2. heretic is like Tomas who teaches that we cannot know if... until the LORD comes. hehehe - |Judie_84 on Jul 25, 3:30 PM
                            1. and the Pest in this forum is no other than kumago who denies that Jesus is the Son of God - |Judie_84 on Jul 25, 3:32 PM
                            2. Judie, Paul himself said we see through glass darkly, - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:34 PM
                              1. did they apostle say we cannot know now whether Jesus is God or not? - |Judie_84 on Jul 31, 12:30 AM
                  2. One more thing: All the "gods" in the Bible you're referring to were created beings AFTER - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 9:17 PM
                    1. Yes, they were created. And the Son was created first, - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:30 PM
                      1. The Word is just a word, a plan in the beginning, not creation. - Kumag Ka on Jul 20, 7:05 AM
                        1. The Bible says differently. The Bible says: The Word was God. Where does it say, the Word - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 6:55 PM
                          1. we have to refer it to the experts- Logos can also mean thought, speech ,etc - Kumag Ka on Jul 26, 3:15 PM
                            1. OK, let;s read John 1:1 again and then replace "The Word" with your nonsense. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 12:14 AM
                              1. Yes,Gueter is like the devil who loves to quote ambiguous verses. - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:24 PM
                                1. Jesus said God is His own Father. That doesn't make Him Son of God? You're not the son of - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 30, 6:06 PM
                      2. Tomas, it's one of the MOST important doctrines of Christianity. The Apostles taught it in - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 6:53 PM
                        1. The apostles did not say it is important, much less necessary - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:00 PM
                          1. Consensus has been reached by most Christians that Genesis and science don't contradict - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 4:37 PM
                            1. As I told you, the beginning was very long, so the first one - Tomas on Jul 26, 5:24 PM
                              1. Here come your next huge error. You're again assuming what has NOT been said is true. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 7:10 PM
                                1. The books of John are nowhere defined in the Bible as the gospel. - Tomas on Jul 26, 7:35 PM
                                2. Well, yes, I was wrong. Only the book of John is a Gospel. The other three books are - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 9:41 PM
                                3. The four biographies of Jesus are popularly called gospels, - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:51 PM
                                4. Do you now need to invent your personal definition of "Gospel" like you invented your - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 4:32 PM
        2. THANK YOU FOR GREEK INFO - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 19, 11:00 PM
    2. These web sites know the grammar much better than you do. - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:13 PM
      1. You didn't read, they are calling it the "direct object"? It's still an object. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 8:41 PM
        1. OK, the christiananswers web site is wrong in calling it - Tomas on Jul 19, 9:08 PM
          1. I'm getting tired,Tom. Your wrong understanding of those verses has been - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 10:02 PM
            1. I don't agree with Arius either. He believed Jesus is a god, but not - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:37 PM
              1. It's not a possibility, Tomas, it's fact, as 2 plus 2 equals 4: God the Father plus Mary - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 6:24 PM
                1. By stating all that, you are going way beyond the Bible. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:15 PM
                  1. You need to read the documents of the First Council of Nicaea prior to making - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 4:03 PM
                    1. Why should I? They are not very good guidance for Christians, - Tomas on Jul 26, 5:38 PM
                      1. Why should you? Simple: It would heal you from your ignorance. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 6:47 PM
                        1. I don't have time to read all Catholic documents, - Tomas on Jul 26, 7:04 PM
                          1. Fine, remain in your ignorance on how Arian was convincingly and rightfully convicted as - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 8:54 PM
                            1. You are so divisive, making a big thing out of something - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:03 PM
                              1. Abnout 2 billion Christians are united against unbelievers like you. That's not enough? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 9:18 PM
                                1. I do believe in the truth in the Bible, so don't claim I don't. - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:03 PM
                                2. Minor thing? What is greater than God? God is a minor thing? YOU are making God a minor - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 4:28 PM
              2. Why not agree with Arius, Tomas? Is that not one of the many possibilities in you list? - Michael on Jul 26, 7:37 PM
                1. It is a possibility, but Arius wrongly made it a dogma, - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:07 PM
      2. the right solution for your enlightenment: the NETBible. "... and the Word was fully God." - |Judie_84 on Jul 20, 6:06 AM
        1. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jul 25, 3:29 PM
