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  1. blah blah blah View Thread - Jodlas on Sep 23, 11:24 PM
    1. for me, my exchanges with the INC clowns here proved that their theology is empty. hehe - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:29 PM
     
  2. Jesus cannot guarantee positions in heaven, but why if he is God? View Thread - Kumag Ka on Aug 7, 10:45 AM
    1. because you are just a boy! hahaha. you are always complaining about Christ's deity. hehe - |Judie_84 on Sep 15, 12:13 PM
      1. the tiny blind ant saying the elephant is as small as him! hahaha! - |Judie_84 on Sep 15, 12:14 PM
        1. as usual Judie tries to hide the issue by saying he's dumb he can't fathom the issue. lol - Observer3 on Sep 16, 11:36 PM
        2. tiny little blind ant: "Hey elephant! We're of the same size!" lol! - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:03 AM
      2. usual polemics to hide his ignorance of the issue...lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 19, 8:08 AM
      3. usual polemics to hide his ignorance of the issue...lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 19, 8:08 AM
    2. two things. Please click to see comment. - jodlas on Sep 15, 10:59 PM
    3. jesus himself said he can't do anything without God, so what? he's a helpless minor God? - Observer3 on Sep 16, 11:35 PM
      1. The Son is subordinate to the Father. - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:01 AM
        1. Do you want the Son to be not obedient to the Father? Do want disharmony between them? - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:16 AM
        2. thus not equal. hahaha so you have a major God and a minor, subordinate God !!!!? - Observer3 on Sep 17, 10:37 PM
          1. He became the Son, but it was not always that way. The Word was God. he was sent to the - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 1:16 AM
          2. The Word was God, he became man, Jesus. The Father is God, the Word was God. are they not - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 1:20 AM
          3. until the end Jesus will always be subordinate to the Father, the Almighty God. - Kumag Ka on Sep 23, 10:09 AM
            1. What's the problem if a son is subordinate, thus obedient to his father? did the son cease - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:06 PM
              1. When will stop being disrespectful to the Son of God? - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:07 PM
    4. Some things were left to the prerogative of the Father. The Father commands the Son and - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:11 AM
    5. The LORD ate, but why if he is God? lol Genesis 18:1-7 - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:14 AM
      1. little boy, you still have a lot to learn if you are a serious student of the Bible. - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:17 AM
      2. isn't your God Almighty? why should he needs to eat to live? lol - Observer3 on Sep 17, 10:38 PM
        1. Were you told God needs to eat to live? hehe. Where did you learn that? - |Judie_84 on Sep 20, 8:50 AM
          1. so why should he eat then? so why should he not go to toilet after eating? lol - Observer3 on Sep 23, 1:34 PM
            1. They honored Abraham's hospitality. "Abraham saw my day and was glad." the Lord Jesus - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:25 PM
    6. why? and none has the answer.lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 18, 3:35 PM
    7. Kumag Honey Babe, HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 20, 9:22 AM
    8. Judie says Jesus is subordinate to the Father. UNequal GOds in the TRinity. - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:25 PM
      1. TRINITY - one God in three persons. not three Gods. you never learn kumago. little boy. - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:34 AM
        1. estupido! Father is God, Jesus is God, Holy Spirit is God - 3 Gods !! - Observer3 on Sep 23, 1:36 PM
          1. Hahaha. you will never learn kumago. not unless God would pity you! - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:08 PM
    9. where in the bible does it say that He can't? Lets start with you proving that first. - jodlas on Sep 21, 2:39 AM
    10. kumago was not guaranteed a position in the Christians' heaven. no hope for him. - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 5:09 AM
      1. he placed his hope on the sensual paradise offered by his arabic god. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 5:11 AM
      2. he placed his hope on the sensual paradise offered by his arabic god. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 5:12 AM
        1. That adequately explains why he keeps on ridiculing the Lord Jesus. No wonder. - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 5:14 AM
    11. Kumag Honey Babe, HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 21, 5:36 AM
    12. Why if he is God? Because he could not, only the Father can guarantee that. - Observer3 on Sep 23, 1:39 PM
      1. Re: Why if he is God? Because he could not, only the Father can guarantee that. - Nom on Sep 23, 3:36 PM
        1. who's this saling-pusa ramming his impaired post here? Face the issue, boyha haha - Observer3 on Sep 23, 10:58 PM
     
  3. Tomas, if you believe God the Father is the only YAHWEH, does He eat? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 9:59 AM
    1. must God eat to nourish himself or else he dies? - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 2:40 PM
      1. Hahaha, the unwell responded again though no one was asking for his foolish idea! LOL - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 2:44 PM
        1. does your God brush his teeth after eating, dude? lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:02 PM
          1. Re: does your God brush his teeth after eating, dude? lol - Nom on Sep 22, 3:39 PM
            1. hhahhahaha the impaired idiot has resurfaced again...lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 23, 10:01 AM
              1. Re: hhahhahaha the impaired idiot has resurfaced again...lol - Nom on Sep 23, 11:34 AM
    2. for Tom, hey Tom, you can ask ROMMEL VILLANUEVA SAN PEDRO on stories of USAF BOB PELLIEN - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 3:47 PM
    3. If the Father is the only YAHWEH, did the Father fulfill the prophecy in Zech 12:10? - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 11:46 PM
      1. Tomas... - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:21 PM
    4. Oh yeah, Jude's God has blood, hands, arms, eats and goes to toilet too.lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 23, 9:54 AM
    5. Tomas... - |Judie_84 on Sep 23, 11:20 PM
     
  4. Judie said Jesus is God that became man. Assuming, did he stop being God View Thread - Observer3 on Sep 23, 1:59 PM
    1. did that God who became man stop being God? No verse to cite- shut up ! - Observer3 on Sep 23, 11:01 PM
     
  5. Pondering # of INC Members like ASP who talk BIG here but REMAIN in the FOLD View Thread - Eric on Sep 23, 9:15 PM
    1. what do you mean steadfast? - ASP on Sep 23, 9:47 PM
      1. ASP: I just dont how you can DEFY what GOD wants. Plain and simple - Eric on Sep 23, 10:30 PM
     
  6. Not a lover of money, not violent etc View Thread - hijo on Sep 23, 4:10 PM
    1. They all love money. - Horizon on Sep 23, 5:57 PM
      1. i guess INC Ramiel thinks $$$$ is more important than praying to God - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 9:15 PM
     
  7. INC Arena latest news View Thread - ASP on Sep 22, 4:27 PM
    1. hey, no offense Colonel ASP, but why did you guys in America help Ed build an Arena? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:19 PM
      1. as we all know - they have a verse for everything and twist it as needed - ASP on Sep 22, 7:31 PM
        1. well, you know SCAN will hunt you down, but I admire your Bravery Colonel ASP - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:42 PM
        2. Why you STILL attending? wife an OFFICER? - Eric on Sep 23, 2:53 AM
          1. oh yay ozzy's gay boyfriend is back. Feel better oz? Company of idiots. LOL. - Jodlas on Sep 23, 10:44 AM
            1. Jodlas, INC Minister Rextatlin Rosquites said an INC Head Deacon is a MURDERER - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:51 PM
              1. And that has what to do with what? Get off crack Oz! - jodlas on Sep 23, 8:59 PM
                1. Why is "CALLING me GAY" relevant to my question you JACKASS! - Eric on Sep 23, 9:00 PM
              2. You should be happy your gay bf erica is back. Go play with him in your basement. - jodlas on Sep 23, 9:00 PM
              3. and leave the rest of us in peace. Amen. - jodlas on Sep 23, 9:00 PM
            2. Jodlas, you are a die-hard closet INC-defender. Was that kadiwa MURDERED? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 9:13 PM
     
