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Re: Old and New Testament - 23

June 22 2017 at 1:44 AM
almario  (Login almario38)


Response to Old and New Testament - 22

 
With the Natural Man’s non-perception of “spiritual things,” it is now understandable why Jesus
called His listeners “sons of god of this world.”

2 Cor. 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe
not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine
unto them.”

1 Cor. 2:14 “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually
[not of the senses, not intellectually] discerned.”

John 8:44 “ Ye are of your father the devil, and…abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a
liar, and the father of it.”

That is why when Jesus said, “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up
again,” those who heard Him and did not wait for the explanation of His words were the
people who accused Him, leading to His death on the cross.

Matt. 26:61 “And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God
, and to build it in three days. 62And the high priest arose, and said unto him,
Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?”

Many people are deceived into believing that preachers of the word are servants of God.
Christ exposed Nicodemus, a great preacher of the word, to be only a Natural Man
(1 Cor. 2:14 ) when he could not understand “spiritual things.”

John 3:3 “Jesus… said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man
be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God . 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can
a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb,
and be born? 9Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10Jesus
answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel , and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know…and ye receive not our
witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe,
if I tell you of heavenly things?”

It was after Nicodemus truly humbled himself that he became a Spiritual Man . He was seen
with Joseph of Arimathea taking the body of Jesus after His death on the cross (John 19:38
-40). This is the Spiritual Man in contrast with the Natural Man:

1 Cor. 2:15 “But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged
of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?
But we have the mind of Christ.”

 
    
Responses

  1.   Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - Tomas on Jun 22, 2017, 5:45 AM
    1. Re: Yes, when we read the Bible, we receive spiritual discernment, since these are the word - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 3:47 PM
      1. Where was God when he manifested in the flesh? God was dwelling in Christ. - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:02 PM
     
  2.   Old and New Testament - 24 - almario on Jun 23, 2017, 8:39 PM
    1. What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - Tomas on Jun 24, 2017, 1:10 PM
      1. Re: What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the - almario on Jun 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
        1. Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
          1. Re: Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
            1. That is more correct, although Dynamic Monarchianism should not be confused with Arianism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 3:54 AM
    2. Old and New Testament - 25 - almario on Jun 26, 2017, 2:03 PM
      1. Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 3, 2017, 7:09 PM
        1. Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - Tomas on Jul 5, 2017, 1:19 PM
          1. Re: Yes, all shall know God, from the least to the greatest (Heb. 8:11). That will be - almario on Jul 6, 2017, 3:34 PM
            1. 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - Tomas on Jul 7, 2017, 7:18 AM
              1. Re: 2 Cor. 6:2 has been mistranslated in KJV and some other Bibles, they added - almario on Jul 7, 2017, 6:25 PM
                1. You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - Tomas on Jul 8, 2017, 2:11 PM
                  1. Re: You should rely on the Greek text of the New Testament, and not on faulty translations - almario on Jul 8, 2017, 6:05 PM
                    1. The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - Tomas on Jul 10, 2017, 2:46 AM
                      1. Re: The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts. - almario on Jul 10, 2017, 8:11 PM
                        1. I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 6:05 PM
                          1. Re: I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - almario on Jul 12, 2017, 8:36 PM
                            1. The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 10:34 PM
                              1. Re: The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:10 AM
                                1. I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - Tomas on Jul 13, 2017, 3:58 AM
                                2. Re: I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:45 PM
                                3. We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - Tomas on Jul 14, 2017, 5:20 AM
                                4. Re: We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 9:43 PM
                                5. I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:09 PM
                                6. Re: I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - almario on Jul 16, 2017, 4:48 PM
                                7. Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - Tomas on Jul 17, 2017, 3:51 AM
                                8. Re: Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - almario on Jul 17, 2017, 10:11 PM
                                9. It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:56 PM
                                10. Re: It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 11:47 PM
                                11. So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:51 AM
                                12. Re: So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 3:27 PM
                                13. Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:49 AM
                                14. Re: Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:09 PM
                                15. Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 2:00 PM
                                16. Re: Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 4:10 PM
                                17. You misunderstand that verse, Eccl. 12:7. - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 3:57 AM
        2. Re: Old and New Testament - 26 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:47 AM
          1. Old and New Testament - w/correction - 27 - almario on Jul 15, 2017, 3:52 AM
            1. Old and New Testament - 28 - almario on Jul 23, 2017, 3:40 PM
              1. The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 4:05 AM
                1. Re: The devil is a necessary evil now, I agree, but not always, he will be destroyed - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 2:49 PM
                  1. So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 5:16 PM
                    1. Re: So do you agree the devil will be destroyed, will not exist any more? - almario on Jul 26, 2017, 7:59 PM
                      1. Yes, some Christians believe the devil and his fallen angels will suffer forever - Tomas on Jul 27, 2017, 5:09 AM
              2. Old and New Testament - 29 - almario on Jul 24, 2017, 8:27 PM
                1. Old and New Testament - 30 - almario on Jul 29, 2017, 4:06 PM
                  1. Old and New Testament - 31 - almario on Jul 31, 2017, 6:50 PM
                    1. Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - Tomas on Aug 3, 2017, 6:17 AM
                      1. Re: Why do you put miracles of Jesus in quotes? Don't you believe those were - almario on Aug 3, 2017, 9:04 PM
                        1. Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - Tomas on Aug 4, 2017, 6:16 AM
                          1. Re: Don't you believe that Christ has the power to do miracles, such as literally raise - almario on Aug 4, 2017, 7:07 PM
                            1. You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - Tomas on Aug 5, 2017, 3:35 PM
                              1. Re: You did not answer me clearly, if you believe Jesus literally raised some dead people. - almario on Aug 5, 2017, 9:23 PM
                                1. OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - Tomas on Aug 7, 2017, 2:38 AM
                                2. Re: OK, you admit God changed a rod into a serpent. Do you admit also that Jesus - almario on Aug 7, 2017, 6:11 PM
                                3. OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - Tomas on Aug 9, 2017, 6:10 PM
                                4. Re: OK, you don't have to believe that. But do you believe that Jesus was literally raised - almario on Aug 9, 2017, 9:15 PM
                                5. Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - Tomas on Aug 10, 2017, 7:24 AM
                                6. Re: Sorry, if you don't believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you are not - almario on Aug 11, 2017, 1:56 AM
                                7. 2 Cor. 3:6 can't be used to spiritualize away the resurrection of Christ, it is a warning - Tomas on Aug 11, 2017, 5:52 AM
     
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