        2. Another inferior non-literal translation. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:02 PM
          1. Correct -- but no inferior "a god" either. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 11:02 PM
     
  3. Pilate said about Jesus "I find no fault in this man"! View Thread - Kumag si Judie on Jul 25, 12:10 PM
    1. Pilate was ignorant like most other Jews, he had no idea! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 25, 2:08 PM
      1. Where can we read what you are saying? - Kumag Ka on Jul 26, 3:44 PM
        1. Of course not. But Pilate did never have a chance to read John 5:18 and - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 11:13 PM
          1. So you have been putting words into the mouth of Pilate.lol - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:28 PM
            1. What words? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 9:53 PM
              1. what words? LOL. that he is ignorant about jesus and the verses - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:34 AM
                1. Where does it say Pilate knew that Jesus was equal with God? Where does it say Pilate was - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 30, 5:38 PM
          2. what else is he? did he say he's God too? - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:46 PM
            1. Pilate? Why would he? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 9:53 PM
              1. Hahaha, so you're brain impaired too? you just missed the point- reread. - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:37 AM
                1. What does "equal with God" mean? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 30, 5:42 PM
              2. Hahaha, so you're brain impaired too? you just missed the point- reread. - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:37 AM
     
  4. INC the cult you support View Thread - HiJo on Jul 29, 7:54 AM
    1. show convincing proof that they are a cult - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 29, 1:56 PM
    2. Many members do know it's a cult, but they are victims of entrapment. - I.N.D. on Jul 29, 2:52 PM
      1. There needs to be a replacement for the INC - Horizon on Jul 29, 4:05 PM
        1. The BIBLE: READ it and GOD will open your spiritual eyes if HE so pleases - Eric on Jul 29, 5:41 PM
        2. BELIEFCHANGE - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 30, 4:03 AM
        3. if not for the Catholic church, FelixManalo would be a Pinoy pagan & there would be no INC - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 30, 4:52 AM
      2. Definitive proof of INC being a cult! - HiJo on Jul 30, 3:43 AM
        1. or some Manalista males are just Sissies (no Guts, No bravery). No guts, no glory - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 30, 4:02 PM
     
  5. Jesus prayed, "Father save me from this hour" ! View Thread - Kumag si Judie on Jul 25, 12:14 PM
    1. Jesus the man, got crucified. Only a man can die. You'll never get it. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 25, 2:11 PM
      1. when he died whatever happened to his divine nature inside his person?? - Kumag Ka on Jul 26, 3:38 PM
        1. The man Jesus died. God, of course, never died. What is so hard to understand? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 11:59 PM
          1. You don't read anywhere? meaning you're eyes-impaired too? lol - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:44 PM
            1. You forgot to mention Hebrews 1:6. Why? Because they angels were told to worship a - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 4:37 PM
              1. the Catholic Bible Douay says "adore".Better that we ask the angels who we should worship - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:19 PM
                1. When you go back to the original Greek text, Hebrew 1:6, Rev. 22:9 and 19:10 are all using - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 30, 3:44 PM
     
  6. until now INC has not justified why it worships the creature Jesus!! View Thread - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:07 PM
    1. this dubious doctrine has proven INC is a false church. - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 1:30 PM
      1. Dude, them manalistas don't like speaking English. speak to them in their native tongue - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 30, 2:14 PM
     
  7. Who was the angel of the Lord who was Lord himself and was God? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jul 27, 12:32 AM
    1. that angel claimed he was "the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob". - |Judie_84 on Jul 27, 12:36 AM
    2. this has nothing to do with a FILIPINO WHO ESTABLISHED A CHURCH - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 4:53 PM
      1. felix who established the iglesya is a Filipino. no doubt about it. his church is a - |Judie_84 on Jul 30, 12:48 AM
    3. emman, INCquisitor... wer r u? - |Judie_84 on Jul 29, 11:25 PM
    4. This dude hasn't stopped hallucinating.Lol - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:29 AM
      1. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - |Judie_84 on Jul 30, 12:50 AM
      2. why don't you just answer the question? - |Judie_84 on Jul 30, 12:51 AM
      3. Who was the angel of the Lord who was Lord himself and was God? - |Judie_84 on Jul 30, 12:52 AM
        1. who? why don't you answer it with a verse, dude? - Kumag Ka on Jul 30, 12:09 PM
     
  8. Philippine Arena monies View Thread - Horizon on Jul 22, 5:46 PM
    1. Tomas says building Arenas with thanksgiving offering is Not a Sin. Are you disturbed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 23, 6:32 AM
      1. Bible Study Verse for Tomas. Let's teach Tomas about Mosaic Law. A Result is Pinas Arena - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 23, 6:57 AM
        1. Of course if we see that a Christian lives in sin, - Tomas on Jul 26, 3:09 PM
          1. COLONEL TOM, ARE YOU UNDER THE LAW? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 3:52 PM
