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Re: The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts.

July 10 2017 at 8:11 PM
almario  (Login almario38)


Response to The issue for the verse I mentioned that KJV is mistranslating is not bad Greek texts.

 
Tomas blatantly exposed such a haughty soul within him by such an exposition of his level
of Greek translation by falsifying the KJV translators. He even impulsively concluded that the
translators did not even believe in soul salvation .

Being indoctrinated awhile by inc evidently bungled up your mind's on discerning GOD's written
infallible Words with their strategy of cherry picking of verses from different translations just to
conform upon their FMY's formulated doctrines.


Requisite for a Covenant or Testament

It is fundamental to a testament that, for its fulfillment, it requires the death of the testator or the maker thereof.

This is revealed to Apostle Paul in :

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Who can refute and repudiate that the God of Abraham is the maker of the testament of salvation. The declaration
was “heard from His mouth” in Genesis 17:7. This therefore required God’s manifestation in the flesh. Let us now
compare the different translations of the Holy Bible for God to fulfill His promise for salvation:

KJV or Authorized Version of 1611 < > Bishops ’s Bible of 1568

1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

1 Joh 3:6 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our
lives for the brethren.


Below is exposing biased bible translations authored by their translators which are highly deceiving to differentiate
the One and Only GOD Saviour that manifested in the flesh.

Modern versions of the Holy Bible vaguely render this promise :

NIV (New International Version)

1 Tim 3:16 Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.

1 Joh 3:16 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for
our brothers.

The American Standard Version

1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh, Justified
in the spirit, Seen of angels, Preached among the nations, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

1 Joh 3:16 Hereby know we love, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.


Good News Translation - Second Edition

1 Tim 3:16 No one can deny how great is the secret of our religion: He appeared in human form, was shown to be right by the
Spirit, and was seen by angels. He was preached among the nations, was believed in throughout the world, and was taken up
to heaven.

1 Joh 3:16 This is how we know what love is: Christ gave his life for us. We too, then, ought to give our lives for others!


Contemporary English Version

1 Tim 3:16 Here is the great mystery of our religion: Christ came as a human. The Spirit proved that he pleased God, and he
was seen by angels. Christ was preached to the nations. People in this world put their faith in him, and he was taken up to glory.


1 Joh 3:16 We know what love is because Jesus gave his life for us. That's why we must give our lives for each other.

Christian Standard Bible

1 Tim 3:16 And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit,
seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

1 Joh 3:16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for
our brothers.

The Douay-Rheims Bible

1 Tim 3:16 And evidently great is the mystery of godliness, which was manifested in the flesh, was justified in the spirit,
appeared unto angels, hath been preached unto the Gentiles, is believed in the world, is taken up in glory.

1 Joh 3:16 In this we have known the charity of God, because he hath laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our
lives for the brethren.

The Amplified Bible

1 Tim 3:16 And great and important and weighty, we confess, is the hidden truth (the mystic secret) of godliness. He [ R2 God]
was made visible in human flesh, justified and vindicated in the [Holy] Spirit, was seen by angels, preached among the nations,
believed on in the world, [and] taken up in glory.

1 Joh 3:16 By this we come to know (progressively to recognize, to perceive, to understand) the [essential] love: that He
laid down His [own] life for us; and we ought to lay [our] lives down for [those who are our] brothers [ R12 in Him].

Holy Bible, The New Living Translation

1 Tim 3:16 Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ appeared in the flesh and was shown to be righteous by
the Spirit. F9 He was seen by angels and was announced to the nations. He was believed on in the world and was taken up into
heaven.

1 Joh 3:16 We know what real love is because Christ gave up his life for us. And so we also ought to give up our lives for our
Christian brothers and sisters.

Physical death

It appears that the modern versions avoided citing the word “GOD” in 1Timothy 3:16 and, instead, substituted “He” or
“Christ.” In The Douay-Rheims Bible nothing is mentioned at all regarding this matter. And in 1 Joh 3:16, to further
emphasize that God fulfilled His testament with His death. Only the KJV or Authorized Version of 1611 and the
Bishops Bible properly renders as :

1 Joh 3:6 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for
the brethren.

Many people cannot comprehend how the Spirit and invisible God could possibly die, and further asking, “Where was God
if Jesus was the Father before His resurrection?”

Many people forget that only the BODY dies at physical death. The Spirit of God (Eccl 12:7) and the soul remain alive.
This was demonstrated when Lazarus the beggar and the Rich Man died as it is written in Luke 16:22-24.

 
    
Responses

  1.   I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 6:05 PM
    1. Re: I know the KJV translators believed in soul salvation, but the problem is they did not - almario on Jul 12, 2017, 8:36 PM
      1. The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 10:34 PM
        1. Re: The KJV translators were all members of the Church of England, so no wonder - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:10 AM
          1. I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - Tomas on Jul 13, 2017, 3:58 AM
            1. Re: I don't deny they knew ancient Greek well, but still they were all members - almario on Jul 13, 2017, 12:45 PM
              1. We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - Tomas on Jul 14, 2017, 5:20 AM
                1. Re: We should all do our best to follow God's doctrines, as I do. - almario on Jul 14, 2017, 9:43 PM
                  1. I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - Tomas on Jul 15, 2017, 3:09 PM
                    1. Re: I know God from everything the Bible says about him. But the Bible does not say - almario on Jul 16, 2017, 4:48 PM
                      1. Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - Tomas on Jul 17, 2017, 3:51 AM
                        1. Re: Of course God's doctrine is pure, but we know only as much of his doctrine as - almario on Jul 17, 2017, 10:11 PM
                          1. It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - Tomas on Jul 19, 2017, 7:56 PM
                            1. Re: It will be a glorious appearing of both of them, of the great God, and of our Savior - almario on Jul 19, 2017, 11:47 PM
                              1. So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - Tomas on Jul 20, 2017, 5:51 AM
                                1. Re: So without a comma it is still the same meaning, the comma is optional. - almario on Jul 20, 2017, 3:27 PM
                                2. Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - Tomas on Jul 21, 2017, 4:49 AM
                                3. Re: Of course now visually we can't see either God or his Son. But when they come - almario on Jul 21, 2017, 2:09 PM
                                4. Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - Tomas on Jul 22, 2017, 2:00 PM
                                5. Re: Yes, they will appear. So yes, visually. Appearing means visual. We will be - almario on Jul 22, 2017, 4:10 PM
                                6. You misunderstand that verse, Eccl. 12:7. - Tomas on Jul 24, 2017, 3:57 AM
     
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