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  1. "I am not divisive. I love saved Catholics, Protestants etc." - by Tomas View Thread - |Judie_84 on Oct 12, 2014, 12:39 AM
    1. he also admires the INC's, followers of felix, the Cock from the Far East. - |Judie_84 on Oct 12, 2014, 12:41 AM
      1. Yes, those in the INC who are saved. - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 2:08 PM
    2. Judie, that's really a good confession of Tomas. Admirable indeed. - Michael on Oct 12, 2014, 9:46 AM
      1. If somebody adds to the gospel a non-gospel idea, - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 2:16 PM
      2. As I said, who cares then what one adds to the gospel? - Michael on Oct 25, 2014, 8:39 PM
        1. OK, we should care, because it leads to divisiveness. - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 9:37 PM
          1. Again too much about what others say Tomas. Please spare me from such. - Michael on Oct 26, 2014, 2:03 PM
            1. When I write what others say, that reveals what I think about the issue. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 9:04 AM
              1. You need not tell me what you think about what they say Tomas. - Michael on Nov 17, 2014, 6:56 AM
                1. Tomas arguments are laughable as most of the time. If you add or subtract something to - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 18, 2014, 12:42 AM
                  1. Why do you insult me by calling me a pervert? - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 1:24 PM
                    1. You're contradicting yourself. You're saying you're not a pervert but then you're saying: - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 6, 2014, 5:31 PM
                      1. Don't you know the word pervert normally means somebody like a rapist1 - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 5:51 PM
                        1. Pervert mainly for rapists? Well, my friend, you're wrong as usual. Here are the three - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 6, 2014, 7:02 PM
                          1. You gave the definitions of the verb pervert. That is very different - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 7:19 PM
                            1. Sexual perversion is -- if not true - a terrible insult, correct. Perversion of the Bible, - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 6, 2014, 7:35 PM
                              1. As far as perversion of the Bible, nobody is infallible, - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 7:41 PM
                                1. LOL. Whatever. Not even God can help you. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 6, 2014, 7:48 PM
                                2. God has helped me a lot already. Of course he has not made me infallible, - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 7:55 PM
                                3. Fine, if you believe God helps anti-trinitarians. God gave you free will - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 7, 2014, 5:07 PM
                                4. Yes, God helps not only Christians like me, but also Christian anti-trinitarians. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:45 PM
                2. The different gospel there is any gospel that perverts any gospel doctrine. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 1:14 PM
                  1. Tomas, can't you not understand what "different" means? - Michael on Dec 7, 2014, 7:51 PM
                  2. "... there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ." - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:32 AM
                    1. Tomas, you, kumago23 and the rest of you who don't recognize the deity of Christ are - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:33 AM
                      1. so guilty of perverting the gospel of Christ! whether you accept it or not. - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:34 AM
                    2. Why do you want to pervert the gospel of Christ Tomas? what would you gain for that? - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:35 AM
                      1. the Muslim prophet had his millions of followers. felix, a few millions? you Tomas, what - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:36 AM
                        1. do you get for preaching your false gospel? three close friends or even less? LOL - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:37 AM
                    3. You are a perverter of the gospel of Christ just like the Muslim prophet and felix the - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 12:38 AM
     
  2. Who is more ignorant of the Bible, Catholics or INCs? choose one only. hehehe View Thread - |Judie_84 on Dec 13, 2014, 10:29 AM
    1. The INC administration is not ignorant. They are purposely lying about the truth in the - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 14, 2014, 3:45 AM
      1. Is is a lie when INC say the Father is the only true God? John 17:3, Malachi 2:10 ... - emmanuel on Dec 14, 2014, 4:19 AM
        1. No, of course it's not a lie. The INC lie is that the Son and the Holy Spirit are not. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 14, 2014, 5:25 AM
          1. So then your belief that the Son and Holy Spirit are God is a lie. - emmanuel on Dec 14, 2014, 5:40 AM
            1. Here is your problem, you're citing verses that do not say that. There are many other - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 15, 2014, 2:26 AM
              1. You are good of accusing of me hiding the truth. Why don't you show... - emmanuel on Dec 15, 2014, 2:37 AM
                1. Now you not only have one problem, you opened an entire can of your problems. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 15, 2014, 5:02 PM
                  1. The old testament doesn't even mention the name Jesus. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 1:44 AM
                    1. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God." The Word - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:16 AM
                    2. the Old Testament testify about Jesus and his pre-incarnate ministry! - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:18 AM
                      1. There was no Jesus God in the beginning. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 2:32 AM
                        1. There was the Word who was God in the beginning, and was made flesh in the person of Jesus - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:30 AM
                        2. Jesus said the Scriptures (Old Testament) testify about him. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:31 AM
                          1. Abraham saw Jesus and was glad. Before Abraham was born, Jesus already existed as the - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:34 AM
                            1. DO NOT PUT WORDS IN JESUS'S MOUTH - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 5:18 AM
                              1. "No one has ever seen God." - the Gospel of John - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:33 PM
                                1. WORD misinterpreted - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 3:08 PM
                        3. You're such a cheap liar. Where is the word "plan" in scriptures, especially John 1:1? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 20, 2014, 4:39 AM
                          1. Where is the word Jesus? - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 4:42 AM
                            1. hehehe. you don't know where? did not the Word become flesh in the person of Jesus? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:34 PM
                              1. verse 17 "... grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:37 PM
                    3. “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!” - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:21 AM
                      1. I AM - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 1:14 PM
                        1. a lecture on which is literal and which is metaphor is in order. someone is confused hehe. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:41 PM
                          1. AD HOMINEM - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 3:11 PM
                    4. emman, you do not know that truth, you cannot accept that truth for you are not of the - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:24 AM
                      1. felix, "the Cocky False Preacher from the Far East"! - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:25 AM
                        1. he was a cocky Cock, was not he? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:26 AM
                    5. LOL neither testament mentions fym or any of the manalo dynasty rulers. - Jodlas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:02 AM
                      1. Oh wait. The bible does mention false prophets. Guess it did mention the manalos after all - Jodlas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:03 AM
                    6. you are but a man emma. how can you be so disrespectful of the Lord Jesus - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:48 AM
                      1. by saying he is but a creature, a mere man like you and your cocky Cock from the Far East - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:49 AM
                        1. the Messenger of the Last Nights! hahaha... - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:50 AM
                          1. reverence the Son, emma. i mean emman. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:51 AM
                      2. reverence the Son... - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:52 AM
                        1. That they may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:52 AM
                          1. called God his Father, making himself equal with God! - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:53 AM
                            1. I and the Father are one. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:53 AM
                              1. TRUE followers are ALSO ONE with the Father and Christ Jesus - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 2:12 PM
                    7. You didn't refute any of my statements. Instead, you have to hang on the name "Jesus". - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 20, 2014, 4:31 AM
        2. FALSE INC doctrines - Chris on Dec 17, 2014, 3:33 PM
          1. the INC is just after your money. a money hungry church... - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:31 PM
          2. What is your religion? - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 4:40 AM
            1. Define religion - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 1:32 PM
            2. Is INC the one true church of Christ? - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 1:38 PM
    2. look, who's the idiot is talking? lol - Observer3 on Dec 17, 2014, 10:51 PM
      1. Christ was alive when the world began, - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:20 PM
        1. Before anything else existed, there was Christ, with God - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:22 PM
          1. FALSE INTERPRETATION - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 2:05 PM
            1. Christ was created right in the beginning, so he was with God - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 2:54 PM
              1. check your premise - Chris on Dec 20, 2014, 3:19 PM
                1. The Father can create another person in the Godhead. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:31 PM
      2. You should not nominate yourself Observa3. you know a few more verses than they do. hehe - |Judie_84 on Dec 18, 2014, 12:13 AM
    3. the question is WHO? it could also be you but you're very good at twisting the meaning of - |Judie_84 on Dec 18, 2014, 10:59 AM
      1. Let's add another choice. Let's add kumago/observer3. hehehe - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:36 AM
        1. Among the Catholics, INCs and kumago/oberver3, who is most ignorant of the Bible? hahaha - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:37 AM
          1. Please pick just one among the three and explain your answer. LOL - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:38 AM
            1. emman, the hardheaded defender of the INC could also be a good choice. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 3:41 AM
          2. Kumago and Observer3 are terrible, if they don't like something - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:43 PM
     