  8. Manalo family business money woes? View Thread - Horizon on Sep 21, 10:49 PM
    1. INC Rommel San Pedro is probably updating his resume. He can ask Allan Villanueva for job - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 10:57 PM
    2. For Tomas: Bible Quiz. how was Matthew 24:32-34 fulfilled in the first century - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:52 AM
    3. INC financial collapse - HiJo on Sep 22, 4:59 AM
      1. Re: INC financial collapse - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 5:38 AM
        1. Women strong believers in INC - HiJo on Sep 23, 10:31 AM
          1. very true, Colonel Hijo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 1:13 PM
            1. Poor kids - hijo on Sep 23, 4:05 PM
    4. Jodlas knows INC Minister Rextatlin Rosquites who said an INC Head Deacon is a MURDERER - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 1:00 PM
      1. I am sure everyone believes oz who doesn't back up anything he says. - jodlas on Sep 23, 8:56 PM
        1. Oz sounds just like INC ministers eh? - jodlas on Sep 23, 8:57 PM
        2. Calling OZ! Get yourself off crack man. It's not good for you! - jodlas on Sep 23, 8:57 PM
          1. INC wil tell you CRACK is NOt a sin cause the WORD is not there - Eric on Sep 23, 9:03 PM
        3. Jodlas, you are a die-hard closet INC-defender. Was that kadiwa MURDERED? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 9:12 PM
     
  9. aside from kumago, who else here worships a sonless god? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Aug 5, 12:41 AM
    1. where is kumago hiding? lol - |Judie_84 on Aug 5, 12:42 AM
    2. Jesus' Father is also my Father, his God my God. Pity u don't know this verse'. - Kumag Ka on Aug 7, 9:40 AM
      1. in that verse, was Jesus talking to you? LOL. do you now believe Jesus is the Son of God? - |Judie_84 on Aug 7, 2:27 PM
        1. i thought your god does not have a son? LOL - |Judie_84 on Aug 7, 2:28 PM
        2. tell my brothers that he is my Father and their Father - Kumag Ka on Aug 10, 4:18 PM
      2. How come God is your "Father", but you say Jesus is not the Son of God? are you usurping - |Judie_84 on Aug 8, 1:25 AM
        1. so you are indeed biologically deranged. - Kumag Ka on Aug 10, 4:23 PM
          1. So little boy kumago, you are a metaphorical son of your father? Who is he? the D? LOL - |Judie_84 on Sep 14, 5:52 PM
    3. Judie, many here seems to not know that the Son was not created but begotten. - Michael on Aug 7, 12:20 PM
      1. but the one and only Son, who is himself God - |Judie_84 on Aug 7, 2:35 PM
        1. Jesus is not the only son begotten, are they Gods too? - Kumag Ka on Aug 10, 4:20 PM
          1. He is the only son begotten by God. - Tomas on Aug 23, 1:49 PM
            1. cite proof of what you're blabbing about, tom. and define begotten, pls. - Observer3 on Sep 16, 11:42 PM
            2. cite proof of what you're blabbing about, tom. and define begotten, pls. - Observer3 on Sep 16, 11:43 PM
              1. So who else begot him? Not a man, - Tomas on Sep 20, 10:58 AM
                1. tom, did God has sexual contact with Mary? That's what you are actually saying - Observer3 on Sep 23, 1:54 PM
          2. aside from you kumago, who else here worships a sonless god? your god is sonless right? - |Judie_84 on Sep 11, 10:21 PM
            1. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever - |Judie_84 on Sep 11, 10:25 PM
            2. then prove that he isthe biological son, not methoporical. try DNA - Observer3 on Sep 17, 10:42 PM
    4. if you say he's the biological son of God, the prove it ! - Observer3 on Sep 16, 11:40 PM
      1. So you really don't understand Scriptures. Read John 1:13 - |Judie_84 on Sep 16, 11:54 PM
        1. How can you be helped with your blindness by choice kumago? - |Judie_84 on Sep 16, 11:55 PM
          1. Re: How can you be helped with your blindness by choice kumago? - |Judie_84 on Sep 16, 11:59 PM
        2. just send the verse that he is the biological son, then shut up, willyou? - Observer3 on Sep 17, 10:44 PM
        3. did those verses say he's literally the biological son? if not then shut up, you idiot! - Kumag Ka on Sep 18, 3:31 PM
          1. The literal son of God, but why ask about biological? - Tomas on Sep 20, 11:08 AM
            1. explain what "overshadowed" means to you, Tom. - Kumag Ka on Sep 20, 1:25 PM
              1. No, God did not create him through Mary. - Tomas on Sep 20, 2:32 PM
                1. I think Guenter has a different meaning for that "overshadowed" - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:17 PM
    5. For Tomas: HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 20, 9:27 AM
     
  10. Sort of sad View Thread - HiJo on Sep 18, 7:28 AM
    1. Re: Sort of sad - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 20, 9:38 AM
    2. this is great. Colonel ASP or Capt Seabird or INC Emmanuel, spill the beans if you know - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 6:39 PM
      1. INC USMO Minister & General Counsel Rommel Villanueva San Pedro, you are aware of USAF Bob - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 8:43 PM
        1. where the heck is INC Wormjacob? - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 8:52 PM
      2. here's a solution for solving Eduardo Manalo's money cash flow shortage problems - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 10:41 PM
        1. Hey EDUARDO MANALO, your congregant Jodlas Flipped-Out after Rommel San Pedro was outed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 2:09 AM
        2. Jodlas knows INC Minister Rextatlin Rosquites who said an INC Head Deacon is a MURDERER - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:56 PM
    3. Hey EDUARDO MANALO, your congregant Jodlas Flipped-Out after Rommel San Pedro was outed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 2:08 AM
      1. Colonel Tomas, if you want to find out if EVM is honest, you have the phone number & email - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 2:21 AM
    4. Jodlas knows INC Minister Rextatlin Rosquites who said an INC Head Deacon is a MURDERER - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 1:04 PM
      1. Jodlas, you are a die-hard closet INC-defender. Was that kadiwa MURDERED? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 1:08 PM
     
