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Re: Old and New Testament - 11

April 4 2017 at 1:44 AM
almario  (Login almario38)


Response to Re: Old and New Testament - 11

 
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Old and New Testament - 16

Revelation of the One True God

Who is the one true God that we have to “diligently seek” and give meaning to the
following?

John 8:19 “Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me,
nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”

Heb. 9:15 ‘And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for
the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might
receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be
the death of the testator.

This is what is written and, if we humble ourselves like “babes or infants,” God will introduce
Himself:

Matt. 11:25 “At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.”

Isa.28:9 [ KJV and Bishops Bible only ] “Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand
doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.”

1. There is only one God :

1 Cor. 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things…”

2. God made a covenant or testament of salvation, a promise of everlasting life, with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and their
seeds (many verses).

Gen. 17:1 “And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am
the Almighty God ; walk before me, and be thou perfect.”

Gen. 17:7 “And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for
an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.”

These are the spiritual seeds of Abraham as God is speaking in parable. Many of the physical seeds of Abraham are not
even included in the following:

Gal. 3:28 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female:
for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the
promise.”

3. The covenant or testament can only be fulfilled by the death of the maker. The maker is the Father God.

Heb. 9:16 “For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.”

4. The Father God cannot fulfill His testament without manifesting Himself in the flesh. Thus,

1 Tim. 3:16 [ KJV and Bishops Bible only ] “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifest in the flesh…”

Many verses testify to the truth that the “flesh” refers to JESUS CHRIST both in the Old and New Testament books.

Among them are the following :

Isa. 7:14 “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son,
and shall call his name Immanuel.”

Matt. 1:23 “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel ,
which being interpreted is, God with us .”

Phil. 2:6 “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation,
and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man,
he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”

 
    
Responses

  1.   Did the Father die? The Father was immortal, Is. 57:15, so he can't die. - Tomas on Apr 5, 2017, 12:54 PM
    1. Re: Did the Father die? The Father was immortal, Is. 57:15, so he can't die. - almario on Apr 5, 2017, 5:08 PM
      1. Deut. 33:27 says "The eternal God is thy refuge". Ps. 90:2 says "From everlasting - Tomas on Apr 6, 2017, 3:19 AM
        1. Re: Deut. 33:27 says "The eternal God is thy refuge". Ps. 90:2 says "From everlastin - almario on Apr 7, 2017, 4:45 PM
          1. Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - Tomas on Apr 8, 2017, 8:30 AM
            1. Re: Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - almario on Apr 8, 2017, 3:59 PM
              1. KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - Tomas on Apr 9, 2017, 5:13 AM
                1. Re: KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - almario on Apr 9, 2017, 2:50 PM
                  1. Antiquity is veracity? So do you consider ancient Latin translations to be inspired? - Tomas on Apr 10, 2017, 5:14 AM
                    1. Re: Antiquity is veracity? So do you consider ancient Latin translations to be inspired? - almario on Apr 10, 2017, 4:55 PM
                      1. The KJV is just not very antique, it is only several centuries old. - Tomas on Apr 12, 2017, 10:06 AM
                        1. Re: The KJV is just not very antique, it is only several centuries old. - almario on Apr 14, 2017, 6:03 PM
                          1. For example the KJV has the pagan word Easter, in Acts 12:4, a mistranslation - Tomas on Apr 15, 2017, 3:03 PM
                            1. Re: For example the KJV has the pagan word Easter, in Acts 12:4, a mistranslation - almario on Apr 15, 2017, 3:37 PM
                              1. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, James 1:5. - Tomas on Apr 15, 2017, 4:41 PM
                                1. Re: If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, James 1:5. - almario on Apr 15, 2017, 5:50 PM
                                2. You think that whoever made that statement in the Library of Congress was inspired? - Tomas on Apr 16, 2017, 10:22 AM
                                3. Re: You think that whoever made that statement in the Library of Congress was inspired? - almario on Apr 16, 2017, 8:17 PM
                                4. It is that academe, scholastic, in depth scholar at the Library of Congress, who - Tomas on Apr 17, 2017, 4:37 AM
                                5. Re: It is that academe, scholastic, in depth scholar at the Library of Congress, who - almario on Apr 17, 2017, 2:55 PM
                                6. Just because someone at the Library of Congress had a theory about how the KJV came about, - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 9:23 AM
                                7. Re: Just because someone at the Library of Congress had a theory about how the KJV came about, - almario on Apr 19, 2017, 5:53 PM
                                8. It was the KJV that replaced Passover with the pagan name Easter in Acts. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 7:01 PM
                                9. Re: It was the KJV that replaced Passover with the pagan name Easter in Acts. - almario on Apr 19, 2017, 11:51 PM
                                10. Passover is of course usually translated well in KJV, but mistranslated in Acts 12:4. - Tomas on Apr 20, 2017, 3:08 AM
                                11. Re: Passover is of course usually translated well in KJV, but mistranslated in Acts 12:4. - almario on Apr 20, 2017, 6:05 AM
                                12. Of course Christ's resurrection is emphasized in the Bible, but Passover was - Tomas on Apr 21, 2017, 8:43 AM
                                13. Re: Of course Christ's resurrection is emphasized in the Bible, but Passover was - almario on Apr 21, 2017, 3:08 PM
                                14. With Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform Jews, Passover begins only on the 15th - Tomas on Apr 22, 2017, 10:01 PM
                2. Re: KJV has an unjustified addition in 1 John 3:16. - inc slayer on Jul 19, 2017, 4:08 PM
                  1. I have two KJV Bibles, they both put 'of God' in italics in 1 John 3:16. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:24 PM
                    1. Re: I have two KJV Bibles, they both put 'of God' in italics in 1 John 3:16. - inc slayer on Jul 20, 2017, 6:38 PM
                      1. It is faulty in that verse, because it forgot to put 'of God' in italics. - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:15 AM
            2. Re: Yes, 1 Tim. 1:17 proves that God is eternal, immortal. So God could not die. - inc slayer on Jul 19, 2017, 4:06 PM
              1. Of course God dwelt in Jesus Christ, when he died. But God did not die. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:29 PM
                1. Re: Of course God dwelt in Jesus Christ, when he died. But God did not die. - inc slayer on Jul 20, 2017, 6:38 PM
                  1. Some are saying God died, for example Catholics. In previous centuries many were - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:43 AM
     