  3. Did anyone read the book written by former Iglesia Ni Cristo minister, View Thread - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 8, 2014, 10:38 PM
    1. Well, if the leadership lies to the members, that is very sinful. - Tomas on Dec 7, 2014, 2:02 AM
      1. Yes, they are lying to their members and robbing members money to live the life of riches. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 7, 2014, 4:01 PM
        1. That is very sad. Like the expensive helicopter I keep reading - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:36 PM
    2. Where can i get a copy? - Mzlplck on Dec 7, 2014, 1:08 PM
      1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI7q0xXjVGs - jodlas on Dec 7, 2014, 2:23 PM
        1. Maybe Anna will watch thisd and wake up. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 7, 2014, 3:55 PM
          1. I hope that video will lead Anna to take a deeper study on the doctrines of felix, - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 7:55 PM
            1. Go, get your Bible Anna and read John 1:1-3, 14 and 18 and feel the power of those verses! - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 11:35 PM
              1. They prove overwhelmingly that Jesus was the Word, who was with God in the beginning, and - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 11:36 PM
                1. No need to listen to the false explanations of the so-called Ministers of felix, or to - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 11:38 PM
            2. Not only Anna, but also anti-trinitarian Tomas, needs to realize from this that Jesus - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 8, 2014, 3:30 AM
              1. I am not anti-trinitarian, God could well be a trinity. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:38 PM
     
  4. still unanswered by the Anti-Christ is God: "If Jesus is David's Lord, how is he his son?" View Thread - |Judie_84 on Oct 23, 2014, 12:03 AM
    1. kumago/observer3, INCquisitor, emman. Where are you? - |Judie_84 on Oct 23, 2014, 12:04 AM
    2. we'd start counting from today: it's DAY 1 - |Judie_84 on Oct 23, 2014, 12:05 AM
      1. Today is DAY 2 - |Judie_84 on Oct 23, 2014, 11:53 PM
    3. Whose Son Is the Messiah? Matthew 22:41-46 - |Judie_84 on Oct 24, 2014, 12:18 AM
      1. It's now DAY 3! - |Judie_84 on Oct 25, 2014, 3:10 PM
        1. still no takers? hehe - |Judie_84 on Oct 25, 2014, 3:11 PM
        2. It's now DAY 4! - |Judie_84 on Oct 26, 2014, 1:53 PM
      2. he's a descendant of David, what's your problem, dude? - Observer3 on Oct 26, 2014, 2:08 PM
        1. if he is a descendant of David, why did he call him "Lord"? - |Judie_84 on Oct 26, 2014, 11:06 PM
          1. Is the Lord greater than David? Why is that so since he is a mere descendant of David? - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 2:11 AM
            1. Why should David's Lord be his descendant? - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 2:12 AM
              1. He is David's descendant by human descent, but he already existed as a powerful spirit - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:22 PM
        2. It's now DAY 5! Still no sensible answer. hehehe - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 2:44 PM
    4. DAY 6! still no answer. - |Judie_84 on Oct 28, 2014, 12:23 PM
    5. DAY 7! Even Tomas, the defender of the INC, would not say a word about the riddle. hehe - |Judie_84 on Oct 29, 2014, 2:32 PM
      1. emman, INCquisitor. where r u? - |Judie_84 on Oct 30, 2014, 1:19 AM
        1. To all those who don't believe that Christ is God... we need your answers! - |Judie_84 on Oct 30, 2014, 1:21 AM
    6. DAY 8! and counting! - |Judie_84 on Oct 30, 2014, 2:01 PM
    7. DAY 9! whooahhh! - |Judie_84 on Oct 31, 2014, 3:03 PM
    8. Oh yeah, notice how the devil thrives in ambiguous verses... lol - Observer3 on Oct 31, 2014, 9:33 PM
      1. "ambiguous verses" means verses which i cannot refute, hahaha - |Judie_84 on Oct 31, 2014, 11:44 PM
        1. and to you, the devil means Christians who believe in the deity of Christ. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Oct 31, 2014, 11:45 PM
    9. Examining Psalm 110:1 - A look at Its Implications on God being a Multi-Personal Being - |Judie_84 on Nov 2, 2014, 4:54 AM
      1. Observer3, are all of the verses quoted above vague and ambiguous to you? hehehe - |Judie_84 on Nov 2, 2014, 4:56 AM
    10. DAY 12 and still unanswered! - |Judie_84 on Nov 2, 2014, 10:17 PM
    11. DAY 13 already and still no reply from emman, INCquisitor and Tomas! - |Judie_84 on Nov 3, 2014, 1:11 PM
      1. I am not anti-Christ-is-God, he might be God. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 7:10 AM
        1. The truth on the deity of the Lord is not yet clear on the mind of the Doubting Tomas. LOL - |Judie_84 on Nov 11, 2014, 10:27 PM
          1. He might be God. What a doctrine. hehe - |Judie_84 on Nov 11, 2014, 10:27 PM
            1. Tomas believes the Lord Jesus Christ was a created god! - |Judie_84 on Nov 11, 2014, 10:30 PM
              1. contrary to "before me, there was no god form nor shall there come after me." - |Judie_84 on Nov 11, 2014, 10:33 PM
                1. That verse was not referring to gods like in John 10:35. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 11:19 AM
                  1. you're starting to sound Trinitarian? explain your answer further if you please... - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 7:30 PM
                    1. No, I said if Jesus is God, not since Jesus is God. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:05 PM
        2. i can't blame you for your twisted doctrine, you are not a Christian. you are a heretic! - |Judie_84 on Nov 11, 2014, 10:35 PM
        3. tomas is like the fool in shakespeare's Hamlet. - Kumag Ka on Nov 12, 2014, 7:36 AM
        4. you who said Christians are gods, say that Jesus might be God? why "might be" only? - |Judie_84 on Nov 13, 2014, 4:33 AM
          1. didn't you said before that Christ was made god? that he's a created god? - |Judie_84 on Nov 13, 2014, 4:35 AM
            1. He is a god, but in addition he might be God almighty, - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 11:22 AM
              1. You keep reminding us that Jesus is not above the Father. Had Jesus claimed he is? - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 7:33 PM
                1. Of course not, so he would not be almighty over the Father. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:07 PM
    12. DAY 26 and still no sound refutation from "the enemies of the Lord"! LOL - |Judie_84 on Nov 16, 2014, 12:23 AM
      1. emman, INCquisitor, kumago, observer3, Tomas. Those of you who refuse to recognize the Son - |Judie_84 on Nov 16, 2014, 12:25 AM
        1. Where are you? - |Judie_84 on Nov 17, 2014, 11:30 PM
          1. kumago23, with your 23 lies of your own, WHERE YOU ARE? hahaha - |Judie_84 on Nov 17, 2014, 11:31 PM
            1. why can't you give a sensible refutation? If CHRIST is David's Son, why is he his LORD? - |Judie_84 on Nov 17, 2014, 11:32 PM
        2. emman, INCquisitor, why do you keep still? why not refute the riddle? - |Judie_84 on Nov 17, 2014, 11:33 PM
          1. If Jesus Christ is a mere man, why is he powerful enough to "sustain all things by his - |Judie_84 on Nov 17, 2014, 11:35 PM
      2. Enemies of the Lord, where you are? hahaha. emman, INCquisitor! - |Judie_84 on Nov 17, 2014, 11:36 PM
    13. One month already but still no sensible explanation from the "Anti-Christ is God" yet. LOL - |Judie_84 on Nov 25, 2014, 2:58 PM
      1. Tomas commented only once with his famous heresy, "He might be God!" - |Judie_84 on Nov 25, 2014, 7:46 PM
        1. Trinitarians: Jesus is very God, very man. Tomas: He might be God. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Nov 25, 2014, 7:47 PM
          1. Trinitarians could happen to be right by luck, but trinity - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 11:24 AM
            1. I say it's three, you more than three? how many? who were your candidates for the deity - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 7:28 PM
              1. Maybe one, or 2, or 3, or more than 3. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:14 PM
    14. emman, INCquisitor, kumago/observer3, Tomas. Where are you? - |Judie_84 on Nov 26, 2014, 10:19 PM
      1. where's your answer to the Riddle? - |Judie_84 on Nov 26, 2014, 10:19 PM
    15. "If Jesus is David's Lord, how is he his son?" - still no answer? - |Judie_84 on Nov 27, 2014, 11:14 AM
      1. Hahaha - |Judie_84 on Nov 27, 2014, 11:44 AM
    16. "... there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ." - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 8:35 AM
      1. Where are the likes of Tomas? the others who preach another Christ, who for them is a mere - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 8:38 AM
        1. PERVERTERS OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST! Where are you? - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 8:38 AM
        2. I preach the same Christ as you, who might well be God, - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 3:18 PM
     