  11. What does it mean if an INCer has sex with you? View Thread - nonINCgf on Sep 21, 3:54 PM
    1. Re: What does it mean if an INCer has sex with you? - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 5:54 PM
      1. Re: What does it mean if an INCer has sex with you? - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 6:18 PM
        1. Huh? - nonINCgf on Sep 21, 6:43 PM
          1. what i said has nothing to do with getting USA citizenship status - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 21, 6:49 PM
            1. No, what you said is the rambling of a lunatic. God help anyone that asks you for advice. - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:29 PM
              1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:32 PM
      2. means you have been Inc'ed - HiJo on Sep 23, 10:27 AM
    2. Sorry girl. INCers don't honor any commitment with non-INCers. - INCquisitor on Sep 21, 11:10 PM
      1. even INC ministers don't honor their marital vow and do commit adultery - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:00 AM
    3. inc level of commitment compared to non-inc - jodlas on Sep 22, 1:15 AM
      1. man you really are Wormjacob, aren't you Jodlas? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:28 AM
        1. if you don't have anything useful to say, keep your mouth shut. - Jodlas on Sep 22, 12:47 PM
          1. who made you god of this forum? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:01 PM
            1. I guess you just did. Thanks! - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:31 PM
              1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:35 PM
            2. I didn't realize I was the god of this forum until you just told me :) - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:32 PM
              1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:33 PM
          2. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:36 PM
      2. Jodlas, do you know INC minister Rommel Villanueva San Pedro (He's on TV frequently) - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:31 AM
      3. I see - nonINCgf on Sep 22, 1:32 AM
      4. Jodlas, you seem to be a know-it-all Manalista with inside knowledge - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 12:09 PM
        1. Colonel ASP, you are a Norcal kind of guy knowing Arturo Valentino G Gamo at USMO DalyCity - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 12:24 PM
          1. ROMMEL VILLANUEVA SAN PEDRO OF INC USMO BURLINGAME - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 12:35 PM
        2. again, why don't you just keep your mouth shut? - Jodlas on Sep 22, 12:48 PM
          1. who made you god of this forum? I dare you to beat me up. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:02 PM
            1. Seems I am already doing a good job of beating you up. - jodlas on Sep 22, 6:17 PM
              1. you are dreaming, Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:17 PM
                1. Nah. Don't flatter yourself. I dream of things much better than that. - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:23 PM
                  1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:33 PM
                    1. Pissed off? Nah. Very annoyed at your stupidity, yes. - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:35 PM
                      1. why are you so gay sensitive? you are the new-comer in this forum - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:37 PM
                        1. Gay-sensitive? Why, are you gay sir Oz? - jodlas on Sep 22, 8:32 PM
                          1. keep bumping up this thread, you INC-insider who is ultra-sensitive gay-Boy - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 8:57 PM
                            1. Ozzy wozzy is upset. Don't cry ozzy! - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:00 PM
                              1. hey Rommel, don't lose your mind - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:03 PM
                      2. you're stupid, pretending to be a non-manalista & blowing up at exposures of Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:39 PM
                        1. LOL at you thinking I'm pissed when you post the same message 5 times. Who's pissed? - jodlas on Sep 22, 8:33 PM
                          1. keep bumping up this thread, you INC-insider - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 8:56 PM
                            1. Aww poor ozzy baby is upset. Someone go find his pacifier :) - jodlas on Sep 22, 8:59 PM
                              1. Handog dog Worm-jacob Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:02 PM
                                1. Implicate? Do you? I certainly do. Sorry for the big words. Get a dictionary. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:24 PM
                                2. Oh but don't strain your brain too much. Wouldn't want you to get a stroke. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:30 PM
                                3. are one of these guys your INC-manalista buddy? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:41 PM
                                4. IDK. I don't bother reading your posts anymore since you always bring up the same crap. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:23 AM
                                5. BUT I don't have any manalista buddies as you put it. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:24 AM
                                6. Your manlista buddies must have dumped you eh? Is that why you have a hard on for them? - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:25 AM
                                7. Poor oz, dumped by the manalistas and feeling hurt and revengeful. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:26 AM
                                8. now i understand. Don't cry oz, its ok there are other gay people out there for you! - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:26 AM
                                9. you Flipper Jodlas. you can't scare people and can't scare me - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:34 AM
                              2. INC-manalista buddies of Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:44 PM
                                1. Oz, mad again? posting multiples of same post does not make you right. You act like INC. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:28 AM
                                2. you Flipper Jodlas. you can't scare people and can't scare me - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:33 AM
                                3. you sound defensive. when did i say i was trying to scare you? You must scare easily. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:48 AM
                                4. stupid oz. doesn't even make sense. what drug are you on? - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:49 AM
                                5. Hey EDUARDO MANALO, your congregant Jodlas Flipped-Out after Rommel San Pedro was outed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 2:05 AM
        3. why thank you, I will take that as a compliment. - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:34 PM
          1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:35 PM
    4. For INC Emmanuel, Emmanuel as of this date, you probably will resign from Manalistas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:00 PM
      1. hey Jodlas, be honest on my question to you about Rommel Villanueva San Pedro - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:04 PM
        1. now Eduardo Villanueva Manalo will be grilling INC USAF Bob Pellien & Dino Tigas Bunag - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:09 PM
        2. so you're saying there are only "manalistas" and protestants in this world? lol - jodlas on Sep 22, 6:22 PM
          1. dude, you are not funny. so you can screw yourself - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:16 PM
            1. Actually I am quite funny. But I wasn't trying to be funny in this case. Idiot. - jodlas on Sep 22, 7:25 PM
              1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:32 PM
      2. Jodlas, if you have any guts, you would be exposing names in the INC - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 1:25 PM
        1. Bite Me. - jodlas on Sep 22, 5:53 PM
          1. you really are trying to scare us away. Are you Rommel Villanueva San Pedro? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 7:34 PM
            1. You would be scary if you weren't so pathetic. Go bark up another tree. - jodlas on Sep 22, 8:35 PM
              1. Gay-Boy Jodlas. you really are Worm-Jacob, aren't you? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 8:58 PM
                1. Do you accuse everyone that gets the upper hand on you to be wormjacob? - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:00 PM
                  1. hey Rommel, don't lose your mind - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:04 PM
                    1. Thanks for the concern Oz. No worries. It won't happen. And the name is Joe, not rommel. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:23 PM
                      1. INC-manalista buddies of Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:43 PM
                2. And you must be a homophobe to think everyone else takes offense at you calling them gay. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:01 PM
                  1. Hey Rommel, stop being a drama-queen - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:05 PM
                    1. boo hoo. poor ozzy had his teddy bear stolen when he was but a wee lad. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:22 PM
                      1. Now he's just sore and grumpy and sad. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:25 PM
                        1. But it should not make you so incredibly bad. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:26 PM
                          1. Maybe you will change your tune if you go cry to your dad. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:26 PM
                            1. Wow, now I'm serially posting stupidity. Guess Oz is contagious. - jodlas on Sep 22, 9:27 PM
                              1. INC-manalista buddies of Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:43 PM
                      2. INC-manalista buddies of Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:45 PM
              2. INC-manalista buddies of Jodlas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:45 PM
              3. Joe Jose Jodlas, why did you flip of the cliff? Are you a Flipper? you Flip - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 9:48 PM
                1. LOL you are too funny. Looking. Seriously. Too Stupid to live on this planet. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:29 AM
                  1. you Flipper Jodlas. you can't scare people and can't scare me - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:32 AM
      3. INC USMO (Burlingame) minister ROMMEL VILLANUEVA SAN PEDRO - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 3:30 PM
    5. you can email ROMMEL VILLANUEVA SAN PEDRO on your questions - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 3:40 PM
    6. Flipper Jodas the Flip Filipinese. he can's scare people away - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:36 AM
      1. can's??? learn to type. stupid oz. - jodlas on Sep 23, 12:50 AM
        1. Hey EDUARDO MANALO, your congregant Jodlas Flipped-Out after Rommel San Pedro was outed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 2:04 AM
    7. Hey EDUARDO MANALO, your congregant Jodlas Flipped-Out after Rommel San Pedro was outed - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 2:06 AM
    8. Jodlas knows INC Minister Rextatlin Rosquites who said an INC Head Deacon is a MURDERER - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 23, 12:55 PM
     