            1. Haven't you read my answer already below? - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:29 PM
              1. you are full of wrong assumptions. Tom you won't answer my question - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 6:46 PM
                1. Yes, some Christians refused to recognize the revelation in Acts 15, - Tomas on Jul 26, 7:11 PM
                  1. you Lie Tom. The Law is Not abolished because the Law is Not abolished. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 7:25 PM
                    1. It is very clear for example in Colossians. - Tomas on Jul 26, 8:38 PM
                      1. you don't understand the Gospel. Tom, The Law is Not abolished - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 9:54 PM
                        1. Mostly a Baptist church. They sure don't believe - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:11 PM
                          1. Tom, I never said Jews don't need the Gospel I just said I disagree with you when you said - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:21 PM
                            1. The covenant with Israel was replaced with the New Covenant. - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:33 PM
                              1. what's the new covenant Tom between Jews and God? where is it in Old Testament? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:42 PM
                                1. The new covenant is for both Jews and gentiles. - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:45 PM
                                2. I agree with you Tom that the New Covenant is Offered to the Jews - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:54 PM
                                3. The covenant with Israel was similarly based on faith. - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:02 PM
                                4. Tom, the Bible contradicts you. Mosaic Covenant is not faith base, it is based on rules - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 1:42 AM
                                5. Tom is inventing information? Really? On top of having his own personal doctrines? Who - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 4:44 AM
                                6. i like Tom's creativity though. Tom tried to claim that Mosaic Covenant is Faith-based - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 29, 4:50 AM
                                7. To tell you the truth, I haven't studied the Mosaic Covenant, but I trust your judgment - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 10:03 PM
      2. Yes - Horizon on Jul 23, 4:18 PM
      3. The entire process of collecting money for the enrichment of the Manalo family is a grave - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 25, 3:25 AM
        1. It is not for us to judge if the pastor enriches himself, - Tomas on Jul 26, 3:16 PM
          1. Tomas is blind, as usual. Many "elders" of the INC that I have talked to in the - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 3:39 PM
            1. TOM HAS NOT SEEN HOMELESS KIDS IN MANILA AND RURAL MINDANAO FOLKS WITHOUT RUNNING WATER - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 3:47 PM
              1. Of course I know there is a lot of poverty in Philippines. - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:03 PM
                1. Tom, Jesus made it Impossible to obey The Law. Why did Jesus do that? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 7:05 PM
                  1. HEY MICHAEL, YOU TOPIC ON JESUS BEING GOD is getting boring. we agree with you - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 7:15 PM
                    1. Michael, are you Now with your wife in an INC worship service now, waiting for Ed Manalo? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 7:40 PM
                  2. It was impossible to keep the Law perfectly, without ever sinning, - Tomas on Jul 26, 7:22 PM
                    1. To My Jewish friends, that Tomas say God Abolished The Law - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 7:31 PM
                      1. I am not giving special thanksgiving offerings to any church, - Tomas on Jul 26, 8:43 PM
                    2. Tom, when you said The Law is Abolished, do you speak out of ignorance, intellectual disho - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 7:51 PM
                      1. Note the end of Mt. 5:18 'until all things are accomplished'. q - Tomas on Jul 26, 8:48 PM
                        1. I disagree with you Tom based on the Bible. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:04 PM
                          1. OK, we can agree to disagree on this. It is not important - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:14 PM
                            1. Tom, Revelation says The Jews will discard The Law and submit to Jesus - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:29 PM
                              1. Tom, when The Manalo family preaches the Jews are doomed, that's Replacement Theology - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:31 PM
                                1. Nobody is doomed now. If we die unsaved, we can accept - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:38 PM
                                2. so you admit that the Manalo theology on Salvation is Wrong. Manalos say Jews are doomed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:44 PM
                                3. Yes, INC has this popular doctrine that nobody can be - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:47 PM
                2. How can you call ANY church that is being run like INC plus is teaching a different gospel - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 8:23 PM
                  1. It is teaching the true gospel. That is the only qualification - Tomas on Jul 26, 8:51 PM
                    1. Fact is, they don't teach that Jesus is equal with God. The gospel of John tells us that - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 9:21 PM
                      1. You really believe we have to know everything in the gospel of John - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:05 PM