  5. I suspect anna and emman are the same person (unitarian?) View Thread - Mzlplck on Dec 20, 2014, 2:02 PM
    1. Thinking that he wont get flak by logging as "beautiful girl" (anna bella). - Mzlplck on Dec 20, 2014, 2:12 PM
      1. emma and anna one and the same blogger? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:26 PM
    2. I thought you were allergic to BS? Yet you carry it around. - Anna on Dec 20, 2014, 2:26 PM
      1. ACHOO!!! Sorry.. - Mzlplck on Dec 20, 2014, 3:00 PM
     
  6. I am no longer the kind of believer I used to be - but let me share a bit of my mind View Thread - ASP on Dec 15, 2014, 6:24 PM
    1. Cite a Biblical example that supports your views - Eric on Dec 15, 2014, 8:41 PM
      1. Think that ASP means that all verses must be interpreted in context, which is true. - jodlas on Dec 15, 2014, 8:50 PM
        1. Not all verses need to be interpreted in context. - INCqusitor on Dec 15, 2014, 11:43 PM
          1. INCquisitor, you just confirmed your error in interpreting verses. - Michael on Dec 15, 2014, 11:56 PM
    2. ASP cite an example and then we can comment on it - Eric on Dec 18, 2014, 6:52 PM
      1. if I will give examples, all I know are INC examples, which I no longer defend - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 7:03 PM
      2. I actually hoped Emman will respond to the top question - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 7:21 PM
      3. I am trying to think of an example that I may have learned when I was Catholic - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 7:24 PM
        1. Then YOU REALLY need to start DILIGENTLY reading the BIBLE - Eric on Dec 18, 2014, 9:09 PM
          1. ok thanks also - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 9:26 PM
          2. I do read if I have technical questions - I don't read to maintain a belief - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 9:36 PM
        2. You know my wife WAS very much like you. in INC and LOST - Eric on Dec 18, 2014, 9:13 PM
          1. thanks for sharing - but can we stick to the top question? - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 9:23 PM
            1. How long u been in a "CHURCH" and you dont know comparing scripture with scripture? - Eric on Dec 20, 2014, 11:24 AM
              1. You should not condemn the Catholic church or INC. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 11:52 AM
                1. Then you're as lost as ASP or Emmanuel.. sad to say - Eric on Dec 20, 2014, 1:01 PM
                  1. ASP seems lost, but you are being too divisive, - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 2:58 PM
    3. John 3:16 is a Good example - Eric on Dec 18, 2014, 6:58 PM
      1. ok, so in this case, "related" could mean "outside of the actual chapter" - yes/ - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 7:14 PM
        1. A CHRISTIAN believes in ONLY the BIBLE and ALL of the BIble - Eric on Dec 18, 2014, 9:08 PM
          1. I did not think what you thought I did - I was actually asking neutrally - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 9:27 PM
          2. look bro - you agree or disagree, that's ok - if my top question is wrong, then it's wrong - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 9:31 PM
    4. Return to INC. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 1:24 AM
      1. back to slavery, again? "... and the Word was God." INC: no, that's not true. the Word was - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 2:07 AM
     
  7. Where are the preachers of another Christ? Perverters of the gospel of Christ like Tomas? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Dec 8, 2014, 8:41 AM
    1. hello. where are you? - |Judie_84 on Dec 9, 2014, 10:51 PM
    2. I am not perverting the gospel. I teach the same Christ as you do. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:36 PM
      1. hahaha. your Christ is a maybe God only. our Christ is God. two different Christs. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 12:48 PM
        1. That's just your theory that he is God. You believe it, but anyway, - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:59 PM
          1. Tomas, that is not a theory. It's right in the Bible and a Christ who is God and your - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 1:05 PM
            1. You think it is in the Bible. But the Bible does not say if he is God. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 2:48 PM
     