  2.   Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 9, 2017, 11:25 PM
    1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 14, 2017, 6:23 PM
      1. Re: Old and New Testament - 11 - almario on Apr 23, 2017, 12:35 AM
        1. There have indeed been people who have claimed "I am Christ". - Tomas on Apr 23, 2017, 1:48 AM
        2. Old and New Testament - 20 - almario on Apr 23, 2017, 4:00 PM
          1. Of course we should all reject Satan, but as far as the nature of Christ, he told us - Tomas on Apr 24, 2017, 4:15 AM
          2. Re: Old and New Testament - 20 - almario on May 4, 2017, 7:05 PM
            1. Old and New Testament - 22 - almario on Jun 20, 2017, 11:23 PM
              1. Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:18 AM
                1. Re: Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 6:33 PM
                  1. Christianity continued to survive the medieval era in trinitarian churches. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:34 PM
              2. Re: Old and New Testament - 23 - almario on Jun 22, 2017, 1:44 AM
                1. Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:45 AM
                  1. Re: Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 3:47 PM
                    1. Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? God was dwelling in Christ. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:02 PM
                2. Old and New Testament - 24 - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:39 PM
                  1. What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:10 PM
                    1. Re: What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
                      1. Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
                        1. Re: Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
                          1. That is more correct, although Dynamic Monarchianism should not be confused with Arianism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 3:54 AM
                  2. Old and New Testament - 25 - almario on Jun 26, 2017, 2:03 PM
                    1. Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 3, 2017, 7:09 PM
                      1. Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - Tomas on Jul 5, 2017, 1:19 PM
                        1. Re: Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - almario on Jul 6, 2017, 3:34 PM
                          1. 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 7:18 AM
                            1. Re: 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - almario on Jul 7, 2017, 6:25 PM
                              1. You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - Tomas on Jul 8, 2017, 2:11 PM
                                1. Re: You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - almario on Jul 8, 2017, 6:05 PM
                                2. The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - Tomas on Jul 10, 2017, 2:46 AM
                                3. Re: The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - almario on Jul 10, 2017, 8:11 PM
                                4. I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 6:05 PM
                                5. Re: I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - almario on Jul 12, 2017, 8:36 PM
                                6. The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 10:34 PM
                                7. Re: The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:10 AM
                                8. I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - Tomas on Jul 13, 2017, 3:58 AM
                                9. Re: I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:45 PM
                                10. We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - Tomas on Jul 14, 2017, 5:20 AM
                                11. Re: We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 9:43 PM
                                12. I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:09 PM
                                13. Re: I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - almario on Jul 16, 2017, 4:48 PM
                                14. Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - Tomas on Jul 17, 2017, 3:51 AM
                                15. Re: Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - almario on Jul 17, 2017, 10:11 PM
                                16. It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:56 PM
                                17. Re: It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 11:47 PM
                                18. So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:51 AM
                                19. Re: So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 3:27 PM
                                20. Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:49 AM
                                21. Re: Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:09 PM
                                22. Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 2:00 PM
                                23. Re: Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 4:10 PM
                                24. You misunderstand that verse, Eccl. 12:7. - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 3:57 AM
                      2. Re: Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:47 AM
                        1. Old and New Testament - w/correction - 27 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:52 AM
                          1. Old and New Testament - 28 - almario on Jul 23, 2017, 3:40 PM
                            1. The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:05 AM
                              1. Re: The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 2:49 PM
                                1. So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:16 PM
                                2. Re: So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - almario on Jul 26, 2017, 7:59 PM
                                3. Yes, some Christians believe the devil and his fallen angels will suffer forever - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:09 AM
                            2. Old and New Testament - 29 - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 8:27 PM
                              1. Old and New Testament - 30 - almario on Jul 29, 2017, 4:06 PM
                                1. Old and New Testament - 31 - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 6:50 PM
                                2. Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 6:17 AM
                                3. Re: Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - almario on Aug 3, 2017, 9:04 PM
                                4. Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:16 AM
                                5. Re: Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 7:07 PM
                                6. You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:35 PM
                                7. Re: You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 9:23 PM
                                8. OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 2:38 AM
                                9. Re: OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 6:11 PM
                                10. OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:10 PM
                                11. Re: OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - almario on Aug 9, 2017, 9:15 PM
                                12. Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - Tomas on Aug 10, 2017, 7:24 AM
                                13. Re: Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 1:56 AM
                                14. 2 Cor. 3:6 can't be used to spiritualize away the resurrection of Christ, it is a warning - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:52 AM
     
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