                        1. Tomas, Tomas, why do you say things like that? I wanted you to take a hard look at - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 4:10 PM
                      2. that old prophecy that Felix Manalo's grandson is the last INC executive minister, - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:08 PM
                3. Tom, you really can not appreciate poverty in Philippines unless you walk Manila streets - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:54 AM
                4. Re: Of course I know there is a lot of poverty in Philippines. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 6:01 AM
              2. By defending INC's practices of robbing the poorest of the poor Tom does not even care - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 10:56 PM
              3. By defending INC's practices of robbing the poorest of the poor Tom does not even care - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 11:00 PM
      4. Colonel Tomas, HERE'S VERSE OF THE WEEK OF OUR ONLINE BIBLE STUDY. ARE YOU UNDER THE LAW? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 25, 6:35 AM
        1. Every saved person is under grace, so he should avoid - Tomas on Jul 26, 3:18 PM
          1. TOM YOU WONT ANSWER MY QUESTION. ARE YOU UNDER THE LAW? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 3:39 PM
            1. Of course not, even when the Law was still in effect, - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:14 PM
              1. Tom, you don't understand the Abrahamic Covenant - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 1:26 AM
                1. Tom doesn't understand the Bible, why would he understand the Abrahamic Covenant? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 4:47 AM
    2. ARENA MONEY - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 23, 7:23 AM
      1. Like Los Vegas - HiJo on Jul 23, 10:30 AM
        1. Re: Like Los Vegas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 23, 2:34 PM
      2. Re: ARENA MONEY - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 23, 2:38 PM
        1. Re arena money - Horizon on Jul 24, 6:22 PM
    3. Maybe you should... - jhenry69 on Jul 23, 3:38 PM
    4. Re: Philippine Arena monies - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 23, 3:55 PM
      1. ARENA'S OTHER INCOME - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 23, 11:32 PM
        1. ARENA INCOME II - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 23, 11:43 PM
          1. that's funny, Admiral Promdi - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 4:09 PM
        2. Pope Francis is going to visit Manila. So is he going to preach at Philippine Arena? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:48 AM
    5. I like Colonel Tomas. When Tom is trapped in a corner, Tom just evades the question - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 4:02 PM
      1. Be patient, I was busy on another thread, I was not refusingq - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:17 PM
        1. Tom, Do you Submit to The Law? Tom, do you stay away from Thieves? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:11 PM
          1. No way, nobody should submit to the Law of Moses. - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:21 PM
            1. exactly Tom, because we Submit to Grace. We do not Submit to The Law - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:25 PM
              1. All saved people are under grace. - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:43 PM
                1. those atheist are funny. they're upset about Manalo inside-dirt discussion in this forum - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:47 PM
                  1. I guess they don't like rumors either. - Tomas on Jul 26, 10:48 PM
                    1. Ed Manalo saw in this forum of pictures of his Human Trafficking INC ministers and cohorts - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 26, 10:56 PM
      2. Col Tomas, Here's the online Bible Study Topic for Next week - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:11 AM
        1. Col Kumag & Col Tomas, both of you are spreading A False Gospel - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 2:48 PM
        2. this has nothing to do with a FILIPINO WHO ESTABLISHED A CHURCH - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 4:58 PM
        3. Future Bible Study Topic, Tom: Ministration of Death & Condemnation is 10 COMMANDMEMTS - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 29, 6:48 AM
     
  9. No worldwide flood? View Thread - emmanuel on Jun 20, 10:47 AM
    1. hi emman. do you already have your refutation on Hebrews 1:1-13? - |Judie_84 on Jun 20, 3:57 PM
      1. how can you deny the deity of Christ with all those supporting Scriptures? - |Judie_84 on Jun 20, 3:58 PM
        1. God is spirit, Jesus was not. - emmanuel on Jun 20, 4:17 PM
          1. Judie's God is abnormal- he's both spirit and non-spirit. who can beat that? - Observer2 on Jun 20, 10:39 PM
            1. can you beat G--? why would your dark minute mind want to? Hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jun 28, 1:06 AM
            2. God can do and be anything and everything, He doesn't have to ask your permission. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 10:54 AM
          2. If Jesus was a mere man, how is it that he kept "appearing" to the believers after - |Judie_84 on Jun 20, 11:58 PM
            1. Was Jesus a mere man before he came down from heaven? - |Judie_84 on Jun 21, 12:01 AM
              1. Was the Word who as with God in the beginning, and was God, a man (flesh and blood)? lol - |Judie_84 on Jun 21, 12:06 AM
                1. The Word in the beginning was just a Plan/Thought, not man or flesh - emmanuel on Jun 27, 3:07 PM
                  1. How dare you say that line again emman. Who told you so? felix? - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 3:48 PM
                    1. Is felix more knowledgeable than the writer of the Gospel of John? - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 3:51 PM