  8. Our Leader will preach to us INC all over the world! View Thread - Anna on Nov 27, 2014, 8:34 PM
    1. well Happy Thanksgiving to you also. We thank God today for helping Christian America. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Nov 27, 2014, 9:01 PM
    2. Unfortunately, God restraint INC to a few million members. But God blessed His church with - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 27, 2014, 9:18 PM
    3. Anna, why don't you take a few hours or days and read the following: - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 27, 2014, 9:21 PM
      1. One of the best exposes we have on the INC's. Thanks for posting Guenter. - |Judie_84 on Nov 27, 2014, 11:42 PM
    4. So when is your last day? - mzlplck on Nov 28, 2014, 1:45 AM
      1. no real day as long as the members come to the chapel to pray and pay. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Nov 28, 2014, 6:35 AM
        1. "poor souls" means ignorant Catholics who were duped into believing that felix is - |Judie_84 on Nov 28, 2014, 6:38 AM
          1. Well, somehow it reflects the short comings of RCC and the kind of faithfuls have they. - Michael on Nov 28, 2014, 8:15 AM
            1. The RCC was the original false church. INC just copied that role by falsely claiming that - |Judie_84 on Nov 28, 2014, 8:28 AM
              1. I really don't subscribe to a false or true church scenario Judie. - Michael on Nov 28, 2014, 8:58 AM
                1. nicely said Michael. - Karlos on Nov 28, 2014, 2:00 PM
                2. What you are saying is FALSE. - INCquisitor on Nov 28, 2014, 2:27 PM
                  1. No it's not INCquisitor. It's the light you can't see. - Michael on Nov 29, 2014, 9:35 AM
                    1. No, Michael, you have been misinformed about the aorist. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 10:23 AM
                      1. Is that so Tomas? - Michael on Dec 9, 2014, 4:07 AM
                        1. Yes, I can give you some quotes. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 2:36 PM
                    2. The doctrine that there is no false and true church is false. - INCquisitor on Dec 6, 2014, 6:45 PM
                      1. And so INCquisitor says and declares it is false. But it remains to be TRUE. - Michael on Dec 7, 2014, 3:12 AM
    5. I think anna is a bot! she never answered back. - Karlos on Nov 28, 2014, 6:04 AM
      1. Perhaps she consults first what to answer, when to answer, what to say, and what to ask. - Michael on Nov 28, 2014, 8:13 AM
        1. I hope someone can help her. - Karlos on Nov 28, 2014, 2:03 PM
      2. Few people here are like me, trying to read and answer - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 2:39 PM
    6. So sad Anna. Your leader still preach to you and INC up to now? - Michael on Nov 28, 2014, 8:33 AM
     
  9. God loves all as they say - but is He fair to all? View Thread - ASP on Oct 17, 2014, 3:16 PM
    1. is God unfair? in what way? - |Judie_84 on Oct 17, 2014, 3:25 PM
    2. Of course. You think not? By the way, how do you know what's fair? - Michael on Oct 17, 2014, 4:13 PM
      1. example - 2 babies born; one healthy, one with disability - fair? unfair? - ASP on Oct 17, 2014, 4:21 PM
        1. Don't ask me. I asked you. How do you know what is fair? - Michael on Oct 17, 2014, 4:34 PM
          1. I think you think I have no capacity to know what is fair or unfair - ASP on Oct 17, 2014, 5:26 PM
            1. Not at all. I'm just asking 'How do you know what's fair? - Michael on Oct 17, 2014, 6:20 PM
              1. ok? how about every human are born healthy, not poor, not rich, just adequate - ASP on Oct 17, 2014, 6:53 PM
                1. It seems you can't really give a sufficient answer. - Michael on Oct 17, 2014, 7:43 PM
                  1. I don't think I can give a different answer than what I already said - ASP on Oct 17, 2014, 8:11 PM
                    1. That's exactly my point ASP. - Michael on Oct 18, 2014, 8:30 AM
                      1. do you know what is truly fair any more than I do? - ASP on Oct 18, 2014, 1:00 PM
                        1. I don't think we can come to terms with what is fair. - Michael on Oct 19, 2014, 12:06 PM
                      2. regarding purpose - ASP on Oct 18, 2014, 1:34 PM
                        1. Do you really have a problem with that? - Michael on Oct 19, 2014, 3:33 PM
                          1. should quest for a certain logic be considered as problem? - ASP on Oct 20, 2014, 4:36 PM
                            1. Wrong quest therefore, for logic will not answer your problem. - Michael on Oct 20, 2014, 6:09 PM
                              1. Michael - I gladly accept your assessment of my thinking - ASP on Oct 20, 2014, 6:31 PM
                                1. Re: Michael - I gladly accept your assessment of my thinking - Michael on Oct 20, 2014, 9:45 PM
                                2. where do you think my sense of fairness comes from? - ASP on Oct 21, 2014, 12:09 AM
                                3. God. - Michael on Oct 21, 2014, 7:34 AM
                                4. perhaps you do these - ASP on Oct 21, 2014, 7:48 PM
                                5. So what has that got to do with fairness? You blame God because of that? - Michael on Oct 23, 2014, 12:38 PM
                                6. when a person asks why, it's automatically called blaming? - ASP on Oct 23, 2014, 4:59 PM
                                7. Look at what your OP implies ASP. - Michael on Oct 23, 2014, 5:20 PM
                                8. OP this, OP that - anyway last question (or re-question) - ASP on Oct 23, 2014, 5:52 PM
                                9. Well, you really seem to not recognize the effect of sin. I now don't know if you - Michael on Oct 23, 2014, 9:21 PM
                                10. whose sin is it that some of us has to feel the effects? - ASP on Oct 23, 2014, 10:55 PM
                                11. the blind man was created blind because??? - ASP on Oct 24, 2014, 12:06 AM
                                12. Did you read the passage and understood it ASP? - Michael on Oct 24, 2014, 7:05 AM
                                13. I am almost impressed - but... - ASP on Oct 24, 2014, 3:47 PM
                                14. What does Jesus' healing the blind got to do with your question? - Michael on Oct 24, 2014, 5:04 PM
                                15. are you sure it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it? - ASP on Oct 24, 2014, 5:29 PM
                                16. Yes I'm absolutely sure. - Michael on Oct 24, 2014, 6:00 PM
                                17. what else do we know that God knows differently from how we know it? - ASP on Oct 24, 2014, 8:21 PM
                                18. Everything. - Michael on Oct 24, 2014, 8:48 PM
                                19. I technically agree on this "EVERYTHING" - but I think it has to be it's own topic - ASP on Oct 24, 2014, 9:34 PM
    3. ASP, God does not love all, but he is fair to all. - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 11:56 AM
      1. Tomas, God loves all. He is creator of them all. - Michael on Oct 25, 2014, 10:13 PM
        1. Is the Bible lying then when it quotes God saying twice, - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 11:11 PM
          1. Does God created some to hate and some to love? - Michael on Oct 25, 2014, 11:32 PM
            1. God wants all to become saved. But those who reject his offer - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 11:51 PM
              1. God did not create some to hate and some to love. - Michael on Oct 26, 2014, 11:39 AM
                1. God created all to hate them in the beginning. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 9:44 AM
                  1. UNBELIEVABLE! - Michael on Nov 16, 2014, 9:23 PM
                    1. It seems unbelievable to you, but the Bible is clear, God hates the unsaved. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 8:38 PM
                      1. God may hate the unsaved, but God did not create them to hate them. - Michael on Dec 9, 2014, 9:22 AM
                        1. It looks like in your view, God has a love-hate relationship with the unsaved. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:56 PM
     
