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Re: What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the

June 24 2017 at 10:07 PM
almario  (Login almario38)


Response to What Oneness preacher makes no distinction of the voice of the Lamb from the voice of the

 
Re posted for clarification that isolates the oneness
from the jesus only belief:

Others say, “Jesus is also the Father and the Holy Spirit,” and the derivative belief that “Jesus is the
Father and the Holy Spirit is only a force of God,” and no distinction is made of the “voice” of the Lamb
from the “voice” of the Dragon (Rev. 13:11). ( Oneness or Jesus only doctrine )


by Jack Zavada
Updated April 10, 2017

Christadelphians hold several beliefs that differ from traditional Christian denominations.
They do not mingle with other Christians, maintaining that they possess the truth and have
no interest in ecumenism.

Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is only a force of God in Christadelphian beliefs because they deny the
Trinity doctrine. He is not a distinct Person.


Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Holy Spirit
CUF

Issue: What do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe about the Holy Spirit? How can one respond to their claims?

Response: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Holy Spirit is a force of God , not a Person. This belief
corresponds with their denial of God as a Trinity—three Persons, but one God. One can respond to their
claims by pointing to Scripture passages that suggest the Personhood of the Holy Spirit. One can also
look to the writings of early Church Fathers who refer to the Holy Spirit as a Person. After doing so,
three questions arise: Is one conclusion more reasonable than the other, or are they equally reasonable?
Is either conclusion necessary? Given the answers to those two questions, how do we know with certainty
which conclusion is correct?

Discussion: Because Jehovah’s Witnesses deny the Trinity, they also deny the Personhood of the Holy Spirit.
Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that the Scriptures characterize the Holy Spirit as an impersonal object: people
are filled by it, baptized with it, and anointed with it (see Lk. 1:41; Acts 2:4; Mt. 3:11; and Acts 10:38).
Any personal references to the Holy Spirit or His action—such as “helper,” “bear witness,” “speak,” and “hear”
(see Jn. 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:13)—are dismissed as personification (a literary device, e.g., “the sun
smiles from above”) (cf. Reasoning from the Scriptures, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, 1989).

 
    
Responses

  1.   Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
    1. Re: Christadelphians are not Oneness, Jesus Only Christians. - almario on Jun 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
      1. That is more correct, although Dynamic Monarchianism should not be confused with Arianism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 2017, 3:54 AM
     
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