                  2. What Bible translation has that emman? - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 3:55 PM
                    1. Logic and common sense said. - emmanuel on Jun 27, 4:04 PM
                      1. In truth Jude it's not,'Logic and common sense...' - jhenry69 on Jun 27, 4:52 PM
                        1. jhenry69, you cannot intelligently reason with language impaired people like Emmanuel. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 8:45 AM
                      2. is the logic and common sense of felix more reliable than the Bible? - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 9:41 PM
                        1. John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 9:43 PM
                        2. who was felix anyway before he "learned" that Jesus was not G-d? a shoemaker? - |Judie_84 on Jun 28, 1:10 AM
                          1. from whom did felix know that Jesus is not God? - |Judie_84 on Jun 28, 1:11 AM
                          2. are shoemakers more knowledgeable than those who studied God's Word? - |Judie_84 on Jun 28, 1:13 AM
                            1. Manalo sure studied the Bible!! Judie, my full response appeared somewhere else. Here is - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 10:21 AM
                  3. Satan (The god of this age) has blinded the minds of emman, kumago, Tomas, INCqui and all - |Judie_84 on Jun 28, 12:09 AM
                    1. I couldn't agree more. Not only are they blind, but also language impaired. You cannot - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 8:34 AM
                  4. The Bible clearly says -- also go to the Greek original and verify that!! -- "The Word - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 10:36 AM
          3. What do you mean by Jesus was? Did Jesus disappear? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 4:40 AM
      2. refute Hebrews 1:1-13 emman. you've been evading this issue for quite a time already... - |Judie_84 on Jun 21, 12:24 AM
        1. if you have the truth/are in the truth as you openly claim here, it should just be easy - |Judie_84 on Jun 21, 1:30 AM
        2. would you want to refute that emman? - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 3:55 PM
        3. The true God knows no other God. - emmanuel on Jun 27, 4:07 PM
          1. "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever..." the Father attesting to the deity of - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 9:52 PM
          2. "Jesus worship God." - and all the angels worship Jesus! - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 10:00 PM
            1. whre's the magic word? The Lord Almighty is God, Jesus is not almighty. - Observer2 on Jun 27, 11:52 PM
              1. Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 11:57 PM
              2. to worship the King, the Lord Almighty - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 11:58 PM
              3. Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth - |Judie_84 on Jun 27, 11:59 PM
              4. now prove that Jesus is Almighty in his own words. - Kumag Ka on Jul 29, 3:58 PM
          3. 'THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND - |Judie_84 on Jun 28, 12:11 AM
    2. That's right, emmanuel, that was a parable, no literal worldwide - Tomas on Jun 21, 5:52 PM
      1. Explain the meaning of verses. Make me believe you. - emmanuel on Jun 27, 3:05 PM
        1. The meaning of the verses is the earth deserved to be flooded, - Tomas on Jun 28, 1:03 PM
          1. How do you explain 'and the highest mountain was covered?' - emmanuel on Jul 3, 1:42 PM
            1. It is not literal. It is an expression of the total anger - Tomas on Jul 5, 1:54 PM
      2. John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - emmanuel on Jun 27, 3:21 PM
        1. All word in the Bible is truth, but some is not literally true, - Tomas on Jun 28, 1:06 PM
          1. Tomas, where did you get your basis to your answers? - emmanuel on Jul 3, 1:43 PM
            1. Come on, you don't take everything literally in the Bible either. - Tomas on Jul 5, 2:00 PM
              1. You explain the meaning of 40 days and 40 nights of rain. - emmanuel on Jul 10, 8:27 PM
                1. Forty days of and nights of God pouring his anger at - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:18 AM
                  1. Forty days of anger? How did you know God was angry? - emmanuel on Jul 17, 9:17 PM
                    1. God is always angry at sin, you can see it in plenty - Tomas on Jul 19, 12:14 PM
                      1. You are giving a very wrong understanding. What about Sodom and Gomorrah? - emmanuel on Jul 25, 4:38 PM
                        1. With Sodom and Gomorrah I see no reason to think it was not literal. - Tomas on Jul 26, 12:41 PM
                  2. Re: Forty days of and nights of God pouring his anger at - Karlos on Jul 26, 8:51 AM
                    1. Man responsible to God, Adam, was created around 6000 - Tomas on Jul 26, 12:54 PM
                      1. Where did you base your belief? - emmanuel on Jul 26, 8:45 PM
                        1. Do you think God would have wanted them to do disgusting - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:00 PM
                          1. Disobedience to the will of God is sin. - emmanuel on Jul 26, 9:23 PM
                            1. Even if God were to allow it, most people would refuse to do it, - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:39 PM
                              1. God's people are not doing what they wanted to do.. - emmanuel on Jul 27, 8:00 PM
     
  10. The official word of Manalo to the World... View Thread - jhenry69 on Jul 27, 11:55 PM
    1. The INCers have left this forum. They must be afraid of something! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 4:35 AM
      1. can't deny it. INC minister Dino Tigas Bunag of Oxnard California USA shakes in Fear - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 29, 4:52 AM
     
  11. Well, well, FYM sure studied God's word!! He studied especially hard after he lost a View Thread - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 10:14 AM