  10. To the Christian: Who saved you? Answer: God. Agree or disagree? View Thread - Michael on Nov 19, 2014, 8:37 AM
    1. Is God then your Savior or not? Answer: Yes. Agree or disagree? - Michael on Nov 19, 2014, 8:38 AM
    2. Why did God save you? Is it because of the good works you did? Answer: No. - Michael on Nov 19, 2014, 8:42 AM
    3. Or do you deserve to be saved, so that God saved you? - Michael on Nov 19, 2014, 8:42 AM
    4. Christian: Who is your Savior? Confess Him under this thread to His glory. - Michael on Nov 20, 2014, 2:14 AM
    5. Who is your Savior? What is His name? - Michael on Nov 20, 2014, 4:24 PM
      1. A prayer: "Lord save us from the church of felix and his wicked Ministers." hahaha - |Judie_84 on Nov 24, 2014, 2:18 PM
    6. Anyone? - Michael on Nov 20, 2014, 11:11 PM
    7. Has everybody here forgotten who his savior is? Honor him at least by confessing him here. - Michael on Nov 21, 2014, 10:31 PM
    8. Ashamed of your savior? Ashamed of God? - Michael on Nov 24, 2014, 12:36 AM
    9. It seems apparent now that there are no Christians in this forum. - Michael on Nov 24, 2014, 7:30 AM
      1. the obvious answer is God. - |Judie_84 on Nov 24, 2014, 7:36 AM
        1. Obvious Judie? Obviously it is not for others. - Michael on Nov 24, 2014, 1:07 PM
        2. Obvious Judie? Obviously it is not for others. - Michael on Nov 24, 2014, 1:07 PM
    10. God and Christ saved us. And Christ might be God himself anyway. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 11:52 AM
      1. So Tomas, in whose name are you saved? - Michael on Dec 9, 2014, 2:35 PM
        1. In the name of Jesus, which God gave to his Son. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:33 PM
     
  11. the Father set the Judgement Day, but why is the alleged other God jesus does not know? View Thread - Observer3 on Dec 17, 2014, 10:52 PM
    1. how about you Oberver3? what do you know? hehe - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:34 PM
      1. do you know who is going to judge you? - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:35 PM
    2. will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:37 PM
      1. I am the way and the truth and the life - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:38 PM
    3. and I will raise them up at the last day. - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:39 PM
      1. I and the Father are one. - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:40 PM
    4. he not only broke the Sabbath, but called God "Father" making himself equal with God. - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:41 PM
      1. he claimed equality with God - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:41 PM
      2. What? He broke the Sabbath? Are you accusing Jesus of sin? - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 10:11 AM
    5. he chose not to know. he chose not to know. he chose not to know. - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:42 PM
      1. he could have known that had he thought it necessary but just left that prerogative to the - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:43 PM
    6. “Should I hide my plan from Abraham?” God asked. 18 “For Abraham shall become a mighty - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:45 PM
      1. the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:47 PM
    7. that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:49 PM
      1. Observer3, is doubting the capabilities of the Son, a way of honoring him? - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:50 PM
        1. is mocking the Son of God a good way to honor him whom the Father sent? - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:51 PM
          1. shall a mere man like you keep on ridiculing the Son of God, who came down from heaven? - |Judie_84 on Dec 17, 2014, 11:51 PM
    8. Because this way is pleasing to the eyes of the Father - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 11:17 AM
      1. Yes, it was pleasing to the Father that the Son be not omniscient. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 11:20 AM
        1. Really Thomas? If Jesus would challenge his Father for a game of chess, who would win? - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 11:59 AM
          1. You don't think the Father would win? - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:30 PM
     
  12. The Son is not equal to the Father. View Thread - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 4:33 AM
    1. Stop it, dude. why don't you watch an NBA game or movie or something - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Dec 20, 2014, 4:40 AM
    2. You're mocking God with your lie. May God have mercy with you. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Dec 20, 2014, 4:42 AM
      1. The Father is greater than the Son. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 5:11 AM
        1. Thats why the Catholic Church has Fathers and the inc has brothers. - Horizon on Dec 20, 2014, 8:47 AM
          1. Some of the Catholic fathers have not fathered a single child. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 9:07 AM
        2. Good the Father is not lower than the Son - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 12:26 PM
          1. No point going to the Father? I don't understand. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:28 PM
    3. The Daughter is not equal to the Mother (nt) - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 12:16 PM
     
  13. Anna or Emman - another INC violation, this time it's Romans 12:2 View Thread - ASP on Dec 17, 2014, 6:18 PM
    1. up - ASP on Dec 18, 2014, 4:52 PM
    2. up - ASP on Dec 19, 2014, 4:18 PM
    3. Anna - what is your answer to this? - ASP on Dec 19, 2014, 10:09 PM
    4. Where is the violation? If everyone on the world wears clothes should we not get dressed? - Anna on Dec 19, 2014, 10:24 PM
      1. why are purposely being shallow? you ARENA New Year's Concert is the pattern in question - ASP on Dec 19, 2014, 10:30 PM
        1. the concert is not INC related. When have you heard the Church Administration say it is? - Anna on Dec 19, 2014, 10:45 PM
          1. how is it not related? let me remind you even though you already know - ASP on Dec 19, 2014, 10:55 PM
            1. They will not perform darkness. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 12:47 AM
              1. will Chris brown be singing "I am a member of the Church of Christ?" - Horizon on Dec 20, 2014, 4:46 AM
                1. Here's the lyrics. I guess God approves of this Chris brown and his songs - Horizon on Dec 20, 2014, 5:07 AM
                  1. If you hear that lyrics, only then you criticize. If not, be silent. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 5:14 AM
                    1. So will he be singing inc hymns, or about raping women? - Horizon on Dec 20, 2014, 5:17 AM
                      1. You watch so you will know. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 5:26 AM
                        1. New years eve is on Wednesday. Aren't we supposed to be in church? - Horizon on Dec 20, 2014, 6:26 AM
    5. INC is violating Romans 12:2 and Ephesians 5:11 - ASP on Dec 19, 2014, 10:58 PM
      1. EVM and Admin if you are reading this, we look forward hearing your defense in WS lesson - ASP on Dec 19, 2014, 11:00 PM
      2. There is no sin in performing arts. ASP, you lack understanding. - emmanuel on Dec 20, 2014, 12:53 AM
        1. ARTS or FARTS? How is saying NIGGA a form of ARTS? - Eric on Dec 20, 2014, 11:15 AM
          1. Was Mark Twain not an artistic writer? - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 11:23 AM
        2. LOL Iglesia ni Cristo and art; Great combination like graven images and statues - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 11:35 AM
          1. If we don't use graven images and statues for worship, - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 11:41 AM
            1. Whatever - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 11:51 AM
              1. Do you think the INC use this image as an aid for prayer or worship? - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 11:55 AM
                1. Yeah, it looks great on any kind of stationery - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 12:11 PM
                  1. It does look quite nice. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:26 PM
        3. Is Lea Salonga coming? - Coffeemaker on Dec 20, 2014, 11:46 AM
     