  12. "no verse to prove Jesus claimed he's the son of god; son of man- yes." by observer2 View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jul 3, 3:08 PM
    1. Just don't take Observer2 seriously. We know he's sick. hehe. - |Judie_84 on Jul 3, 3:10 PM
      1. He is not sick, just liberal, rejecting some verses. - Tomas on Jul 5, 1:51 PM
        1. they're sick, they need the Divine Healer to let them see the light. but they are too - |Judie_84 on Jul 8, 9:18 AM
          1. What? So far on this forum I have been able to reconcile - Tomas on Jul 12, 8:59 AM
            1. really? You believe that the Father is coming down to reign on earth in the Millennium, - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 10:34 AM
              1. Zech. 14:9 speaks only of the Father. He will be - Tomas on Jul 12, 10:40 AM
                1. So two Lords will rule in the Millennium, not just one? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 10:53 AM
                  1. The Father is Lord and the Son is Lord too right? So in the Millennium, both of them will - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 11:02 AM
                    1. The Lord said unto my lord, sit thou at my right hand until i make thine enemies a - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 11:04 AM
                      1. Yes, two Lords. Perfectly consistent with Zech. 14, - Tomas on Jul 12, 11:22 AM
                        1. how can two Lords be consistent with one Lord? hehe. Is it two equals one? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:13 PM
                          1. I told you, Zech. 14 does not say in Hebrew one Lord, but one Yahweh. - Tomas on Jul 12, 3:26 PM
                            1. hehehe. So the English version of that verse is mistranslated? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:37 PM
                              1. It is misleading. I am sure they meant well, because - Tomas on Jul 12, 3:55 PM
                                1. Note that the verse did not really say Yahweh will be the only king over the whole earth. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:59 PM
                                2. Does it say 'the only king'? Do you see the word 'only' there? - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:02 PM
                                3. Do you see "two kings" there Tomas? where? it says "one Lord". does that mean tw - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:08 PM
                                4. It says one Yahweh in Hebrew, not one Lord. - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:13 PM
                                5. hahaha. ok. or maybe, just maybe, you are not allowed to understand the prophecy that's - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:20 PM
                                6. Still can't make up his mind up to now what to believe? - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:46 PM
                                7. your post. read it again. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:53 PM
                                8. OK, that one. Well the Bible never says if Zechariah knew - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:58 PM
                                9. how shall Zechariah know that when the Bible does not give even a hint that the Messiah - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:07 PM
                                10. Zechariah says the Father will rule, Isaiah says the Messiah - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:21 PM
                                11. "the Father will rule" - Go, find what verse in Zechariah says that. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:27 PM
                                12. how many million gods are there now living Tomas? lol - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:28 PM
                                13. I don't know what percentage of Christians are really saved. - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:38 PM
                                14. you evade the question. answer it Tomas. give the number. How many gods? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:40 PM
                                15. Am I God, that I could tell you how many Christians are saved? - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:46 PM
                                16. the question is "how many gods?" not "how many Christians are saved". you can gi - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:55 PM
                                17. The number is equal to the number of Christians saved. - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:59 PM
                                18. hahaha. more than ten million gods we have by Tomas. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 6:13 PM
                                19. If you think fewer are saved, OK, have it your way. - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:37 PM
                                20. Zech. 14:9, Yahweh will become king. And since - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:37 PM
                                21. the question is where is the verse which says "the Father will rule"? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:43 PM
                                22. I told you, Yahweh is the Father alone. And he will - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:49 PM
                                23. so you admit there is no verse which say "the Father will rule"? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:51 PM
                                24. Not 'rule', at least not in Zech. 14, but he will be king - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:02 PM
                                25. you fond of evading the question. i repeat it again. is there a verse in Zech 14 which - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 6:08 PM
                                26. How did I evade, I said clearly no verse says 'rule', - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:47 PM
                                27. don't keep me happy. do i need your approval? - |Judie_84 on Jul 13, 12:07 AM
                                28. Of course you don't need my approval, you need God's approval, - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:14 AM
                                29. you say both the Father and the Son will rule in the Millennium. where's the proof? - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 12:38 AM
                                30. The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 12:48 AM
                                31. Misleading translation. A much better translation is - Tomas on Aug 2, 4:37 PM
                                32. your speculation. your own thinking. your private interpretation. - |Judie_84 on Jul 22, 11:39 PM
                                33. That is Catholic and INC wrong interpretation of 2 Peter 1:20-21. - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:35 PM
                                34. Yahweh is God - OT. Yahweh is Lord - NT. Jesus is Lord so Jesus, too, is Yahweh. - |Judie_84 on Jul 15, 9:43 AM
                                35. Jesus is Lord too, but not every Lord is Yahweh. - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:17 AM
                                36. many verses prove Jesus is YAHWEH too. - |Judie_84 on Jul 22, 12:17 AM
                                37. I have yet to see one. - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:36 PM
                                38. you'd been shown many, you are not just willing to accept them as proofs that He is Yahweh - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 2:18 AM
                                39. Here are some of the verses, but i know you would just reject them, just like what kumago - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 2:27 AM
                                40. yes, the devil also uses verses, vague and ambiguous, to pursue its mission. lol - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 1:30 PM
                                41. yes, you are the devil. you know well how he works, hahaha - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 1:00 AM
                                42. you're so ambiguous. hahaha. u do not even know that Jesus is the Son of God. - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 1:02 AM
                                43. hahahaha even Jesus didn't know he's the biological son of God. - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 12:31 PM
                                44. so, if Jesus is not the Son of the Father, whose Son is He? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 2:40 PM
                                45. you know who else uses vague and ambiguous verses? - INCgoersGF on Sep 21, 4:29 PM
                                46. Judie, so similar things are said of both of them, - Tomas on Aug 2, 4:41 PM
                                47. but Like what i have said, i know you would reject them, just like what kumago's been - |Judie_84 on Aug 18, 2:49 AM
                                48. I don't reject them, I believe them. We need to honor both. - Tomas on Aug 23, 7:07 AM
                                49. the name Yahweh has been discontinued temporarily, so it is not used in the New Testament - |Judie_84 on Aug 3, 12:08 AM
                                50. Why give me that website? It does not say which ones - Tomas on Aug 3, 12:54 AM
                                51. Re: It is misleading. I am sure they meant well, because - Karlos on Sep 22, 1:26 PM
                            2. "Jesus is YAHWEH" Phil 2:9-11 - by Jon Bloom - desiringgod.com - |Judie_84 on Jul 14, 1:39 AM
                              1. Phil. 2:9-11 does not say that Paul is quoting or paraphrasing - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:22 AM
                                1. You are entitled to your unbelief Tomas. hehe - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 10:52 PM
                                2. Paul is emphatic in his statement in his statement that Jesus Christ is Lord (O.T.'s YHWH) - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 12:27 AM
                                3. Heb. 1:10-12 is not a direct quote from Ps. 102:25-27, - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:40 PM
                                4. so the Son, according to the Father, created the heavens and the earth. do you agree? - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 2:35 AM
                                5. Yes, the Father commanded it, the Son obeyed and - Tomas on Aug 2, 4:45 PM
                                6. being the co-creator, as you already admitted, is he a co-owner of the universe together - |Judie_84 on Aug 3, 8:17 AM
                                7. He might be. I would have to study it. - Tomas on Aug 3, 8:22 AM
                                8. hahaha. i thought you are honestly seeking the truth Tomas. it does not seem important to - |Judie_84 on Aug 18, 3:59 AM
                                9. So what that Jesus co-created all and co-owns all? - Tomas on Aug 23, 5:02 PM
                                10. what is important for you is "your" truth that Christians cannot know NOW whether Jesus is - |Judie_84 on Aug 18, 4:01 AM
                                11. It's not so important, but because it is biblical, - Tomas on Aug 23, 5:04 PM
                                12. you mean Jesus' title as Lord is lower than the name YAHWEH? - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 2:42 AM
                                13. Yes, Jesus is not Lord over Yahweh, but under him. - Tomas on Aug 2, 4:49 PM
                                14. but Jesus is YAHWEH too. do you believe that Tomas? - |Judie_84 on Aug 3, 12:28 AM
                                15. Do you need me to repeat the proofs that Yahweh - Tomas on Aug 3, 12:56 AM
                                16. ok. i'd just leave you with your strong desire not to recognize Jesus as YAHWEH too. LOL - |Judie_84 on Aug 3, 8:14 AM
                        2. you are taking away Christ's honor of being the Ruler in the Millennium. You want Jesus - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:18 PM
                          1. It is still a great honor to be co-ruler with the Father. - Tomas on Jul 12, 3:28 PM
                            1. hehehe. i really can't get you Tomas. Show me the verse which says that Christ will be - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:41 PM
                              1. In Is. 9, Jesus is described as the ruler, but notice - Tomas on Jul 12, 3:59 PM
                                1. So you now admit that Jesus is the one who will rule? Will this be in the Millennium? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:05 PM
                                2. He will rule, but still under the Father's authority, as I - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:16 PM
                                3. is Jesus the King, who will rule in the millennium? is he the one who will be worshiped? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:22 PM
                                4. who will be worshiped by the nations? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:22 PM
                                5. will Jesus be worshiped by the nations in the millennium? is he the coming king? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:26 PM
                                6. Yes, of course I believe he will be worshipped. - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:49 PM
                                7. hehehe. you keep adding things where that are no mention of the Father as being worshiped - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:58 PM
                                8. Why point me to that passage? That does not mention - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:06 PM
                                9. when did i say the Father will not be worshiped in the millennium? your dishonesty is - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:10 PM
                                10. Dishonesty? You yourself said I am adding things there, - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:28 PM
                                11. You were deliberate in imputing to me that lie Tomas. You even expounded it by asking - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:38 PM
                                12. Not deliberate, just reread your post under number 7 above. - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:57 PM
                                13. you are fast becoming like kumago due to your frustrations at refuting the teachings of - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 6:26 PM
                                14. "That does not mention either one being worshipped." You mean the child will only rule - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:14 PM
                                15. You have your new doctrine that Christ will no longer rule after the millennium, - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:16 PM
                                16. how many million gods are there now Tomas? less than 2 billion and most of them are - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:18 PM
                                17. "Will the Father become so inferior he will no longer be worthy of worship." you are pro- - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:21 PM
                                18. who taught you this Tomas? "Will the Father become so inferior he will no longer be worthy - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:32 PM
                                19. Of course that would be blasphemy and not truth. - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:43 PM
                                20. why did you impute that lie to me Tomas? - it's you who wrote it, not me. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:45 PM
                                21. I wrote it? It sure was not me. So I copied it below. - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:08 PM
                                22. The time stamp on it is 4:58 PM. So who wrote it if not you? - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:11 PM
                                23. find the words where i said that "the Father will not be worshiped in the millennium"? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 6:22 PM