    1. Maybe FYM was never saved, but plenty of INC members are saved, - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:37 AM
      1. A college degree doesn't prevent you from being language impaired.You are the best example - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 13, 3:59 PM
        1. I happened to have a high score on my GRE test in English. - Tomas on Jul 19, 1:35 PM
          1. The Lord is God. Jesus is Lord therefore Jesus is God. - |Judie_84 on Jul 26, 12:16 AM
            1. In Jer. 10:10, Yahweh is the true God. - Tomas on Jul 26, 12:59 PM
              1. False! Hebrews 1:8 does NOT say "your" it says "of you", Greek " sou" - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 1:14 AM
          2. Anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, who translates the Greek "God was the Word" with "A god - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 2:52 AM
            1. Yes, a good translation refers to content and context. - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:14 PM
              1. You still need some help. You're insisting that prior to creation there was already a - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 5:32 PM
                1. In the beginning of creation, not prior to creation. - Tomas on Jul 26, 5:46 PM
                  1. With the huge difference, the Pope ALLOWS all priests to write their own sermons and - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 6:43 PM
                    1. That's good, but he dictates doctrine. - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:18 PM
                      1. Come on, making Jesus the worst shepherd the world has ever seen, thereby contradicting - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 5:42 PM
          3. And if you can't read in the Bible in at least a half dozen if not more verses that Jesus, - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 4:12 AM
            1. Every verse that has been claimed to say Jesus is God, has anotherq - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:21 PM
              1. You're falling back into your sinful assumptions about things that are NOT being said in - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 5:06 PM
                1. As I said, you misunderstand the verses you think say - Tomas on Jul 26, 5:52 PM
                  1. You're calling the Bible a book of confusion. It's NOT. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 6:32 PM
                    1. You just can't take 2 Tim. 2:7 that way, that would promise - Tomas on Jul 26, 9:25 PM
                      1. Paul "might" have meant? Certainly not, what you imply. Quantum physics is being - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 5:54 PM
    2. "it dawned in his malfunctioning brain that this brain is the only brain in the ..." lol - |Judie_84 on Jul 14, 12:29 AM
     
  12. Inc members as godparents View Thread - Horizon on Jul 17, 3:48 PM
    1. As long as $$$ is involved... - jhenry69 on Jul 17, 4:06 PM
      1. THANK YOU RE: ANSWER ON "WHY NO INC BIBLE" - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 18, 9:20 AM
        1. i don't think the money fees are the real reason - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 10:20 AM
        2. also, you Promdi wanted to bump this thread on Eduardo Manalo & Jun Santos - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 10:28 AM
      2. Re: As long as $$$ is involved... - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 2:55 PM
    2. Re: Inc members as godparents - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 17, 4:34 PM
    3. Ang-Sugo Film not releasing in 27 July 2014. release more likely October 2014 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 8:32 AM
    4. Here is why Lord Jesus is so Angry at Eduardo Villanueva Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 8:48 AM
      1. Jn 2 answers Judie's Very Easy question on when Jesus knew He is God - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 9:07 AM
    5. I lived in the Philippines for 11 moths, so I was there at Christmas. Many INC - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 18, 4:12 PM
      1. Re: I lived in the Philippines for 11 moths, so I was there at Christmas. Many INC - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 18, 4:42 PM
        1. INC members seem to have left this forum. They are running away from the truth. Too bad. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 18, 11:16 PM
          1. Eduardo Manalo might want to take a little peek at this - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 2:10 AM
      2. some Manalo INC ministers have NO self control with Women - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 2:27 AM
      3. OK, many INC members have plenty to repent of, like Christmas - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:01 AM
        1. You're missing the point, as most of the time. Here for you one more time so you have - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 5:32 PM
          1. Re: You're missing the point, as most of the time. Here for you one more time so you have - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 6:07 PM
            1. Actually very many evangelical Christians believe similarly - Tomas on Jul 19, 6:53 PM
              1. You're arguing just to argue. That's your middle name, by the way. My post didn't refer to - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 7:26 PM
                1. I was responding to Ozzy's comment, not yours. - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:19 PM
              2. ok Colonel Tomas, thank you for your insightful input tidbits - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 7:29 PM
                1. He did not specify a number, after all we don't know over the centuries - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:26 PM
                  1. so did that INC minister believe what he is saying by him saying G-d is cruel and mean? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 9:47 PM