  14. Repost:Why was the eating of blood or of the blood of any flesh forbidden in OT times? View Thread - Michael on Oct 17, 2014, 3:11 PM
    1. It's what God has spoken through His son (Heb. 1:2). - INCquisitor on Oct 17, 2014, 11:19 PM
      1. Did you read the OP? What you say does not address it. - Michael on Oct 18, 2014, 7:43 AM
        1. You didn't see what I wrote, didn't you? - INCquisitor on Oct 18, 2014, 2:24 PM
          1. I did. You didn't understand my questions? - Michael on Oct 19, 2014, 10:07 AM
      2. Blood is not considered food to be eaten. - emmanuel on Nov 1, 2014, 9:41 AM
        1. if blood is not a food, why it is forbidden to eat? how about stone? - Karlos on Nov 1, 2014, 12:22 PM
          1. It's not necessary to forbid something if that something was not being practiced. - emmanuel on Nov 1, 2014, 9:10 PM
            1. little here, little there is ok, lol! - Karlos on Nov 2, 2014, 6:16 AM
              1. Eating a clay though its not food is not sin. But eating blood... - emmanuel on Nov 3, 2014, 1:49 AM
                1. Re: Eating a clay though its not food is not sin. But eating blood... - Karlos on Nov 3, 2014, 4:33 AM
                  1. If it is possible to remove all the fats and blood, i would prefer eating that. - emmanuel on Nov 6, 2014, 12:03 AM
                    1. no - Karlos on Nov 6, 2014, 9:14 AM
                      1. Will I become healthy because of the blood? Broaden your mind. - emmanuel on Nov 7, 2014, 9:51 AM
                        1. Re: Will I become healthy because of the blood? Broaden your mind. - Karlos on Nov 7, 2014, 12:05 PM
                          1. The intention of eating blood was the thing considered sin. - emmanuel on Nov 7, 2014, 11:23 PM
                            1. Re: The intention of eating blood was the thing considered sin. - Karlos on Nov 8, 2014, 10:12 AM
                            2. What a stupid premise! - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 2:05 PM
                              1. To desire of eating blood is sin. Truth is not stupidity. - emmanuel on Nov 14, 2014, 2:44 PM
                                1. The word of God is truth. Don't you know that? - INCquisitor on Nov 14, 2014, 10:29 PM
                                2. The word abstain is in the Bible. - emmanuel on Nov 19, 2014, 5:37 AM
                              2. You misunderstood. - emmanuel on Nov 19, 2014, 5:41 AM
                      2. Will I become healthy because of the blood? Broaden your mind. - emmanuel on Nov 7, 2014, 9:51 AM
                        1. Does not eat blood but believes felix is the Fifth Angel of Revelation 7. What the ----! - |Judie_84 on Nov 7, 2014, 2:35 PM
                          1. hahaha what a way to muddle the issue, why, didn't Jesus eat blood? - Kumag Ka on Nov 8, 2014, 1:07 PM
                            1. Yeah, tell me, did Jesus eat or didn't eat blood wise guy? - Nom on Nov 8, 2014, 1:32 PM
                              1. Thats a stupid question. - INCquisitor on Nov 8, 2014, 2:03 PM
                                1. Why stupid? Of course he did not eat blood. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 2:29 PM
                                2. It is stupid bcause nobody knows what Jesus ate or did not eat. - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 1:56 PM
                                3. the apostles preached what they have heard from Jesus, would you think Jesus - Observer3 on Nov 9, 2014, 3:29 PM
                                4. Tell me, what did the apostles hear Jesus preach? - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 1:58 PM
                                5. INCquisitor, Jesus did not sin. So of course he did not eat blood. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:20 PM
                                6. Where did you get that idea Tomas? - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 2:01 PM
                                7. INCquisitor, because Jesus never sinned. So he did not eat blood. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:22 PM
                                8. What you say is simply your opinion - NOT the truth. - INCquisitor on Dec 6, 2014, 3:45 PM
                                9. You are so wrong. Jesus spoke the words in Rev. 2:20, - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 6:08 PM
                                10. you are the stupid and evader! - Nom on Nov 9, 2014, 3:24 AM
                                11. kumag and incq are intentionally ignoring my question! lol! - Nom on Nov 10, 2014, 6:39 AM
                                12. up... - Nom on Nov 11, 2014, 4:51 AM
                                13. You don't know what "mortal" means, don't you? - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 2:03 PM
                                14. Re: You don't know what "mortal" means, don't you? - Nom on Nov 12, 2014, 10:32 AM
                                15. Jesus is a MAN in "yesterday, today and forever." - INCquisitor on Nov 14, 2014, 10:34 PM
                                16. whaaaaaaaat? - Nom on Nov 15, 2014, 4:43 AM
                                17. Jesus said he is a MAN (John 8:40). - INCquisitor on Nov 18, 2014, 10:36 PM
                                18. yeah, yeah, yeah... jumping from one verse to another! - Nom on Nov 19, 2014, 5:19 AM
                                19. who wants to waste his time with this salingpusa? hahaha - Observer3 on Nov 14, 2014, 10:55 PM
                                20. hehehe, this salingpusa beats you into pieces! lol! that's all you can say idiot?lol! - Nom on Nov 15, 2014, 4:44 AM
                                21. hahaha... is there any verse to show Jesus and the apostles and their followers ate blood? - Observer3 on Nov 9, 2014, 3:14 PM
                                22. There is neither a law that says Jesus and the apostles did not eat blood. - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 5:35 PM
                                23. Open your eyes and mind, INcq. Dare you say the apostles contradicted Jesus words when th - Observer3 on Nov 9, 2014, 9:24 PM
                                24. I see that you do not undestand the true reason why the letter was written. - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 9:27 PM
                                25. twist it anyway you like the verses but still it's God word not to eat blood because - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 11:12 AM
                                26. And God repealed it. He declared all food to be clean. If you can, read Mark 17:9 - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 10, 2014, 10:43 PM
                                27. all food? so now, is blood food? Did God create blood as food or as a symbol of life - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:10 PM
                                28. I give you that, it sure is not Mark 17:9 (sorry!). The symbol of life for Christians is - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 12, 2014, 4:55 PM
                                29. Guenter, is blood food? Did God create blood for food? - Observer3 on Nov 12, 2014, 9:45 PM
                                30. blood is food or else it would not be banned to eat. - Nom on Nov 13, 2014, 6:50 AM
                                31. Nom already gave you the correct answer. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 13, 2014, 3:53 PM
                                32. Incquisitor is wrong. - emmanuel on Nov 14, 2014, 2:52 PM
                                33. Blood was not created to be food to be eaten? But it's still FOOD!! So, the verse - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 14, 2014, 4:47 PM
                                34. another impaired bible expert to the rescue... lol ... read the context - Observer3 on Nov 14, 2014, 9:49 PM
                                35. You're omitting an important aspect in Leviticus, I wonder why. "...throughout your - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 16, 2014, 10:55 PM
                                36. This version of Mark 7:15-16 is a perversion of the truth. - INCquisitor on Nov 14, 2014, 10:40 PM
                                37. that parable was made clearer by Acts 15:20_21, 28-29. are you that dense, Incq? - Observer3 on Nov 14, 2014, 10:57 PM
                                38. we are not looking for a law, Incq, just the verse that says anyof Jesus followers ate blo - Observer3 on Nov 15, 2014, 1:50 PM
                        2. You don't know why God sent Jesus into the world, don't you? - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 1:58 PM
                          1. oh yeah? hahaha did He send jesus to repeal God's words? - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 12:16 PM
                            1. What you say is nonsense! - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 1:43 AM