                                24. Yes, you found it. OK, it has some bad grammar, - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:59 PM
                                25. "we should not worship him in the millennium" - how gross of you - |Judie_84 on Jul 13, 12:09 AM
                                26. OK, I misunderstood you due to your clumsy wording. - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:24 AM
                                27. when did the Son seek independence from the Father? where is the verse that states that - |Judie_84 on Jul 14, 11:52 PM
                                28. The Son had always been and will always be under the Father's authority. No doubt about it - |Judie_84 on Jul 15, 12:17 AM
                                29. Jesus said he can't do anything without the Father, so how could they be equal? - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 2:49 PM
                                30. in their nature as God. the Father is God, the Son is God. God = God. - |Judie_84 on Jul 18, 8:09 AM
                                31. So,we have2Gods here, and u forgot the Holy Spirit as God too.lol - Kumag Ka on Jul 18, 11:24 AM
                                32. Tse! you already know the answer to that! but you kept repeating it! it's up to your - |Judie_84 on Jul 18, 11:39 AM
                                33. Hehehe... - |Judie_84 on Jul 18, 3:24 PM
                                34. That's right, Judie, the Son will always be under the Father's - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:27 AM
                                35. No verse says the Father is coming to down earth to rule with Christ in the Millennium. - |Judie_84 on Jul 20, 11:43 PM
                                36. yes, but Jesus is the one who will rule the earth in the Millennium. - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 10:40 PM
                                37. Jesus is the one who will come down from heaven. DO YOU AGREE TOMAS? - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 10:42 PM
                                38. The Father will come down too, see Zech. 14. - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:44 PM
                                39. what verse in Zechariah 14 says "the Father"? Tomas, can't you be honest? - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 12:50 AM
                                40. It says Yahweh. And Yahweh is the Father, as I have - Tomas on Aug 2, 4:55 PM
                                41. If you believe the Father is the only YAHWEH, does God the Father eat Tomas? - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 9:53 AM
                                42. Learn something, jUDIE. Read 1Cor15:28-Jesus reign is temporary, he will place himself - Kumag Ka on Aug 22, 10:04 AM
                    2. Judie, simple, you have to look at it in the original Hebrew. - Tomas on Jul 12, 11:14 AM
                      1. Jesus is Yahweh - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:11 PM
                        1. The word trinity comes from the same word as the word ONE? - Tomas on Jul 12, 3:23 PM
                          1. so how do you refute those numerous verses shown to prove Jesus is Yahweh? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 3:44 PM
                            1. Refute the verses he'd shown Tomas and make it appear that Jesus is not Yahweh. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:01 PM
                              1. He claims that just because all that God has, is also Jesus', - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:10 PM
                                1. so you now admit that all that the Father has is also Jesus'? - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:17 PM
                                2. Yes, under the Father's authority, and only because - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:20 PM
                                3. Maybe Jesus is God. How did you know that? aren't you the one who keeps saying we can't - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:25 PM
                                4. Isn't it the same to say maybe Jesus is God, and - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:55 PM
                                5. hahaha. even now, i'm surprised already with your statements. both the INC and Christians - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:02 PM
                                6. Not all Christians. But both the INC Christians and - Tomas on Jul 12, 5:20 PM
                                7. you are dogmatic that we, except your small group, are wrong but you also say you are not - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:25 PM
                                8. how many million gods are there now living Tomas? hehe - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:26 PM
                                9. As I told you above, I don't know how many Christians are saved, - Tomas on Jul 12, 7:02 PM
                                10. It is what I clearly see in the Bible, so I am dogmatic about it. - Tomas on Jul 12, 6:35 PM
                                11. Tomas, "MAYBEs" are uncertainties, and so are tainted with doubts. - Michael on Aug 1, 11:16 AM
                                12. We should say maybe, where the Bible does not tell us something. - Tomas on Aug 2, 5:56 PM
                                13. Where scriptures is silent, then we ought to be too, & not go making useless speculations. - Michael on Aug 7, 11:07 PM
                                14. Do you want me to tell you simply I will be silent about if Jesus is God? - Tomas on Aug 9, 9:22 PM
                                15. Re: Do you want me to tell you simply I will be silent about if Jesus is God? - Michael on Aug 12, 10:13 PM
                                16. OK, if you give me a verse you think says Jesus is God, - Tomas on Aug 23, 7:48 AM
                                17. By Tomas: Jesus owns everything that God has but he is not God. weehhh!!! - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 10:46 AM
                                18. Tomas, can't you be any saner? - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 2:41 PM
                        2. Refute the above verses Tomas. make them appear not to point to Christ as Yahweh. - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:10 PM
                          1. The verses are correct, but none of them say Christ is Yahweh. - Tomas on Jul 12, 4:18 PM
                            1. you mean none says directly that Christ is Yahweh in spite of the truth that he owns what - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 4:28 PM
                              1. To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everythin - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 5:58 PM
                              2. For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 6:06 PM
                                1. So the Father there is called God of gods, while Jesus - Tomas on Jul 12, 7:07 PM
                                2. In the OT, the Father was the only Lord of lords, while in the NT, the Son was also called - |Judie_84 on Jul 13, 12:15 AM
                                3. The Father is Lord of all lords, including the Son. - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:32 AM
                                4. the Son is Lord of lords, the King, the LORD of Hosts... - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 10:56 PM
                                5. Yes, he is Lord of Lords etc. Still we can see in one - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:52 PM
                                6. yes, your god does not want you to know that. no doubt about it. - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 1:04 AM
                                7. My God and your God does not want you to know it either. - Tomas on Aug 2, 6:24 PM
                                8. we have different gods Tomas. your god does not want you to know NOW whether Jesus is God - |Judie_84 on Aug 8, 1:14 AM
                                9. No, we have the same God. And I am telling you, - Tomas on Aug 9, 9:30 PM
                                10. not same god, tom. judie's god eats, has blood, ears, legs in fact hi god is a creature ! - Observer2 on Aug 12, 1:27 PM
                                11. Observer2, the Bible says in Gen. 18:8,22, that God and 2 angels ate - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:01 AM
                                12. My God has already revealed to me and all the Christians out there the true identity of - |Judie_84 on Aug 18, 2:54 AM
                                13. Sherap!! your God is a creature that eats, sleeps, drinks and goes to toilet. lol - Kumag Ka on Aug 22, 10:07 AM
                                14. Judie, our God has revealed to us the identity of his Son, but - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:05 AM
                                15. Jesus has revealed himself he's man, why believe that he's God? - Kumag Ka on Aug 25, 11:07 AM
                                16. It's optional, since there is no verse saying he is not God. - Tomas on Sep 20, 11:33 AM
                                17. Tom, he said he's a man- not God or God-man or man-God. - Kumag Ka on Sep 20, 1:18 PM
                                18. True, he did not say he is God, but he did not say he is not God either. - Tomas on Sep 20, 2:35 PM
                                19. jesus did not say many things, like he's not gay, he's not a liar, he's not uncircumcised - Observer3 on Sep 20, 10:50 PM
                            2. Tom, why don't you stop reacting and let Jude hallucinates? - KUmag Ka on Jul 14, 11:04 AM
                              1. I would not insult Judie by ignoring something he wrote. - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:34 AM
                                1. so you both are hallucinating, ha haha, your issues are going nowhere,dude - Kumag Ka on Jul 21, 6:22 AM
                                2. We might not come to an agreement on these issues, - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:09 AM
                        3. What belongs to the Father belongs also to Christ. what kind of creature can claim - |Judie_84 on Jul 14, 11:58 PM
                          1. He is a creature and that won't be changed even if God made him his heir. - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 1:31 PM
                            1. Thou, Lord, in the beginning, created the earth and the heavens are the work of thy hands. - |Judie_84 on Jul 18, 11:30 AM
                              1. In the OT, the Lord is God, Jesus was not yet Lord until God gave him that title. - Kumag Ka on Jul 22, 3:35 PM
                                1. yes, in the beginning, the Word already existed, he was with God and was God. - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 12:54 AM
                                2. before the foundation of the world, the plan was made already - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 1:51 PM
                                3. contradicts John 1:1-3. was it you who planned or your grandfather? lol. "In the beginning - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 1:18 AM
                                4. Hahaha why so fond of vague and ambiguous verses to prove ur point? - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 12:30 PM
                          2. Judie, regardless if Christ is God or not, he is a creature, - Tomas on Jul 19, 11:37 AM
                            1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 11:15 PM
                              1. Yes, he was created in the beginning, so consequently - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:55 PM
                                1. you serious? the Word was created in the beginning? hehe. shows us proofs. - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 3:51 AM
                                2. I believe the Word is Jesus. And he was created in - Tomas on Aug 2, 6:22 PM
                                3. the plan was created in the beginning and he became flesh and blood creature - Kumag Ka on Aug 22, 10:18 AM
                                4. Not even when he was still a fetus? Anyway, I gave you verses - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:20 AM
                                5. did those verses say he was literally, physically created? - Kumag Ka on Aug 25, 11:20 AM
                                6. Literally, but not physically, he was not physical until - Tomas on Sep 6, 9:31 PM
                                7. Am not interested in your "can't know" statements, Tom - Kumag Ka on Sep 8, 2:41 PM
                                8. No verse says we can know he is not God, or is God. - Tomas on Sep 20, 11:42 AM
                                9. its written jesus started his lfe when he was born out of Mary. - Observer3 on Sep 20, 10:57 PM
                            2. And a creature is a thing, Tomas. All things were created by him and through him. In your - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 22, 3:31 PM
                              1. That is not the usual meaning of thing. Things are - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:57 PM
                                1. That's you personal opinion. Language scholars differ from your impaired understanding of - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 26, 9:13 PM
                                2. Well, I am also a language scholar. But of course scholars can - Tomas on Aug 2, 6:46 PM
                                3. You are guessing a lot to support your incorrect analyses and are having unsupported - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 2, 6:52 PM
                                4. My theory is supported well by my excellent knowledge of Czech. - Tomas on Aug 2, 7:15 PM
                                5. I don't doubt your knowledge of the Czech language. If your věc is limited to what we - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 3, 2:33 AM
                                6. Well, I doubt Greek was so confusing, that one word - Tomas on Aug 3, 4:11 AM
                                7. Where does the Bible say the Son was created earlier? Come on Tomas. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 3, 5:14 AM
                                8. OK, Rev. 3:18 is best translated like in KJV, - Tomas on Aug 3, 7:56 AM
                                9. Rev. 3:18?? It doesn't say anything about any creation, or does it? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 3, 5:06 PM
                                10. Sorry, my fault, wrong verse, see Rev. 3:14. - Tomas on Aug 9, 9:38 PM
                                11. Jesus was created dead? You're still drunk, Tomas. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 17, 1:43 AM
                                12. I have always been careful not to get drunk. - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:12 AM
                                13. Then your brain is dysfunctional without any help from drugs. Jesus created dead...you - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 23, 4:05 PM
                                14. OK, if you disagree, no need to get insulting to my brain, - Tomas on Aug 23, 5:44 PM
                                15. Nobody can intelligently reason with a person who comes up with the preposterous idea that - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 24, 5:05 PM
                                16. So give me your interpretation of that verse. - Tomas on Sep 20, 11:45 AM
                                17. "he (Christ) was created dead". Another invention of Tomas. the inventor of lies. hehe - |Judie_84 on Aug 18, 6:59 AM
                                18. Well, if God gave him the possession of life, - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:17 AM
    2. stop fooling around, so where's the verse where Jesus said he is the son of God? - Kumag Ka on Jul 8, 3:19 PM
      1. they're hidden from you. don't shut up! hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jul 8, 4:47 PM
      2. you prove first that He is the Son. - |Judie_84 on Jul 8, 4:49 PM