                    1. Like evangelicals who send most to hell, he too believed - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:53 PM
                      1. Hey Colonel Tomas, you are an okay dude and enjoyable to talk with online - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 20, 2:15 AM
                        1. Yes, of Filipino ethnicity. He provided another exception - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:23 PM
                          1. Colonel Tomas, it looks like you witnessed Filipino Pride from that INC minister - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:44 AM
              3. Sorry, I misread your post, forget my first comment, except the middle name. That remains - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 7:42 PM
                1. If the leaders want to be rich, that is their sin, but anyway - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:35 PM
                  1. I can't believe, we agree on something: INC is NOT the "only true" church! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 8:46 PM
                    1. Right, the INC is only a small part of the true church. - Tomas on Jul 19, 9:16 PM
                      1. They are heretics like you. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 9:43 PM
                        1. It is not biblical to call heretics Christians who disagree with - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:39 PM
                          1. That's what you are, believer in gospels that wer not taught by the Apostles. Like Jesus - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 6:11 PM
                            1. I say instead that Jesus might have God's nature, we can't know. - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:27 PM
                              1. :Might" is having no faith. Therefore you will not be saved by faith. The Bible is clear - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 3:09 PM
                              2. Tom, here's how you can get to Know Jesus on a personal level - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 28, 3:22 PM
                              3. "My Lord and my God!" Thomas blurted out... - |Judie_84 on Jul 29, 1:10 AM
                          2. how about "false believers" or "false Christians"? - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 2:03 AM
                            1. That again does not apply to disagreements about if - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:30 PM
                          3. COLONEL TOMAS, HERE'S THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE MANALO THEOLOGY - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 4:43 AM
                            1. I am not familiar with that claim. - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:32 PM
                          4. GOOD ONE, HERR OBERST GUENTER. COLONEL TOMAS, TAKE NOTE OF THIS - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 4:47 AM
                            1. Herr Guenter, watch this topic on The Law make it as a discussion in Philippine Topix - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 4:55 AM
            2. I quit after the 15th Lesson or so, so I don't know if they ever are mentioning - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 7:32 PM
              1. ok Sir. Thank you for your response. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 7:54 PM
          2. Guenter, do you think those INC members truly think Christmas - Tomas on Jul 19, 6:43 PM
            1. I would speculate if I would have an answer for that. I am only saying, their behavior is - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 7:23 PM
              1. Eduardo Manalo also ordained 4-Rambos in his ministry ranks in Central Temple January 2010 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 7:59 PM
    6. I don't get it, godparents to a wedding? - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:10 AM
      1. Re: I don't get it, godparents to a wedding? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 3:38 PM
        1. Is that supposed to be a Catholic religious function, - Tomas on Jul 19, 7:12 PM
          1. Re: Is that supposed to be a Catholic religious function, - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 7:40 PM
            1. I guess then INC doctrine is changing, they want to influence - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:41 PM
              1. here is what we think is going on with Eduardo Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 20, 2:24 AM
      2. so Tomas you just discovered something many know which is - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 4:06 PM
        1. Many know it? I suppose if you visited Philippines, - Tomas on Jul 19, 7:22 PM
          1. just befriend USAF filipino men or USN filipino sailors - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 7:42 PM
            1. It is hard for me to befriend anyone, due to my social phobia. - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:44 PM
              1. DON'T BE SCARED OF STRANGERS iIN SAFE SITUATIONS - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 21, 11:56 AM
                1. I don't believe that beautiful people are more likely - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:43 PM
      3. Colonel Tomas, did your evangelical Pastor teach you that the first Miracle of Jesus - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 7:47 PM
        1. I learned it from the Bible. - Tomas on Jul 19, 8:50 PM
          1. my Pastors don't call it Holy Supper. you missed my inside joke - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 9:31 PM
            1. I agree, it is better to call it using a Bible term, - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:42 PM
          2. Re: I learned it from the Bible. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 9:33 PM
            1. I have no idea, I don't speak to the members. - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:51 PM
              1. okay, thanks for your answer, Sir. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 20, 2:16 AM
