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Old and New Testament - 22

June 20 2017 at 11:23 PM
almario  (Login almario38)


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Who among the people who believe in the Holy Bible as inspired word of God
do not confess Jesus Christ is come in the flesh? But different perceptions
of Jesus is being preached as prophesied in:

2 Cor. 11:4 “For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not
preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another
gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

Some people say, “Jesus is only a man and not God,” and the derivative
belief that “Jesus is only a mighty God for there is a greater or Almighty God.”
(Arian doctrine)

Others say, “Jesus is also the Father and the Holy Spirit,” and the
derivative belief that “Jesus is the Father and the Holy Spirit is only a force
of God,” and no distinction is made of the “voice” of the Lamb from the “voice”
of the Dragon (Rev. 13:11). (Oneness or Jesus only doctrine)

Many say, “Jesus is both God and man, and the 2nd person of the
Holy Trinity.” (Trinity doctrine)

The 2nd test for trying the spirits was applied to Nicodemus. Nicodemus failed
the test. It is not enough that recognition of Jesus is similar to that of the
Apostles. The true Christ must be distinguished from the false Christ by His
“voice,” for it is written:

John 10:4 “ And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5 And a stranger will they not
follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

John 10:6 “This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what
things they were which he spake unto them.”

As expounded earlier, the false Christ or Satan also called the dragon speaks the
“literal” or the language of man while that of the Lamb speaks the “spiritual
language.” When Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights, Satan could only perceive
earthly things. He could not comprehend “spiritual things.” Thus:

Matt. 4:3 “And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son
of God, command that these stones be made bread."

The false Christ or Satan saw only the physical hunger our Lord contrary to what
He wanted to convey in His fasting. The rebuke:

Matt. 4:4 “But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by
bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”

This indicates the two-fold life of a true believer: PHYSICAL LIFE and SPIRITUAL LIFE.
Christ’s fasting points to hunger for the word for SPIRITUAL LIFE. Ever since, this
has been the message of our Lord – to hunger for His words:

Jer. 15:16 “Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me
the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name…”

Psa. 119:103 “How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to
my mouth!”

Prov. 24:13 “My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb,
which is sweet to thy taste: 14So shall the knowledge of wisdom be unto thy soul: when
thou hast found it, then there shall be a reward, and thy expectation shall not be
cut off.”

_The spiritual message for Jesus’ fasting is further confirmed in the following_ :

Amos 8:11 “Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine
in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words
of the LORD: 12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even
to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall
not find it.”

 
    
Responses

  1.   Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 12:18 AM
    1. Re: Certainly believing in Trinity or Oneness or Arianism does not mean preaching another - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 6:33 PM
      1. Christianity continued to survive the medieval era in trinitarian churches. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:34 PM
     
  2.   Re: Old and New Testament - 23 - almario on Jun 22, 2017, 1:44 AM
    1. Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:45 AM
      1. Re: Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 3:47 PM
        1. Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? God was dwelling in Christ. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:02 PM
    2. Old and New Testament - 24 - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:39 PM
      1. What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:10 PM
        1. Re: What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
          1. Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
            1. Re: Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
              1. That is more correct, although Dynamic Monarchianism should not be confused with Arianism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 3:54 AM
      2. Old and New Testament - 25 - almario on Jun 26, 2017, 2:03 PM
        1. Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 3, 2017, 7:09 PM
          1. Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - Tomas on Jul 5, 2017, 1:19 PM
            1. Re: Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - almario on Jul 6, 2017, 3:34 PM
              1. 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 7:18 AM
                1. Re: 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - almario on Jul 7, 2017, 6:25 PM
                  1. You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - Tomas on Jul 8, 2017, 2:11 PM
                    1. Re: You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - almario on Jul 8, 2017, 6:05 PM
                      1. The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - Tomas on Jul 10, 2017, 2:46 AM
                        1. Re: The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - almario on Jul 10, 2017, 8:11 PM
                          1. I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 6:05 PM
                            1. Re: I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - almario on Jul 12, 2017, 8:36 PM
                              1. The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 10:34 PM
                                1. Re: The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:10 AM
                                2. I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - Tomas on Jul 13, 2017, 3:58 AM
                                3. Re: I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:45 PM
                                4. We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - Tomas on Jul 14, 2017, 5:20 AM
                                5. Re: We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 9:43 PM
                                6. I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:09 PM
                                7. Re: I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - almario on Jul 16, 2017, 4:48 PM
                                8. Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - Tomas on Jul 17, 2017, 3:51 AM
                                9. Re: Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - almario on Jul 17, 2017, 10:11 PM
                                10. It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:56 PM
                                11. Re: It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 11:47 PM
                                12. So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:51 AM
                                13. Re: So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 3:27 PM
                                14. Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:49 AM
                                15. Re: Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:09 PM
                                16. Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 2:00 PM
                                17. Re: Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 4:10 PM
                                18. You misunderstand that verse, Eccl. 12:7. - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 3:57 AM
          2. Re: Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:47 AM
            1. Old and New Testament - w/correction - 27 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:52 AM
              1. Old and New Testament - 28 - almario on Jul 23, 2017, 3:40 PM
                1. The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:05 AM
                  1. Re: The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 2:49 PM
                    1. So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:16 PM
                      1. Re: So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - almario on Jul 26, 2017, 7:59 PM
                        1. Yes, some Christians believe the devil and his fallen angels will suffer forever - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:09 AM
                2. Old and New Testament - 29 - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 8:27 PM
                  1. Old and New Testament - 30 - almario on Jul 29, 2017, 4:06 PM
                    1. Old and New Testament - 31 - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 6:50 PM
                      1. Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 6:17 AM
                        1. Re: Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - almario on Aug 3, 2017, 9:04 PM
                          1. Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:16 AM
                            1. Re: Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 7:07 PM
                              1. You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:35 PM
                                1. Re: You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 9:23 PM
                                2. OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 2:38 AM
                                3. Re: OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 6:11 PM
                                4. OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:10 PM
                                5. Re: OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - almario on Aug 9, 2017, 9:15 PM
                                6. Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - Tomas on Aug 10, 2017, 7:24 AM
                                7. Re: Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 1:56 AM
                                8. 2 Cor. 3:6 can't be used to spiritualize away the resurrection of Christ, it is a warning - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:52 AM
     
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