REFUTED- Christ created all thingsJune 16 2006 at 8:11 PM
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Christ is neither the Creator in John 1:3 nor the Co-Creator in Gen. 1:26
The proponents of the Christ-is-God doctrine allege that Christ created all things. They cite John 1:3 which states:
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (NKJV)
The verse does not say that Christ created all things. What is written is All things were made through Him. However, this doesnt imply that He is the Almighty Creator since this would contradict what is written in Isaiah 44:24 that the Father alone is the Creator. Apostle Paul explains why all things were made through Christ:
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Col. 1:16, Ibid.)
All things were created by God for Christ. As to why all things were created for Him, Apostle Paul explains:
God did what he had purposed, and made known to us the secret plan he had already decided to compete by means of Christ. This plan, which God will complete when the time is right, is to bring al creation together, everything in heaven and on earth, with Christ as head. (Eph. 1:9-10, TEV)
God, who will bring all creation together, is different from Christ to whom all things will be brought together. Christ cannot be the Creator for He is also one of those whom God createdHe is the first-born Son, superior to al created things. (Col. 1:15, Ibid.) Thus, the term created through Him only means that all creation, especially man, would necessitate a Mediator and Saviorthe Lord Christ (I Tim. 2:5; Acts 5:31). So, when God aid the plan for salvation, He created the Lord Jesus Christ for, without Him as a Savior, God wouldnt have made anything that was made. Thus, the true Creator is God:
For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him. (Col. 1:16, TEV)
Hence, those who say that Christ is the Creator of a things have misunderstood the verse of the Bible.
Ref. Gods Message Magazine, July 2000, p. 13
IS CHRIST CO-CREATOR?
Deity believer asks:
"If God is the Creator, who was God referring to in the pronouns us, our, ourselves in the verse, Let us make people in our image, to be like ourselves
? (Gen. 1:26)
Genesis 1:26 states:
Then God said, Let Us make a man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. (NKJV)
It is admitted that Gen 1:26 implies plurality. But plurality simply means more than one. Proponents of Trinity doctrine limit the number to three beings in this verse and they presumably involve the Son and the Holy Spirit.
We should notice that nowhere in the verse does it state that the pronouns us and our refer to the Word or the Holy Ghost. Indeed, the Bible clearly stated that God alone created all things (Gen. 1:27; Is. 44:24; 37:16).
Then, whom was the Lord referring to with the pronouns us and our? The Father was referring to those who were already in existence thenthe Cherubs or the angels (Job 38:4-7; Gen. 3:22, 24).
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