              2. dude, how are you going to survive in Heaven with your Anti-Social mindset? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 2:20 PM
                1. I am not anti-social, just non-social, too afraid. - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:51 PM
                  1. Tom, Anti-social is a very common American term and is not as bad as you say - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:37 AM
    7. Hey Wormjacob, this link would be a profound discussion in your iglesianiquitso forum - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 6:29 PM
      1. Abraham & Bubbles Espejo & INC minister Ariel Gonzales at Police Station - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 20, 6:15 PM
        1. Tomas, can you ask your Filipino pals why Bubbles Espejo & INC minister Ariel Gonzales are - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 20, 11:04 PM
          1. CONERING UP - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 21, 3:05 AM
            1. okay, thank you Colonel Promdi. who is teaching that, please. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 4:49 AM
      2. this network54 is really very Popular worldwide - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 12:26 AM
    8. Hey Emmanuel: you really need to tell Eduardo Manalo to control his INC ministers - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 21, 2:34 PM
    9. Col Tomas: BIBLE VERSE OF THE WEEK FOR OUR ONLINE BIBLE STUDY. lol - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 22, 4:44 AM
      1. It is called New Covenant, so it is new, not old, dating - Tomas on Jul 27, 12:03 AM
        1. Tom, you really are a Catholic who converted to Manalista doctrine - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 1:21 AM
        2. Tom, who taught you that God stopped offering the Faith Covenant after offering Mosaic Cov - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:32 AM
      2. Col Tomas, future topic of Online Bible Study: Matt 16:18 Jesus' Church - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 5:08 PM
        1. When the Apostles refer to the church (singular), they ALWAYS call it the Church of God. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 29, 12:23 AM
     
  13. "The true God knows no other God... Jesus worship God." by emman View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jul 27, 7:42 AM
    1. hehehe... the guy can't refute Hebrews 1:1-12 - |Judie_84 on Jul 27, 7:43 AM
      1. But really, why should he have to.... - jhenry69 on Jul 27, 3:14 PM
        1. Philippine fried - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 3:56 PM
          1. Emmanuel, WOW that manalista is Eduardo Manalo who said INC was established by a FILIPINO - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 4:03 PM
            1. You willfully misunderstood the meaning of your cited reference. - emmanuel on Jul 27, 7:42 PM
              1. Emmanuel Andaya, the newspaper is clear on what Eduardo Manalo said - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 8:11 PM
                1. Re: Emmanuel Andaya, the newspaper is clear on what Eduardo Manalo said - jhenry69 on Jul 27, 11:39 PM
                  1. Those parents now did not give their kids a "chance". - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 28, 12:45 AM
              2. Emmanuel, you freakin' baahstaahrd - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 28, 4:50 AM
      2. this has nothing to do with a FILIPINO WHO ESTABLISHED A CHURCH - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 4:57 PM
        1. Re: this has nothing to do with a FILIPINO WHO ESTABLISHED A CHURCH - jhenry69 on Jul 27, 11:42 PM
          1. yes, of course,He is God who became Flesh. I just didn't want Kumag to flood this thread. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 28, 12:44 AM
    2. why not talk about grand wonders and magnificent man-made structures, instead? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 4:29 PM
    3. I noticed Ozzy saw in Topix the public shoutout that INC was established by a Filipino - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 28, 3:33 PM
     
  14. THE HARMONY IN THE BIBLE -- for all friends of Arian like Tomas, Emmanuel , Kumag, etc. View Thread - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 21, 3:33 PM
    1. THOMAS, THEY'VE ABANDONED YOU - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 21, 10:57 PM
      1. Excuse me? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 22, 4:21 AM
    2. Why, isn't the Father God? When Jesus said he worshiped the Father - Kumag Ka on Jul 22, 3:25 PM
      1. I never said the Father isn't God. I said, John told us that Jesus was making himself - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 22, 3:47 PM
    3. Guenter, I consider all saved Christians my friends, even - Tomas on Jul 26, 11:17 PM
      1. Why do you assume I don't want to be your friend? In the contrary, I want you to be saved. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 28, 3:22 PM
    4. this has nothing to do with a FILIPINO WHO ESTABLISHED A CHURCH - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 27, 4:55 PM
     
  15. #1 INC CENTENNIAL Highlight: "You have LOST your SALVATION" You HAD it . Now you LOST it& View Thread - Eric on Jul 25, 10:53 AM
    1. EMAN: Can an INCer LOSE his or her SALVATION if they leave the FOLD of INC? - Eric on Jul 26, 1:01 PM
      1. I know INC will disagree with me, but I say it depends. - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:25 PM
        1. You're right... - jhenry69 on Jul 28, 12:00 AM
          1. Not quite JHenry. - Michael on Jul 28, 10:11 AM
      2. Yes. - emmanuel on Jul 26, 8:40 PM
        1. WRONG! Once you ENTER the DOOR. You cant LOSE your SALVATION - ERIC on Jul 27, 3:17 AM
          1. God will judge outsiders. - emmanuel on Jul 27, 7:53 PM
            1. Re: God will judge outsiders. - jhenry69 on Jul 28, 12:02 AM
        2. EMMAN, who do you say is the one that adds you to the church? - Michael on Jul 28, 10:15 AM
     
 
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