        1. then the proofs that He is the "Son of God" will follow. Do you believe he is the Father's - |Judie_84 on Jul 8, 4:51 PM
          1. evading again? show us the claim or stop hallucinating !! - KUmag Ka on Jul 14, 11:05 AM
            1. is Jesus a son? is God the Father of Christ? if not, who then is Christ's father? - |Judie_84 on Jul 15, 12:00 AM
              1. so its final, there is no claim. Now, to answer ur query- he is not a biological son ! - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 1:29 PM
                1. I and the Father are one.... because you, a mere man, claim to be God. - |Judie_84 on Jul 18, 3:30 PM
                  1. did Jesus claim it? No. Are You claiming it in his behalf? - Kumag Ka on Jul 21, 6:11 AM
                    1. that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 11:12 PM
                      1. Jesus did not say that.and who is this John that said that? - Kumag Ka on Jul 22, 3:46 PM
                        1. you don't believe the Apostle John kumago? - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 12:44 AM
                          1. Jude missed the point- did Jesus claim he's the son of God? NO. - Observer2 on Jul 23, 1:27 PM
                          2. in your verse, the unbelievers misunderstood that Jesus claimed he's the son of God. - Observer2 on Jul 23, 1:40 PM
                            1. refute John's statements kumago. don't deviate, hehe - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 2:34 PM
                              1. Who's son is Jesus? answer kumago if you can... - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 2:35 PM
                                1. Judie, here are a couple of scriptures. - Michael on Jul 31, 10:57 PM
                                2. kumago had been shown those verses already but he just ignores them. hehe - |Judie_84 on Aug 1, 4:08 AM
                                3. Is that so? Even the devil don't ignore that and knows that Jesus is the Son of God. - Michael on Aug 1, 9:43 AM
                                4. Here's more Judie. - Michael on Aug 1, 2:48 PM
                              2. the issue is: did Jesus claim he's the son of God? No. And your time is up, dude. lol - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 1:36 PM
                                1. did he not say it? was not the gospel of john written so that the people may know that - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 1:24 AM
                                2. was the Apostle John lying when he said that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 3:54 AM
                                3. This court can cite you in contempt, dude. you're out of line or - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 5:55 AM
                                4. you are now being cited by this court for contempt! you're so utterly contemptable! hahaha - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 6:01 AM
                                5. the Father commanded all the angels to worship Jesus. even called Jesus "God" and "Lo - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 6:06 AM
                                6. He even called Jesus "God" and "Lord" - Hebrews 1:8-10 - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 6:07 AM
                                7. YOU're totally out of line! SCRAM!!!! - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 11:52 AM
                                8. you can't refute Hebrews 1:8-10? how about verses 2-3? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 2:42 PM
                                9. So you have no verse that Jesus say he's the son of God. Next issue, please. - Kumag Ka on Aug 4, 1:57 PM
                                10. judie again eats the dust heheheh - Observer2 on Aug 12, 1:29 PM
                                11. When Jesus said, God is His own Father, what does that tell you? You can eat your own dust - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 18, 4:18 AM
                                12. God is the father of all.His 'own father' merely metaphorical. - Kumag Ka on Aug 20, 4:02 PM
                                13. Blablabla, Kumag. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN! Look it up in the Greek original. It says - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 20, 4:13 PM
                                14. begotten? in other newer versions they say 'only'.besides, - Kumag Ka on Aug 22, 10:37 AM
                                15. Are you too lazy to look up the Greek original? It says "monogenes", which is proof, that - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 22, 4:32 PM
                                16. that word is very controversial.So let's consult the experts. - Kumag Ka on Aug 25, 12:04 PM
                                17. All the verses you don't understand, you call ambiguous. What an easy way out! Calling - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 25, 4:19 PM
                                18. that's why it is termed ambiguous, anyone can give his own interpretation. - Kumag Ka on Sep 19, 8:33 AM
                                19. Only "experts" who don't know Greek, like you and Wikipedia,are giving it an - Guenter (EX=INC Bible Student) on Sep 19, 4:44 PM
                                20. so here's Guenter proudly proclaiming he has the exclusive knowledge of the Greek language - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:01 PM
                                21. Observer, your comment is one of the most stupid I have read here. That explains many of - Guenter (EX=INC Bible Student) on Sep 21, 5:04 PM
                                22. hahaha the self-declared Greek language-expert is going ballistics! - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 2:37 PM
      3. Kumag Ka, look at John 10:36, he said it, he even said - Tomas on Jul 12, 9:02 AM
        1. what is the context of that verse? Did Jesus say it categorically? or in parables? - Kumag Ka on Jul 12, 2:16 PM
          1. There is nothing in the context saying it is a parable. - Tomas on Jul 12, 3:09 PM
            1. would you end your claim with a question mark, Tom? - KUmag Ka on Jul 14, 12:35 PM
              1. why not? hehe - |Judie_84 on Jul 18, 3:31 PM
              2. Kumag Ka, if I say for example: - Tomas on Jul 19, 10:40 AM
                1. that is not a claim, you are merely asking a question which can - Kumag Ka on Jul 21, 6:19 AM
                  1. that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God - |Judie_84 on Jul 21, 11:09 PM
                    1. Damned fool, who said that??? - Kumag Ka on Jul 22, 3:48 PM
                      1. hahaha. i don't know. i should overheard a guy named John saying that. LOL - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 12:42 AM
                        1. is that truth new to you kumago? - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 12:43 AM
                          1. did Jesus said it too? No! so shut up !!! lol - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 1:54 PM
                            1. don't you believe the apostle John kumago? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 6:03 AM
                              1. John is not the issue here but Jesus.Did he claim it? hahaha ,, no answer. - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 12:46 PM
                                1. did he tell the apostles he is not the Son of God? did he disclaim it? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 2:45 PM
                                2. Where is the verse he told them he's the son of God? none? don't give me HEARSAYS ! - Kumag Ka on Aug 4, 2:17 PM
                                3. the Father calling Jesus his beloved Son... - |Judie_84 on Aug 4, 3:22 PM
                                4. Read John 20:17 Jesus' Father is also my Father, but not your Father. - Kumag Ka on Aug 7, 9:49 AM
                      2. don't you believe the Apostle John was inspired by God to write it? hehe - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 12:45 AM
                        1. did jesus claim it or john? re-read the banner question, dude. - Observer2 on Jul 23, 1:45 PM
                          1. was John not inspired by God to write that Jesus is the Son of God? - |Judie_84 on Jul 23, 2:43 PM
                            1. Stick to the issue,dumb girl, did Jesus claim it? you have no verse? - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 1:46 PM
                              1. so you don't believe the apostle John when he said that Jesus is the Messiah, - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 9:53 AM
                                1. Believing John isn't the issue, now did Jesus claim it or not? - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 11:48 AM
                                2. where in the Bible did Jesus disclaim his being the Son of God? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 2:46 PM
                                3. did Jesus claim he is the son of the Father? No? Then, shutup, will ya - Kumag Ka on Aug 9, 9:05 AM
                  2. Kumag Ka, it is a claim inside a question. - Tomas on Jul 26, 6:59 PM
                    1. He is the son, but not literally, as we are all sons of God. - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 2:25 PM
                      1. you mean Jesus cannot be God because he is the Son of God? - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 8:32 AM
                        1. Jesus is a created being, he couldn't be God. God is not created! - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 11:54 AM
                          1. when was Jesus created? cite the verse. he was not made, rather, he became man. - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 2:48 PM
                            1. he was the Word who was with God in the beginning, and was God, before he became man. - |Judie_84 on Aug 2, 2:49 PM
                            2. when was jesus born? that day he was created. - Kumag Ka on Aug 10, 4:15 PM
                              1. So when Mary was pregnant, Jesus did not exist yet? - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:24 AM
                                1. he existed as a mere plan, and that materialized upon his birth. - Kumag Ka on Aug 25, 11:13 AM
                                2. Wow, the fetus was a plan, so I guess you think Mary - Tomas on Sep 6, 9:50 PM
                                3. Accdg to the boy named kumago, John 1:1 really reads "in the beginning was the Word, and - |Judie_84 on Sep 9, 12:48 AM
                                4. He thinks the verse reads "... and the Word was divine". - Tomas on Sep 20, 11:49 AM
                                5. ambiguous. that's where the devil butts in. he creates controversies - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:07 PM
                    2. Tomas, he is not blind. He sees it clearly and just flatly rejects the truth of it. - Michael on Aug 1, 2:45 PM
                    3. Baloney, Tom, if you want to make a statement, would you end it with a question mark or an - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 3:17 PM
                      1. Sure, if I put my statement within a question, then - Tomas on Aug 2, 6:53 PM
                        1. It is not a categorical statement, but a questionable statement. - Kumag Ka on Aug 9, 9:09 AM
                          1. It is a categorical statement of a fact, inserted within - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:25 AM
                            1. Tomas is making himself a fool out of the issue. lol. - Kumag Ka on Sep 19, 8:23 AM
                              1. You calling someone a fool? According to what Jesus said in Mt. 5:22, - Tomas on Sep 20, 11:58 AM
                                1. hahha tom is unaware of prov26.5 - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:17 PM
                    4. Baloney, Tom, if you want to make a statement, would you end it with a question mark or an - Kumag Ka on Aug 1, 3:17 PM
                      1. For once, I have to agree with Tomas. Let me try and see if you have at least a tiny bit - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 1, 5:15 PM
                        1. So that confirms you're a Quirk who wanted to claim who he is with a Q.M. Lol - Kumag Ka on Aug 2, 6:22 AM
                          1. OK, baby Kumag. You don't even have a tiny bit of intelligence. May God help you! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 2, 5:09 PM
                            1. He might be intelligent, but so stubborn, - Tomas on Aug 2, 7:04 PM
                              1. I'm stubborn in claiming to understand that the Bible is telling us CLEARLY that the Son - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 3, 2:41 AM
                                1. The issue of 'things' has nothing to do with whether Jesus is God. - Tomas on Aug 3, 4:20 AM
                                2. So, ALL things is a lie because it is not ALL things. Good luck on Judgment Day, Tomas. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 3, 5:10 AM
                                3. It is not a lie, it is all things, just logically not Christ himself. - Tomas on Aug 3, 7:59 AM
                                4. Godhead? Are you now believing in the Trinity? If God "created" the second person of the - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Aug 3, 4:44 PM
                                5. the Trinity is a possibility. We can't really know - Tomas on Aug 9, 9:43 PM
                                6. Stop speculating,Tom!! keep it to yourself -- dont preach your interpolations. - Kumag Ka on Aug 13, 2:23 AM
                                7. You give your speculation as a doctrine, that God is just one - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:27 AM
                                8. Mark 12:29,32- Jesus said God is one, ergo not 2 or 3. - Kumag Ka on Aug 25, 12:28 PM
                                9. That is from Old Testament, about Yahweh, who is the Father. - Tomas on Sep 6, 9:56 PM
                                10. Again, tell us what the bible says, not what you speculates. - Kumag Ka on Sep 19, 8:27 AM
                                11. It is quoted from Deut. 6:4, which - Tomas on Sep 20, 12:09 PM
                                12. Again like the devil Tom dwells on unwritten words. lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:34 PM
                                13. Again like the devil Tom dwells on unwritten words. lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:34 PM
    3. by this weird reasoning of observer2, no one could really qualify as a son of God since - |Judie_84 on Aug 8, 11:15 PM
      1. None of the apostles make any direct claim that he is a son of God either. - |Judie_84 on Aug 8, 11:18 PM
        1. the phrase 'son of god' is only metaphorical not literal. - Observer2 on Aug 12, 1:43 PM
          1. hehehe, how did you know that kumago? how do you know it's metaphorical or when it's real - |Judie_84 on Aug 18, 3:03 AM
            1. God never said that he has biological sons. The sons of God are those nearest, closest to - Kumag Ka on Aug 20, 4:07 PM
              1. No human is the father of Jesus. It was a virgin birth. - Tomas on Aug 23, 8:33 AM
              2. "This is my beloved Son of whom i am well-pleased." - |Judie_84 on Sep 9, 12:54 AM
                1. and of the son, he (the Father) said: "Your throne, o God, is forever and ever." - |Judie_84 on Sep 9, 1:02 AM
                  1. A better translation is "God is your throne forever and ever". - Tomas on Sep 20, 12:13 PM
                    1. and the best one is the one which says, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever..." - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 10:53 AM
                      1. like the devil that he is, jude loves to quote controversial, ambiguous verses. - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:27 PM
    4. For Tomas: HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 20, 9:24 AM
      1. How is that prophecies? - Tomas on Sep 20, 12:11 PM
        1. they are Biblical Prophecies, the Pricks made of INC manalista ministers & Head Deacons - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 20, 11:17 PM
    5. you can email ROMMEL VILLANUEVA SAN PEDRO on your questions - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 3:37 PM
     