                              1. did Jesus repeal God's word on blood-eating thru the parable of mark 7:15? - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:15 PM
                                1. Can't you understand John 12:49-50? - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 11:01 PM
                                2. thus you agreed then that he was not sent to repeal God's words - Kumag Ka on Nov 12, 2014, 7:21 AM
                                3. So tell us. What is your interpretation of Mark 7:15? - INCquisitor on Nov 13, 2014, 12:54 AM
                                4. of course your speculation is different from mine, do you want me to continue? - Observer3 on Nov 14, 2014, 9:51 PM
                                5. You are afraid to tell me your interpretation, aren't you? - INCquisitor on Nov 14, 2014, 10:35 PM
                                6. of course, that is not about blood, or food. the verse didn't even say it, - Observer3 on Nov 14, 2014, 11:01 PM
                                7. Of course, Jesus was talking about food or SOMETHING that one considers food. - INCquisitor on Nov 15, 2014, 1:08 PM
                                8. to understand mark7:15, read the context- were they talking about unwashed hands before e - Observer3 on Nov 15, 2014, 9:31 PM
                                9. INCquisitor, how come you're so wise when it comes to eating blood but just the opposite - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 16, 2014, 10:05 PM
                                10. Again, Incq, did Jesus repeal God's word not to eat blood? - Observer3 on Nov 15, 2014, 1:44 PM
                                11. If you don't believe what Jesus said in Mark 7:15, I'm sorry for you. - INCquisitor on Nov 18, 2014, 10:40 PM
        2. This is a TWISTED version of Mark 7:15. - INCquisition on Nov 6, 2014, 12:05 PM
          1. Swine was once considered unclean. Jesus was referring to an unclean foods, not blood. - emmanuel on Nov 8, 2014, 4:42 AM
            1. Where did yu get the idea that Jesus was referring to unclean foods, not blood? - INCquisitor on Nov 8, 2014, 1:56 PM
              1. incq, haven't you noticed the fabrication in mark 7:19 'thus purifying all foods?' - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 11:49 AM
                1. The phrase "purifying all foods" does not change the meaning of Mark 7:15. - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 2:09 PM
                  1. and so for what purpose that was inserted but to justify their blood eating? - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:27 PM
    2. who the devil said eating blood is not any more forbidden? and why? - Observer3 on Oct 18, 2014, 1:39 PM
      1. You accuse Jesus of being the devil? - INCquisitor on Oct 18, 2014, 2:26 PM
        1. you are with the devil who tried hard to twist his words. - Observer3 on Oct 18, 2014, 3:01 PM
          1. You are an antiChrist who strives hard to make Jesus a liar. - INCquisitor on Oct 18, 2014, 11:25 PM
            1. Repent, Incq. Stop sinning- stop eating blood sausages! - Observer3 on Oct 20, 2014, 3:12 PM
          2. is abstain have the same meaning as forbidden or prohibited? - Karlos on Oct 23, 2014, 3:00 PM
            1. its just the word chosen by bible writer but the effect is just the same- God will cut - Observer3 on Oct 24, 2014, 6:55 PM
              1. Re: its just the word chosen by bible writer but the effect is just the same- God will cut - Karlos on Oct 25, 2014, 1:39 PM
                1. If we are commanded to abstain from it, just like we - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 1:53 PM
                  1. Re: If we are commanded to abstain from it, just like we - Karlos on Oct 25, 2014, 2:08 PM
                  2. Re: If we are commanded to abstain from it, just like we - Karlos on Oct 25, 2014, 2:21 PM
                    1. Most gentiles were against murder, stealing, adultery, - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 2:41 PM
                      1. Re: Most gentiles were against murder, stealing, adultery, - Karlos on Oct 25, 2014, 2:50 PM
                        1. OK, then. But if you are saved, you will repent of that sin, after - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 4:36 PM
                2. Prohibits and abstain has the same effect of not allowing to do. - emmanuel on Nov 1, 2014, 10:37 PM
                  1. Re: Prohibits and abstain has the same effect of not allowing to do. - Karlos on Nov 2, 2014, 6:25 AM
                    1. The very intention of eating blood is what considered sin. - emmanuel on Nov 3, 2014, 1:51 AM
                      1. Re: The very intention of eating blood is what considered sin. - Karlos on Nov 3, 2014, 4:40 AM
                        1. Nobody can eliminate the tiny remaining amount of blood in meat, - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 4:33 AM
                          1. Re: Nobody can eliminate the tiny remaining amount of blood in meat, - Karlos on Nov 8, 2014, 10:18 AM
                            1. It is the New Covenant commandment to abstain from blood, - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 11:57 AM
                              1. Re: It is the New Covenant commandment to abstain from blood, - Karlos on Nov 8, 2014, 1:40 PM
                                1. Do you eat poison? Of course you can't eat all. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 2:41 PM
                                2. Re: Do you eat poison? Of course you can't eat all. - Karlos on Nov 9, 2014, 3:33 AM
                                3. Karlos, the Israelites too were prohibited from eating blood. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:28 PM
                                4. What a childish argument, Tomas. Is poison food? Does poison nourish the body? Or does it - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 11, 2014, 8:33 PM
                                5. what a stupid arument! Is blood food? Did God create it as food for nourishment? - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:39 PM
                                6. Of course, blood is food. It gives your body nourishment. According to Webster's food is - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 12, 2014, 4:59 PM
                                7. HAhahaha ...Any idiot will eat "anything", one even wonders if steel bars can be eaten. - Observer3 on Nov 12, 2014, 9:52 PM
                                8. Why was there a prohibition to eat blood if it isn't food? Was there a prohibition to eat - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 13, 2014, 3:51 PM
                                9. Even if it is food, because God prohibited us from eating it, we must obey. - emmanuel on Nov 14, 2014, 2:54 PM
                                10. You're partially correct. God requested from the people of Israel to abstain from eating - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 14, 2014, 4:40 PM
                                11. Cite just one of the several verses, Guenter. Don't just blabber and escape. - Observer3 on Nov 15, 2014, 9:33 PM
                                12. And I thought you'd read the Bible prior to making up your mind. Since you don't know - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 16, 2014, 10:23 PM
                                13. Lev. 17:10 was what God spoke to our fathers by the prophets (Heb. 1:1). - INCquisitor on Nov 18, 2014, 10:46 PM
                                14. You say Mark 7:15 was spoken by Christ, but the same Christ spoke later Rev. 2:20, - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:54 PM
                                15. Guenter, poison can have nutrients too, besides harming you. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:35 PM
                        2. We never steal. We are talking about food. You put the subject out of context. - emmanuel on Nov 8, 2014, 4:50 AM
                          1. Re: We never steal. We are talking about food. You put the subject out of context. - Karlos on Nov 8, 2014, 10:35 AM
                            1. Out of context. - emmanuel on Nov 19, 2014, 3:47 AM
                      2. That statement of yours is absolutely unscriptural. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 4, 2014, 4:35 AM
                      3. "You are eating blood because it is blood" is a stupid example of intention. - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 2:07 PM
                        1. blood is not food like a steel bar, do you eat steel bars, dude? - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:36 PM
                          1. You are being foolih and childish now. Who eats steel bars? Duh! - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 11:05 PM