  13. "Jesus Christ is the SAME yesterday, today and forever" (Heb. 13:8). View Thread - INCquisitor on Sep 21, 1:57 PM
    1. This same Christ will be worshiped as King and Lord Almighty in the Millennium. That's - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 2:15 PM
      1. That's TOMORROW TOO! "They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced" - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 2:31 PM
        1. Jesus is not the one talking in Zech. 12:10. - INCquisitor on Sep 21, 11:03 PM
          1. If it was not the Lord Jesus, who was it? God the Father? Who was pierced on whose side? - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 12:10 AM
          2. you really are in major denial, Inquisitor. Stop fooling around, Incquisitor - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 12:57 AM
            1. God was pierced? You don't know one thing about God! - INCquisitor on Sep 22, 2:22 AM
              1. obviously, you don't know how to read English. why don't you go back to the Philippines - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 2:40 AM
              2. Incquisitor, you are in New York. did you bond with your New Yorker buddy? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 2:45 AM
              3. being spirit and having no flesh and bones, can God be seen? does God eat? - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 3:08 AM
              4. incquisitor, you can't even write english. you provided wrong verse - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 3:27 AM
                1. God is spirit is different to God is the Holy Spirit. - emmanuel on Sep 22, 4:12 AM
                  1. oh God. now INC Emmanuel says a spirit sends a Holy Spirit - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 5:35 AM
                    1. God is spirit and the Holy Spirit is spirit. - emmanuel on Sep 22, 7:40 AM
                      1. INC Emmanuel, do you know INC USMO minister ROMMEL VILLANUEVA SAN PEDRO? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 11:55 AM
          3. Is Jesus not the one who will reign as "King and Lord Almighty" in the coming Millennium? - |Judie_84 on Sep 22, 1:53 AM
            1. you can email Rommel San Pedro on your questions - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 22, 3:36 PM
     