                            1. Not eaten by humans because it is not food. but rust eats away metals, steels. lol - Kumag Ka on Nov 12, 2014, 7:29 AM
                              1. idiot kumag, only the Jews don't eat or drink blood! - Nom on Nov 12, 2014, 1:32 PM
                                1. There are already quite a number of Christian churches that prohibit eating blood. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:39 PM
                              2. That stupid salingpusa does not even know about the Gentile converts who were non-jews. - Observer3 on Nov 12, 2014, 9:58 PM
                                1. why? because I just beat you to pieces? - Nom on Nov 13, 2014, 4:19 AM
                                2. Bwahahahahaha! - Nom on Nov 13, 2014, 5:15 AM
    3. Everybody seems know only how to ask and argue, but never realize why scriptures - Michael on Oct 23, 2014, 1:06 PM
      1. It was forbidden in the Law of Moses, because it had been already forbidden - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 12:17 PM
        1. Re: It was forbidden in the Law of Moses, because it had been already forbidden - Karlos on Oct 25, 2014, 1:52 PM
          1. See what I wrote to you above. - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 1:54 PM
        2. Tomas, what you say here just don't address the OP. - Michael on Oct 25, 2014, 8:01 PM
          1. Because to God, and therefore to us, blood symbolizes life. - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 10:00 PM
            1. Sure, blood symbolizes life. - Michael on Oct 30, 2014, 4:26 PM
              1. Yes, it does. So it's forbidden. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 4:47 AM
                1. Re: Yes, it does. So it's forbidden. - Michael on Nov 18, 2014, 10:28 PM
                  1. You did not give a verse that says it's no longer forbidden. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 12:49 PM
                    1. Tomas, the truth is not only found written explicitly in a verse. - Michael on Dec 9, 2014, 4:49 PM
                      1. But it is not only a commandment in the Law. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 12:24 PM
      2. You don't know what truth is. - INCquisitor on Oct 25, 2014, 2:18 PM
        1. It did not apply only to Israelites. See Gen. 9:4, that is a commandment - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 2:43 PM
        2. You don't understand what the issue is. Please address the OP. - Michael on Oct 25, 2014, 8:05 PM
          1. The reason for the OP is to refute what Jesus said in Mark 7:15. - INCquisitor on Oct 26, 2014, 12:39 AM
            1. The point of the OP is know God better through His laws, such as this. - Michael on Oct 26, 2014, 1:02 AM
              1. Re: The point of the OP is know God better through His laws, such as this. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Oct 26, 2014, 1:05 AM
              2. Obvious;y, you don't believe the reason why God sent Jesus into the world. - INCquisitor on Oct 26, 2014, 1:19 AM
                1. Obviously that's what you only think, for I believe and know why God sent His Son. - Michael on Oct 26, 2014, 12:00 PM
                  1. Jesus sai he who does not believe him is condemned already (John 3:18). - INCquisitor on Nov 5, 2014, 11:50 AM
                    1. The apostles continued the teachings of Jesus, that is, not to eat blood- acts 15:20-21 - Kumag Ka on Nov 5, 2014, 12:17 PM
                      1. Compare Mark 7:15 with Acts 15:20-21. Are they the same? - INCquisition on Nov 6, 2014, 12:24 PM
                        1. Of course, your mark 7;15 is vague about food nor eating blood- the verse does not say it. - Kumag Ka on Nov 6, 2014, 12:57 PM
                          1. What do you think "nothing" means Kumag? - INCquisitor on Nov 6, 2014, 10:45 PM
                            1. you have ur own interpretation, i have my own, K has his own - Observer3 on Nov 7, 2014, 12:28 PM
                              1. Tell me your interpretation of the word "nothing." - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 9:35 PM
                                1. do you want me to speculate about it and deny the clear words of the apostles? - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 11:17 AM
                                2. Just tell me what you mean by the word "nothing." - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 11:06 PM
                                3. my guess: anything means you can also eat metals, steel bars if you can. hahahaha - Observer3 on Nov 12, 2014, 10:01 PM
                                4. I'm now going down to your level, sorry: You also can eat your own stupidity. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 13, 2014, 4:40 PM
                                5. Eat all blood sausages you can, Guentr, on your way to hell. lol - Observer3 on Nov 15, 2014, 9:35 PM
                                6. If you think so. I"ll give you one more help. Good luck. my friend. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Nov 16, 2014, 9:56 PM
                                7. Just tell me your interpretation of the word "nothing." - INCquisitor on Nov 18, 2014, 10:50 PM
                    2. Indeed. And seemingly you don't know what it is Jesus said there in John 3:18 - Michael on Nov 10, 2014, 4:52 PM
                      1. A lie is a lie no matter how one defends it. - INCquisitor on Nov 11, 2014, 11:08 PM
        3. Incq, aren't you a modern day Gentile that the apostles was referring to in Acts? - Observer3 on Nov 3, 2014, 10:59 PM
          1. You haven't read the context with which the letter was written, haven't you? - INCquisitor on Nov 4, 2014, 2:22 AM
            1. so you accept that you are not a modern day Gentile? - Kumag Ka on Nov 6, 2014, 12:27 PM
              1. Incq, have you changed your color and admit you aren't a modern -day Gentile? - Observer3 on Nov 9, 2014, 3:35 PM
              2. Jesus made Mark 7:15 clearer in Mark 7:18-19. - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 9:37 PM
                1. oh yeah, read them excluding the fabricated words in enclosed parenthesis and what have - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 12:14 PM
        4. Incq refused to accept that the apostles continued the teachings of Jesus- Heb2:3-4- thus - Kumag Ka on Nov 5, 2014, 12:12 PM
          1. The apostles were never as stupid as most people in this forum. - INCquisitor on Nov 8, 2014, 2:03 PM
            1. so blood-eating is prohibited but without penalty, Incq? who repealed God's word - Observer3 on Nov 9, 2014, 3:41 PM
              1. We are talking about the apostles' letter, aren't we? - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 9:32 PM
                1. penalty? God's long standing decree is well known to his people. - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 12:28 PM
                2. penalty? God's long standing decree is well known to his people. - Kumag Ka on Nov 10, 2014, 12:29 PM
      3. Arguments based on opinion are uselesss. They are NOT truths. - INCquisitor on Nov 5, 2014, 11:37 AM
        1. ok - Karlos on Nov 5, 2014, 12:48 PM
          1. Re: ok - INCquisition on Nov 6, 2014, 12:37 PM
            1. another misreading by incq. for clearer view of joh 17:12, pls read ERV. - Kumag Ka on Nov 6, 2014, 1:48 PM
              1. Re: another misreading by incq. for clearer view of joh 17:12, pls read ERV. - Nom on Nov 7, 2014, 1:45 PM
            2. Re: ok - Karlos on Nov 7, 2014, 12:16 PM
            3. Re: ok - Karlos on Nov 7, 2014, 1:36 PM
              1. Compare spiritual things with spiritual as the Holy Spirit teaches (1 Cor. 2:13). - INCquisitor on Nov 9, 2014, 12:35 AM
                1. Re: Compare spiritual things with spiritual as the Holy Spirit teaches (1 Cor. 2:13). - Karlos on Nov 9, 2014, 3:35 AM
                2. in addition, do not speculate nor add words to what is written ! - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:41 PM
        2. Indeed, any argument based on mere speculation is USELess. - Observer3 on Nov 15, 2014, 9:42 PM
          1. Jesus said, "There is NOTHING that ENTERS a man from outside.... - INCquisitor on Nov 18, 2014, 10:55 PM
     
  15. personality profile of bro. Eduardo V Manalo. View Thread - horizon on Nov 26, 2014, 6:50 PM
    1. If the horseshoe fits, it must be Mister ED! - jodlas on Nov 26, 2014, 7:16 PM
    2. Yes, it is sad when a church is led by an unsaved man. - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 11:42 AM
      1. Sadder when he discovers that THERE IS NO WAY FOR HIM TO KNOW NOW WHETHER CHRIST IS GOD OR - |Judie_84 on Dec 7, 2014, 8:09 PM
        1. lol - |Judie_84 on Dec 9, 2014, 10:49 PM
        2. It is sad only to those who are desperate to know that. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 11:47 AM
     
 
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