  14. Where is the verse that says Jesus is both God and Man at the same time? View Thread - Kumag Ka on Aug 7, 11:20 AM
    1. where's the verse that says he can't be like that? - |Judie_84 on Sep 15, 12:09 PM
      1. usual gimmick whenever he has nothing to say. lol - Observer3 on Sep 16, 11:38 PM
        1. answer the question. no gimmicks please. - |Judie_84 on Sep 17, 12:00 AM
          1. the moron's usual escape act... idiot, lol - Kumag Ka on Sep 18, 3:33 PM
      2. what law prohibits him from being so? "No one can be God and man at the same time." - |Judie_84 on Sep 20, 9:41 AM
        1. It might well be prohibited by these difficult verses: - Tomas on Sep 20, 10:39 AM
          1. am sure Judie won't understand those verses, tom. poor thing. - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:22 PM
          2. so Tomas, you now believe Jesus is not God, just like your buddy kumago a.k.a observa2? - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:47 AM
    2. hahaha jude the comedian has no answer ?!!! lol - Observer3 on Sep 17, 10:39 PM
      1. John 1:1,14,18 the Word was God and he became flesh. he is himself God and is in closest - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:59 AM
    3. Kumag Honey Babe, HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 20, 9:28 AM
    4. hahaha whre's the verse dude? - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:19 PM
      1. "If the Messiah is David's Lord, how is he his son?" - your response kumago. - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 1:11 AM
        1. Here's to answer your question,Jude-read and digest the verses well. - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:01 PM
    5. Kumag Honey Babe, HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 21, 5:37 AM
    6. so,where's the verse? - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:28 PM
     
  15. If God why can't Jesus forgive all by himself without the Father? View Thread - Kumag Ka on Sep 19, 8:37 AM
    1. Good question. You can ask him someday when he judges you. - jodlas on Sep 19, 2:05 PM
    2. Kumag Honey Babe, HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Generalfeldmarschall Desert Fox Erwin Rommel on Sep 20, 9:29 AM
      1. hahaha ... well Jesus has said he can't do anything without the Father. - Observer3 on Sep 20, 11:28 PM
        1. he also said, "I and the Father are one." and the Father called him "God" and &q - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:30 AM
        2. And can you do anything without your head? Not the one down there bud. - jodlas on Sep 21, 2:41 AM
    3. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:31 AM
      1. "... and the Word was God." standard translation - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:32 AM
        1. INC and kumago/observa's translation: "... and the Word was a plan." - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:35 AM
          1. does a plan fit the following descriptions? creator v. 3, has life v. 4, the one and - |Judie_84 on Sep 21, 12:45 AM
    4. Kumag Honey Babe, HERE'S IGLESIA NI CRISTO PROPHECIES - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Sep 21, 5:37 AM
    5. all these iso-certified idiots are deviating from the issue.why? - Kumag Ka on Sep 22, 3:24 PM
     
 
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